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Rep. Michele Bachmann’s Wackiest Moments

Michelle Bachmann Lately, the Republican representative from Minnesota is rivaling Vice President Biden and GOP Chairman Michael Steele for inappropriate public comments. But Michele Bachmann’s “psycho-talk” began years ago—here are 12 incidents you may have missed.

She’s the gaffe-prone congresswoman who made waves last week for wondering aloud about the Democrats’ role in the swine-flu epidemic. But long before U.S. Representative Michele Bachmann became infamous for her outrageous public statements, she was just a gay-bashing, God-fearing pol from Minnesota who sometimes said and did things that caused even her fellow home-state public servants to call her assertions “psycho-talk.” From hiding in the bushes at a gay-rights rally to boasting about the marriageability of her 13-year-old daughter, Bachmann has the gift of gab that keeps on giving. Here are 12 of her greatest hits.

Her Divine Calling

Michele Bachmann has friends in high places. Pastor Mac Hammond of the Living World Christian Center, a mega-church in suburban Minneapolis, twice risked his church’s nonprofit status for Bachmann’s campaigns. When he offered her his pulpit during her first run for the House in 2006, she took the opportunity to talk about an even more powerful friend who had endorsed her candidacies: the Lord in Heaven. After God chose her husband for her and then told her she should “submit” to him (he, in turn, told her to study tax law), she says God “called me to run for the Minnesota Senate… God then called me to run for the United States Congress. And I thought, ‘What in the world would that be for?’ And my husband said, ‘You need to do this,’ and I wasn’t so sure. And we took three days, and we fasted and we prayed, and we said, ‘Lord, is this what you want? Is this your will?’ And long about the afternoon of day two, he made that calling sure.”

“False Imprisonment” by Lesbians

Shortly after sponsoring an amendment to ban same-sex marriage in April 2005, Bachmann attended a meeting at a community center in Scandia, Minnesota. At a certain point, witnesses heard a series of “piercing screams” before witnessing the congresswoman emerge from the restroom “in a crouching run” while crying, “I was being held against my will!” Bachmann filed a report with the county sheriff about two women “believed to be part of a LGBT group.” According to the report:

Bachmann said both women stood in front of the bathroom door and then one woman put her hand on top of the door and her other hand on the door handle and leaned her body weight toward the door to hold it shut. The other woman put her hand on the door as well. … [Bachmann said she] was absolutely terrified and has never been that terrorized before as she had no idea what those two women were going to do to her.

The women in question denied holding the door shut and said they were merely chatting with their local senator while waiting in line. Bachmann’s complaint was eventually dismissed.

Dr. Bachmann’s Christian Counseling Center

Perhaps Bachmann’s imprisonment scare in Scandia is connected to her husband’s Christian counseling center, Bachmann & Associates, which specializes in “men’s & women’s issues,” “abuse issues,” “spiritual issues,” and “shame.” Minneapolis’ City Pages magazine spoke to Minneapolis resident Curt Prins in 2006, who attended a Minnesota Pastors’ Summit where both Marcus and Michele Bachmann spoke:

For Marcus Bachmann's session, Prins says there were more than 100 people crammed in a room at Grace, and most of the presentation involved stereotypes of gays. "He was saying how homosexuality was a choice, that it was not genetics," Prins says. "He was claiming there was a high predominance of sexual abuse in the LGBT community. There was no research to back any of this up." (Marcus Bachmann refused to answer questions about the seminar.)

The climax of the presentation was when, according to Prins, Bachmann brought up "three ex-gays, like part of a PowerPoint presentation." The trio, two white men and a black woman, all testified that they had renounced their homosexuality. "One of them said, 'If I was born gay, then I'll have to be born again,'" Prins recalls. "The crowd went crazy."

”Listening to him," Prins surmises, "it becomes clear that he's had a huge impact on her. He might be the spearhead of this whole religious/gay issue."

Dr. Bachmann told City Pages that converting gay people is not the purpose of his practice. "Am I aware that the perception is out there? I can't comment on that." He continued, "If someone is interested in talking to us about their homosexuality, we are open to talking about that. But if someone comes in a homosexual and they want to stay homosexual, I don't have a problem with that."

