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“That disgusts me. What will she gain by it? This is coming from anger and it’s not going to make her feel good. Wives and children will be hurt. Men could lose their jobs.”
But Davis lost her job. Where’s our concern for a woman who paid the price for everybody else’s illicit activity? Her clients—who, she says, used corporate accounts and credit cards to book dates with escorts—haven’t been punished the way she has, even though they left paper trails for the authorities to follow.
Janice is more concerned about the wider impact. "If you're unfortunate enough to get caught, ruining other people's lives isn't going to help,” she says. “If the police start arresting clients, we don’t have customers anymore! They will be so afraid, they’ll stop. I want them to believe that they’ll be left alone so they’ll continue spending money.”
Legally speaking, madams, agency owners, and telephone bookers take on a more-serious risk than do most escorts. The smart escort realizes, though, that working with agencies means taking on this risk by proxy. Even if you aren't the main target of an investigation, your life will be turned upside down if the agency gets busted.
Benjamin Nicholas, an Internet escort in his late twenties, says this is "a major reason" he prefers working independently. He doesn't want to worry about "who's keeping records and how quickly they might sell out that information.”
However, independent escorts could also be tempted to sell out for a book deal or talk-show interview, especially when their clients are closeted gay men. In 2006, Benjamin lambasted Mike Jones in print for outing televangelist Ted Haggard: “Your leap from paid crotch monkey to gay-rights crusader certainly doesn't impress your fellow sex workers,” he wrote. Benjamin feels the same way today, perhaps even more so, “after some of the 'scandals' to come down the pike,” and that includes Spitzer. “There's self-pride in knowing that no matter how good the offer, you're not going to give up information on who you've seen. It's part of the package deal: With the service I provide comes the peace-of-mind knowing that I won't wilt when Katie Couric comes knocking for an exclusive interview.”
Lisa, who advertises on the adult website Eros Guide as an independent escort, isn’t as dogmatic. “I can understand how Kristin may feel with the government on her case, and I think she should weigh the pros and cons.” But she echoes Benjamin’s concerns when she says, more than once, that just hearing about Davis’ pull-down menu “makes me feel more confident about going independent. When I hear about agency owners having these problems, I know I chose the right path.”
“I saw her on TV,” says Nadia, a thirtysomething call girl, discussing Kristin. “She’s pissed and I don’t blame her.” Nadia has her own private customer base and has never advertised online, so I don’t expect her to identify with Davis. Yet she’s adamant about the ex-madam’s right to dangle her clients’ names in the media. “She gave up a ton of money and went to jail. You don’t want to piss someone like that off.” Nadia says, “Look, it doesn’t matter what kind of work you do. She worked hard for that money, and it pisses me off that they took it.”
Nadia is surprised to learn that others in the industry disapprove of Kristin’s plan. “Her name was revealed, and other girls’ names were revealed. If I, physically and emotionally, were in her shoes, which I am not, I would probably do what she’s doing.”
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Can it be that someone in sex work does not indiscriminately say who their john was, because that meant they would then be exposed and they would then go to jail? But if they are already in jail, they have nothing to lose?
Same people who want truth and honesty from their government want their private life being kept secret? Their is a double standard here.
More glorification of professional sex--prostitution. The victims of the Spitzer's fall are prostitutes? Read no further! How did this person get access to this corner of the public marketplace of ideas? Who assigned her the the human interest whore beat?
There is something sick going on here. This is like the mass media representing casual drug use as harmless and acceptable socialization indulged in without consequences by likable characters. The drug and the prostitution industries can't buy better advertising.
The frequent cycling of such feature pieces about prostitution on these web pages can be seen as nothing less than condoning and promoting prostitution. Who do you think your readers are: Bill Clinton wannabes?
Give this talented writer some other beat with possible constructive benefits to society: Why not have her spend a week in the the New York City Library to write a piece on how Gottfried Leibniz's view of time as perceptual differed from Isaac Newton's materialistic view of time and how that might affect the current 30 plus year lack of progress in fundamental physics?
That might be boring--depending on how good a writer she is, but at least she won't be encouraging young women to think there is anything attractive about being a prostitute.
Civic virtue: it is a thing to strive for.
The only time I could see outing clients is if they actively worked to make prostitution illegal or pursued something else that was innately hypocritical. Someone like Spitzer who make life rougher for both escorts and their clients should be out'ed. Someone like Vitter who has been a strong advocate of "family values" (meaning not seeing prostitutes) deserve to be outed because of the total hypocrisy involved.
However, exposing other clients, including other public officials, is just something I couldn't do and live with myself.
Hey, Issywise ( the answer is NO, you're not).....
sex work is not drug addiction. If you want a diatribe on theoretical physics or math, go see Stephen Hawking.
He isn't as good looking as Tracy Quan, but if you are
into guys in wheelchairs..... and he has been married
more times than either Tracy, imho, or me.
Clients using "corporate accounts and corporate credit cards", that's another reason to name names, to expose such illegal and irresponsible use of corporate funds.
She should try to sell it in a book deal. The scumbags that she serviced were mis-using coporate funds. If no one cares to buy it, then put it on the internet for free. Lets face it this kind of work should be legalized anyway. I don't care who engages in these transactions, but I do care when they use funds that are not their own. That's criminal.
