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Outrage, a controversial new documentary that "outs" some prominent politicians that it claims are gay (including a 2010 Senate candidate) premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival. Reporter Jason Bellini interviews the film’s director, and looks at what the mainstream media have said—and haven’t said—about the film.
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Well, the governor is toast now. He can say goodbye to any future political career. The documentary shows what knots the MSM ties itself into in obeisance to the dictates of political correctness. Remember the Florida congressman (what is it about Florida?) who was making moves on young pages. The MSM media knew his "orientation," but kept it hushed up. And it wonders why it faces a crisis that threatens its existence. Alert to homosexual politicians: vicious gay vigilantes aim to destroy your lives and careers because you won't sign on to the agenda. Might as well resign and get it over with unless your district is in Boston, West Hollywood, San Francisco or some other bath house capital.
So...if you're a gay politician and you're against gay marriage and gay adoption and anti-hate crime that would protect you and others like you...it's the "gay vigilantes" who are vicious?
In terms of the media, t's funny that you talk about "orientation" being hushed up. "Orientation" is never hushed up unless you're talking about someone who's gay. That's because the classic mainstream media doesn't know how to handle homosexuality, and still places it in the category of something that's psychologically wrong or religiously immoral, rather than something that just "is," like heterosexuality. The only reason for hushing anyone's homosexuality up is because it allows a presupposition of moral superiority, even though that supposition is blatantly false. The vast majority of sex crimes in the world are committed by heterosexuals, but homosexuals still make for great scapegoats.
By the way, the mainstream media is facing no crisis. Newspapers, maybe, but they alone do not make up the media (or it would be called medium).
The reliable dose of hate soaking out from Banjo's bowels: Who cares if any politician is gay? Should Alexander and Fredrick the Greats have been "toast" as generals because they were Gay?
Banjo.....I'll slow down so you get it: There is no correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia, bestiality or any other perversion you care to wallpaper onto Gay people. A Gay pedophile is no more a condemnation of all Gays than Woody Allen is of all straights.
Grow up. Pull your hate filled head out of your fanny.
By the way Einstein, Florida's governor just got married. If anybody is "toast," it will only be because some of you haters are too ready to form an unthinking lynch mob and go after anybody you can get away with lynching.
Try to walk in the light of rationality and good citizenship for a while. Your hate stains every thing you write.
So you think that getting married means on is not Gay? Yea, you're really in the know.
johngiovanni... well, it means he sure isn't having any sex with a woman! BA-dum CHA!
this is an example of why the truth about sex will shake up social conservatives a little. they increasingly sound like a desparate public ralations firm rather than a fellow human. these irrelevant excuses for treating people unfairly are crumbling quickly, and are actually speeding social conservatives to the human truth faster.
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Banjo, sorry for you. You are going to have a hard time living in the 21st century.We actually already have gay politicians. And gay tv presenters. And gay columnists. And gay firemen. And gay cops. And gay farmers. And (lots of) gay soldiers (many of whom died for their country). All are out of the closet.
Awwwwww, Banjii (short for Banjii Boi, fine young buck lurkin' around on the D.L.?), I sense you just need some love. And I, a semi-reformed Natural Born Hooker, am here to give you all that love - and attention - you so obviously crave ... for free!
Though I can see why your meant-to-provoke comments are doing their job and driving my gay brothers to distraction, you seem to be operating on knowledge of the LGBT (hold the mayo) community that's about 20 years out of date. All of your puffed up "facts" about said community seem drawn from Scott O'Hara's "Autopornography," circa 1997, describing his "life in the lust lane" circa ... the 80's (O'Hara was a porn star of that era.)