Her Children’s Marriageability

In a three-page Christmas letter from 2003 acquired by a local blog, Bachmann waxed optimistic on her four children’s suitability as spouses. 13-year-old Elisa “was born to be the perfect wife… Future mates will have to apply as she does not advertise herself.” After marveling at the way her daughter Caroline “pulls her jeans over her 14-inch hips,” Bachmann noted that “King Henry had his six wives, and if our Caroline had been one of them, I think she would have been called Caroline the Vibrant.” She described her son, Harrison, as “utter perfection” and a “female fantasy treasure.” And her eldest son, Lucas, got a cheeky personal ad: “Chick magnate [sic] needs wife to put him through med school, clean house, pay bills and run his life. Must be willing to gamble against onslaught of socialized medicine diminishing return on investment.”

Equating Homosexuality with Pedophilia

Just last week Bachmann spoke on the House floor about the dangers of hate-crimes legislation. Protecting victims of homophobic crime, she explains, means protecting pedophiles:

[P]eople who are practicing pedophiles would be considered protected under this legislation, but not, I understand, veterans, not, I understand, pregnant women, not, I understand, 85-year-old grandmothers would be protected under this law. But who would be protected? A pedophile, someone who considers themselves gay, someone who considers themselves transgender, someone who considers themselves a cross-dresser? That is who is protected.

It wasn’t the first time Bachmann equated gays with child molesters. In 2004, she told a talk-radio host that same-sex marriage is dangerous because “it is our children who are the prize for this community, they are specifically targeting our children.”

Even Jesse Ventura Thinks She’s Wacky

Bachmann got her political start with Minnesota’s Maple River Education Coalition, of which former Governor Jesse Ventura once said, “That Maple River group, they think UFOs are landing next month. They think it’s some big government federal conspiracy!” This from a ex-professional wrestler who’s on the record as saying bipartisan America is “East Berlin” and that 9/11 was an inside job.

Saddam’s Palace: Just Like the Mall of America

Bachmann was among the congressional delegates who visited Iraq in July 2007. Whereas many of her peers came back with doubts about Bush’s war, Bachmann came back with a renewed sense of righteousness—and some groan-worthy Americanisms. She described touring one of Saddam Hussein’s former palaces to the Minneapolis Star Tribune: "It's absolutely huge. I turned to my colleagues and said there's a commonality with the Mall of America, in that it's on that proportion.”

Partially Obscured at a Gay-Rights Rally

Another bizarre Bachmann moment caught on camera: the time she appears to have hidden behind a bush at a gay-rights rally. In 2005, at a protest of her proposed constitutional amendment outlawing same-sex marriage, a student activist caught sight of Bachmann and her posse crouched behind the shrubbery—and had the presence of mind to snap a few pictures, which he posted on his blog. Reached by the Minneapolis Star Tribune for comment, Bachmann pleaded sore feet. “I had high heels on and I just couldn’t stand anymore. I was not in the bushes.” Why was she at the rally? A rumor that “I was going to be a focus of the rally” felt “fairly personal,” she said.

Her Secret Knowledge of a Plan to Give Iraq to Iran

In 2007, Bachmann told Minnesota's St. Cloud Times newspaper that she had knowledge of an “agreement made” between Iraq and Iran: “They are going to get half of Iraq, and that is going to be a terrorist safe-haven zone where they can go ahead and bring about more attacks in the Middle East, and come against the United States.” This was why, she said, Iran wanted the U.S. to pull out of Iraq. Bachmann declined to specify how she learned of the partitioning plan, but noted that it was all part of “their natural cultural ties, the long history of Iran and Iraq wars, and regional security.” The St. Cloud Times posted the interview on their Web site on February 10, but the peculiar Iran-Iraq discourse didn’t find its way into the national press for almost two weeks.

Fears Fellow Congressman Keith Ellison Is a Terrorist. (Actually, He’s Just a Muslim)

In an interview with a San Francisco talk-radio station last month, Bachmann asserted that her colleague, Minnesota Representative Keith Ellison, consorts with known terrorists. Referencing a group of imams arrested in the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport three years ago, she explained, “The imams, the imams, were actually attending, ah, Congressman Keith Ellison’s victory celebration, when he won as a member of Congress.” She went on to talk about terror-related accusations that had been made against the six imams, not mentioning that these allegations had since been disproven. (Nervous airline passengers had apparently misinterpreted the imams’ praying as reminiscent of the 9/11 hijackers’ “patterns.”) Furthermore, the imams were in Minnesota to attend an imam conference—not an Ellison victory party. On MSNBC, Ellison fired back: “This is not true. I think it could even be psycho-talk.” A Bachmann spokesman defended her statement while admitting that “the details may be a little rough.”

