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Chopra: Michael Jackson Could Have Been Saved

BS Top - Posner Jackson Chopra AP Photo Michael Jackson’s famed health guru, Deepak Chopra, tells The Daily Beast’s Gerald Posner about his grief, his own medical dealings with the singer—and how a simple emergency-room drug could have saved his life.

“I will not be doing any more interviews,” Deepak Chopra, the famed mind, body, wellness guru and 21-year friend of Michael Jackson, told me. “No more TV, no more print. If someone calls, I can tell them I spoke to you in depth. I just want to mourn now for my lost friend.”

Chopra will talk to the media at some point, of course, but right now he says he is emotionally and physically exhausted. In a wide-ranging interview with The Daily Beast, Chopra, a board-certified internist and endocrinologist who also formerly worked as an emergency-room doctor in Massachusetts, made several points to try to clarify the circumstances surrounding the pop star’s death. Among them:

Based on his understanding of Jackson’s final hours, a common and well-known overdose antagonist, naloxone (narcan), could have saved him.

When Chopra learned that Dr. Conrad Murray had been Jackson’s full-time concert physician and had stayed overnight, he wondered why the star wasn’t still alive.

Chopra made his own efforts to force an intervention a year ago over Jackson's drug use, with the Jackson family's knowledge and approval.

Stars get these drugs using fake names, multiple prescriptions, and complicit pharmacists.

Chopra's friendship with Michael Jackson brought him to the fore immediately after the pop star’s death, and he made known to Larry King his strong feeling that Jackson’s prescription addiction had been fed by unscrupulous doctors. The news last night that the Los Angeles Police Department had asked the Drug Enforcement Administration to officially enter the investigation must have sent a chill through dozens of Hollywood doctors who feed the drug habits of star clients. And for those who were Michael Jackson’s legal pushers, the DEA's move is indeed bad news.

“With a weak pulse, the first thing I would have given him was narcan. Its effect would have been dramatic and Michael might be alive today.”

Article - Posner Jackson Chopra Courtesy of Dilip Mehtra/Contact Press Image “But it is long overdue that someone does something about this,” Chopra said. “It’s an epidemic. Far more people die every year from prescription medicine than from illegal drugs. It is the No. 1 cause of addiction.”

Chopra, who has built an international wellness and self-help empire, says that only 1 percent of his clients are celebrities. But the public often thinks of him as a New Age wizard to the stars. And with his main Chopra Center based in Southern California, he spends a lot of time there.

He had come to have his hunches about some of the doctors who abuse their prescribing rights, but won’t name them on the record. “Not all of them are these so-called concierge doctors. Not at all,” he told me. “Many have regular practices. It is well-known that a very high percentage, maybe half, of all enabling doctors have their own prescription or alcohol problems. They have developed co-dependent relationships with their patients, and their drug-pushing has become part of their identity. By continuing to enable a famous person, as a doctor you have control over them. The star is dependent on them.”

Many people forget that the 62-year-old Chopra is a medical doctor, one heavily involved in continuing research. He cited a series of clinical studies that establish that, for some people, the heavy use of opiates causes hyperalgesia, a condition in which the drugs damage the peripheral nerves and actually increase the level of pain.

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July 2, 2009 | 12:06pm
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guiltybystander

karma is coming to get deepak

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1:19 pm, Jul 2, 2009
nickatdabeach

Chopra lost my respect & any credibility in 1981 when he joined the lib fear-mongering bandwagon, told any who would listen the Reagan budget would lead to Depression in 1982. Oh, he was a total darling on the talk show circuit for months. Really: anyone who falls for his hocus-pocus crap has serious mental issues.

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3:12 pm, Jul 2, 2009
disfasia

You have got to be kidding! The economic downturn STARTED with Reaganomics. Chopra was not only correct, he as a medical doctor knows more about economics than these Stanford educated sycophants in our governemng.

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3:35 pm, Jul 2, 2009
dahniuru

Disphasia. I'm not sure Chopra knows medicine as well as do the Stanford educated sycophants(sp?) economists. These peope keep coming out of the woodwork and become idololized by the media and then the public. It doesn't make them experts in much except some kind of charisma.

Why does Chopra (as do a lot of other tv made experts) solve the problem only after it happens?

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11:50 am, Jul 3, 2009
kiksadi50

Is it because he is a liberal that you won't listen to what he is saying about epic addiction to prescribed medication? He was off a few yrs. about Reaganomics,which did lead to financial calamity in the country. Listen to what Chopra is saying about prescription drug addiction. It is an important message. It is not about the messenger.