And Banjii Boi, your references to ... bathhouses?!? are really puzzling. Though bathhouses are definitely part of the mix, most horny young bucks suck er, such, as yourself usually head on over to the internet. Like, TheDailyBeast. Uh, yeah, lots of prospects here, Banjii. Maybe Miss Brown can hook you up with one of her friends, the sweet, effete queens who populate Carrie Bradshaw's Sex & the City? Or, oh, no, they're actually out of the closet ... zipping over to the bathhouses after having lunch with their straight lady friends. Ah, now your logic starts making sense. And there, for a minute, my head was tied up in knots with your nonsensical - whimsical! - out-of-date notions.
I'm guessing, a couple of your friends got sick (and died) in the 80's and, scared by what you saw, you fled for Bucks County, Penn. And there you've remained, Banjii, quivering under quilt covers at night, looking at gay porn by flashlight and "dating" girls.
Back to reading and hiding / cowering under the covers ("Bedtime for Banjii Boy"?), since you refer to LGBT people as all reading facist tracts (yes, it's true, there's a reading list: we are all required to subscribe and memorize said tracts or risk losing our pink, LGBT card and banishment from local starbucks, trader joe's, etc.)
F.Y.I., Banjii Boy, in March 2009, A Different Light, located for years in the center of West Hollywood's mainstream community closed for lack of business. It's closure followed on the heels - actually, low slung mules - of the Oscar Wilde Bookstore, located in another epicenter of queerness, Greenwich Village.
LGBT readers have migrated, along with many others in the Western world, to on-line purchases. If you search Amazon's Top Ten LGBT book sales, what you might be ***surprised*** to see is that the titles are all ... romances. Yup. LGBT dream about meeting the one and falling in love and living happily ever after. Just like "straight" people such as yo'self, Banjii Boi.
The other "facist tracts" to which you refer, Banjii Boi, are found in the impossible to attain (unless you're a 16 y.o. boy and some queers - heavens! my pearls just broke from clutching! - are that young) pictorials featured in the pages of OUT, Instinct and well, I'd say, Genre, but that facist tract / magazine just folded, too. Shocking, truly shocking images of hot, young, muscular lads frolicing about and wearing ... bathing suits! The tight, European "bikini" cut.
Since we're on the topic of young peeps, Banjii Boi, the truth is, the front lines of the LBGT movement moved to the middle school next door to your church, Banjii.
Even if yours is but a furtive glance, Banjii, at the check line, pick up this week's PEOPLE magazine (it's hard to miss: Kirstie Alley's weight gain shame fills the cover.)
Inside, smushed between Miss Alley's enormous thighs, you'll find a story about two kids - one ten, the other eleven - who'd been ruthlessly teased, decided they'd enough and hung themselves.
Gay "rights" are being fought for in ridiculous homophobic postings such as yours, Banjii Boy, but by Carl Walker, the 11 year old boy who committed suicide because he can't take the homophobic bullying.
No, Banjii Boi, what's truly shocking is not Charles Crist et al: it's that the LGBT "community" has stood by and let media visibility stand in for "rights," while doing nothing while Carl Walker's keep killing themselves upstairs.
The truth is, if LGBT had protection in school, could date - yes, date - one another, and access to history about themselves, we would be facing a very different world. And that, Banjii Boi, would be true reason for you to be quaking in your penny loafers. But that's not going to happen anytime soon, so you're safe -! safe! - at home, cowering under the covers, jerking off to tattered porn.
So, Banjii Boi, go on with your hatefilled attacks. We still love you. Even though you're really no better than the ragefilled bully stalking sissy boys on the playground. Banjii Boi who, really, hates no one more than himself, and can't bear to look at the mirror, terrified of seeing the reflection of the self-loathing in his face ...
Could you possibly be more obvious? The research is conclusive and never varies: guys who go on about homosexuality are just telling you what is on their mind most of the time. A comfortably heterosexual wouldn't even think to bring it up or waste a breath on it.
"vicious gay vigilantes" seems a bit of a stretch when the film maker is reporting on hypocrisy...
while "some other bath house capital" also seems a gratituous disengenous insult...
all of which shows that many are willing to ignore the difference between orientation and the truth.