Her Gay Stepsister

A surprise visitor came to one of Bachmann’s anti-gay speeches in the Minnesota Capitol: her stepsister Helen LaFave, who attended the event with her same-sex partner of 20 years. At the time, Bachmann claimed she had polled her family members on the gay-marriage ban, and that they’d voted 6-3 in the ban’s favor. But two siblings say she never discussed the issue with them. Stepbrother Michael LaFave notes that, though he’s “proud” of Bachmann, he wishes she “would have been honest. Dick Cheney had the good sense to do that with his daughter…. He knew how much it would hurt his daughter.” Michele Bachmann, more ruthless than Dick Cheney? Perhaps she took it as a compliment.

The Bush Hug That Wouldn’t End

Remember that freshman representative who was so elated to meet President Bush during a State of the Union address that she squeezed his hand, arm, and shoulder for more than 30 seconds, grinning wildly at the camera and clinging to him “like a teenage girl meeting Justin Timberlake”? That’s our belle, Michele.

Maureen O'Connor is an assistant editor at The Daily Beast.


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menckenlite

US Rep. Bachmann does not compare with Joe Biden who is in a league by himself. O'Connor ridicules Bachmann for her opinions and speculations. Obama is the "57 states" man. Why are liberals permitted to get facts wrong, but conservatives are attacked for their opinions? Is there a large group that believes that there are 57 states? There is a large group that shares Rep. Bachman's views. Why do journalists make fun of political positions of Republicans, but praise irrational comments by Democrats? This is journalism? Isn't it more like propaganda or public relations? What Joe Biden meant to say is . . . Journalists can fool some of the people all the time. That does not justify what they do.

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7:39 am, May 4, 2009

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8:33 am, May 4, 2009

mindlessmissy

Absolutely ...

There is a difference between being completely CLUELESS and a slip of tongue ...

Bachmann NEEDS to further her education or just shut the heck up if she is NOT sure of what she is about to spew ...

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9:42 am, May 4, 2009

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8:14 pm, May 4, 2009

Ritarita

mencken-
It's the Lord's
Will that you
Watch those clips
Again
But this time
Listen to the
Words.
All of your
Questions
Shall be
Answered.

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8:38 am, May 4, 2009

bravian

There is a difference between a tired individual on the campaign trail mispeaking 47 and 57 and a person who is knowingly ignorant of basic facts like Bachmann is. There is no comparison between the two on any level.

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9:22 am, May 4, 2009

tankertodd

Both Biden and Obama are ignorant of basic facts. Both are blindingly ignorant on how raising taxes generates lower revenue. The fact that lower taxes generates more revenue has been documented and proven for years. Of course the Democratic Party doesn't believe it either, so I guess I called them ignorant too. :-)

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3:49 pm, May 4, 2009

emPulse

Tankertodd**

he says that 30 yrs of trickle down economics has made us successful.. just take a look at your 401ks, deregualtion of the corps, the fact that 80% of the top US earning companies have paid 0% of their tax liability. Yep it's working real good. Who was it that is ignorant again..?

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6:02 pm, May 4, 2009

tankertodd

emPulse: don't cherry-pick your facts. Look at what else happened in the last 30 years. Cell phones, iPods, incredible technological developments. Those cool gadgets and technologies didn't shit themselves. They required a climate where entrepreneurs could take risks to become rich. Do you think the government could come up with the iPod?

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11:19 pm, May 4, 2009

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2:03 pm, May 5, 2009

Kwakkbo

Tank

Anyone, and I mean anyone from neoliberal to marxist to free marketeer, who has taken a basic macro-economics course at any university in the last 5 years can tell you that the tired theory you are putting forward was disproven in the early 90's after the disastrous Reagan policies left the nation indebted and inequality became rampant. It took Clinton 6 years to balance the budget, which it then took bush 1 year to undo.

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10:43 am, Sep 4, 2009

LeighBeast

Seriously - There is no comparison between the two. I'm guessing that you are joking because no rational person would make such a comparison. (I'm giving you an out ... take it.)

