Well, conservative in the modern traditional sense. Which means abortion is the most important thing in the world and she doesn't know what any other issues are. That's what I gather from the show.

Bitch, like crooked, is apolitical.

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Way shallow. And NOT fair to "her asian [sic] dude." (And if only a good f**k and a cheeseburger could really be THE answer to a train wreck marriage.)
I don't know these two people. I'm guessing that you don't either. So my "take" on this is as valid as yours. And here it is...
Kate's behavior--in FRONT of cameras--is obnoxious, derisive and dictatorial. I can't imagine how she behaves when the cameras aren't running.
Her husband seems as passive as she is aggressive; as laid-back/hands-off as she is over-controlling. Bad combo--especially when you've got eight (and who's choice was that?) small children to corral.
You could be right...they might both need a good and glorious roll in the hay. But trust me, at this point their mutual disdain for each other wouldn't even buy them the 6-45 seconds of cheap "release" you allude to in your response.
I'm a woman (and one with a strong feminist bent), but here's what I've observed in this situation: Kate's a bully. That doesn't mean that Jon deserves a free pass for adultery. But let's be fair here. And let's not feign surprise when a bully--be it male or female--drives away the person who once loved him/her.

And it sounds like you're 45 sec conversation and a nice long nap. Hopefully you'll be gone when we wake up! (LOL)

Oh good grief. The simple fact that you chose *this* forum to air out your ill-advised grievances of *evil* Republicans shows just how hypocritical you are. You, Mr./Ms. Democrat, are the mean one.

Gee, I would have thought fer shur that she's a liberal. She's uninformed and proud of it, short attention span, everything is always everyone else's fault, and -- most importantly -- she wants everything for FREE without having to work for it!

Like I said above, Bitch, like Crooked, is apolitical. Quit trying to make it otherwise. We're polarized enough already, we don't need to be flat stupid about it.

I was thinking about some of what you write. She did give birth to all those healthy children. She does look healthy herself but seems to rain on everybody else's parade. It appears she has a to-do list, first on the list: "do as I say". The gum scene was downright sadistic towards the little boy, so was the marker scene where the little girl cries because she is not allowed to use markers. Same with the grass scene, heaven help that the kids get their clothes soiled.
No child psychologist will side with Kate. She has no clue about the extraordinary life around her, so she supresses it. As she said outside the supermaket, she "doesn't notice people around" her.

actually, what is actually going on is usually called 'abuse'. she abuses her husband plain and simple. public humiliation is never justified. they are not 'equally bad'. it was her fault. if it was a controlling husband berating his wife publicly there would be no question in your mind.

I sort of agree with you with the naming the dogs, threatening to throw away the bear, marker incident, garage incident.. sorry, have to take it back cause I realize I sort of agree with everyone else!

Yes, that was painful to watch. Absolutely painful.

I agree. Kate was sadistic when she was telling her Son she was throwing away his most precious item of comfort and he was crying so hard and she just said it again. Sadly, this woman does not really care about her children.
In the clips, she gets worse and worse as time goes on. In the final clip, when they're in their "mcmansion", she is HORRIBLE! She appears to think that getting FREE solar panels is no big deal! I guess it isn't since she and her family have been getting EVERYTHING that they showcase on their show forFREE. I hope her children can get some people in their lives who really love them. Obviously, her family wants nothing to do with her and that is so understandable now. Jon's family may have nothing to do with them for exactly the same reason - he has a cold-hearted, mean-spirited woman for a wife. Jon is not perfect but you can tell he's kind and loving to his children; the kids ALWAYS, ALWAYS go to Jon for comfort.
Kate is a nasty woman who will someday be all alone, once the kids are old enough to move out. Jon needs to give up the big money and get away from Kate and get complete custody of the children. I'm certain they would choose Jon over Kate.
I used to watch this show every single week but NO MORE; she turns my stomach!

Kate is pure evil and I have no doubt she enjoys torturing her kids. What a monster.

Thank you. The narrative the media seems to be spinning is that she is the reason for all their problems. I have not seen much commentary on how inappropriate it is for a man with 8 small children to go bar hopping so often or going on vactation with his mistress on his wife's birthday. Both of these people are in the wrong, no doubt, but why is the media only targeting Kate?

Am not denying that they have problems together and have only themselves to blame. The incidents that really bugged me were the dog naming, marker using, bear throwing out and garage incident. I think she is completely wack in these cases. She doesn't need her husband there to show it, either.

The yelling across the store, so what. The discussion with the contractor at the end, BFD - he's a grown up. Adults should stand up for themselves, as should Jon, but these poor kids. They get to be humiliated, reprimanded and basically are not allowed to express themselves.