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Abbas Comes to Washington

Mahmoud Abbas Kevin Lamarque / Reuters Thursday's Obama-Abbas White House summit presented the United States with a quandary: what to do with a potential peace partner whose only asset is that he's breathing.

Mahmoud Abbas’ White House drop-by looked quite different from that of Bibi Netanyahu the week before last. No senators or representatives were shoving each other to stand next to him and smile while the cameras rolled; no rubber-chicken dinners where thousands of supporters fight to outdo each other in their praise for his strength, wisdom, and good looks. The dude would have been lucky to find someone willing to pick up the check for a falafel and Coke in the Members’ cafeteria.

The Bush administration left Palestinian-Israeli peace negotiations in the same state it left Iraq, Afghanistan, the U.S. Constitution, and the GOP; that is, with a prayer, but not much else.

Abbas came to Washington a wounded man many times over. He could not prevent the January 2006 victory of Hamas in democratic elections—elections the U.S. sought to undermine on his behalf. He could not stop the Hamas takeover of Gaza in June 2007 and, indeed, was barely able to prevent a Palestinian civil war; could not stop Israel’s expansion of settlements on the West Bank; could not halt Israel’s invasion of Lebanon in July 2006 or of Gaza late last year; and could not, most crucially of all, convince Palestinians that anything substantial is likely to improve anytime soon.

Just about all Abbas and Fatah have managed to do during the past eight years is survive, which given the neighborhood is no mean feat. He has done this by providing a conduit for funds from the European Union and parts of the Arab world to be distributed to the various sectors of Palestinian society that have the power and influence to demand it. He has not done it by using the money to invest in the long-term infrastructure of a future Palestinian state, which, truth be told, makes a kind of sense, given the Israeli penchant for blowing up such structures when they believe it suits their strategic purposes, and often when it doesn’t.

Abbas’ strengths and weaknesses are one and the same. While no one—not even its metaphorical mother—loves Fatah, many people hate and fear Hamas. Abbas’ primary power is that even though he can’t deliver the Palestinians to the Israelis or the Israelis to the Palestinians, should he die, or give up, he would leave the two of them to each other. That’s another formula for a war without end, and indeed, without reason, and nobody wants it.

The Bush administration left the state of Palestinian-Israeli peace negotiations in pretty much the same state it left Iraq, Afghanistan, New Orleans, the U.S. Constitution, and the Republican Party; that is, with a prayer, perhaps, but not much else. And yet the region has become more, not less, important for its malign neglect.

As Hussein Agha and Robert Malley argue in the current New York Review of Books: “Establishing a [Palestinian] state has become a matter of utmost priority for Europeans, who see it as crucial to stabilizing the region and curbing the growth of extremism; for Americans, who hail it as a centerpiece in efforts to contain Iran as well as radical Islamists and to forge a coalition between so-called moderate Arab states and Israel; and even for a large number of Israelis, who have come to believe it is the sole effective answer to the threat to Israel’s existence posed by Arab demographics.”

The problem is that nobody is willing to take any steps necessary to put the Palestinians and Israelis on track to giving either side any confidence in the other. Obama has moved quickly to demonstrate to the Arab world that he plans to put U.S. policy in the region on a radically different path than that pursued by the Bush administration. He gave his first interview as president to an Arab television network. He invited Jordan’s King Abdullah to visit the White House before anyone else. He is going to Egypt in early June without the (usually) requisite stopover in Israel. And when Netanyahu came a-courting without any concessions on settlement building or jump-starting negotiations, Obama refused to paper over their differences and pretend that everything between the two governments was kosher.

Instead, standing next to the Israeli prime minister, he talked tough: “Settlements have to be stopped in order for us to move forward.” Hillary Clinton, considered Israel’s best ally in the administration, sang from the same prayer book the following day: “We want to see a stop to settlement construction, additions, natural growth—any kind of settlement activity. That is what the president has called for.”

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May 28, 2009 | 6:29am
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drmarkklein

Netanyahu has simply recognized the obvious the Palestinians have no intention of living side by side with Israel in peace.

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9:36 am, May 28, 2009

squiggy

yep, that's the bottom line, Abbas keeps breathing in hopes someone will save him from obscurity, let him keep his position handing out money from other countries, what a worthless existence.

