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When David Plotz set out to read every word of the Old Testament, he discovered gruesome smitings, rampant misogyny, and a God who’s a lot like Donald Trump. The author of Good Book talks to The Daily Beast about what his Biblical journey begat.
When David Plotz, the editor of Slate, opened to Page 1 of the Old Testament, he had no idea what he was getting himself into. Plotz was, by his own estimation, an inattentive Jew, a biblical ignoramus. But Eden can be bliss, and Plotz’s determined innocence informs Good Book: The Bizarre, Hilarious, Disturbing, Marvelous, and Inspiring Things I Learned When I Read Every Single Word of the Bible.
Good Book is a mercilessly funny one; imagine Sunday school taught by Jackie Mason. Isaac is the “Harpo Marx of Genesis”; Joseph, son of Jacob, is a “nasty little tattletale”; and “Onan’s sin, ‘onanism,’ is not masturbation, it’s birth control.” But Plotz is out for more than wisecracks. He tries to make sense of the God of the Hebrew Bible, sweating out the smitings and plagues and trying wrap his head around his own faith. He talked to The Daily Beast about his journey from Genesis to Malachi and whether he came out a better person.
“Here you have tricking people into circumcision; you have the slaughtering of animals. If that’s there, what else did I miss?”
Before you started this project, on a scale from 1 to 10—10 being a rabbi and 1 being someone who is vaguely aware he is Jewish—where did you fall?
Well, I was circumcised, I was bar mitzvahed, and I had married an Israeli woman, so I definitely knew that I was Jewish. I would probably be a four. I was raised in Reform Judaism—I was in tune to it.
Good Book: The Bizarre, Hilarious, Disturbing, Marvelous, and Inspiring Things I Learned When I Read Every Single Word of the Bible. By David Plotz. 336 pages. Harper. $26.99.
And your interest in the Hebrew Bible was piqued when you read about Dinah being raped?
I was at my cousin’s incredibly boring bat mitzvah, and I opened [the Bible] at random to the story of Dinah and read the story about how she’s raped and the rapist wants to marry her. Her brothers, who are Jacob’s sons, say, “Yeah, you can marry her, but you and all the men of your town have to get circumcised.” So the rapist says, “That’s great,” and the men come back and get circumcised. While they’re recovering from the surgery, in pain and incapacitated, Jacob’s sons show up and slaughter them. They take the women and children as slaves and sack the town. When Jacob complains about this, they say, “What, you want our sister to be treated like a whore?”
I read that story and thought, 'Goodness gracious, this is not anything I ever learned.' Here you have tricking people into circumcision; you have the slaughtering of animals—it’s appalling. If that’s there, what else have they never bothered to teach me? What else did I miss?
How good a beach read is the Bible?
I liken it to The Odyssey or Dostoyevsky. When you start it, it’s very forbidding because the language is so different, the rhythms are different, the stories don’t follow progressions—things double back on each other in ways that don’t make sense. But once you get in the mind-set, it becomes quite easy and delightful to read. So my view is that if you can get through five or ten chapters of Genesis, then you can get through the whole book.
You encountered all these mistakes in the Bible, like the fact that God creates insects twice.
God creates the universe twice. Genesis, Chapter 1 has this famous beginning: God created the earth. And then, in Chapter 2, he creates it all again, and he creates man again, and he does it in a completely different way. If I were a biblical literalist—and thank God I’m not—I would have no idea how I would make sense of this because there are two creations. No one who ever read this book with any degree of intellectual honesty could think that this is a single story and it all coheres. It doesn’t.
You write that God is not a particularly likable character. His attitude toward women is like “Norman Mailer on a bad day.”
He doesn’t like women very much, particularly early on. With the exception of maybe a half-dozen women, every woman is described as a whore or a prostitute and she’s turning tricks in one way or another. That’s very weird. The women are very manipulative and vicious and the treatment of them is incredibly derogatory.
Another surprise: The early chapters turn out to be largely about real-estate deals.
God has this Trump-like quality where he will make a promise—he’ll promise Abraham one particular area of land for the promised land; and a chapter later he’ll promise the land again but the boundaries will be different; and then the chapter after that he’ll make another deal and promise even more; and then later it’s an entirely different set of borders. You wouldn’t trust any covenant with him because he’s constantly going to be shifting the borders around. Real-estate negotiation, in Genesis in particular, takes up a third of the book: Who owns it, who should have it, where is it? There’s a whole Florida real-estate angle to it.
Did you consult study any guides as you were mucking your way through?
My view is that I was an average Job. This is an encounter between a man and his book, and that I was just gonna read it, like I read anything else. I’m sure I made incredible theological errors and took things out of context and misunderstood things all the time, but so what? It’s the joy of reading something for yourself without it being mediated through somebody else.
There’s a revelatory moment when you realize exactly who it is you’ve named your son after.