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11:02 am, May 4, 2009

ittybittykitty

While it is true that Joe Biden does misspeak, it is evident that there is something going on between his ears. I have seen absolutely not evidence of that with Ms. Bachman.

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11:30 am, May 4, 2009

redleaf

That was said during the primary when he was fighting for votes in places like Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and other areas that aren't states but as far as primary votes go they are pretty close.

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3:13 pm, May 4, 2009

idiotking

Oy vey, I'm sick of that "57 States" canard... there were, in fact, 57 separate contests in the Democratic primary. So while he may have misspoken, at least it's a pretty understandable one with SOME basis in reality... as opposed to most of this nutjob's blatherings.

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4:10 pm, May 4, 2009

diogeron

I've never heard Joe Biden say anything as arrogant and stupid as Bachmann's claim that she was called to politics by God. It doesn't matter to me if Bachmann were a flaming liberal, an independent or a conservative Republican. The bottom line is that the woman is a whack job and anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows it, irrespective of their politics.

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5:01 pm, May 4, 2009

ncopas

I'm glad several people already replied to this... person. Menckenlite, there's a difference between misspeaking and speaking out of your rear end. It's one thing to say one number accidentally when you meant another, and another thing to be a uber-right religious lunatic like this woman. Why, in the 21st century, should women still be 'submissive' for instance? Haven't we gotten past that in this day and age? And most importantly, are you menckenlite, in fact a retarded person?
"Why do journalists make fun of political positions of Republicans, but praise irrational comments by Democrats?" You sound like Ann Coulter, constantly complaining about how the democrats have it so easy and always whine about being victims, when the whole time you don't realize the inherent irony of you trying to victimize yourself as you're saying it. "They're always the victims, when is it our turn... ::sob::"
People like you with blind idiotic faith in something with no logical basis are the reason why America is/was so unpopular. You think you own the world and can't see outside your bubble. Open your eyes: the media rips on everyone, no matter how much you cry about the bad things they say about your side.

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11:11 am, May 5, 2009

Jen821

Aw, don't put down retarded people by relating that idiot to them.

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1:58 pm, May 5, 2009

irisen

People don't make fun of her political positions. She's a conservative and that's OK. This lady has a serious psychiatric problem. Ideas of grandiosity ("God chose me"), narcisistic symptoms, delusions of grandeur... This isn't propaganda. She needs serious psychiatric intervention. She shouldn't be in Congress influencing policy. People from MN should be more carefully in choosing the people they send to Washington.

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11:56 am, May 5, 2009

Jen821

The difference is, slipping up and saying there are 57 states, or even truly believing said statement, didn't hurt anyone like her anti-everything movements do.

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1:54 pm, May 5, 2009

SodamY

Wait wait wait, you're comparing a mental hiccup with a crazed religious fundamentalist spouting craziness? Your journalism complaint is equally invalid, until the day you quit watching FOX News and listening to talk radio you can't talk.

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4:58 pm, May 5, 2009

sbichl

Wow, please work on your analogies menkenlite, using a few gaffes by Biden (including the 57 states comment???), with a woman who is on record as equating homosexuality with pedophelia are not one in the same. This woman is truly in a league of her own when it comes to demagoguery and hate!

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6:30 pm, May 5, 2009

jasper757

"There is a large group that shares Rep. Bachman's views."

There is? I hope you're wrong about that. If not, then we are doomed.

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7:16 pm, May 5, 2009

Leprekike

"There is a large group that shares Rep. Bachman's views." Any of you ever watch the documentary 'Jesus Camp'? Right in the heart of America is a virtual army of like-minded religious sycophants just waiting for the sinners to be fried by Jesus' triumphant return. Someone as psycho as Bachmann could never be able to hide her insanity from her constituents for too long, so they must have known all they needed to know about her. Even Al Franken is a nutjob in his own right...maybe we should just give Minnesota back to the Native Americans or sell it off to Canada for some Molson Export Ale, or maybe a case of moose antlers.

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4:37 pm, Nov 2, 2009

krechsd

What do you think, Palin/Bachmann 2012?

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5:02 am, May 7, 2009

Abelard

I think that would be perfect! I'd *love* to watch the debates...