Would Banjo1 prefer the dishonest "don't ask, don't tell" policy for all politicans and the media in a conspiracy to keep honest investigative journalism at bay when it comes to the simple question of what role our orientaiton plays in our politics and the shame attached to same-sex orientation?
My own view, honesty is the best policy and let the chips fall where they may. Don't lie, tell the truth.
Great piece. It's a difficult topic. The most interesting story is how the press isn't covering it. The closet might be holding them back as well. Glad the Daily Beast took the lead.
Jason Bellini's piece is good and fair. I have long been a supporter of outing against hypocrites in power. You cannot have it both ways - secretely indulge in a lifestyle that publicly you scorn. Period. more attention should be paid to this. It is stunning to me that the media will not cover this issue more. One of the reasons I support truth in outing is that I don't think being gay is bad or needs to be a secret. Now if someone has cheated on their heterosexual spouse, that is their fault. If they have a marriage of convenience, then this should be no big deal for them. Also, there is no need to take anti-gay positions for politicians at all. Many of these folks could shut up or abstain from voting, but instead they stake out a position that history will show was bigoted.
Thank you Jason for doing this piece.
Like anyone, gays can be their own worst enemies. While I have no problem with gay marriage I feel it is an overblown issue on the left. I know plenty of gay men that are in committed relationships that have no intention of ever getting married. They feel that mainstream issues such as their healthcare and the national economy are much bigger issues and effect their lives much more than gay marriage. I have no issue with "outing" politicians as long as there is the evidence behind the accusations. This film appears to have circumstantial evidence on Gov Crisp. If that is the case, at the end of the day the director will look petty and vindictive and the whole exercise will backfire.
Well Milkman, if you think it is an "overblown issue of the left" then you must have thought civil rights was the same. They are both about whether or not we as a nation actually believe in equal protection. Lots of "enlightened" white people a generation ago didn't see any problem with "collards," but resented them making such a stir to vindicate equal protection. How "equal" are you willing to allow them to be?
If, as you say, you are enlightened enough to appreciate the rights of Gay people, why shouldn't they have the same rights has heterosexuals? How does Gay marriage hurt you personally or injure the public welfare?
In other words, why "overblown?"
Like I said I have nothing against gay marriage or gay adoption or or gays in the military or gay anything else gays want and feel they have to have or have the right to. The right wing has made an issue of gay marriage and it could be argued that it cost Kerry the election in 2004. I know many gay men and NONE of the ones that I know want to marry each other. Take that for what it is. I do know that these guys are worried about the same things that the 99.9 percent of the population, gay and non gay care about like affordable health care, a thriving economy where they can get a job and a climate that isn't going out of control. That's what I mean by OVERBLOWN...get it. I listen and hear more about gay marriage in the media these days than just about everything else. Sorry if i don't think it ranks up there with nuclear catastrophe...maybe it's just me.
It gets down to one questions milkman: When is it "overblown" to expect a nation founded on the idea of equality to treat its citizens equally? All the good liberals preachers who told Martin Luther King, as he sat in the Birmingham jail, that he should slow down and wait his turn because other issues were more important than equal treatment for Blacks would understand perfectly what you are saying.
As King pointed out in his Letter from a Birmingham Jail, those fine preachers (nor you today) were the ones being discriminated against. You are just as wrong as they were.
Who hell do you think you are to tell millions of Americans when they should realize equal treatment before the law and that other things are more important today? What makes you think that giving them equal rights will slow down progress on health care, "thriving economy" and job creation? Your rationale for delay sounds a bit disingenuous: toleration of discrimination for reasons you haven't got to the bottom of in your own head.
So if now isn't the right time for them to get equal right, when will get around to deciding it is? Never maybe?
If you are making excuses for Obama, then you are formulating your social views to serve a partisan interest. You have drifted into as state of partisan sophistry. Politicians may need to act that way, but you don't have to. You can believe in what you believe in without making excuses for them and a miracle will happen--the political dynamic will change and they will feel free, indeed compelled, to act on what's right.
