Are you kidding? She would have gone on Meredith Viera's show and bloviated about the vast right-wing conspiracy Letterman belongs to. One thing that any Clinton lover or hater has to admit is that the Clintons both seemed like good parents. She would NOT have let this go unchallenged.

Actually we already know how Hillary Clinton would have handled a situation where someone insulted herself and her daughter in front of a national audience. Google for John McCain's joke about Chelsea Clinton being the daughter of Janet Reno. Clinton did not respond by milking the situation for the sake of publicity.

I disagree. The media is treating Palin the way it did Hillary and Bill in the 90's - like dishonest, cartoonish rubes. Hillary fought back at times, not that the media gave her protests any credence. The media either ignored the attacks on the Clintons (charges from people like Rush, Bob Novak and even some Congressmen that they murdered their friend Vince Foster for one) or joined in and promoted the smears (Whitewater was completely fabricated and sold to the media by right wing Clinton haters).

The media conveniently forgets its own part in the attempted destruction of all things Clinton, although it was again evident for anyone who paid attention during the primaries. Chris Matthews and Tucker Carlson both talked explicitly about Hillary as being castrating, for example with no push back from their peers.

I do not fault any parent for angrily defending their child against smarmy attacks. Letterman would do the same for his child. Unfortunately our media always defends its own unless they make racist remarks a la Imus. (Sexism is perfectly acceptable.) It is time the public stop being taken in by this a starts holding the media to the same standard they use for the rest of us. It is fine to criticize Palin on her policy positions, but she also deserves credit for what she has done right (the crucial trans Canadian gas pipeline agreement for one) and should not be held up to ridicule just because she does not come from a cool place.

Bernie-
Just the opposite.
I think Sarah Palin does come
From a cool place.
It's the Trans-Canadian pipeline deal
That I think is a mess.

If we get the astrpturfers arguing policy -- like the pipeline deal -- then we've got them right where we want them. Gov. Palin is smart to allow healthy free market competition determine the outcome of this project. Under AGIA, five companies were allowed to bid and only Trans-Canada qualified. Under law, TransCanada is entitled to the state's exclusive endorsement, plus up to $500 million in state subsidies and regulatory preference and streamlining, in exchange for adhering to a series of state commitments.

The deal announced this weekend with Exxon signing on is a significant development. Another company formed by BP and ConocoPhillips is also pursuing a separate deal outside AGIA. The White House wants a piece of the action. All of this dismisses the claims of opponents to this project, competing Alaskan Republicans who still voted for this legislation, that the market is not there for natural gas. If that were the case, there wouldn't be such a clamoring from so many parties to secure a deal.

All you guys have it wrong. It was the "slutty flight attendent" comment that got under her skin. Remember, she was a beauty queen!

Manhattan.

The reason Tina could not sit down over lunch with Palin is that Palin is not
serious...she really doesn't offer anything to the conversation but her angry
right wing platitudes...no new thoughts..and quite honestly, she's just not interesting...Hillary is a serious person, whether you agree with her politics or not. This country has made a decision that it is ready for big thinkers...who have intentions of improving this country both at home and abroad....and if you ask me after such a brief interlude of a new administration, it is not perfect,( but who is?) but their intellectual capacities are being put to their very highest and best use. I am thankful. I think Tina is being kind and giving Palin more credit than she deserves (just in case)...I don't think, no matter how hard she cracks the books, or takes elocution lessons, (although both would help her cause alot) that she will ever ever be up to the task she aspires to.

Are you serious? That is completely irrelevant. If being concerned with more important issues instead of relaxed conversations and dining with a politician that we don't know personally makes someone an 'elitist', than so be it. They are elected government officials, not potential blind dates.

Tina's talent was in looking very good. Regrettably when she opened her mouth she sounded like a beauty pageant contestant. Chelsea Clinton was attacked and belittled in the press, Amy Carter was belittled in the press, and Gerald Ford's kids weren't treated too kindly either, Neither were Nixon's or Johnson's. The last kids not to have a rough time belonged to Kennedy.

I, too, do not think that anyone can assume that Hillary would have won. I have never been Clinton supporters, but two things impressed me during the campaign. Clinton exhibited an impressive body of knowledge, and I had to grudgingly admire her tenacity at the end of the race. Her change of tone since becoming Secretary of State is also a pleasant surprise. Unlike Ferrero or Palin, she has proved to be a woman of cognitive substance and political acumen.

She WOULD have won.

Sorry, say what you will about the lady's policies, but they don't make 'em much tougher. The Clinton Machine is formidable.

And after Bush, no Republican was going to win, not up against a Democrat even half-alive.

If Obama were anything less then the best campaigner this generation has yet produced, we'd have our first woman president right now. It's not a stretch.

I have to disagree. A democrat was going to win regardless who it was.

And its kind of a given that had Hillary been the nominee, McCain would of never chosen Palin to begin with. So that gives us the scenario, how would his campaign turn out had he had, say, Mitt Romney, for a vice president? Much different.

ARE YOU SERIOUS? HILLARY JUST BARELY BEAT OBAMA. PALIN WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT SHE DOES BEST. LOOK FOR SOME 10 YR OLD DINNER HILLARY HAD WITH A MIDDLE-EASTERN AND D3ECLARE HER A TERRORIST. AND ALL OF YOU DITTO-HEADS WOULD OF WENT ALL ALONG WITH IT. BUT YOU SEE, THIS COUNTRY FOR THE MOST PART HAS A BRAIN AND DONT FALL FOR THAT CRAP. PALIN MAY BE DINGY AND SOME WOULD SAY AN INCH SHY FROM VEGETABLE STATE, BUT SHE'S SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT SHE CAN TELL U HILLARY WAS ONCE A MAN AND YOU'LL BE RIGHT THERE ROARING AND CHEERING SUPPORTING THAT SH*T. LOOK HOW SHE HAD ALL OF YOU GOING WITH JOE THE PLUMBER. A GOVERNOR RUNNING FOR THE HIGHEST OFFICE SPENT HER CAMPAIGN QUOTING THE WORDS OF A MAN WHO HAD COLLECTION NOTICES, 3 YEARS BACK TAXES AND WAS NEVER A PLUMBER. BUT "JOE THE PLUMBER SAYS BARACK OBAMA IS A MARXIST"... OH YEA THATS WHO I WANT RUNNING MY COUNTRY. SOMEONE WHO RELIES ON A MAKE BELIEVE PLUMBER WHO FEELS HE SHOULDNT HAVE TO PAY TAXES FOR BEING SUCCESSFUL. LOL SUCCESSFUL LOSER.

I CAN SEE YOUR POINT. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PRIVELAGE AND A TOUGH RESPONSIBILITY TO FLY 7,000 MILES TO BE A GUEST SPEAKER AT THE FIRST FOUNDER'S DAY EVENT TO DISCUSS THE DEFINITION OF FOUNDER'S DAY AND TO CELEBRATE THE FIFTIETH ANNIVERSARY OF ALAKSA'S STATEHOOD. THEN OFF TO NYC TO HANG OUT IN CENTRAL PARK.
AS FOR THE EXXON/TRANSCANADA PROJECT, YOU GOTTA BE OFF YOUR ROCKER IF YOU THINK ALL THE UNION DELGATES INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 800-1700 MILE PIPELINE GIVE ONE RATS ASS ABOUT LETTERMAN'S JOKE AND HER KOCKED UP 18 YR OLD. JESUS CHRIST YOU PEOPLE FROM THE RIGHT THINK EVERYONE GIVES A SH*T! THAT PROJECT WOULD HAVE BEEN HALFWAY FINISHED BY NOW IF IT WASN'T FOR YOUR DRAMA QUEEN INTERRUPTING THE FINAL NEGOTIATIONS COMPLAINING THAT THE FORMER GOVERNOR HAD SOMETHING UP HIS SLEEVE. LOL THE SAME WAY JOE THE PLUMBER CAME OUT OF SOMEONE'S SLEEVE NEED I NOT MENTION NAMES.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF THIS DEAL GOES THROUGH, IT WAS BECAUSE ALL THE DEMOCRATS AND ONLY 12 REPUBLICANS VOTED TO ISSUE ALASKA'S GAS LINE LICENSE TO TRANSCANDA. THAT WOMAN IS SUCH AN INGRATE. THE HEADACHES AND ULCERS SHE CAUSES AND THE DEMOCRATS LOOKING OUT FOR HER. WE'RE JUST TOO GOOD A PEOPLE.