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6:35 pm, May 7, 2009

JohnJay60

menckenlite, I think you make my point for me. There is NOT a large group who believe we have 57 states, and Obama is not in that group. It was a quick one-second mistake, not part of a continuous thread. Why the obsession with "57 states"? This was clearly a mistake, not a policy statement.

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8:30 am, May 7, 2009

Banjo1

The left
wants the
right to shut
up or face the
consequences.
See! I too a poet.

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9:02 am, May 4, 2009

Ritarita

Get thee to
The bath house
Banjo-
For the three hundredth
Time
It's not poetry.

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9:28 am, May 4, 2009

TavernWench

Besides, rita...
Everyone knows the last thing
The "Left" wants
Is for Michelle Bachmann
To shut up.
Keep
'Em
Comin'
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4:33 pm, May 4, 2009

Ritarita

TWench-
It's true.
I love her
A lot.

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6:38 pm, May 4, 2009

desutton3

Ritarita,
Lovely Meter.

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11:21 am, May 6, 2009

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9:29 am, May 4, 2009

ittybittykitty

Well said! After all, we are all in this together! Everyone's opinion is valid. Let's just be civil and make intelligent arguments.

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11:34 am, May 4, 2009

emPulse

How many time shave you heard Republicans come forward and say "We were wrong, we made a mistake.." ? I will help you -- ZERO.

Dems will shit on their own in a heartbeat. Lockstep.. holy shit.. i wish.

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6:04 pm, May 4, 2009

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6:42 pm, May 4, 2009

GVidal

This ugly hag is the worst elected person in office. She was an ex lesbian who now is a fundie adn completely off her rocker. Hell bound and nutty - she should be arrested.

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9:10 am, May 4, 2009

bravian

Bachmann is many things but "ex lesbian"? Is that all you can come up with after all she's done? And exactly what should she be arrested for? Perhaps you should learn about about the First Amendment before making such ignorant comments.

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9:25 am, May 4, 2009

idiotking

You insult Gore Vidal with your screenname, and lesbians everywhere with your assertion that Bachmann was one of them!

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4:12 pm, May 4, 2009

GVidal

Bachmann is bonkers!
She is the laughing stock of the Congress - I hope she stays in office becuase each year she does, Republicans lose 10 seats! What a shame for Minnesota to have this noose around their neck....but I think she has run her course and will be voted out soon enough so she can go back to housecleaning like the dutiful fool she is.

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9:13 am, May 4, 2009

Seniorita

while i do think that bachmann is wacky (especially if that christmas card thing is true!) I tend to agree with menckenlite. She is being attacked for her (and her husbands) personal beliefs. While I dont agree with all of them, I wont attack her for her beliefs. Just like I will not attack Biden for believing that his family should not get on subways or planes with the swineflu scare. If this is what Biden belives is best- that is fine (kind of a shame though that the President is trying to give the country a different message...)
The "bush hug that wouldn't end"- please! this is no more bizarre than Pelosi's cheerleader moves for Obama when he addressed Congress.
Also, those pictures from Bachmann at the gay rally-- she is not "crouching" behind a bush. It looks like she really is just sitting on a ledge of some sort-talking to someone. Not even facing the rally! Several people on that blog dismissed those photos.

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9:49 am, May 4, 2009

ittybittykitty

Maybe she had to pee! Actually, I don't think that people are attacking her for her views, but for those crazy and illogical comments she makes. How in the world would a Democrat being in office have anything to do with a flu epidemic?

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11:39 am, May 4, 2009

Seniorita

some of her comments are crazy, no doubt! Blaming flu epidemic on democrats is ludacris and calling out a politician as a terrorist is too! But, I don't think it is sooo crazy that she talks about religious guidance and submission...they are her christian beliefs.

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1:02 pm, May 4, 2009

sippewissett

Most especially since she was wrong and it was a Republican president last time we had a flu epidemic. If she would fact-check, she could at least choke back her prejudices for another day. (Every pol has staff to do the scut work.) Her world view is narrow and narrow-minded.

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5:45 pm, May 4, 2009

trisha08

The fact is, it's not just her "personal belief" anymore. She is an elected official and uses her platform to promote her beliefs in her policies and politics.
She can "believe" whatever she wants, but she has no business trying to legislate her morality (if that's what we can call it) on everyone else. She is a nut job and I can't believe she has been reelected.