At the time I started the book, I had one son, Jacob. Jacob is a family name in [my wife] Hanna’s family. But I always thought, Here’s Jacob, he’s the great patriarch, he’s the great father of Israel, beloved of God. And then I actually read the story, and he’s such a slippery character, out of Glengarry Glen Ross or something. He’s a con artist; he’s a total trickster. He has this wonderful brother Esau, who goes down in history as a villain. But Esau is sweet and forgiving and good to his brother and wants nothing but the best, and yet Jacob is the one who gets to be the hero and gets all of God’s love and gets the land and gets to be the father of God’s chosen people.
So after making it all the way through Malachi, are you a better person?
I'm definitely not a better person by the standards of any rabbi. I never went to synagogue much but I certainly haven't increased my attendance. But I think I'm a better Jew in one sense. I realized that the God of the Hebrew Bible is a very difficult character. He's erratic, he's vindictive, he's not merciful…. He promotes genocide. He smites often just for the joy of smiting. As a reader and as a Jew it was disturbing to find that this God was not a God of love and mercy and justice.
If that is what God is, then why would you want to have a God like that? If you're Christian, the New Testament resolves that; God is much more merciful and good and just. But if you're a Jew, you don't have that. The tradition in Judaism, and I think Good Book is distinctly part of this, because everything is so difficult and morally confusing, we just spend a lot of time arguing about it. The great tradition in Judaism is all this Torah commentary, the Talmud and stories from the Torah. … That's why Jews predominate in the argumentative professions. Because we're given this book which is not obviously a guide to morality and the guide to a loving God.
So in that sense I do think I'm a better Jew. In the sense that I am now on high alert and in a fight with the Bible and in a fight with God and struggling with questions that it raises. Basic fundamental moral questions about what God should do and what's just, our moral responsibility.
Imagine a busy person who has the list of great books (Ulysses, War and Peace) they want to read someday. Where does the Bible go on the list?
I think it has to top the list if you're living the United Sates or the West. Because nothing, absolutely nothing in the culture compares in terms of its influence. Its influence on our language, on our ideas of what stories are. Its influence on our law, on our legal system. Its influence on direct political action at the moment, in the sense that there are so many people who are guided by this book that if you don't understand what's motivating them then you can't possibly engage with them as fellow citizens.
But if you don't have time to read the Bible, then you can just read Good Book because it will give you all the good stuff of the Bible but it's much shorter. And also you can keep my book in the bathroom, which you can't with the Bible.









I can't wait until he reads the Koran and is arrested for hate speech. Its amazing how it is okay to ridicule the Judeo-Christian relations, but not anything else. This guy obviously didn't get the part about God running the Karma department.
religions, not relations (although it is okay to ridicule that, too).
I can't wait to read the comments on this one...
the new testament hardly "resolves" some of these issues -- especially the misogyny which is rampant throughout the bible and most religions in general.
"how good a beach read is the bible?" = lol. at least these guys have a sense of humor about it.
well here's a comment: PERFECT! I am going to buy this book!
There is a name for a Blogger who post to titillate the most sensational for what page hits? Rhymes with Bhore.
This author's supposedly original "observations" are nothing more than Gnosticism which has been around for over two thousand years. Hate to break it to you, but this argument has been made many times already and far less flippantly.
Plotz repeats the conventional wisdom that the New Testament God is merciful but the God of the Hebrew scriptures is not. This has been the view of Christian propagandists since the beginning of the religion. Yet, as Christopher Hitchens points out, it is only the New Testament God who condemns non-believers to hell fire. There is no hell in the Hebrew scriptures.
The Hebrew scriptures are not a collection of hagiographies, but rather they present human beings as deeply flawed, even patriarchs such as Jacob.
In a universe in which good people die unjustly, it is not immediately obvious that God is an advocate of justice and mercy. The Hebrew scriptures are a collection of writings by different authors from different centuries struggling with this basic problem of human existence.
It's easy to mock the many primitive portions of the Hebrew scriptures-- and they should be exposed-- but it does the tradition a great disservice not to place it all in historical perspective, as part of the process which gave rise to more refined views of justice and mercy.
Did anyone actually read this interview? The book sounds like one person's humorous take on the Old Testament. Which is not maligning any religion, and is not trying to make original observations -- it is just what it says -- an average, untutored, Job's reaction to what is really in this very influential book.
So many people are defensive! Maybe the author's book will get more folks to read the Bible, to think about it, or to think about spirituality and what they need in their lives to be better people or to feel better.
I'm quite certain the Bible will survive this.
I'm sorry, it sounds to me like he's just made it through Genesis. If he's already complaining about a short attention span out the outset, what about the rest of the Pentateuch? Once you get past mid-Exodus, it's just laws, laws, laws for pages and pages. Really, it took you that long to get into Genesis? You mean Abraham pimping out Sarah in chapter 12 just didn't do it for you? Oh, and by the way, the whole double creation thing is really a folkloric glitch of two different stories that got pulled together but not quite covered up in the process of creating the written canon. But I digress. Please don't tell us you've read the whole Old Testament (or anything else from the Jewish canon) when all you've got to talk about is Genesis!
