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The Court's Other Diversity Problem

BS Top - Campos Supreme Court Newscom photo illustration More rare than a lesbian or Latino on the bench: a justice who didn’t go to Harvard or Yale. While others speculate on the race and gender of Justice Souter’s replacement, Paul Campos explains that the Supreme Court’s real diversity problem is career path and class. It wasn’t always this way.

Anyone who looks at a 50-year-old photograph of the Supreme Court will probably be struck first by the uniform race and gender of the nine older white men. Given that the court today includes only one woman justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and that she was recently diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, there’s nothing wrong with limiting the search for David Souter’s replacement to women. Whatever one’s views on the value of gender and ethnic diversity, it’s probable that not too many people today remain comfortable with the notion of an all-male Supreme Court.

Supreme Court nominations have become repositories of the sort of superficial status markers that have come to obsess the American upper class.

Still, other forms of diversity shouldn’t be ignored—and in a crucial sense the Supreme Court today is a far less diverse institution than it was a half-century ago.

Consider the makeup of the court at the time Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. Chief Justice Earl Warren had been a three-term governor of California. Hugo Black and Sherman Minton had served in the Senate. Harold Burton was a former mayor of Cleveland. Stanley Reed had been in the Kentucky legislature, and was appointed by FDR to run the Reconstruction Finance Corporation at the height of the Great Depression. William Douglas was chairman of the Securities & Exchange Commission. Tom Clark had been a Texas district attorney.

Even the most academic member of the court, former Harvard Law professor Felix Frankfurter, had been deeply involved in nuts-and-bolts Progressive era and New Deal politics for decades.

The educational backgrounds of the justices were as varied as their careers. They graduated from state law schools all across the country, including Indiana, Alabama, Texas, and California. (Reed never even received a law degree.) Most of them served in the military, and three saw combat during World War I.

Now consider the backgrounds of the current justices. Every single one of them was a federal appellate court judge at the time he or she was nominated to join the court. None has held elective office. Only the retiring Souter has presided over a trial, and only the 89-year-old John Paul Stevens has served in the military.

Their education is even more uniform than their careers. Six attended Harvard Law School, while two others graduated from Yale.

Indeed, even as the institution has slowly begun to open itself to gender and racial diversity, Supreme Court nominations have become repositories of the sort of superficial status markers that have come to obsess the American upper class.

The career path to get on the court has become astonishingly narrow. Go to Harvard or Yale Law School, clerk for a Supreme Court justice, work for one of a handful of elite law firms, become a law professor at a top school or rotate into a fancy government position, then get appointed to a federal appellate court and wait for your name to be called.

Something like the reductio ad absurdum of this process is reflected in the fact that two of the most commonly mentioned potential successors to Souter are Elena Kagan and Harold Koh, until recently deans of the Harvard and Yale Law Schools, respectively. (Kagan was just appointed solicitor general but may end up joining the Supreme Court before she argues before it in that role.)

To be sure, there’s nothing inherently wrong with appointing the deans of the Harvard and Yale Law Schools to the Supreme Court. I suspect Kagan and Koh would make fine justices in their own fashion.

I’ve spent most of the last 20 years on the edges of the little world that cranks out elite law school graduates. For all its charms, it’s a very insular place.

But I’ve spent most of the last 20 years on the edges of the little world that cranks out elite law school graduates, who go on to become Supreme Court clerks, and associates at fancy law firms, and law school professors, and deputy attorneys general, and federal appellate judges. For all its charms, it’s a very insular place.

Limiting Supreme Court nominees to those who inhabit it largely limits the field to members of a social and intellectual elite who generally lack much in the way of either practical political experience, or contact with people outside their rarified socio-economic status. The court is ultimately a deeply political institution, and, as the history of the Warren court illustrates, being immersed in politics for much of their lives may serve justices better than having gotten straight A’s at one of two law schools.

Interestingly, Barack Obama seems to have a strong sense of all this. Indeed, Obama himself is an example of someone who took the road less traveled: After being president of the Harvard Law Review, he didn’t take a judicial clerkship or a job with a fancy law firm.

Instead, he went into politics—first as a community organizer, then in the Illinois state legislature. He wrote nonacademic books. He turned down a tenured position at the University of Chicago Law School.

In short, he didn’t play the game by its current rules. (If he had, he would probably now be a judge on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, and his name would get floated as a possible Supreme Court nominee.)

And some of his comments reflect his uneasiness with those rules. For example, on the presidential campaign trail he said, “[S]ometimes we're only looking at academics or people who've been in the [lower courts]. If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that's the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court.”

Obama, at least, seems to understand the importance of maintaining a diverse definition of diversity. Let’s hope he remembers it when he chooses Souter’s replacement.

Paul Campos is a professor of law at the University of Colorado at Boulder.


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May 3, 2009 | 7:05am
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Banjo1

Read the story closely and see if you find lesbians mentioned. The hacks who write headlines for Daily Beast are even spinning the articles now.

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8:29 am, May 3, 2009
xbainx

So don't come to the Daily Beast. No one will miss you.