Let me say again I have nothing against gay marriage, it's a implicit right granted by our constitution. However, the comparison of gay marriage and civil rights for African-Americans is insulting, shows a narrow mindedness, and lack of knowledge of history on your part. Maybe you could compare it to the oppression of the German Jews in the 1930's or the holocaust? How about the people in Hiroshima who survived the atomic bomb? What else can you conjure up to compare what I guess you see as the greatest, most pressing issue in the world today? It's more important than world hunger, a cure for aids, cancer, the genocides in Rwanda and Darfur. I assume you think that the Obama administration should drop everything and bring the congress a bill for gay marriage. In my opinion you have a selfish, self centered view of this issue as I assume you think the same of mine. I think I'm right that other issues such as healthcare and the economy that effect everyone not just gay people are more important. Obviously you disagree and I disagree with you. So here's to hoping that your dream comes true someday and mine does also.
Milkman, your gay friends may "have no intention of getting married" until one of them is not allowed to see the other one in the hospital because they are not "family" or won't be able to inherit any property they have accumulated over the past 20 years. Your friends do not speak for the lesbians I know, including myself, who value inclusion in the institution of marriage and the responsibilities, privileges, and protections for my children that come with it.
My "gay" friends in committed relationships share the same things as married people, the big thing being health insurance. I guess they're satisfied. If you want more "marriage type rights" then look into a California style domestic partnership. You get almost very right a married couple do. If you really want to get married you can now in several states. Of course you probably know all this already. If you want to leave money or property to someone make a will. I hope in the future you can get married to whomever you wish and are happy!!
banjodude, you're predictably ignorant and ubiquitous on gay comment boards.
who are you trying to impress? gays? why?
Look, you know as well as I do why banjo1 wants to impress gay men!
Don't YOU usually try and impress the people you want to have sex with?
Did anybody notice the filmmaker's surname is Dick?
Why not reveal the hypocrisy of the Gay Liberals!
sorry, after millenia of violence and oppression, the bully is not gonna win the victim game. for the first time in forever gays are telling the world we refuse to be physically and mentally abused anymore. that takes huge courage and i think you actually respect that, but you mistake it for fear of us. the conservative angry flip is tres vogue right now, but it's wearing thin, showing itself as a mere trick to keep the focus on the bigger threat to freedom from ignorance. my, you're suddenly such hothouse orchids. obsess about our ragged style all you want, but that' no excuse for obstructing equality.
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"This film appears to have"...
so i take you haven't seen the film you're judging? i think that outing, whether you agree with the technique or not, will lead to truths beyond the individual person. your discomfort is like birthpains of the secrets of what it is to be human.
the more homosexuality is discussed, positively or negatively, the more people support equal rights. they see it is a rather normal state of (human) being that shouldn't be punished or oppressed anymore.
You're correct...I haven't seen the movie. I am making statements based on the written and spoken words in this article. I don't mind "outing' people who are hypocrites. It APPEARS to me, JUDGING by what I have to read and hear in the above article, that CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE was used in the "PRESUMED outing" of Gov Charlie Crisp. If I am wrong then I accept that. If you think that "outing" someone based on evidence that is second or third hand is a good idea because you don't like their views then I disagree with you. I THINK that this does not help the cause of gay rights.
The director will definitely not look petty. Charlie Crist is as queer as...
There was a quickie wedding at the end of the year as there was talk of a DC appointment of some sort. She, a millionaire socialite, he, still renting an apartment. Go figure.
The talk around Tallahassee is/was that his honor, the governor, is a giving and generous man. lol
this is one of many rocky paths to the highway. but don't worry for us, protest and social (dare i all it?) revolution, or at least social adjustment, like democracy, is messy.
these legislators, right or left, are grownups and don't need you or me to fight their battles.
but as a gay i have a few of my own battles every single day. i'm 50 and won't live to see full equality, but i can do some things and speak my mind -- a freedom that opponents claim is taken away when they're disagreed with!
zkazan - unless you've slept w Charlie Crist, you might want to rethink your slanderous comment.
