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Chris Matthews on the Buckley Mystique

Buckley Family The MSNBC host celebrates Christopher Buckley’s lively tribute to his parents—and says Losing Mum and Pup answers JFK’s key question about biography: What were they really like?

Jack Kennedy once said that the reason people read a biography is to answer one question: What was he like?

What was the late William F. Buckley Jr. really like? And what of his wife, Pat, that formidable New York socialite? What could a son make of her? And what were those two, Bill and Pat, like together? What on earth was it like growing up in the middle of all that?

Novelist Christopher Buckley spends every page of Losing Mum and Pup spelling out the lively answers. He told one reporter it’s the best thing he’s ever written. And if he left some things out as he takes us through his parents’ last months, it’s like one of those plays by Harold Pinter. What he doesn’t say says a lot.

Certainly, it’s the best material any author could want. “Is it name-dropping,” Buckley asks, “when they’re your own parents?”

Certainly, it’s the best material any author could want. “Is it name-dropping,” he asks, “when they’re your own parents?”

And what of the world these three shared? The Park Avenue social whirl, Christmas sailing in the Caribbean, then off to Gstaad and drinks with David Niven?

If Losing Mum and Pup reads as debonair as the settings, there’s toughness as well.

Here’s a Bill Buckley you never met on Firing Line.

“Why don’t we agree that the next call you get from me will be when she’s dead.” He’s telling Chris that he, a man as in love with his wife any man could be, simply cannot bring himself to see his dying, comatose wife one more time.

Or this snappy little note from the father on his son’s most recent novel, which had elsewhere been extremely well received. “This one didn’t work for me. Sorry.”

Pretty tough. Then again, if you know fathers of that generation, not at all surprising. The Greatest Generation was tight with its trophies.

And what a life the old man shared with his boy. “My father had always had the notion of sailing across the Atlantic, and this we did in 1975. We set off from Miami on June 1. A month and 4,400 miles later, we dropped anchor in the shadow of Gibraltar.”

Buckley writes about “Mum,” who died first and not by that many months before “Pup,” with more exuberance. She had come dashing into Bill Buckley’s heart as a Vassar roommate of his sister’s. Despite all the spats and all the years, she never left it.

What a glow she left in these pages. “I’ve got the best legs in the business.” What other son can claim to have heard his mother drop that baby?

Among those hundreds of photos, he writes, there wasn’t one bad one. “She made love to every camera that came her way.”

Now try putting all this together.

“I don’t think I once heard Mum utter a religious or spiritual sentiment.”

Yet here is the portrait he paints of the great American Catholic’s wife visiting the Vatican. “She wore more black lace than a Goya duchess; the effect is that of the Magdalene, as dressed by Bill Blass.”

“Generally, she was defiant—almost magnificently so—when her demons slipped their leash.”

And yet, what a sport she could be when she, Patricia Buckley, decided to be.

“My mother deserves a word of appreciation here. She was the dutiful yachtsman’s wife. Lord, how she worked at it. In earlier times, the term for this occupation was 'galley slave.' She had been raised as a debutante, a beautiful, delicate orchid from Vancouver, Canada. Now she found herself cooking for eight men and scrubbing the toilet aboard a small boat with no hot water. She would mutter darkly, ‘I was made for better things.’”

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May 3, 2009 | 7:04am
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Banjo1

One phony promoting another. This is how the establishment works, folks.

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8:19 am, May 3, 2009
Kirbonicus

What is a 'phony' and how does it apply to these people?

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9:59 am, May 3, 2009
Ritarita

Banjo-
Maybe if
You practice
Real hard
You can string
The words together
To make one
Positive
Statement.

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1:45 pm, May 3, 2009
TavernWench

So the Bush Party now purges the Buckleys. There's your sign!

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6:13 pm, May 3, 2009
drkaza12

banjo; there are definitely a couple of strings missing on the old banjo.

promptly, once again your spreading your unique trademark of vitriol; bless us this time it is contained in two sentences. The second would have been served best as a question though.

word to the wise, which is a daring assumption on my part; banjo me dear old mum used to say; "if you have nothing decent to say, say nothing at all". I add too this pearl; if you have nothing to add to any conversation except self evident vitriol, silence is your only redemption.

Banjo; why do you hate America?

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4:44 pm, May 4, 2009
princeminski

Jeez, having seen a few of your posts (and other people's responses) I figured you were a standard right wing knee-jerk naysayer. Apparently it's more pathological than that.

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8:52 am, Sep 14, 2009
connie47

This is a great review. It makes me want to know more.

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8:40 am, May 3, 2009
southernyankee

I find reading books by Chris Buckley is easier to read than his father's books.