Sec. of State is five down from the top, Gramps... Biden, Pelosi, Byrd (Pro Tempore of the Senate) and then Hillary. She is the third woman to hold this position after Albright and Rice.

here here! I admire her willingness to do this job and not be threatened by anyone. She chosen brilliant special ambassadors and quietly goes about
doing her job...She's amazing and I am inspired by her...In fact, I didn't vote for
her and I now have greater appreciation for her...I'm sure I will support her if
she runs in 2016. I hope she will.

Oh possum.....yesm Sec. of State is five down - in terms of the order of succession.... but that's clearly not what RVGrandpa. Sec. of State is charged as the highest ranking official representing the U.S. to foreign states...that's the salient job description of the position. Do you choose to embrace S.P.'s intellectual dishonestly or are you just unable to see through to the actual meaning of a statement within the context of the conversation?

You're the one who's being "intellectually dishonest" if you want to redefine rank. I guess when self-esteem takes precedence over geography, civics, US history, math and science, how the government is supposed to work doesn't matter anymore.

Wrong. She does not represent the President.

She represents the United States.

"Gramps" was directly addressing "RVGrandpa." C-in as you had zilch to add to the convo, let's call it an AB and U can C your way out. Payce!

Chelsea Clinton's father
Was reputed to be Janet Reno
During the Clinton Presidency.

The two situations are not comparable as the Clintons kept Chelsea out of the public. Palin, on the other hand, paraded her daughter around so right wingers could cheer about how she "did the right thing" (had the baby) and intended to marry the father (we know how that ended up). You can't have it both ways, like a celebrity that parades in front of the camera when it suits them and when it doesn't wants privacy. Keep your family business private and don't respond everytime someone makes a stupid comment and not only will you be left alone more often but mainstream America will hold you in higher regard.

I missed when Chelsea Clinton solicited sex from a dirtbag Democratic party governor or was raped by a celebrity baseball player in a supposed joke. David Letterman was projecting his own twisted fantasies onto a young woman over half his age.

All politicians introduce their children when they campaign. Sasha and Malia were omnipresent on the campaign trail, on the cover of US Weekly, onstage with their parents. If you think the Palin children somehow deserve any of this because Bristol had a child out of wedlock, I'll remind you that no one called Obama's mother anything, but they celebrated her strength for having him and raising him and doing it with the help of her family. His own daughters, if they were "punished with a baby", would be spared the humiliation Bristol Palin has endured, because Sasha and Malia would be hustled off to an abortionist and the fetus would be vacuumed out. Obama already said so.

That happened to Chelsea. I thought it was terrible at the time. Don't you remember? Amy Carter and the Bush girls were also the butt of jokes. And going back even farther, there was a comedy album about the Kennedy family in the White House too. I don't think anyone's kids are off limits and that is too bad. And in case you don't know, Chelsea, Amy and the Kennedy kids fall into the liberal camp. This goes both ways.

And one more thing, there was that famous joke made by John McCain, which I believe is on video which went along the lines of "Why is Chelsea so ugly (yes, he was referring to then President Clinton's daughter), because Janet Reno is her father." This stuff is unkind and it cuts both ways. I remember lots and lots of unkind remarks by comics and others about Chelsea being unattractive.

Letterman's remarks could be considered tame as well as stale compared to SNL, Conan and Leno during the campaign. The difference is that campaign advisers prevented Palin from engaging in a low class hillbilly feud with comics. Palin exploited her own children to advance her political ambitions. She's the one dragging a 14 year old threw the mud. She lobbied hard for the VP nomination with total disregard for her pregnant daughter or her 4 month old Down's Syndrome infant.

....And, some Republican Party official in South Carolina just made a remark about an escaped zoo gorilla being an "ancestor of Michelle's". Ugliness on both sides. Although, I'm sure those on the right will wonder why those on the left can't take a joke. I wonder if Michelle will issue statements and go around on the news circuit to attack this guy. Doubtful. More class.

An activist on his Facebook page making a tasteless remark is different once again. Chelsea went through an awkward phase where she could be described as less than beautiful. Pointing that out is insensitive, but NOWHERE near a joke about raping her made on national TV.

@WANTING

" Palin - she does not give a Damn about any of her children "

Wow "wanting."
You are a piece of work,
sounding so warm and embraceable.

Are you bitter, with the weight of the
whole world on your shoulders, stewing in hatred for anyone
who might not agree with you ?

Sounds like someone hasn't had any lovin' in a long time ?

Sounding like the kind of person who becomes so bitter over time,
the kind of person who turns all the lights off at Halloween
so kids won't knock on your door.

Go get a massage . . . or something.

Oh, right. "Wanting" (class, decency and common sense!) is supposedly so good at volleying a strong argument from the opposing tema. Pfft! You could cut and paste the comments from every single Daily Beast thread. "You carny trash" and whore and blah blah. Wanting has something against circus folks. Maybe its mother is the bearded lady and papa was the disappearing man.

Dear Possum,

This is what I meant. A horrible comment about the First Lady is just an "activist posting a tasteless remark on Facebook (I believe that the activist is, or was, pretty high up in the Republican Party.) Jokes about Chelsea during her "awkward phase" are harmless (Rush Limbaugh holding up a picture of the White House dog and saying it is Chelsea is "harmless"?). Don't you see that there is no difference? It depends on which side you are on as to whether or not you are outraged. We are all in this together you know. Either you should be outraged by all of it, or non of it, no matter which side of the political spectrum you are on. You can't pick and chose.

Also, I don't think Letterman ever said anything about rape. It was Palin who brought that image into the picture and also that of David Letterman as a pedophile with her daughter. Thanks a lot for those images Sarah! Would have never entered my head if you hadn't put them there. I feel sorry for Willow, because she is old enough to have heard all of this stuff. Maybe she is even reading these comments. Seems like there might have been a more discreet way for her mom to handle all of this. Maybe a personal call to Letterman? Might have been a lot better, but she wouldn't get any publicity, and that is the point.

No, Kitty, an activist is not an elected official. Someone from SC making an off-color joke on their Facebook page is not the same as publicly "joking" on national TV about raping a 14 YO girl, or sexually harassing a successful female Governor.

Commenting on Chelsea's looks, or even going back thousands of years to the remark by Emperor Claudius that the Consul's wife was ugly enough to be one of Caligula's equine Senatorial appointments (where was the GOP's outrage then?!! The hypocrisy!) is not the same as joking about child rape.

The issue here is not self-esteem, though calling a 14 YO who did nothing but accompany her mother to a baseball game a WHORE and joking about raping her during the 7th inning certainly shakes your self-esteem, but it is rather about making a clear statement that exploiting minors is very wrong.

To possum, PLEASE show me a picture of this 14 year old (according to many sources, she was born in January 1994, making her 15 1/2- guess mom and dad don't know how old their daughter is? or are they trying to make this an even bigger issue by making her seem younger?) at the game with her parents. I cannot find a picture ANYWHERE of her at the game- which the Palins left in the 6th inning.

Also, the Palins were the ones to bring in the word "rape" as well as talking about the joke as referring to Willow. The joke- tasteless as it may have been, I'll give you that- was about Bristol, the Governor's unmarried daughter, who has a son.