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11:26 am, May 3, 2009
waterflaws

Banjo1, I value constructive criticism, especially of Corporate Media like The Daily Beast. xbainx is wrong and obviously doesn't value free speech (GOP, maybe?)

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1:21 pm, May 3, 2009
Ritarita

waterflaws-
Is xbainx wrong
Because he values
Free speech
Enough to
Use it?

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1:56 pm, May 3, 2009
Czarkazem13

Waterflaws:

What does this have to do with "free speech"?

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12:24 pm, May 4, 2009
doittojulia

I'm sorry, were we promised lesbians?

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11:44 am, May 3, 2009
rimbaud

http://girlinshortshorts.blogspot.com/2009/05/libertarian-guide-to-souter-r eplacement.html

"One woman, who is reportedly on the short list, is Kathleen Sullivan, former Dean of Stanford Law School, and certainly one of the most intelligent persons, and brightest constitutional law experts, on the planet. But if you think the president is going to appoint an out lesbian to the High Court, you been bonging too much Obama.'

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10:15 am, May 4, 2009
GPatton

B**J*1 seems obsessed with homosexuality.

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9:50 am, May 3, 2009
Hawnzz

Banjo always mentions it. He never passes up an opportunity. I've yet to figure out why. It's almost an obsession.

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5:38 pm, May 3, 2009
roger37

I'll tell you why: Because he's terrified that he's gay himself, just like most macho idiots that are obsessed with homosexuality.

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1:00 am, May 8, 2009
flyoverland

I agree. We need a few more State School Justices. Fewer lawyers in Congress and more real people in government.

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11:42 am, May 3, 2009
Banjo1

Get thee to the bath house, xbainx.

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11:51 am, May 3, 2009
Ritarita

Baaaanjo-
Stop it.
It's always the
Bath house.
You have some
Crazy repressed thing
Going on dude.
And while I'm at it
How is it you
Always manage
To be the
First guy on
The page?

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1:03 pm, May 3, 2009
socialworklady

Banjo1,

What's with the fixation on the bath house? If you're going to come out -- come out.

Here are a few sites for you to try -- You will find men who are into bath house culture. Hopefully, once you make some connections, you'll stop trolling (or trying to pick up?) guys here.

http://www.interactivemale.com/whatis/demo/index.jsp
http://gaylife.about.com/mpchat.htm
http://www.menchats.com/addfreegaychat.html

Good luck. And don't forget to wear a condom :)

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1:16 pm, May 3, 2009
socialworklady

Bathhouse Banjo,

Something from a research paper. Thought you might be interested:

"In the Western world, the gay bathhouse plays a significant role in the
lives of men who engage in 'anonymous' sex with other men. Bathhouse
culture and sex are characterized by relative anonymity, non-verbal
discourse, and de-personalized social rituals."

http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/Gay_and_Bisexual_Men_s_Experiences_of_B athhouse_Culture_and_Sex__looking_for_Love.pdf

As you can tell, I'm working on your MO. Here's my current theory:

If your're a male, you're certainly gay and closeted. Probably married and VERY ashamed of your attraction to other men. You find some emotional/sexual release by simply writing the word "bathhouse." It is a vicarious connection to the gay community.

As we read, the bathhouse culture is built on relative anonymity. What is the purpose of user names on these boards, but anonymous way of connecting. Add your need to write "bathhouse" to comments to users you (hope?) are male and .... I think you see where I'm going. I don't have all day to work on this, so will just leave it at that for now.

Lots more from whence this research paper came. Just give me a shout out - use the word bathhouse, and I'll send it all to you :)

Consider it a social service.

Bye for now Bathhouse Banjo. Hope you find what you're looking for.

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1:42 pm, May 3, 2009
xbainx

I love that he has the fucking websites at the ready. Holy crap are you gay dude. Like ultra gay. This is reverse trolling dude. How does it make me look bad if you have the links to the gay sites?


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12:50 am, May 4, 2009
socialworklady

I listed the sites, xbainx. Only took a simple google search. Hoping to steer Banjo in the right direction.

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2:46 am, May 4, 2009
waterflaws

The article neglects to mention the predominance of Catholics on the court. 5 Catholics, 1 Episcopalean (Souter; almost catholic?), 2 Jews, One Protestant. That's 7 christians, 2 Jews, other - Zero. Be nice if they could find a Buddhist, an agnostic, an atheist or a non-abrahamic. Be nice if it was someone on the left, for a change (Bader-Ginsburg is just barely left). Be nice if they weren't rich. Be nice if they weren't Republican or Democrat. Be nice if they believed in the Constitution.

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1:33 pm, May 3, 2009
Issywise

I'm old enough to remember that Souter's nomination was considered "non-diverse" at the time. How about hoping for a legally well trained non-ideologue, possessed of judgment and respect for both tradition and the evolving needs of the nation.

Oh crap! I said "evolving."