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1:24 pm, May 4, 2009

idiotking

I'm more a fan of saying "while everyone's entitled to their own opinions, they're not entitled to their own facts."

Or, in Bachmann's case, their own bizzare garbled fantasies imagined whilst huffing airplane glue.

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4:13 pm, May 4, 2009

sippewissett

I'm surprised at the number of postings that don't distinguish between Bachmann's weirdness vs. Biden (or other pol) suffering from foot-in-mouth disease. This is not about politics: Bachmann would be crazy if she were a Dem, but she IS crazy anyway.

I'm also surprised to read postings that think Bachmann is being attacked solely because of her personal beliefs. She's not. She's being attacked for bringing witless "thinking" into Congress and speaking about that "thinking" in front of a microphone for the world (AKA YouTube) to listen to. I don't care what a person's personal beliefs are IF they remain personal, but Bachmann tries to influence others with her mindless -- or like Palin, "magical" -- beliefs.

I can only pray that Minnesotans know how bad a representative she is and how embarassing it is to send her back to Congress next time. I don't live in MN, but will support her Democratic opposition during the next election because I don't want people who are dumb as a post voting on national legislation. She scares me.

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5:42 pm, May 4, 2009

cbeenthere

She has made her views re homosexuality well known; and not appropriately. So what in the blue blazes was she even doing there???

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11:35 am, May 5, 2009

ghpdb60

Indeed Scary. I have some experience with Christian fundamentalists and fundamentalism. Most of them are very well meaning and sincere Christians and Americans. The scary thing about them, including most especially Michelle Bachman and her husband, is that they have been trained not to think. Some, however, think very well and use this fundamentalist philosophy for personal gain, i.e. they have figured it all out but keep that little fact to themselves while preying on the vulnerability of those who haven't figured it out yet. The Bachmans could be in either category because it is very difficult to tell the two (categories) apart. This religious insanity is almost always associated with so-called political conservatism.

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9:54 am, May 4, 2009

Helenann

Now, not discounting the rest of the article, and I know I'll take flak for this, but I would wish ALL of my state's representatives prayed and fasted for what they were supposed to do next.

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9:57 am, May 4, 2009

sippewissett

Yes, but you would not exclude "thinking", would you? It's the absence of cognition that is most alarming in Bachmann's case.

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5:46 pm, May 4, 2009

irisen

I never discount faith, but being rational, cognizant and well informed is very important, too. Faith and rationalism are like the wings of a bird: the human spirit only will soar when they are equally developed. I'm OK for asking guidance from a higher authority, but she needed to have all ducks in a row: "why do I want to be in Congress, what do I want to accomplish". That's what is missing in Mrs. Bachman's views.

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12:30 pm, May 5, 2009

Abelard

No flak from me. Indeed, I say "Amen"... :)

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6:38 pm, May 7, 2009

lafont

Tell you what. The LAST thing I want writing my laws is somebody who is starving himself and hearing voices that aren't there...

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10:40 am, May 4, 2009

sippewissett

...or wants "Joe Six Pack" in the white house, along with "real Americans"...There's a lot of insanity that has come out of the woodwork since 2008 and some of it is IN Congress.

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5:47 pm, May 4, 2009

Hawnzz

Fundamentalism is scary in any religion because it locks out reason. (And science) I have a cousin who is schizophrenic, and I love him. But I know that I can't take his world view as legitimate. If you know the disease... you know what I'm talking about. (He can't help it.)

But this woman knows nothing of Christianity. I think Jesus would be ashamed. Everything that comes out of her mouth is just filled with bile. It makes me sad, and I pity her. Even if you think homosexuality is a choice, (which makes absolutely no sense... like wanting to be a Jew in Nazi Germany) they are people too.

Being originally from Minnesota... I can't believe this otherwise progressive state would ever elect this woman.

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10:40 am, May 4, 2009

Martyz42

I am going to send her money that way she will keep it up. This woman is the best ongoing commercial that normal thinking adults can have. This woman is without question even more ignorant then Sarah Palin & that is saying something. I wish both of them would form a tour together & both just wonder the nation "TALKING", that would get give the House Democrat's say another 20 seats & the Senate might gain say another 7 seats. Keep it up ladies, we the normal of the land love to see & hear you both.