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5:41 pm, May 3, 2009
Johnnorth

Obviously Chris Buckley can make death interesting. Must read it. Chris Matthews surprises with this well-written revew. Write more, Matthews, scowl less.

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8:54 am, May 3, 2009
drkaza12

I too was surprised and delighted

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5:43 pm, May 4, 2009
Johnnorth

Banjo1 must be one of a helluva of a bore with such a raging inferiority complex

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8:55 am, May 3, 2009
scough

What were they really like? Nasty drunks who chain-smoked? Gawd! Enough of the endless promotion of this book!

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9:41 am, May 3, 2009
GPatton

Hey B**J*1, shut your pie hole, numbscull. George Patton

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9:46 am, May 3, 2009
Banjo1

What do I mean by phony? Matthews was a Democratic functionary until he got a job in TV passing himself off as an objective talking head playing it down the middle. Then MSNBC went nuts and he was free to be himself. Buckley, a vivid demonstration of how blood thins between the generations, would have been nothing without the help of his distinguished father. If Dubya is a phony who rose to his level of incompetence because of Poppy, how is Buckley any different? Is nepotism a word still used? But keep dipping your snout in the swill, Johnnorth. Doesn't matter if it's true or false. Tastes the same to you.

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11:02 am, May 3, 2009
xbainx

I am glad to see you finally bash Bush. Let us go down the line:

Nixon gets us Watergate.

Reagan gets us Iran/Contra

Bush I gets us the rise and fall of Sadam.

Bush II gets us two wars and raises us a depression.

Republicans are treasonous dogs. But just because your party is terrible and you hate fags, doesn't mean the rest of us are without hope.

We liberal scum, we're running the show now. And you won't ever thank us Banjo, but that's not important. What is important is never letting another Republican rule. You're right to dislike Buckley. His father used to write articles praising fascists and segregation. So let's hope that blood is really watered down.

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11:38 am, May 3, 2009
genoftheheart

But don't you wish you could write as well as Christopher Buckley? I do. The insight into the importance of his family is just the medicine this country needs right now. Americans have wasted too much energy chasing upward mobility instead of family stability. Buckley has suggested that I quote less, but I can't resist this one from John Gatto, author of Dumbing Us Down. "Family is the engine of education." The values that are instilled in us from childhood determine our identity, our motivation and inspiration. So really Banjo1, what were your parents like?

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11:39 am, May 3, 2009
jackbutler5555

Are you really asking what's the difference between George W. Bush and Christopher Buckley? Matthews never passed himself off as objective. He has always been opinionated as they come. Have you ever watched Hardball? You ever hear him take off on the Clintons? I think you're attacking Matthews because you disagree with him. That's fine. However, you might want to do some homework first.

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12:01 pm, May 3, 2009
connie47

The flaw in your argument is that if the younger Mr. Buckley does not come up with the goods, no one will read him and he'll be out of business.

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11:29 am, May 4, 2009
tomforcomm

Nicely written review, I'll be sure to read this book, not just because of this review but because Chris Buckley can actually write.

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12:00 pm, May 3, 2009
TK798999

Chrissy, does Buckley give you a tingle up your leg?

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1:00 pm, May 3, 2009
Banjo1

You must be light-headed from whatever goes on in the bath house, xbainx. (No, we don't want to know). Republicans are "treasonous dogs," eh? The foaming-at-the-mouth left keeps expanding the category. Pretty soon only West Hollywood, the Castro and the parts of Palm Beach with antique stores will be considered non-treasonous. You've got scales covering your eyes, xbainx, and I don't want to think about what else you've picked up. But if you want to call yourself liberal scum, be my guest. I prefer "deluded." It's more polite.

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1:16 pm, May 3, 2009
Ritarita

There's
That bath house
Reference
Again.
I'm getting the
Creeps.

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1:50 pm, May 3, 2009
TavernWench

Me
Too.

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6:14 pm, May 3, 2009
xbainx

What I meant was I am going to rape you. But in a heterosexual way. Seriously though dude, I don't even get the gay jokes. What if every post I made somehow referenced fat girls?

I think you would begin to assume I secretly had a passion for fat girls. And I do.

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12:24 am, May 4, 2009
purpleme

It helps me make some sense of my" being "when someone else can articulate these "things" most of us stuff down. I look forward to the human insight.

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1:33 pm, May 3, 2009
nabeltdb

Why all the nasty comments? One man wrote a book about his parents, and another man wrote a favorable review about that book. It's not about politics.

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2:43 pm, May 3, 2009
marymargaretstp

Truly, why all the nastiness? Must a warm review about a writer (C. Buckley) that can eloquently turn a phrase about his fascinating (and perhaps controversial) family, descend into disagreeable diatribe?!??! Lighten up Francis...um, Banjo.