Personally, Crist can be gay or not. As a govenor, he's highly popular and respected in Florida.
If a gay filmmaker wants to "out" somebody, then bring on the "bi-sexual" soirees of Barack Obama.
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A liberal sociologist has a say: First, the institution of Marriage is not, it is the Institution of Child Rearing of which marriage is a behaviorial subpart of child rearing. Second, giving institutional status to gay behavior will burden society without counter benifit. Example: where is the benifIt for the added cost of 4 toilet rooms in public places? Argue that one? Then we only need one toilet room in public places.
Keith:
If that was supposed to make sense, it lost me? What is the point you are trying to make? Toilet rooms? Are you on crack?
If Crist is gay, the Republicans will ignore it completely. Because they have a perfect ability to remain in denial about anything if it makes them look hypocritical.
Democrats know they're jerks and hypocrites, but as far as the Republicans are concerned, for all they care we might as well be a bunch of chickens.
To not be a bunch of "chickens" what should Republicans do? What are you proposing?
i think gays are collectively showing the most courage they ever have in the history of the modern world. there is much resentment by opponents who don't like strength from those they consider weak. people will adjust and gays will fit in more and more.
"you learn about love by being loved".
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I saw a program where they interviewed several gay people who are against gay marriage. Of course they're ostercized by the gay community and generally aren't radical about it so you don't hear much from them. But it is possible for Christ to be gay and against gay marriage without being a hypocrite.
There are black people who oppose racial intermarriage, wass that justification for keeping it illegal? There were black people who believed the races should live separate and apart--famous ones, is that a case for continuing to ignore the equal protection clause in the Constitution and keep treating gays as a disfavored minority second class citizens?
Crist (careful with your spelling) can only be against equal legal recognition of gay marriages if he is hypocritical about the right to equal protection under American law. It doesn't matter if he's Gay or not. Anybody who thinks we should classify Americans into groups and then and assign different rights among the groups without any justifying rational purpose must deny that equality is an American value or be a hypocrite.
when andrew sullivan first talked of gays marrying he was ostracized for pushing a str8 lifestyle on us. soon it was seen as a way for full equal citizenship.
str8s or gays can be against marriage FOR THEMSELVES and be for equality. but if you're gay and don't want gays to have full equality, that's what we now view as hypocritical but in the recently passed blinkered days was the extent of what we were taught was possible.
I live in Florida. The rumors about Gov. Crist have been around for years and actually, there is quite a bit of substantiation. Of course, it's okay with me because I'm not one of his voters but, this could be a serious problem for him amongst the religious right in Florida. We'll see if they are more pro-power-Republicans-win-at-any-cost or if they stand on principle and do their anti-gay thing. It'll be interesting.
And what exactly is this "documentary" trying to prove?
Outing political corruption would be a noble enterprise, but a politician's sexual orientation is a private matter in my book.
What bothers me about all of this is that privacy of someone's sexual orientation only comes into play when someone is purported to be homosexual. No one is in the closet about being heterosexual, nor is it ever suggested that a heterosexual's orientation be kept private. It's a double standard, and it goes back to the religious idea that homosexuality is somehow morally inferior to heterosexuality. Quite frankly, I'm very tired of religionists telling me I don't measure up to their moral standards, when I find those standards laughable to say the least.
As far as I'm concerned, a person's sexuality...gay, straight or bi, should be such a non-issue that there should be no reason for it to be a "private matter." That anyone still has to hide their sexual orientation out of fear of moral labeling in this day and age is outrageous.
i think you're missing, accidentally or deliberately, the meaning of irony and harmful hypocrisy.
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You say Murray is "missing, accidentally or deliberately, the meaning of irony and harmful hypocrisy."
I guess I do too. Explain it to us? I'd be interesting to understand what you are seeing there that I cannot.