Obviously, nothing anyone says to you with comparison between this and other comments about other people in the public eye will make any difference to you. I do, however, wonder where Palin's outrage was when SNL had a skit about Todd having an incestuous relationship with their daughters. She was A GUEST on the show a month later! Letterman's joke (again, tasteless though it may have been) was nowhere near as offending as that statement.

Again, it's not about hurting people's feelings. It's about teaching you animals boundaries. It is not acceptable to joke about statutory rape. That the joke is hurtful is a no-brainer. That encouraging society to speak about young women -- children -- the way you speak about women should be grounds for firing.

Possum--Why are we all animals? It seems you're fighting just as hard as everyone else to make people believe your point, so a few things:
1) Letterman shouldn't have made a joke about someone's kid.
2) The joke was about Bristol (who's 18) and the fact that A-Rod can't resist a young co-ed (and they go willingly), not about Willow being raped.
3) Sarah Palin first to mention rape or Willow.
4) Letterman is not an elected official either. Essentially, his facebook page is national television.
5) The facebook comment is a direct reference to one of the most egregious stereotypes against black people (we all look like monkies/we're less than human)

I don't have anything against you (or anyone else in these comments), and I disagree with many of the statements made about Sarah Palin or you or the people you're disagreeing with. I think that this issue has been blown out of proportion as a direct result of untruths and twisted context in the media; much of which you are repeating here.

Thanks

POSSUMDEARIE I missed when Chelsea Clinton solicited sex from a dirtbag Democratic party governor or was raped by a celebrity baseball player in a supposed joke. David Letterman was projecting his own twisted fantasies onto a young woman over half his age.@@@ IF YOU'RE JEALOUS THAT REPUBLICANS' TWISTED FANTASIES ARE ABOUT LITTLE BOYS AND GIRLS THEN SWITCH OVER TO THE DEM SIDE. WE DONT DISCRIMINATE.. BASED ON YOUR REPUBLICAN PARTY'S HISTORY, THAT'S ALL THEY ENDULGE IN:
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

*Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

*Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.

*Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

*Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

*Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

*Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

*Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

*Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

*Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Yeah, but what about those thighs...

Who's in left field here? The 18 year old did get knocked up should not have surprised Palin since knowing to her, the young ones shared the same bed or did she think they would practice the Elvis/Prescilla type safe sex?

Excellent post! Very well stated.

possumdearie......you make an excellent suggestion.....burn them at the stake.......Hmmmmm.....well worth some thought......Thank You!!

Where is Wanting ?
Please swoop in and deal with
This post-
It's your specialty.

Yes, mahank, I thought someone might like that idea of burning them at the stake, since your side already thought to hang them and shoot them. Then somewhere down in the comments, another person bristles at "stormtrooper" and Gestapo comparisons. You people are sad.

Possum, well said. Unfortunately this falls on deaf ears. The sound of many of the posters bleating, "Beauty Pageant!" "Stupid!" "Unaccomplished!" and of course "Whore", gives you the temperature and acumen of the Daily Beast audience. You may want to take this to another blog venue where ideas matter.

No Possum-
It was the internal hypocrisy
Of condemning name calling while
Name calling to make the point-
Which caused the 'bristling'.
Read it again-
You missed it.

No, rita rita, there was no name-calling coming from the right in this instance. Letterman started the name-calling, and you people are spinning justifications.

"you people"?? There's the fundamental problem with your entire outlook. There is no "we" - as in "country". All you see is "us vs. them". Another fundamental problem.....you just don't have a sense of humor.....

No possum-
The post.
Read the post.
My comment was in response
To your reference of the
Post below.

It was a joke
Romeo-
Don't take it so hard.
Just a joke.

Mahank, Lecherman made this debate an "us against them" gang fight. These slurs we have from the elitists made at he expense of working class whites is tribalism. To the liberal urban elite, poor "whites" are those responsible for racism and other sins associated with the dominant culture, and thus by association taint the white aristocracy unfairly. These elites feel they own poor whites and can attack them when they step out of line, while other poor minorities must be bargained with, cajoled or targeted for large-scale oppression that can be kept under wraps.

Here are more of Lecherman's classist and sexist comments about Palin:

"You know, she reminds me, she looks like the flight attendant who won't give you a second can of Pepsi. No, you've had enough. We're landing. Looks like the waitress at the coffee shop who draws a little smiley face on your check. Have a nice day."

"She looks like the dip sample lady at Safeway. She looks like the nurse who weighs you and then makes you sit alone in your underwear for 20 minutes. She looks like the Olive Garden hostess who says, 'I'm sorry, your table isn't ready yet.' She looks like the infomercial lady who says she made $64,000 a month flipping condos."

"She looks like the lady at the bakery who yells out '44! 45!' She looks like a real estate agent whose picture you see on the bus stop bench. That's who she looks like. She looks like the lady who has a chain of cupcake stores."

In November 2008, Letterman told tanking CBS News anchor Katie Couric that he was "aroused" by Palin. In March 2009, Letterman attacked Bristol and snickered about her being "knocked up" again. This time, Letterman was deliberately unclear which daughter he was referring to. Other remarks having gone unanswered, he moved in for the kill and pushed the envelope further. Palin was justified and absolutely right to issue a statement.

I BEG ONE AND ALL--please don't flatter the odious possum with a response. He's a kindred spirit of Banjo's. He's a "baiter"--NOT a debater; a person whose world-view is one big fixed and rigid recitation of hateful platitudes and stereotypes. He's unworthy of a thoughtful rebuttal. He's a yawn. If the opposite of hope is despair; despair, thy name is possum.

SPAM wanting. Give it a rest and get off the glue. A small town mayor asked for earmarks and hired lobbyists. Call me a waaaaahmbulance!

Let's see you call out the real thieves in DC, those who are responsible for wrecking our economy, Senator Dodd, Congressman Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, Nancy Pelosi...

What about the US House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members - on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus while many Americans took a pay cut to their save jobs, if tey were lucky enough to dodge the "funemployment" (LA Times) line. Double digit unemployment. Rising gas prices. Massive inflation on the way.

You haven't said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn't!
Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's
$45 million more than the AIG bonuses.
In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million -
not a bad take. Who authorized that and
why haven't you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely
responsible for the economic mess we have right
now.

Wanting, you dumb macaca, you're out of your league here. You don't even know the difference between debt and deficit. You just make up numbers and yell WHORE when it hurts your brain to think.

The Bush administration racked up deficits of $158 billion in 2002, $378 billion in 2003, $413 billion in 2004, $318 billion in 2005, $248 billion in 2006, $162 billion in 2007, and $410 billion in 2008. Obama's trillions dwarf that "dangerous" spending.

In the span of four days, we saw the signing of the $787 billion stimulus bill, the rollout of a $275 billion housing proposal, discussion of Congress's remaining appropriations bills (about $400 billion) and word of a vaguely-defined financial stabilization plan that could ultimately cost $2 trillion. When representatives of GM and Chrysler said they might need $21 billion more to survive, it seemed like the change your alcoholic mother used to dig out from under her bed to send you to the store and go get her a pack of Newport 100s.

Obama's current spending proposals will cost more than the US spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the general war on terror and Hurricane Katrina in the last seven years. And that's before you throw in the $2 trillion fiscal stabilization plan. The CBO predicts his healthcare plan will leave 30b million unisnsured and cost $1 trillion. His projected budget over the next decade would cost $9.3 trillion. TWICE WHAT BUSH SPENT, SO STFU.

Possum--You have to add up all those deficit numbers to come to the total deficit created by the Bush administration. Then you need to calculate and add the interest on that money (don't forget to compound the percentage daily from the time of its inception). Finally, add the surplus that was in the treasury, and then you come up with the spending that the Bush administration created. Obama's spending, to date mind you, including the stimulus package is somewhere between 9 and 13.5% of that.

As for the healthcare plan, certain cuts have been proposed that would easily cut down the initial cost over the next 4 to 5 years to roughly $50 billion dollars. This is much more manageable than the rising cost of medicaid and medicare. Also, a public provider healthcare plan doesn't leave members of the public without insurance. Essentially, it prevents this from happening.