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11:58 am, May 28, 2009

logicwhore

Big money, stolen land, some rock mosque jazz, strategic positioning by the US via Israel, a bunch of dead Palestinians kicked out of there home, no intention for peace at all as far as Israel is concerned, Obama trying to play Jimmy Carter, Israel hoarding nukes while damning those Iranians for having some good ole yellow cake, an American military stretched thinner than the curse in that Tom Holland and Stephen King movie....add all that up and what do you get? a pretty bumper sticker that reads "We're Fucked"

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7:06 pm, May 28, 2009

Johnnorth

As for refusal to make peace, it was Yassir Arafat who tore up the best deal ever and set back peace for a decade, maybe longer. And while all the Arab schools preach hatred and invente lies of the Goebels scale, talk of peace is manifestation of the their appalling hypocrisy.

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12:28 pm, May 28, 2009

drmarkklein

I lived in Jerusalem in the mid-1970s before Likud under Begin came to power. There were no settlements and Israelis and Palestinians were free to travel anywhere in Israel proper, the West Bank and Gaza.

The Labor government back then begged the Palestinians to take most of the West Bank and Gaza for a state with minor border adjustments for security and a limited military presence in the Jordan Valley to protect from threats from the east. Wanting the whole pie as usual the Palestinians rejected the offer.

The world is tired of the Palestinians. They cannot be satisfied absent Israel committing national suicide. Makes no difference what Obama and Clinton say Israel will do what it has to do to ensure its security.

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1:05 pm, May 28, 2009

SlaveRevolt

"Wanting the whole pie as usual the Palestinians rejected the offer."

That's because the whole pie rightfully DOES belong to them. They were the ones forced off of their land at gunpoint. They are the ones who get to live in refugee tent cities and squalid shantytowns while the Israelis get their land. The Zionists offer them the scraps they don't want like the West Bank and Gaza Strip and you become indignant that they don't accept it? Israel is living where it lives because of ethnic cleansing. Palestinians deserve their right of return.


"The world is tired of the Palestinians."

I think you have that backwards. The world is and has long been tired of Israel. The vast majority of people in every country in the world except the U.S. and Israel itself sympathize with the Palestinians and deplore Israel. And with good reason.

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7:33 pm, May 28, 2009

logicwhore

Not to mention the enormous amount of balls it must take to condemn a people for nukes only to hoard and hide 'em yourself

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8:17 pm, May 28, 2009

DMLauffer

so why would we condemn israel for being tough about peace talks when we know damn well the palastinians are not interested in any peace talks. It is not my opinion that the whole pie belongs to the palastinians. If you do some extensive research you will find that both have a legit claim to the land. In my opinion the israeli's claim is more legit because of their efforts for peace while the palastinians always respond with terrorism.

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9:48 pm, May 28, 2009

SlaveRevolt

DMLauffer:

Who was a tiny remnant, a small minority among a sea of Palestinian muslims up until the mass immigration beginning immediately after World War II? That would be the Zionists. When one side ends up forcing the other out of its homes at the muzzle of a gun and settles on its land, herding them as refugees into the scraps of land the Zionists don't want, then progressively over the years usurps more and more of THAT even, they don't have the same legitimacy as the victims of their ethnic cleansing. It's called the Palestinian right of return for a reason. Otherwise it would be called their "right of migration" or something.

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10:05 pm, May 28, 2009

SlaveRevolt

DMLauffer:

"while the palastinians always respond with terrorism."

Why is it then that the Zionists before they were given Palestine to colonize had Zionist terrorist organizations? Ever heard of the Irgun? Maybe the King David Hotel bombing?

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10:08 pm, May 28, 2009

SlaveRevolt

Ask the White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel's dad about the Irgun. He'd be able to tell you about it since he was a member of it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7702408.stm

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10:23 pm, May 28, 2009

TRIATHLON

KOREA SEALED IRANS FATE!

Now Eric Alterman is a professor of English and journalism at Brooklyn College and a professor of journalism at CUNY Graduate School of Journalism. He is the author, most recently, of Why We're Liberals: A Handbook for Restoring America's Important Ideals and a columnist on Jewish issues for Moment magazine.