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10:28 pm, May 8, 2009
camper

Mathews is a pundit if ther ever there was one but this was a well written review. I will read this book. I hope it reads like real life salinger.

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3:11 pm, May 3, 2009
princeminski

Pierre?

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8:54 am, Sep 14, 2009
PietrH

"Laborare est orare" not "laborare est orarare!"

Come on Chris, what happened to your Jesuit Latin? I think Bill B., Sr. would smile wryly at such an error.


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3:37 pm, May 3, 2009
perkins

Just

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4:11 pm, May 3, 2009
perkins

Just what we all need.

Chris Matthews -- everybody's creepy uncle, who happily announced to the world during the invasion of Iraq, "We're all neo-cons today" -- shilling like crazy (and I mean "crazy") for Chris Buckley, an imitation of a man who fathered a child out of wedlock and abandoned him as quickly as one could say "Roman Catholocism."

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4:22 pm, May 3, 2009
perkins

Yes, I realize it's spelled "Catholicism."

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4:37 pm, May 3, 2009
HughMunn

It's a bastard of a review, Mr. Matthews.

Whoopsie! Did I say "bastard"?

What I meant to say is that it is legitimately good reading.

So good, in fact, that I passed it along to my law professor, R.N. Wedlock.

He gets a tingle down his leg whenever he sees you drooling on camera.

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4:43 pm, May 3, 2009
Persefunny

The ONLY thing I want to know about the offspring of this power couple is has their son, Christopher Buckey, the celebrated author, paid child support to his abandoned girlfriend, and has he reconciled with his child. Will he receive the education and publishing connections necessary to write his own best-selling book about daddy and the grandparents. I have no respect for any of them except for liking their nice clothes.

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7:35 pm, May 3, 2009
cbeenthere

That apparently has happened. And we will never know as it has died down. It has been reported that the grandfather wrote the child off as "dead to him". Nice clothes? Oh, well.

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8:34 pm, May 3, 2009
cbeenthere

Man, there are some odd clashes going on among the comments here. Thought Buckley did a fine job of self promotion on this recent book. Maybe a RCC thing. Go figure.

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8:18 pm, May 3, 2009
williamboot

Matthews doesn't know a thing about Evelyn Waugh.

It's what you do with what you've got that counts: a pack of cigarettes and a bottle of booze equals slow suicide. They succeeded brilliantly. As Lawrence O'Donnell said, this is a Mommie Dearest book. CB didn't have the nerve to write it when Mum and Pup (please!) were still around to throw a vase at him (dearest Mum) or write a snarky letter (darling Pup). Chris had the last -- gasp -- laugh.

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9:46 pm, May 3, 2009
KarenF444

There was a long excerpt in the NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/magazine/26buckley-t.html?pagewanted=a ll

It does seem like a "Mommie Dearest" book. Pat Buckley wasn't just an alcoholic; she was a cruel woman who told nasty lies to hurt others. Imagine dealing with such a person as your mother. William F. Buckley was emotionally absent for Christopher when he wasn't physically absent. Seems to have been very narcissistic, too; the world revolved around himself. Maybe the rest of the book is different but in that excerpt, Christopher had more distaste than love for his parents.

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11:01 pm, May 3, 2009
Persefunny

All the more reason for him to be a good father to his abandoned child and to acknowledge his parents' depraved indifference for their *bio*-grandchild. That is the measure of his stature, inheritance preservation and production aside. He still thinks he's better than most others and those at that social level are there to reinforce this idea.

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11:41 pm, May 3, 2009
xbainx

I've been reading "The Republican Noise Machine" and I really want to hate for Matthews being one of those fair-weather Democrats.

But seeing him trash Michelle Malkin and Michelle Bachmann just sort of warms my heart. I think deep down he's just an opportunist. I don't think he can help himself. First he loves Bush, then Obama gives him an erection...whichever way the polls are blowing he'll be there.

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12:29 am, May 4, 2009
redmanlaw

"They sound like stone fucking abusive alcoholics. Back to you, Chris."

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12:43 am, May 4, 2009
scough

Too funny! Yeah, but because they were rich everyone is supposed to forget about all the boozing, etc..

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3:47 pm, May 4, 2009
Osterley

I think you're rather missing the point if you interpret the excerpt as a hit piece on his parents. It seems to be an honest account of tricky relationships, designed to illuminate, not denigrate. In regards to his mother, for instance, I see as much admiration for her self-possessed chutzpah as disapproval of her truth-defying liberties. They sound to me like a normal family, if perhaps a bit larger than life.

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1:23 am, May 4, 2009
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