POSSUMDEARIE SAYS "Which daughter was at the actual game in question? The 14 YO. Does Tina Brown or David Letterman actually care which daughter it was? No. It was made clear that Sarah Palin is a "slutty flight attendant" and passed this promiscuity and fecund, overt sexuality onto *all* her daughters, like they are a coven of witches to be burned at the stake, so even if it weren't Bristol, who overshot the boundaries of taste by leftist standards by a mere 200 weeks, then it could as well have been Willow, who apparently "asked for it."
INNOVATIONS SAYS---> TALK ABOUT DOUBLE STANDARD. EARLIER YOU RESPONDED TO A JOKE ON SARAH DROPPING THE FIRST PUCK AT A PHILADELPHIA FLYERS GAME. THE JOKE WAS :Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers' hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter's penalty box." --Conan O'Brien" YOUR REPLY WAS: " Hockey mom has to keep men away from her hot daughter". SARAH PALIN WAS THERE WITH PIPER AND WILLOW AGES 6 AND 13 AT THE TIME. DO YOU ACTUALLY CARE WHICH DAUGHTER IT WAS? REFERRING TO A 6 YEAR OLD AS "HOT"? LIKE IF PIPER AND WILLOW ARE A COVEN OF WITCHES TO BE BURNED AT THE STAKE? ONLY A PERVERTED PEDOPHILE WOULD THINK THAT A HOCKEY TEAM WOULD ALL WANT TO COME AFTER A 6 YEAR OLD'S "PENALTY BOX". WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE THAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT BRISTOL AS "THE HOT DAUGHTER" WHEN SHE WASN'T AT THE GAME?

"Or do you just like to repeat unfounded gossip?" WOW WOW WOW... you are actually accusing others of repeating unfounded gossip!?!?!?!? Oh yee of... "Obama'sa socialist/communist/facist" "Obama isn't a U.S. Citizen"..."Obama's a Muslim"....."Obama has tail"..... blah blah blah... talk about pot calling the kettle black!!!!! There ya go....now you can run with the "black" reference........

We all heard it on the video live. We also heard the Bomb him that led John Lewis to speak out! You can't rewrite history.

LOL.... well MOswingvoter, I just read the article you suggested.....Ummmm did YOU read it? It doesn't in any way, shape or form say that no one actually yelled "kill him" at a Palin rally. It says that Secret Service personnel interviewing rally attendees couldn't get anyone to corroberate the story. Hmmmm....let's see, is that THAT surprising? Rabid Palin supporters reluctant to confirm that one of their own would shout "kill him" at their rally....... wow, give me a minute while I wipe the Shock off my face!!!

Swingvoter is right. both had reporters that were the sole person hearing the same line, and I could find no link on Youtube to substantiate it.
Whoever, said they had recordings of them should post the link. I listened to the ones that were available.

I didn't originally say it, but I heard it on the live video feed (surprisingly enough on Fox News). I don't have the link, but they played the clip in reference to John McCain's call for his own supporters to calm down. The incident occured about a week or two before the "He's a Muslim" lady got the mic.

Oooh possum-
Nasty.
Unnecessary.
Very low ball.
It's just a comment board
No need to stoop that low.

So, in this scenario, am I Billy Bob Thornton in "Sling Blade" or Pat Benatar in the "Love Is a Battlefield" video. Wanting gives such dated references and has such conflicting metaphors, the incoherence a sure sign of dementia.

Wanting, if you're wearing a woman's skin as you type your insane garbage all over teh internetz, I don't need a PhD to see you're bat shit crazy. You know what you sound like, actually? A Muslim. I bet you've been writing from Gaza all this time. Let me ask you...if you have a camel and a goat, does that make you bisexual?

WOW. Wanting-
Now you've done it.
Possum saved her very best insult
For YOU.
You must be a MUSLIM.
Get it?
That's worst thing you could be-
A MUSLIM !

She must be really really mad!

Or really really transparent.

Ritarita, if someone likes to speak violently about women and compulsively call them WHORES, andthey seem to culturally at war with a people who would see them stopped, they are most likely 1. a psychopath 2. sexually repressed / aggressive 3. doesn't that sound like someone who would bury a rape victim up to her neck in the sand and stone her to death?

NOBODY called a 14 year old whore NOR were any comments made about raping said 14 year old. Stop taking out Palin's trash. Openly lying about something that is easily fact-checked only makes you look like a fool.

You really should take your Palin love behind a locked bathroom door.

Possum-
You're the only one
Who has used language like WHORE
And Palin threw RAPE in there
For good measure.

There's no reason to incite
Emotions if you think you have
A strong argument.
It looks and sounds dishonest.
People can sniff that stuff out
A mile away.
You don't seem to have any respect
For the intelligence of those you're trying
To convince or you would see the
Transparency of making a
Phony argument.

Your friend Wanting is the one who yells WHORE. Because you people seem a bit slow on the take... the only way you can "knock up" a 14 YO girl is by raping her, because the law still considers her a child. Maybe not monsters like you, Lecherman and Wanting, but that's why we have prisons, for those who disregard laws like the legal age of consent.

POSSUMDEARIE SAYS "Wanting, you dumb macaca, you're out of your league here. You don't even know the difference between debt and deficit. You just make up numbers and yell WHORE when it hurts your brain to think. The Bush administration racked up deficits of $158 billion in 2002, $378 billion in 2003, $413 billion in 2004, $318 billion in 2005, $248 billion in 2006, $162 billion in 2007, and $410 billion in 2008. Obama's trillions dwarf that "dangerous" spending.In the span of four days, we saw the signing of the $787 billion stimulus bill, the rollout of a $275 billion housing proposal, discussion of Congress's remaining appropriations bills (about $400 billion) and word of a vaguely-defined financial stabilization plan that could ultimately cost $2 trillion. When representatives of GM and Chrysler said they might need $21 billion more to survive, it seemed like the change your alcoholic mother used to dig out from under her bed to send you to the store and go get her a pack of Newport 100s." @@@@@@@@ INNOVATIONS SAYS-->POSSUMDEARIE, I LOVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU BECAUSE IT DISPLAYS THE STUPIDITY ALL YOU RIGHTYS ACQUIRE FROM LISTENING TO GUYS LIKE HANNITY AND LIMBAUGH. ALL THOSE NUMBERS YOU THREW ARE COMPLETELY WAY WAY OFF. YOU EVER HEARD OF SOMETHING CALLED THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE? THEY'RE NOBODY REALLY THIS IS WHAT THEY DO-->The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is a federal agency within the legislative branch of the United States government. It is a government agency that provides economic data. AND ACCORDING TO THEIR JANUARY 2009 REPORT--> In January 2001, the Clinton Administration left office with a budget surplus projected to be $5.6 trillion over ten years. The Bush Administration squandered that budget surplus, and now is leaving a projected deficit of well over $4 trillion for that same period (2002-2011). One result of the Bush Administration's fiscal choices is that debt held by the public has grown from $3.4 trillion in 2001 to $6.3 trillion in 2009, an increase of 89 percent in just eight years. At the same time, the amount of that debt that is foreign-owned has tripled, from $1.0 trillion in 2001 to $3.0 trillion.**** YET THE NUMBERS YOU PROVIDE TOTAL UP ROUGHLY $2 TRILLION. SO BUSH WALKED IN TO OFFICE WITH A $5 TRILLION SURPLUS AND LEFT WITH A DEFICIT OF "WELL OVER" $4 TRILLION. SO IN 8 YEARS BUSH WENT THROUGH WELL OVER $9 TRILLION, AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THE F**K IT WENT. PERHAPS YOU HAVE A LIMBAUGH STORY FOR THAT ONE. LIKE THE WARS. OOOPS! THE CBO REPORTS THAT BUSH NEVER SPENT A DIME ON THE WARS.-->As a result of their misguided fiscal choices, President Bush and Republican Congresses squandered the budget opportunities they inherited and are passing along historically large budget deficits that will persist for years.The Bush Administration's refusal to offset the costs of its new tax cuts, new entitlement expansions, and the wars have led to the ballooning of the national debt. The Bush Administration has pushed through tax cuts that cost roughly $2 trillion, The wars have already cost nearly $900 billion. Yet, the Administration has paid for none of these measures. In fact, if the Bush Administration's tax cuts and the war had been fully offset, we would not be facing such a mountain of debt, which threatens our economy and our ability to meet the needs of our citizens.** WHERE DID THAT SURPLUS GO IF BUSH NEVER PAID FOR ANYTHING AND JUST RAN UP A TAB FOR THE NEXT GUY?? YES, OBAMA WILL BE DOING ALOT OF SPENDING, BUT LOOK WHAT HE HAS TO PAY. ON TOP OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST OBAMA TO GET THIS COUNTRY BACK ON ITS FEET, HE HAS TO PAY BUSH'S BILLS, AND LETS NOT FORGET THE $6 TRILLION BUSH BORROWED FROM CHINA THROUGHOUT HIS 8 YEARS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WELL OVER $10 TRILLION ON BUSH ALONE THAT OBAMA IS GOING TO HAVE TO TRY AND PAY BACK. BEFORE HE EVEN TAKES CARE OF HIS OWN BUSINESS. AND SO IN CONCLUSION, The Clinton Administration proved that sustained efforts over time can successfully make progress in reducing deficits; it will likewise take time to climb out of the budgetary ditch that the current Administration is leaving behind....NOW WHAT WAS THAT SH*T YOU WAS SAYING ABOUT TINA BROWN AND SOMEBODY'S ALCOHOLIC MOTHER? WHAT'S THE MATTER SHE DUMPED YOU? NOT EVEN AN ALCOHOLIC MOTHER WANTS TO DEAL WITH STUPID RIGHTY'S WHO SHOOT THEIR MOUTH AND KNOW SH*T BUT TWO WORDS. A.M.RADIO AND FOXNEWS. PATHETIC SKUM!"