This is all peachy keen, but Eric, still doesn't get it, with the Hermit Kingdom having detonated a (20KT) Twenty-Kilotonne Nuclear Device, the world changed. BiBi, had it in his mind to preemptively Nuclear Attack the Shi-ite Persian Republic of Iran, and now that it is clear no one could stop The Hermit King from joining the Nuclear Club by kicking in the door, BiBi, will never ever let Iran get that far. Before (Jan. 1st, 2010), the attack will have taken place, and it is the job of Non-Jewish Israeli, around the world to SELL IT! The Magic Negro, The Media Messiah Imperial President can flap his lips all he wants this is a done deal now, and he will just fall in line and provide military and political support for its SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP ALLY PERIOD!



BOXED IN!

Obama is a winner. (HE IS NOT A LEADER), nor is he a creative thinker (TRY PUPPET). The world is leaderless (NOT THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION).The first? Afghanistan? (PRC) The Peoples Republic of China? Iran? Iraq? The Peoples Republic Korea? Mexico? Pakistan, Russian Federation? Venezuela, we may need a Plan B, (WE NEED A PLAN S), Shut up unless your are willing, able and prepared to back it up.

The Magic Negro! The Media Messiah Imperial President! All talk, and no clue what action has to be taken, nor idea once the action is begun what are the chances that the out come will be the desired one. BiBi and The Great Western Leader have talked themselves into a Box, in which they have NO Leverage and no way out. Both the Eastern and Western part of the (AIE) American Israeli Empire have let their alligator mouths over-load their humming-bird ass. Both have set a time frame for preemptive nuclear action against the Shi-ite Persian Republic of Iran, a time table of the introduction of troops into (Af-PaK), a time table to place missiles along the boarder of the Russian Federation, and that time table is within the next (180) One-hundred and eight days.

Now, the Magic Negro, had better be able to pull a rabbit out of his hat, this is now getting to be crunch time, put up or shut up. The Media Messiah Imperial President has talked himself and the creditability of the (AIE) American Israel Empire into a position of you have talked the talk now walk the walk.
LOGIC WHORE: we are all bystanders...witnesses to history and none of us will do anything but leave a comment on the annals of time. Americans suck at living up to the constitution....period.

TRIATHLON: Yes! We are all bystanders, and so much for "Yes We Can" it has become "No We Can't and No They Won't" The (They) being the (544) The Imperial Court, won't do a thing, and hasn't done a think, not full filled, or lived up to any promise, pledge, or even there oaths, you better hope we have a history left that someone will be able to read let alone understand. The (AIE) American Israeli Empire thru The Constitution of the United States of America away along time ago, its Wall St., Washington, D. C. Lobbyist, the (AIPAC/AZC) American Israel Public Affairs Committee/American Zionist Council, a (100K) One-hundred membership neo-conservative Jewish lobbyists group, connected to various caucus members of influential members of the Empire's pro-Israel lawmakers the (544) Imperial Court. The (2) Two Mossad Agents David Alexrod, and Rahm Emanuel handing the Magic Negro, BiBi running our national agenda.

LOGIC WHORE: .....truth is since Israel started we have been in this exact same position,

TRIATHLON; No, now were is a critical position, Israel has Nuclear Weapons they have their mind made up that by years end they will preemptively Nuclear Attack, the Shi-ite Persian Republic of Iran, either the Western Part of the Empire will be co-partners in the attack or its their position in Israel that it will be forced to provide both political and military cover and protection for its actions.

The clock is ticking and we are fast running out of time, if your so smart, you come up with a plan of action to stop these nuts. The Infra-structure is shot, the economy is shot, the conventional military structures are shot, were left with a nuclear option or go home, and we have less than (180) One-hundred-eighty days to come up with answers.

Our Chestnuts are in the fire now what? You got an answer let hear it!

My answer is the (UN) United Nations, we may not like it but it's the only door that is open as an exit from were we are now. Admit we can't stay in the Islamic Crescent, Admit we don't need to put missiles along under-belly of The Russian Federation, Admit we can't engage our forces into (Af-Pac), Admit we are no longer THE SUPER POWER, Admit The United States of America no longer exists, and that Israel is the brains and this country its military stick, Admit all our short-comings, and then just admit we take the military options off the table, we can't support that option any longer.

Our bluff has been called, your either going to put it all in the pot or fold!