Pastor Fred Phelps is right!
um, he read the old testament ...and you say he read the Bible? Dudettes, the Bible is not the old testament. There is an entire section of the Bible, the most important by the way called the New Testament.
Is this a Jewish thing or what?
libree,
you're wrong about the OT's view of hell and wrong about the alleged dichotomy btwn OT and NT...its not the Christian propagandists who believe this. Christians have always believed the God of the OT is the God of the NT.
Your statements make me wonder if you've ever read it, and if you have whether or not you know how to read it. You must read a novel like you read the comics.
flyoverland
I can't wait until he reads the Koran and is arrested for hate speech. Its amazing how it is okay to ridicule the Judeo-Christian relations, but not anything else. This guy obviously didn't get the part about God running the Karma department.
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as a gay man, i know first hand the value of ridicule and hate to bible aplogists and those that claim to live it but don't.
When you look at the Old Testament, all those rules had a purpose. If you were God, dealing with unsophisticated, uneducated people, who didn't have Viking Ovens or meat thermometers, "don't eat pork" is probably pretty good advice. Same with the lack of antibiotics, "don't sleep around".
Its like the old joke. Moses comes down from the mountain with the tablets of commandments. Somebody asks, "how did it go?" Moses says, "good news and bad news, good news is I got him down to ten, but adultry is still one of them."
To julialauren: Plotz's book has no relationship to Gnosticism.
I've read most of it and have read a lot about Gnosticism - Pagels, et al.
This book is great fun and also offers some insights and fresh perspectives. I wasn't raised in a Jewish household, but I was raised in an evangelical household and a new way of seeing is often needed. To say that the Old Testament depicis slippery, ccrafty an cruel characters is not new or to see the OT God as vengeful. But Plotz has his own original way of describing thhese events and characters and it's fun!
Well, at least he Plotz his way through it. That's more than most could say. Please note the 'faith of a mustard seed' planted in so doing. He admits something learned or at least questioned; the epitome of what it is to become a critical thinker. Well now, there's a revelation!
Nice score on the masterbation/birth control observation. I'll ring the Pope and let him know that someone finally noticed.
libfree
I don't think he was mocking...and I believe he is Jewish
....maybe like most people who are Christian...only nominally...
so maybe this was truly an eye opening observation
It seems he was humerously pointing out
that taken literally...as some people do (at least some Christians do)...you have a lot to reconcile...
When I started reading the Old Testament (Christian version)
cover to cover I was personally stunned...
Even other parts...like the scriptures used (at least by Christians) to justify the persecution of gay people also list as "An abomination" wearing cotton and wool together (forgive me if memory isn't completely acurate but it was something wierd like that....I don't claim to be a biblical scholar)
Judaism has a tradition of discussion and examination
of Biblical texts
but most Christian sects Do Not... and cultural context
is often consider a non-issue...
this is the "Literal" Word of God
So it can sure be real confusing when some wierd things are happening or contradictory things are going on...
The New Testament is also full of wacky inconsistancies
and things that really Should be understood only within the context of the times and culture...
but lots of people insist it is Literally acurate...
maybe I'll write that book...
"pabarge wrote
um, he read the old testament ...and you say he read the Bible? Dudettes, the Bible is not the old testament."
In what Christian sect is this true....
The New Testament is clearly a sequel...
Read it for yourself...
PS sorry Creationists...there really are Two Conflicting Creation stories...just another perplexing issue if you must insist the Bible is Literally True...
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Sorry David Plotz, your book's concept is not original!
It is so very similar to two books by Meir Shalev, the Israeli author, the first "Bible Now" published 1985 and his latest book "Reshit" published in 2008.
Both books main theme are the characters, relationships and events of the Old Testament perceived and described from a secular, historic perspective and not a literal religious one.
Also a secular Jew, Meir Shalev unlike David Plotz, has a deep love and profound knowledge of the Old Testament texts and so has the wonderful ability to enlighten and surprise his readers with aspects of the Old Testament that are not familiar to most of us.
Ok, I take back my previous post -- it hasn't been interesting reading the comments...
I find it amazing that people read a couple page interview (assuming they even got that far) with only a few questions and seem to be reviewing his entire book on the basis of it. How can a poster comment about what's missing in the book based on this review? Common sense, people. And if anyone really thinks he was trying to make some serious treaty about the Hebrew bible versus the New Testament or any other religion they truly missed the point, and as someone else pointed out, are too sensitive. For those who bothered to read all three pages, let alone the 350 or so in the actual book, its not portending to be anything but an intentionally light and humor take on the Old Testament from the POV of someone who barely knew it before a fresh reading. That's all. No deep commentary or Earth-shattering conclusions, no great debate, no pretence of self-importance. PatriceFitz got it right...
hatuly, except for the itty, bitty difference that Plotz's book is a work of COMEDY not a scholarty treaty. Relax.
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As an atheist, I take the opinion that the Bible is simply the best-selling work of fiction ever written. I didn't find anything overtly interesting in the story, only because my point of view is that it's no different than a book written by Paris Hilton.
In some ways, I liken it to an ancient Wikipedia entry. Written by many people, all with their own agenda.
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