If you want to appear smart, at least when you're getting all CAPS-LOCKY and ANGRY, you should Innovate some fucking paragraphs. Are you even typing with opposable thumbs, you ignorant cave dweller?

Yeah, use CBO estimates for events that have already passed instead of just linking the US Treasury. There was never a Clinton surplus, dumbass.

Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

As can clearly be seen, in no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit. Yes, the deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of "only" $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero--let alone a positive surplus number. And Clinton's last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

Keep in mind that President Bush took office in January 2001 and his first budget took effect October 1, 2001 for the year ending September 30, 2002 (FY2002). So the $133.29 billion deficit in the year ending September 2001 was Clinton's. Granted, Bush supported a tax refund where taxpayers received checks in 2001. However, the total amount refunded to taxpayers was only $38 billion . So even if we assume that $38 billion of the FY2001 deficit was due to Bush's tax refunds which were not part of Clinton's last budget, that still means that Clinton's last budget produced a deficit of 133.29 - 38 = $95.29 billion.

Clinton clearly did not achieve a surplus and he didn't leave President Bush with a surplus, but that won't stop you astroturfing little fascists from lying till your ugly faces fall off. I could go point by point and knock down your claims, like Bush never included the Iraq war in his budget (Are you high? Do you not remember all those votes in Congress on approving budgets?), but since you're RANTING ABOUT THE CLINTON BUDGET THAT NEVER HAPPENED, I'll assume I'm dealing with an unhinged moonbat and drop it.

Possum--You can't make an argument against the use of threatening language where women are involved by making threatening statements to a woman who dis agrees with your views.

You and Wanting can go back and forth all day, but be careful the way you speak to people who are only making their comments and not directing statements at you.

POSSUMDEARIE LMAO WHAT DO YOU DO MAKE UP YOUR OWN REPORT AND COME IN HERE LIKE A KNOW IT ALL AND THINK PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO YOUR STUPID ASS? I SEE YOU ONLY POST THE NATIONAL DEBT CUZ YOU DONT WANNA SHOW HOW THE PUBLUC DEBT WENT FROM $140 BILLION WHEN CLINTON LEFT TO $1 TRILLION. AND YES MORON, CLINTOJN LEFT A $5 TRILLION SURPLUS. LMAO NOW THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE ARE LIARS. IF YOU GET CAUGHT IN A LIE, THEN THEY'RE THE LIARS, WHEN YOU GET THE TRUTH THROWN AT YOU, THE TRUTH CAME FROM A CHEAP SOURCE LOL. YOU MUST BE THE ONE THEY SLAPPED AROUND IN SCHOOL.
ANYWAY, I WENT TO THE U.S. TREASURY AND FOUND, AGAIN TOTALLY DIFFERENT FIGURES.

Recent additions to U.S. public debtFiscal year (begins
10/01 of prev. year) Value % of GDP
2001 $144.5 billion 1.4%
2002 $409.5 billion 3.9%
2003 $589.0 billion 5.5%
2004 $605.0 billion 5.3%
2005 $523.0 billion 4.3%
2006 $536.5 billion 4.1%
2007 $459.5 billion 3.4%
2008 $1017.0 billion (proj.) 7.4%
WHEN BUSH TOOK OFFICE OUR PUBLIC DEBT WAS $144 BILLION , WHEN HE FINALLY DID US A FAVOR AND GOT THE HELL OUT, IT WAS AT $1 TRULLION. AND AGAIN WHERE THE HELL DO YOU GET THOSE RETARDED FIGURES? I TAKE IT YOU KNOW HOW TO READ A CHART



HOPEFULLY THE CHART CAME OUT IF IT DIDNT YOU CAN CHECK THE GRAPH FROM THE US TREAURY. GOTTA PLEASE THE STUPID.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x77/sm00th116/NATIONALDEBT.png