Amen Murray!
I think this filmmaker would get more airtime discussing why Obama is spending trillions of tax dollars to create the largest BIG GOVERNMENT in history - he's a reality show in the making.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but, can someone please tell me what this movie hopes to accomplish except some notoriety? Also, since when has it become anybody's business what sexual orientation a person has? Charlie Crist is well-liked by the people of Florida and I'm quite sure that as long as he's doing a good job for those people as their Governor, NO ONE
will care what his orientation is.
I think it's outrageous that Kirby Dick seeks to make a name for himself by attempting to ruin the life of a decent, and honorable man. Perhaps Kirby Dick is too preoccupied with his own surname because he's definitely revealed himself to be a dick, in every sense of the word!
It's private until they try to make a point to prove themselves not gay by voting against all gay measures.
Maybe in your book, but not in the fascist text homosexual vigilantes are reading from. If you're not with them, they destroy you. Crist is history now and Miss California would be if it weren't for the fact the healthy male populace is squarely in her corner and would like to be even closer. Issywise says, "Who cares if any politician is gay?" A lot of people; that's why homosexuals in public life -- actors and politicians come to mind -- try to hide it. Barney Frank is the exception that proves the rule and additionally is a good argument against electing a homosexual to any office.
Banjo:
You are living in the past. Forty years ago, we arrested Gays for being Gay. That's why they concealed themselves. We don't do that anymore. They grow less fearful of your hate everyday.
As you point out, the congressman chairing the House Financial Services Committee--the committee that oversees banks and housing: the two most important economic sectors in America today, has been "out of the closet" for 22 years. Twenty two years, Banjo!
You been asleep? State after state confronted with the contradiction between discriminating against gays and equal protection are coming around to support the founding American value of equality.
Charlie Crist is by far the most popular politician in Florida. The betting is that he wins in a walk for either for a senate seat or to stay as governor in two years--it is his choice. He is far more popular than Jeb Bush or his prospective right wing challenger for the senate seat. Read up on it. Do more than just assume bad thing should and will happen to people you think are Gay. It is a hateful worldview you are showing.
His Gayness or non-Gayness is absolutely irrelevant. That creates a trap for any opponent who tries to exploit the issue: They have to reveal their own hateful values to exploit what they regard as a disadvantage.
Miss California is toast. She's a fraud, whose hypocrisy is apparent to all. She lied to enter a contract with written terms that precluded someone of her naked self showing"values" from entering. She has phony boobs, paid for by the very competition she lied to. She was flashing her naked self around, even before she was legally of age. Why do you think she's worth defending? Only because she advocates discrimination against those whom you hate.
The truth is, Banjo, that homosexuality only mattered because people full of hate toward homosexuals insisted it had to matter. Homosexuality has always there. Many great figures in history were homosexuals. Today, homosexuals are just as American as you and just as entitled to the protections of our laws. All that stands between them realizing the promise of equality in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution is your hateful attitude which is palpably loosing its potency.
Unfortunately for your little world, the vast majority of people sitting on the sidelines on this issue are increasingly stepping in to vindicate equal protection and to repudiate your hatefulness.
Move to Iran. The governors there share your attitudes.
You said "homosexual vigilantes." Seriously. You may not believe it, but you totally did. Look back through that post. There it is. "Homosexual vigilantes." You may want to fix that if you ever want any measure of credibility ever again.
If anyone wants to come out its up to that person. Larry Craig did this to himself by getting caught in a public restroom. Isn't anyone allowed to stay in the closet without reporters vacuuming them out. This type of journalist does merit any publicatioin except going toe to toe with the rags papers. In plain English, it's none of your business.
Self-loathing is the new black.
I don't really care who gets to marry who. Outside of the tax benefits, the relative absence of the threat of STDs and the dual income status, these days I don't see why anyone wants to get married anyway. (Damn, maybe I just listed some compelling reasons FOR marriage.)