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10:47 am, May 4, 2009

DavidDial

That this woman could be elected to public office is a strong argument against becoming overly infatuated with democracy, She may be the poster girl for what Madison was talking about in the Federalist #10 when he discussed "faction"

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11:04 am, May 4, 2009

GREGORYABUTLER

So, your answer is dictatorship?

Ask a Saudi Arabian about that one.

Or a North Korean.

As Churchill said - "Democracy is the worst form of government....except for all the others"!

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12:10 pm, May 4, 2009

al-nafs

@GREGORYABUTLER: Way to jump to an extreme point of view! Democracy is not perfect, as you acknowledge in your Churchill quote. While I believe it is the best form of government that humans have come up with, it still has very human flaws that should be well understood and not glossed over.

In fact, Federalist #10 was discussing one of them, the tendency of one group or faction to unite against the rights of another group.

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa10.htm

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4:41 pm, May 4, 2009

Leprekike

The problem isn't democracy, which we don't really have (democratic republic, folks...big difference). The problem is that we are still beholden to the vagaries of human thought, as in the inability of most humans to actually think rationally. All too often we take our 'facts' and talking points from others rather than spend the time necessary to formulate cogent arguments and understand the true nature of any situation. Sure, it's a lot easier to do that when there are so many other things that seem to demand our attention, but we shouldn't use the stupidity of our elected representatives to absolve us of our responsibility to make sure that those idiots don't represent us in the first place. WE put all of those scumbags in office, and if we band together and demand a better product we will get one. As long as we allow the two-party system to define our thinking we will only experience two sides of the same coin, and we can't blame anyone else but ourselves. Maxine Waters, Bachmann, Biden, Bush, Obama...WE are to blame for their inabilites and their inadequacies.

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4:50 pm, Nov 2, 2009

GREGORYABUTLER

Bachman is INSANE!

Being "held hostage" by lesbians in a ladies room?

I suspect that she was having the female version of a Larry Craig moment - she was "held hostage" by her secret closet lesbianism...she was probably flirting with the women, and then realized that, as a good Xtian, she's not supposed to be gay!

She was fleeing her own lesbianism!

Why else would she be hiding in the bushes at a LGBT rights rally?

She secretly wanted to "come out" and attend - but her knuckleheaded Xtianism got in the way!

She has to go on about "submitting" to her husband (even though, as the congresswoman in the family, SHE is the "breadwinner" and the dominant person - the Sarah Palin contradiction redux) and how "marriageable" her 13 year old daughter is to hide the true her... the true GAY her!!!

And that whole chatter about how sexually attractive her kids are - that's just straight up pedophilia! And we all know that most kids are sexually abused by their parents - and that women pedophiles are almost never caught!

As for the stuff about Rep Ellison - that's just garden variety anti Black and anti Muslim racism - it's pretty standard, she's just nuts enough to say it in public!

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12:09 pm, May 4, 2009

Ritarita

GREGORY-
Held hostage
By lesbians in
A ladies room...
I'd give money to see
Her Netflix order
Wouldn't you?

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6:43 pm, May 4, 2009

AlwaysOptimistic

One could feel sorry for her, if she wasn't so scary with her nasty rhetoric. It is these kinds of "fanatical" Christians that give Christianity a bad name. I somehow think if Jesus were to return to earth as a "lesbian", Ms. Bachmann would not recognize our Lord, and would be the first to have Her crucified for a second time.

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12:57 pm, May 4, 2009

socialworklady

Bachmann makes god sound like a pimp:

"I didn't want to go but god said I had to. Why on earth would I want to go to law school and then study tax law. But god said, be submissive. I had no idea, no desire to be in prostitution -- I mean politics -- but god said I had to."

And he sent his little henchman, her husband, just to make sure she complied ....

And at the end of it all, she realized that she was a FOOL FOR CHRIST.

Oh, for Christ's sake - how about just a FOOL, plain and simple?

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1:28 pm, May 4, 2009

trisha08

Why is it that most of today's public "Christians" are the most vile, judgemental and hateful people out there. Think of Palin and Ms. Bachmann. I really doubt that Jesus wouldn't have anything to do with them. Yet, they are so full of themselves and their "Christianity" that they think they are "doing the work of the Lord. Sick, really sick.

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Rep. Michele Bachmann’s Wackiest Moments

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