THE RED IS THE INCREASE IN NATIONAL DEBT THE BLUE IS THE TOTAL BUDGET DEFICIT

possumdearie says-->The only Palin daughter who accompanied the Governor to NY was the 14 YO. Letterman wisecracked about Spitzer soliciting sex from her and about her being raped in the dugout of Yankee stadium during the 7th inning of a game. @@@@@ INNOVATIONS SAYS--> DUDE I AM HAVING THE TIME OF MY LIFE READING ALL YOUR POSTS. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM ARE LIES AND MADE UP STUFF. BUT I HAVE A LIFE. THIS ONE HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO REPLY VERY SERIOUS SO U CAN SEE WHAT YOUR'RE WASTING YOUR TIME ON. SARAH PALIN TOLD KATIE COURIC IN AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIE THAT IF A 14 YR OLD GIRL WAS RAPED EVEN BY HER FATHER, THAT IT WOULD NOT BE AN EXCUSE TO HAVE AN ABORTION, THEN HOPEFULLY IF YOU'RE STILL ON EARTH, YOU WOULD CONCLUDE THAT THIS WOMAN HAS NO CONSIDERATION FOR KIDS WHATSOEVER.
DO YOU OR HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A WOMAN THAT GOT RAPED AND PREGNANT AND THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY? RAPE VICTIMS GO THROUGH ALOT OF PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL TRAUMA. THE PHYSICAL PART OF THE TRAUMA COMES FROM THE EMOTIONAL PART. NAUSEA, VOMITING, LOSS OF APPETITE, BLOOD PRESSURE RISES,. ETC..THE MINUTE THAT EGG IS CONCEIVED THE MOTHER CANT BE FEELING THIS WAY. IT PUTS HER AND THE BABY AT RISK FOR DEATH. THE COMBINATION OF THE SYMPTOMS I JUST GAVE TO AN AVERAGE PERSON WHO SUFFERED AN EMOTIONAL TRAUMA GOES AWAY IN A WEEK MAYBE. BUT WHEN YOU'RE PREGNANT, IT CAN LEAD TO MANY SERIOUS SITUATIONS, AND A COMMON ONE IS CALLED " ECLAMPSIA".. WELL 1ST COME "PRE-ECLAMPSIA" BUT IT MORE THAN USUALLY MOVES UP TO THE NECT STAGE (ECLAMPSIA). SOME DOCTORS CALL IT BY ITS LONG NAME "Hypertensive disorder of pregnancy and toxemia of pregnancy". EITHER WAY, ABOUT 90% OF THE TIME THE MOTHER WILL MISCARRIAGE BY HER 3RD MONTH AND DEOENDING ON HOW SEVERE HER ECLAMPSIA, SHE CAN GO INTO A SHOCK-INDUCED COMA. THAT'S HOW MUCH SARAH PALIN CARES ABOUT 14 YR OLDS. SO WHETHER YOU THINK LETTERMAN KNEW OR DIDNT KNOW THAT WILLOW WAS THERE IS IRRELEVANT. BECAUSE BOTTOM LINE IS, SHE REALLY WASNT OFFENDED. IF SHE WAS, SHE WOULD'VE BEEN OFFENDED A WHILE AGO WHEN OTHER COMICS MADE THE SAME JOKE HERE'S A FEW:
1)Gov. Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. And you thought John Edwards was in trouble before! Now he has really done it." -- "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno," 9/2/08
2) "Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers' hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter's penalty box." --Conan O'Brien
3)The theme for tonight's Republican convention is 'Who is John McCain' ... Tomorrow night's theme is, `Who forgot to check if the vice president's daughter is pregnant?"' -- "Late Night With Conan O'Brien," 9/2/08
4)"I don't think that a young lady getting pregnant should even be news, unless John Edwards is the father. Then that is kinda news." -- "The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson," 9/2/08
*** SO NOW, JUST LIKE YOU INSIST THAT LETTERMAN KNEW WILLOW WAS THERE, NOW WE CAN CONCLUSE THAT PALIN KNEW ABOUT THESE JOKES BUT CARED TO DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. SO WHY NOW? HMMMM, DAVE WORKS FOR CBS?? AND SO DOES KATIE COURIC. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. CE LA VEE.

OH AND P.S. I ADDED THE LINK TO THE CLIP WHERE SARAH TALKS ABOUT HER PRO-LIFE THEORY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7FLeIycLh4
AND C'MON. SHE TURNED A 9 DAY RAMPAGE ABOUT THAT DAMN JOKE THEN TURNED IT INTO A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN..."thankfully we have the right to express our reaction.""This is all thanks to our U.S. military men and women putting their lives on the line for us to secure America's right to free speech," she said. "In this case, may that right be used to promote equality and respect."...
IS THAT WHY OUR TROOPS ARE IN AFGHANISTAN?? IRAQ? FOR OUR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH?? I DIDNT KNOW AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ TOOK AWAY THAT RIGHT. THE TRUTH IS, THE ONLY VICTIM HERE IS LETTERMAN. SHE DIDNT PICK ON NO OTHER COMIC (AND BELIEVE ME, IF AROD PISSED HER OFF, IMAGINE IF LETTERMAN SAID THAT SHE WAS KNOCKED UP THE THE NEW YORK YANKEES. BUT SHE DIDNT SEEM TO CARE ABOUT THE PHILADELPHIA FLYERS TRYING TO GET INTO HER DAUGHTERS'; "PENALTY BOX".. THE JOKE DIDNT SAY WHICH DAUGHTER EITHER. HYPOCRACY 100%.

Oh, sure. You're above commenting, as you cut and paste SOME BATSHIT CRAZY WALL OF TEXT. Now, you want to get into abortion? Let's do this.

Palin's interview with Couric -- her exact words -- "I would choose life." Here is the transcript:

Couric: If a 15-year-old is raped by her father, do you believe it should be illegal for her to get an abortion, and why?

Palin: I am pro-life, and I'm unapologetic in my position that I am pro-life. I understand there are good people on both sides of the abortion debate. In fact, good people in my own family have differing views on abortion, and when it should be allowed. Do I respect people's opinions on this? Now, I would counsel to choose life. I would also like to see a culture of life in this country. But I would also like to take it one step further. Not just saying I am pro-life and I want fewer and fewer abortions in this country, but I want them, women who find themselves in circumstances that are absolutely less than ideal, for them to be supported, and adoptions made easier.

Couric: But ideally, you think it should be illegal for a girl who was raped or the victim of incest to get an abortion?

Palin: I'm saying that, personally, I would counsel the person to choose life, despite horrific, horrific circumstances that this person would find themselves in. And, um, if you're asking, though, kind of fundamentally here, should anyone end up in jail for having an ... abortion, absolutely not. That's nothing I would ever support.

That being said, you go from misrepresenting Palin's personal views on life, when it begins and when the law steps in favoring the mother or the child. Hang on to your effin hats, though, here comes the slippery slope argument that beats all. ECLAMPSIA. Are you kidding me? Do you realize how few abortions are because of rape? Do you realize how few rapists are brought to justice with the current laws in place? A 15 YO girl can go into a clinic, having been raped, get an abortion without parental notification and never breathe a word about what happened to her? Does this strike you as ideal?

Again, you halfwits seem to think this about self-esteem, that it was a joke about teen pregnancy rather than a joke about sexually assaulting a minor. All four jokes you listed have nothing to do with this. Let's see...

1. Joke about John Edwards cheating on his cancer-stricken wife
2. Hockey mom has to keep men away from her hot daughter
3. The McCain team seemed surprised that Bristol was pregnant (in fact, they knew but thought they could keep it private until amateur gynecologist / Hardy Boy Andrew Sullivan reported in The Atlantic Monthly that Palin faked her own pregnancy and Trigg was really Bristol's.)
4. Joke about John Edwards cheating on his cancer-stricken wife

Which of these comes even close to insinuating a 14 YO girl was raped at a ball game? Buehler? Anyone?

POSSUMDEARIE, NOW THAT I PROBABLY EMBARRASSED THE CRAP OUT OF YOU WITH THE HONEST MISTAKE ABOUT BRISTOL HAVING TO BE GUARDED WHEN IT WAS PIPER AND 13 YEAR OLD WILLOW AT THE FLYERS' GAME,, LETS TAKE CARE OF THE US TREASURY NUMBERS I RETRIEVED.. YOUR IDEA OF CLINTON'S NATIONAL DEBT SHOWS $5 TRILLION WHERE AS THE GRAPH, FROM THE US TREASURY, JUST LIKE YOU ORDERED YOUR HINEYSH*T, SHOWS THAT THE BLUE IT DIDNT REACH $5 UNTIL 2005 ISH, LMAO I LOVE RETARDS WHO PLAY SMART AND WE'RE DUMB. ... OH AND A-HOLES LIKE YOU ALWAYS TRY AND MAKE A COMEBACK AND BLAME EVERYTHING ON THE 2006 DEMOCRATIC TAKE OVER OF CONGRESS. LET ME SAVE YOU SOME MORE EMBARRASSMENT BY LETTING YOU KNOW THAT BUSH RUBBER STAMPED ALL BILLS FROM THE DAY HE WALKED INTO OFFICE UNTIL THE DAY DEMS WALKED IN. AFTER THAT, BUSH NEVER PASSED ANYTHING. JUST DOING U A FAVOR. NOONE LIKE EMBARRASSMENT.

innovations

Again, you halfwits seem to think this about self-esteem, that it was a joke about teen pregnancy rather than a joke about sexually assaulting a minor. All four jokes you listed have nothing to do with this. Let's see...