Issywise, why don't you just STOP READING HER BLOG, and you will be a happier person...this is The Daily Beast. Deal with it.
...and you may wanna read her bio for some background on why she writes about these matters.
Until the law treats the clients in the same way as the worker, I think its just fine for these women to let the beans out the bag.
If the workers livelihood is to be taken away, then the reputation of the client can go as well, thus their livelihood... especially when these guys are using corporate funds (in many cases) to pay.
to the Questions: "Am I willing to go to jail for 10 years to keep my client list in secrecy?". There has yet to be any evidence that exposing clients has stopped a criminal action against a worker or agency.
We don't go to jail because we refuse to expose our clients. We go to jail because our right to negotiate for our labor and work conditions are criminalize.
New York prostitutes would do well to use the spitzer case as the means to sue the state of NY for un equal enforcement/protection like they did in Rhode Island did back in the 1970's and won decriminalized indoor prostitution.
We obviously need a law for hookers providing and requiring what lawyers and doctors practice: hooker-client privilege.
Hey wake up everyone, why do you think guys go to hookers?
Call girls are in the business to make money. While confidentiality is a valuable commodity, so is gossip. You want confidentiality, pay for it. And pay more than the gossip mongers. Or face the consequences. Might be useful for a number of movers-and-shakers-types to keep their pants zipped and their privacy protected.
Just a thought....
ISSYWISE: There you go again with your constipated view of sexuality. Maybe other people aren't as repressed as you. Maybe they don't have sick perversions secretly hidden in the recesses of their minds that make them so guilty as to feel it necessary to admonish everyone who is at all interested in sex. And, some of us have quite a good time with casual drug use. Some of us see an 8ball shared with two or three of their favorite strippers as a great way to spend a saturday evening. Maybe you have the problem.
That being said. Why do we have to get the hooker chronicles every other week? This chick is a one show pony.
Kiss and tell? Only to make themselves famous? Hell no! I think Ms. Dupre has over stayed her time in the limelight. What is she famous for giving BJs? C'mon folks. Next she will be an expert commentator on sex and appearing on TV news shows. OMG!
PS This lady chose to be a pimp now she is pissed that all the Johns didn't get busted as well. It is like a drug bust; you don't bust the users, you bust the dealers. And anyone who would rat out her clientele because she is just pissed is scum. What is the saying? Snitches get Stiches?
I have a problem with people like this getting rich from being the low-life scumbags of society! And your "anniversary" only helps her put her back in the spotlight to cash in. So, STFU and let her 15 minutes of fame go away unrewarded!!!
The ethics of the profession seem to require confidentiality. But is this absolute, true in every situation? I'm not sure. Tracy Quan has done a masterful job in exploring the intricacies of "the business." Much more interesting than an article on Leibniz.
I don't know what I find harder to believe, this story or that a real little black book exists in the 21st century.
A person who still uses a paper book, regardless if it is black, pink or pokka dotted, or claims too, should be suspect and avoided like the plague.
Though it beggars belief, that anyone who wasn't using a device with password protection, really had an intent to protect privacy at all, it beggars belief even more. than Ms. Quan is writing an article about anything to do with discretion.
No wonder the absurdity of a little black book was not at issue at all, in this article.
To understand the meaning of propriety and discretion, one would need some common sense.
Of course, if a person was really being discreet, they would have no evidence, no case, no book, no list.
As far as I can see, these people collect info, so one day they can write a book, or sell the book, or sell the info, or get caught, with the info, to become an issue for a book or what have you based on the info.
I wouldn't blame them at all. But I do blame them for lying about it, and pretending that there was a serious attempt being made to successfully maintain discretion and decorum, when there couldn't have been.
Why have a list, if it wasn't to sell the fact you had a list long enough to make a book interesting.
Ask Ms. Quan what her claim to fame would be, she might say, being symmetrical and her books coming a close second.
I always hate when one of my teams goons gets involved in a scandal. that's why stupid politicians should stick to real issues. We have seen this pattern far too often:
Against Prostitution? You will be caught nailing a hooker.
Against gay marriage? You will be found waste deep in boys.
Against drugs? Turns out you're doing tons of coke.
Pro Life? Somehow, you'll be caught mid-abortion.
Let's stick to wars and the economy losers. Blago and Spitzer are definite dents in the Democratic name. Luckily the Republicans are always nine scandals ahead.
That is the hypocrisy, they go on and say this a victimless crime, in one breath, and in the other breath they drop names, lists, books, while flaunting their symmetrical features which I guess is the bait for the hook and the book.
Honestly, I can't believe the things we choose to make illegal in the first place. Then it's hard to square who pays for the crime & who doesn't. Personally, my biggest concern is after it is all said & done can we then leave people be. Case in point, Mr Spitzer authored a very interesting article on Slate but I heard no mention from anyone on Sunday Talk or anywhere else. This is the stuff we should be studying, debating, and enacting-NO More Pointless Arguments!http://www.slate.com/?id=2212534
I personally don't care if prostitutes keep lists or release names. Either one is fine with me.
What I am wondering about and waiting for is the spotlight to come off Spitzer and the girls and move onto the machinations and extraordinary lengths and rule stretching that the Republicans went to in order to SPY on Eliot Spitzer. When are we going to have that conversation, I wonder.
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