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3:51 pm, May 3, 2009
akryan

Well, how about Sarah Palin? She comes from politics, is a woman, she may not be a minority herself but she married one, and she didn't go to a fancy school. She has lots of experience with how the problems of "real American families", She even sympathizes with a secessionist party. How's that for bucking the two party system? The point is: Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

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3:55 pm, May 3, 2009
jds8181

Your post will haunt my dreams! The ascension of Sarah Palin to the SC or her election to the Presidency would surely be a sign of the apocolypse. The headless horsemen would be soon to follow.

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5:58 pm, May 3, 2009
Banjo1

Er, if I was gay, wouldn't the decent thing be to hide it? Family, friends -- wouldn't they deserve consideration?

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4:29 pm, May 3, 2009
socialworklady

Bathhouse,

Well, er, I think your response makes my argument for me :)

Problem is, when you hide it from your family - especially children and a spouse, you end up hurting them more in the long run. Ask Ted Haggard, he'll tell you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard

BTW, if you can, see Alexandra Pelosi's excellent doc, "The Trials of Ted Haggard." You may be able to relate.

And just one more thing: When you push your authentic self into the shadow, it gets mad. Wants to be seen. Things like references to the bathhouse start to show up more often.

Cheers.

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5:06 pm, May 3, 2009
Utaneus

Let's get some UC grads in the court!

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5:18 pm, May 3, 2009
Hawnzz

Back to topic...

It would be nice to have diversity within the court. (Not only in ethnicity, sex, political view, but experience as well) It would be nice if they all were not lawyers. They need some lawyers, especially constitutional lawyers... but not all lawyers.

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5:41 pm, May 3, 2009
Banjo1

Lot of people have had therapy here, judging from the tries at distance psychoanalysis. Deep-seated problems, looks like. But they're making homosexuality seem so awful, like it's the worse thing a person could be. I object to the disproportionate influence this tiny tribe has on the culture, but I certainly don't think they're intrinsically bad. Necessarily.

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5:47 pm, May 3, 2009
socialworklady

Banjo,

Serious?! Then why the bathhouse swipes at xbainx and others?

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6:12 pm, May 3, 2009
xbainx

It's cause I said I wanted to rape him. But as any social worker will tell you that's a violence/power thing, not a sexual thing.

Plus I was joking. Now he's all worked up thinking about it. I would stop arguing with these guys but they are always the first to post and it bothers me. Whatever happened to MarineLtCol?

Now there was a man's man. He wasn't afraid to threaten you with a face to face. Banjo is a coward.

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12:55 am, May 4, 2009
socialworklady

xbainx,

What's up with that? Why did you tell Banjo you would rape him/her? And, while in theory, you're right - rape is usually about power/control, not sex, in reality it's still rape - whatever the motivation.

Plus, there's really no such thing as a rape joke.

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3:32 am, May 4, 2009
Hawnzz

Can we please just drop it and get back to the topic of the article.

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6:24 pm, May 3, 2009
socialworklady

Okay Hawnzz,

Back to the topic ...

Not all lawyers?!!! ..... Really? How about Joe The Plumber for SCROTUS?

I don't know about you, but when I'm having surgery, I want a surgeon doing the job.

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7:45 pm, May 3, 2009
socialworklady

SCROTUS = SCOTUS

Too much of the gay talk in my mind, I guess :)

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11:28 pm, May 3, 2009
Ritarita

socialworklady-
That's really
Funny.

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11:59 pm, May 3, 2009
socialworklady

Ritarita,

I'm still trying to get the visual on that out of my brain pan :)

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3:47 am, May 4, 2009
PatriceFitz

It's okay with me if you want to be gay.

Back to topic: It's considered a basic requirement that a member of the supreme court be trained in the law. Hawnzz, why would you think we wanted someone without that training?

Of course, I'm a lawyer...

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9:22 pm, May 3, 2009
Genni2002

PatriceFitz...am late to the discussion and ya, know about the Banjo gay obsession... about your comment, though. Guess it would be nice to see other view points: chemists, biologists or other technical people, medical field, aerospace, law enforcement, that sort of thing and a few other non-ivy league colleges would be excellent. Nothing against lawyers but am really sick of the Harvard / Yale thing. Turns out their finance people are pretty crap, BTW.

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1:29 am, May 4, 2009
Ritarita

Banjo-
It's not being
Gay that's the
Problem.
It's hiding from it
That makes trouble
In paradise.

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12:03 am, May 4, 2009
xbainx

I want Obama to appoint a 19 year old Native American woman to the court. That is like a quadruple hate bonus for the Republicans. Imagine the land grabs the Indians could get.

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12:52 am, May 4, 2009
socialworklady

Here in the Socialist Republic of Canuckistan, there are four women and five men on the Supreme Court. The Chief Justice, is a woman.

Sadly, there are no First Nations people on the Court (yet).


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2:13 am, May 4, 2009
socialworklady

I should mention that I'm an "out" socialist ;)

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2:24 am, May 4, 2009
freedbyislam

"(If he had, he would probably now be a judge on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, and his name would get floated as a possible Supreme Court nominee.)"
If Obama'd played by the rules, we'd probably be reading an article about John McCain's Supreme Court picks.

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4:32 am, May 5, 2009
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