1. Joke about John Edwards cheating on his cancer-stricken wife
2. Hockey mom has to keep men away from her hot daughter
3. The McCain team seemed surprised that Bristol was pregnant (in fact, they knew but thought they could keep it private until amateur gynecologist / Hardy Boy Andrew Sullivan reported in The Atlantic Monthly that Palin faked her own pregnancy and Trigg was really Bristol's.)
4. Joke about John Edwards cheating on his cancer-stricken wife

LMAO C;MON MAN DO YOU THINK WE';RE AS STUPID AS YOU??? JKESUS CHRIST THESE JOKES ARE EVERYWHERE THE JOKE ON JOHN EDWARDS WAS NOT ABOUT CHEATING ON HIS WIFE. THE JOKE WAS ABOUT BRISTOL BEING PREGNANT
*** 1)Gov. Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. And you thought John Edwards was in trouble before! Now he has really done it." LMAO DUDE IF YOU INTERPRET THAT JOKE AS A BASH AT EDWARDS, ITS NO WONDER YOUR A LOST CASE. LET ME ASK YOU, DID PALIN PUT YOU ON HER PAYROLL TO MAKE HER LOOK LIKE A VICTIM?? YOU'RE DOING A POOR JOB MAN. THAT JOKE IS THE SAME AS AROD KNOCKING UP BRISTOL--YEA YEA YOU SAY IT WAS WILLOW BECAUSE SHE WAS MISTAKEN FOR THE KNOCKED UP ONE BELIEVE WHAT U WANT.

:HOCKEY MOM HAS TO KEEP MEN AWAY FROM HER HOT DAUGHTER HUH?
IT WAS WILLOW AND PIPER SHE TOOK TO THAT HOCKEY GAME PERVERT SHE WAS ONLY 13 AT THE TIME LMAO ROFL.. DO YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BRISTOL??? NONONONOOO EXCUSES. NOONE WANTS TO BELIEVE LETTERMAN SO THE GOLDEN RULE DOESNT APPLY TO YOU. WHAT GOES AROUND JUST CAME AROUND AND THIS CASE IS CLOSED. NOW YOU KNOW HOW DAVE FEELS AND THE CRAP HE HAS TO PUT UP WITH. YOU JUST THOUGHT IT WAS BRISTOL. THATS AN EXCUSE LIKE PALIN SAID. YOU GOTTA APOLOGIZE. LMAO HAHAA SCHMUCK.

PUSSYDEARIE WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO YOU? EVER SINCE I KNOCKED YOU ON YOUR ASS YOU HAVENT COME BACK IN WITH YOUR TRASH. HOPEFULLY THAT MEANS YOU GREW UP.

She may not have asked for it but she was gleeful when she heard it. She giggled just like she did when the Prankster referred to enjoying the porno "Nailin' Palin" This is what Palin thrives on.

So, in Atlanta, you can "respect person's [sic] beliefs, families and especially young women. But let a person say something you don't like, then law and order be damned !? Please tell me that if someone was guilty of a verbal slight/denigration of someone you loved that you wouldn't see this as justification of lying in wait for them in a parking lot and then--what--committing a felony??? Ridiculous. That's not even equivalent to the now-illegal duel.

Her taking offense is not the problem. Her retaliating in a way that brings everyone's attention to the "hurtful" statement against her daughter is. No one saw or heard that joke the night it aired (Letterman's ratings are pretty low comparatively speaking). Everyone heard it after Governor Palin brought our attention to it.

It is true though, the service club circuit is the door to power in many small towns, and to become a member you have to go through a procedure, sometimes the members are male only, and the sub-club is female.

Tina is right, Hillary could teach Palin alot, though I would think if Palin's husband did a "naughty" with an intern the way Hilary's husband did, I would think that she would not hold her wrath in, and share it in private only.

That is often the way small towns work, everyone will know anyway, sooner or later, the story will get even better. Possibly starts off with one intern lands up with two or three interns.

I would think McCain just assumed that Palin was more book smart than she appeared to be, and would have at least one favourite magazine about global issues that she reads regularly. I would guess he was very surprised when he realized how unsophisticated she really appeared to be.

But people in small towns, of course not all people, often don't care what is going on anywhere else, especially if they live there to espcae modern awfulness.

The mark of a successful Sec of State (and President) is how other countries -- our friends, our enemies, and the neutrals -- react to us. A President with a successful foreign policy will see our friends elect governments that are friendly to his (as Germany and France did in the Bush years). He will see enemies stop their nuclear programs or end them altogether (as North Korea and Libya did in the Bush years). He will see neutrals adopting more American values of democracy and civilization (as many Arab and other Muslim-majority states did in the Bush years).

A President with an unsuccessful foreign policy will see the opposite: Our friends will elect governments ideologically opposed to his. Our enemies will step up their nuclear weapons programs. The neutrals will end military basing arrangements with us and thumb their noses at our democratic values.

Thus far, the scoreboard for Obama and Hillary in foreign policy doesn't look favorable -- neither to them, nor to us.

Romeo-
So according to you-
North Korea no longer has
A nuclear program.
News you can use
Here at the Daily Beast.
I can't even deal with the other
Bushit.

Ritarita, I see like many liberals including Obama, you sometimes think Bush is still in office. HJe's a convenient scapegoat, but it looks bad when you're tasked with actual governance.

As for the NORKS, that's a good reason Alaska's ballistic missile defense budget shouldn't have been cut.

Of course you were
Romeo.

To those TDB readers who wonder about the source of this comment, because it seems to be responsive to nothing:

Ritarita
Of course you were
Romeo.

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Do not fear for Ritarita's mental health. The TDB editors, in their wisdom, removed a comment from me without removing Ritarita's reply comment. Perhaps they, for understandable reasons of decorum, intended to remove the comment following her reply rather than the one before.

RomeoHotel, WTH could you have said that Wanting hadn't said a thousand times with infinitely less wit while compensating with hate and vulgarity?

Breaking news...President of Hillary Fan Club learns to spell "ignoramus."

Paging Governor Palin: Your seat on the dumpster of national news (FOX) is wating. Captain Hannity will punch your ticket now.

Bwahaha! Democrat welfare trash accusing someone outside the Obama administration of tax evasion.

What people? Who had nice jobs and made money not bleeding tax payers? Charlie Rangel? Chris "Countrywide VIP" Dodd? John Edwards paying off his baby mama? Tim "Turbo Tax" Geithner? Bill Richardson? Caroline Kennedy? Tom Daschle? Hilda Solis? Nancy Killefer?

I still think that the ultimate responsibility for the removal of the rape kits from the budget was hers to claim--Wasilla's simply not big enough for her to claim she shouldn't have done the line-by-line exam of the police chief's budget. Furthermore, she ought to have championed the undoing this policy--and her ultimate responsibility for remedying the unjustice of it--once she became aware of it. Did she??

Charles Martin has a list of Palin rumors, smears and outright lies. His version is that the Chief of Police in Wasilla (not Palin) did apparently have a policy of asking a victim's health insurance to pay for the rape kit as part of the ER visit. This, it turns out, is policy in a number of states, including Missouri and North Carolina. The way this became an issue was after the then-governor of Alaska signed a bill forbidding it; this law was signed before Palin was Governor and no one tried to reverse it while she was Governor. Third, what the CoP in Wasilla wanted to do was charge the perpetrator as part of restitution.

thanks possumdearie, for running this down. It sounds even more innocuous -- and unsurprising distorted by the anti-Sarah elite media -- than even I had postulated.

Anti-Sarah ELITE MEDIA?

You have to be 'elite'
To see through her word salads
And realize there's no there there?
Naw. Not really.
But I love the term.

Sure, you do, because you think licking their boots makes you cool. Kinda like touching the robe of a prophet, but that's crediting you with real depth.

Well said and so true.

Truth hurting Connie ??

Did you read the comment Dave?
Claims of a character assassination
Mentality are made in terms
Of character assassination.
It's funny Dave come on admit it.

Think about it... "bleeding heart" because the moral relativism is always for "the common good", some noble and shining goal of a utopian future, so the ends justify the means.