Actually, I'm ALL for the article written on this site the other day referencing everyone marrying everyone...Two wives...Yippie!
Now, having said that...kind of jokingly....I have to say that the comparison that Gays/Lesbians make between their struggle and anything remotely resembling the Civil Rights struggles of Blacks in this country....is lost on me.
No one knows you're gay until you tell them. Everyone knew my Elders were black just as soon as they showed up for the job interview, tried to get a loan or better yet, just left the damn house. Hell, somehow, even the dogs knew.
Again, I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't have any issues whatsoever with same sex folks trying to get married. I myself would absolutely love to live next door to a nice Lesbian couple...Just jokes...but some of the rhetoric just makes me chuckle....
Slim-
Civil rights
Are civil rights.
You either believe
They get distributed
Equally
Or you don't.
Black
Gay or
Otherwise.
I don't get it. Why is it hypocrisy to vote against those 3 issues if he's gay himself? Maybe he genuinely thinks marriage is a hetero issue, worries about childrens' upbringing in gay environments and thinks hate crime laws are open to easy judicial abuse? Does anyone know his mind? This just makes gays look like catty blackmailers frankly.
Full disclosure: straight but non judgmental.
ONE THING & ONE THING ONLY SCARES ME ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING. "WEATHER IT IS TRUE OR NOT, HIS CAREER IS OVER" WHAT SCARES ME IS THAT NOW THE FILTHY REPUBLICAN OPERATIVES HAVE BEEN TAUGHT A LESSON, JUST ACCUSE, MAKE A MOVIE & BANK YOU HAVE JUST DESTROYED A HUMAN BEING. NOT SURE HOW TO STOP THIS SORT OF THING BUT KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED SOMEWAY BEFORE THE KARL ROVES OF THE WORLD GRAB THIS WITH BOTH HANDS.
"Weather"?
Behold the fury of unnecessary CAPS LOCK!
Whatever happened to: don't get caught with a live man or a dead girl? Or was that: with a dead man or a live girl? George Patton
I saw "Outrage" at the Tribeca film festival. Overall, a superb film. I only saw one flaw.
The documentary 'outs' for the right reasons. One's sexual orientation should be irrelevant, unless that politician does things to harm gays that are not closeted. That sort of hypocrisy should be exposed.
What the film says about former NY mayor Ed Koch is shocking in a different way. Many people already knew (or had a pretty good idea) about Koch's sexual orientation. I think very few had any idea what he allegedly did to an ex-partner to keep that identity a secret. This movie makes Koch look fairly evil.
My one quibble, and I had the chance to ask this of the director at the festival Q&A, why out Sheperd Smith (the only non-politician singled out)? Especially, since he states that this film only seeks to expose people who are actively doing harm to the gay community. His answer: because the network generally has a horrible record on gay issues.
Smith is not an anti-gay crusader, as far as I know. He is a news reader. I did not think the answer was fair.
However, overall, this is a very important film. Well worth checking out.
"She was flashing her naked self around, even before she was legally of age." -- Issywise.
Golly, you sound like a Puritan with buckles on your shoes. But you're onlyy just a garden variety hypocrite with a passion for contract law if it can be used to ruin another person. My guess is you've seen plenty of bare flesh in the bath houses and let's not get into what goes on behind the bushes in the public parks. You may fantasize that Crist still has a political future, but it's the crack pipe talking. He's done.
Banjo,
I found a big bathhouse for Homo Trolls. It's called Free Repubic (sp intended). Why don't you head over there for a while? You can talk about bathhouses and what goes on behind bushes in public parks -- some of your favorite topics.
You'll be given a nice clean towel when you enter. Please just drop it in the laundry bin before you leave.
Hope you have fun. Maybe you'll like it so much, you'll just stay - forever.
Baaanjo-
Would you
Come out
Already?
How much of this
Can anyone
Take?
"Puritan"? That's rich coming from someone who is for Abstinence Only education.
Thank you.
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