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5:39 pm, May 28, 2009

SlaveRevolt

Abbas represents exactly nobody. Why is Obama meeting with the guy whose party got crushed in the Palestinian elections? Will he next meet with that lady who lost to Nicolas Sarkozy in France? Maybe then meet with the head of Britain's Conservative party since they're not in power either? America lives in a fantasy world and Obama is catering to the delusional by meeting with the puppet of Israel Mahmoud Abbas instead of Ismael Haniyeh from Hamas, the guys who actually WON the effing election.

This is just one more thing that shows Obama for what he is: Just window dressing for continuation of more of the same Cheneyite b.s. His administration is taking exactly the same stance as Cheney's, that America thinks democracy means seeing the side win that they want to see win and any other outcome should be ignored. Grow the hell up Obama. And America.

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7:39 pm, May 28, 2009

Kingyahoo

Slave Revolt, I partly agree with you. After all, Hamas won the election. The Palestinian people had spoken. It was not good enough for Bush, who wanted to spread and to bring democracy to Irak.However, I disagree with you about President Obama.

Obama is a brilliant man and certainly not weak. I can almost write a book on his personality (sorry if I am bragging!!!). He has balls, but he has to do the odd tap dancing routine because he is dealing with idiots in the House and the Senate, not to mention the media. Look how he did not kicked Joseph Lieberman out of his chairmanship position, for that matter out of the Democratic party. Jewish lobby kept him and now Joe has become a mute pussycat.

Obama is the first American president to tell Israel, in public, to clean up its act and if anyone can teach Israel to stop behaving like a spoilt child, it is going to be Obama. I have often wandered what Americans would do if they were to change places with the Palestinians. How would they feel if their house and land were occupied and were told to cool it.when Obama is almost safe iwith Americans. He has to watch his back with Israel. (I can also write a chapter on the Mosad).

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11:17 am, May 29, 2009

Kingyahoo

I watched the brief meeting and press conference of Presidents Obama and Abbas on CNN. I am puzzled by one issue. It is that I keep hearing and flashing on CNN: "We are a stalwart ally of Israel." very nice. However, I am curious and need to ask why?

I know Jewish-Americans are a small minority, but very powerful. They have money and they control a large portion of the media. I cannot understand why at every presidential election Domocratic and Republican candidates have to reassure the Jewish community with hat in hand. I cannot understand why United Nations' sanctions against Israel are always vetoed by the Americans. How does America expect North Korea and Iran to abide by United nations' decisions and sanctions? I am baffled why the media and the American people do not ask these questions. Right now there at least one spy locked up. He was spying for Israel. Stalwart allies do not spy on each other, or do they?

President Obama's problems will come from israel and the Mossad

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1:58 am, May 29, 2009

seelly

@SlaveRevolt

"The world is and has long been tired of Israel. The vast majority of people in every country in the world except the U.S. and Israel itself ..."

I'd bet you that the US is pretty tired of Israel also. But the Israeli lobby is pretty ferocious - Percy, Fullbright ... Even President Carter's been called anti-semitic.

Americans are uninformed about the monstrous nature of the Israeli occupation. Listen to the media, they never mention the atrocities committed by the occupiers and instead blame the victims. Journalists are scared, they'll be out of a job.

Israel defies international laws and UN human rights charter every day.

French saying: "Cent ans pour le voleur, mais un jour pour le maitre".(Hundred years for the thief, but one day for the master).

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3:01 am, May 29, 2009

maxa12

"The problem is that nobody is willing to take any steps necessary to put the Palestinians and Israelis on track to giving either side any confidence in the other. Obama has moved quickly to demonstrate to the Arab world that he plans to put U.S. policy in the region on a radically different path than that pursued by the Bush administration. He gave his first interview as president to an Arab television network. He invited Jordan's King Abdullah to visit the White House before anyone else. He is going to Egypt in early June without the (usually) requisite stopover in Israel. And when Netanyahu came a-courting without any concessions on settlement building or jump-starting negotiations, Obama refused to paper over their differences and pretend that everything between the two governments was kosher."

Such gestural rhetoric seems grating after one reads a bit of it. How would one "put the Palestinians and Israelis on track to giving either side any confidence in the other"? Should Hamas recognize the legitimacy of Palestinian dispossession? Renounce the armed struggle that is its sovereign right? Pretend that it hasn't offered the multi-decade hudna (truce) it has repeatedly offered? Idon'tthinksobutEricdoes.

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