"the character assassination mentality of the Dems"

You mean like how Obama is a racist Christian [but somehow] secret Muslim terrorist communist who hates America? That kind of character assassination?

*cough* Saul Alinskey *cough*

Yes, turning young girls into sexualized jokes is dangerous. And OF COURSE you would respond with the stereotypical charges of "hysterics" -- how oinker of you.

Rape is not an ugly joke in poor taste. A weaselly and huffy non-apology is an ugly joke in poor taste.

OINK OINK SQUEAL!!!

Wanting, even in Kentucky, 14 YO is below the age of consent. It's not sex but rape. It's not a joke, it's te kind of trash we expect from guttersnipes like yourself. "Wanting" (class, decency and common sense!)

For God's sake possum-
Nobody said RAPE
Until Palin said RAPE.

If you want to randomly inject terms
Into the argument-
Why not BANK ROBBERY?
Defend her daughters because
Letterman said they were BANK ROBBERS.
Of course Dave didn't say that.
Neither did he say the word RAPE.

It's statutory rape when the girl is 14 YO, because there's no such thing as consensual sex where children are involved. 14 YO is a minor, and it's RAPE.

That never happened--get your facts straight. The Secret Service, who were present throughout the audience, said it never happened. These continual lies and distortion about Palin are repeated ceaselessly, and they are just as bad as the right wing rhetoric the Left loves to rail against. Two sides of the same coin. "Liberals" have revealed themselves to be just as intolerant and hateful as the Right can be. Congratulations for all that "open-mindedness."

Fran-
If that 'never happened'
We've all been watching some
Pretty spooky file film.
This is 2009.
You can't get away with willful denial
Anymore.
EVERYTHING is documented

I saw it we all saw it.
You can see it too.
Try the Google.

Sorry, frannie, but the Secret Service statement to which you refer was a PA rally and it was not Palin talking, but Chris Hackett. This is NOT one of the videotaped events, where it did happen. This is one person saying it happened and a SS agent, who was there, saying he didn't hear it.

Your statement is accurate with respect to that one incident only.

Fran is right.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/oct/10/na-kill-him-reports-being-probe d/

The Clearwater Rally also had only one person that heard it, a reporter, just like the the PA rally. Interesting.

fran20
You are fooling yourself. It did happen. Please see the snippets of some of these pernicious shout-outs that occurred at some of Sara Palin's "rallies" in the lead-up to the 2008 election. Shameful stuff, irrespective of where you fall on the political spectrum.

Akcita-

Fran is way wrong.

And of course
It was Gov.Palin who injected
The word rape
Into the argument for dramatic effect.

She knows the jokes were made about Bristol. After all, it's Bristol's idiotic expression that greets me every time I visit the checkout stand at the grocery store. It's Bristol's dumb visage that is on television babbling nonsense about her baby simultaneously being the most wonderful thing ever and the ruination of life as we know it. It's Bristol's empty head that scored a plum job preventing teen pregnancy, a job that will perhaps close the stable door by keeping her away from the boys she knows in Alaska.

Did anyone else notice that on the Letterman clip, Silly Palin the Elder referred to the President as "the Candidate Who Must Be Obeyed"? I did, and had the following thoughts about it:

1) he's no longer a candidate, candypants.
2) I would have thought familiarity with Harry Potter books to be a sin amongst the Palin churchy crowd. After all, they *cure* witchcraft.
3) Who among Palin's paid jokesters is bright enough to make an Obey / Shepard Fairey reference.

What DIFFERENCE does it make if it was a 14 year old or an 18 year old?! Has this country become so incredibly numb that jokes about violating young women is now justified? And for all the apologists who do not understand the connection between attitudes toward women and abuse, please "study up and shut up." Domestic violence is alive and well in this country, and there are still honor killings, stonings, and sexual trafficking around the world. This kind of rationalization from women like Tina Brown is appaling, and I am a long-time Liberal. We saw this same kind of "shut up" thrown at Hillary too, but since she is being a "good submissive" now, it's all ok I guess. Disgusting.

The context of the joke was focused on the daughter that was at the baseball game (Willow). I think Letterman's Ivy League writers are smart enough to know this.Your own apologist attitude is quite deluded and self-serving. Go ahead and believe what you will and forgive what you will, and remember it can happen to your daughter and don't be outraged then.

Hear, hear, Fran.

fran20: The joke (lame as it was) was about getting knocked up - not being violated. From all that is known, Bristol Palin was a willing partner in her knocking up. I agree with your points about domestic violence etc. but they're out of place in this context, and the context suggests you're falling for Sarah Palin's junior-varsity attempt at making a publicity mountain out of a par-for-the-course late nite drivel molehill.

In Sarah's self-centered media splurge, she is cynically playing the victim when it isn't justified, and thereby undermining and diminishing the very real plight of women and girls who truly are victims of domestic abuse and sexist attacks.

One of Tina Brown's points is that, if Sarah Palin wants power (as clearly she does), she needs to learn how powerful women comport themselves. Playing the victim and manufacturing ridiculous, petty battles in the media for personal exposure are not worthy of herself, and are not constructive for women and girls who have all-too-few positive, serious, charismatic and powerful women on the public stage at a national level.

No, jenny4hill, Palin does not need to "learn how powerful women comport themselves." She does not need to be put into a box of someone else's choosing, especially a box created by a political enemy. She should do exactly what she's doing now, being herself. She'll either look like an idiot or she won't - people will either buy her story or they won't.

Letterman said Palin's daughter was knocked up by A-Rod in the 7th inning. Which daughter was at the game? The 14 YO. Duh.

Because
It is rape
When a 14YO
Is involved

Bristol Palin was in Alaska with her baby at the time. How did she allegedly transport herself to Yankees stadium in order to serve as Dave's punchline? You people are reaching.

Letterman shouldn't have a show. He's to stupid to recognize that when you joke a bout a person being in New York, people won't realize you were actually joking about the person in Alaska!

Apparently, most of this blog follows his reasoning though. Next thing you'll tell me you can spend your way out of debt right?

You guys are sooooo deep.....

Well, stupid, he was reporting on news. It was an anecdote. "Gov. Palin was at the game with her daughter." Well, it was the 14 YO daughter, you skank.

Well possum, you would have a point, except Letterman is not the anchor of the CBS evening news but the host of the late show. It was joke, too bad you can't take it.

The US Supreme Court defined slander as:

"... slander ... may be divided into five classes, as follows: (1.) Words falsely spoken of a person which impute to the party the commission of some criminal offence involving moral turpitude, for which the party, if the charge is true, may be indicted and punished. (2.) Words falsely spoken of a person which impute that the party is infected with some contagious disease, where, if the charge is true, it would exclude the party from society; or (3.) Defamatory words falsely spoken of a person, which impute to the party unfitness to perform the duties of an office or employment of profit, or the want of integrity in the discharge of the duties of such an office or employment. (4.) Defamatory words falsely spoken of a party which prejudice such party in his or her profession or trade. (5.) Defamatory words falsely spoken of a person, which, though not in themselves actionable, occasion the party special damage.

"Certain words, all admit, are in themselves actionable, because the natural consequence of what they impute to the party is damage, as if they import a charge that the party has been guilty of a criminal offence involving moral turpitude, or that the party is infected with a contagious distemper, or if they are prejudicial in a pecuniary sense to a person in office or to a person engaged as a livelihood in a profession or trade; but in all other cases the party who brings an action for words must show the damage he or she has suffered by the false speaking of the other party."

Even Jon Stewart can't get past that definition of slander. Whether you put on a red, rubber nose and say it in public or say it behind the news desk of a network broadcast, if you defame somebody's character, it is slander.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME; WHAT SCHOOL, IF ANY DID YOU GRADUATE FROM??? I am currently interviewing prospects for a key position within one of my companies, would you like to apply that I may get some more insite to your great intellect??

jyrenejim
Your responses tell the rest of us all we need to know about the limits of your "insite."