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3:36 pm, Jul 3, 2009
jlaxmn00

Um........I worked in the EMS field for a number of years and narcan was readily available in the field. I know the EMS protocols differ from state to state, but narcan c'mon. I can't believe the paramedics in L.A. (of all states) don't carry narcan.

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10:08 am, Jul 5, 2009

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3:19 am, Jul 7, 2009

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10:19 am, Jul 11, 2009
Margot62

I am glad Michael had someone like Deepak in his life. It didn't save him, but Michael was the only one who could save himself.

P.S. There are a great many typos in this arcticle (at least five!) If you need an editor over there at the DB, let me know! I'd be happy to offer my services!

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1:20 pm, Jul 2, 2009
slobone

I noticed that. Must have been posted in a hurry...

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8:05 pm, Jul 2, 2009
drlg12

I noticed once in a DB article that "mdash" had been spelled out, rather than there being an actual m dash. They need a good editor, definitely (note the spelling).

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9:53 am, Jul 3, 2009
outonleave

Umm... your credentials as an editor don't appear exactly impeccable, given the fact that you misspelled "article."

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10:54 am, Jul 3, 2009
AlwaysOptimistic

Hopefully something good can come out of the tragedy that was Michael Jackson. Maybe we can have a public dialogue about prescription drug abuse, which is a much bigger problem than the use of "street" drugs.

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1:43 pm, Jul 2, 2009
Nuld001

Very well reported!

Mr. Posner's in-depth interview with Dr. Chopra sure is riveting and revealing particularly about Dr. Chopra's explanation of Dr. Murray's purposeful overnight stay at Michael Jackson's home. Those comments are a huge eye opener. You can feel Dr. Chopra's anguish about Michael Jackson's situation come through in Mr. Posner's writing. What a terribly sad commentary and ending for the beloved Michael Jackson. Perhaps in the after-math of this tragedy this will get Congress's attention about these doctors who write these prescriptions. Certainly stronger monitoring and enforcement of these known prescription writing doctors who abuse their Hippocratic oath to do no harm is warranted. This is obviously a true epidemic in Hollywood that hasn't been addressed.

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2:32 pm, Jul 2, 2009
YeahISaidIt

it is an epidemic throughout much of Anywhere, Earth where you have wealthy patients and doctors who find it easier to get paid than to be completely ethical.

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5:52 am, Jul 13, 2009
Josh-Narins

Yeah, but according to Deepak, there is a soul and life after death so he _shouldn't_ be mourning the death of anyone, but celebrating their transition. After all, he'll get to this next world, too, right?

[Disclaimer: Deepak is a snake oil salesman]

Chopra quotes:

"Death isn't about what I possess but about what I can become. Today I see myself as a child of time, but I may become a child of eternity."

"[In death w]e move from one world to another, we shed our old identity to experience 'I am,' the identity of the soul, and we assemble the ingredients of a completely unique life in our next body."

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2:47 pm, Jul 2, 2009

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6:46 pm, Jul 2, 2009
amapola101

I was a very big fan Of Dr.Chopra,until I saw him at some interiew,blame our attacks, and the way we westerners,lived,and had brought it on,etc. I found him an angry man. As time went on, I concider him a guru.But not mine Chopra is an angry man, all this metaphysiscal talk,etc.there is some disconnect. This article is very well written, explained and real,.... unfortunately it happens all over,not just with stars.BUT

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3:05 pm, Jul 2, 2009
amapola101

It is very sad,MJ was physically and mentally sick. If his father was so abusive, and awfull,he did get them to adulthood a s mega stars. it is almost a shame he could not control MJ in adultlife.All that said no one could save MJ.Having been around those who want to use, if they do not want to stop,NO doctor,friend,family,no one,can stop them Especially a man with this talent,influence, and MONEY.Like Anna Nicole.If one does not get it they move on and keep on using people to do what they want for them.They are master manipulators,and ruthless and destroy anyone who does not go with them.Its very sad, but its like a Jeckyl and Hyde thing.Awfull.Rest in peace MJ

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6:42 pm, Jul 2, 2009
mwoman

That's why it's called an addiction.

This one in particular brings the worst out in people.

My husband questioned the problem of addiction to pain medication in this country. "Really," he said. "How many people do you know who have a problem like that?" At first I was silent, scanning through the people I have known, because I couldn't think of anyone at first.

Then I remembered a friend of mine, whom I had met at my older son's preschool, a Lutheran preschool, which her daughter also attended. She eventually left Illinois and returned to Iowa, and called me a year later, to tell me she had been arrested in the small town of Iowa where she lived, for breaking into the town pharmacy. She was looking for painkillers in the middle of the night!

I don't know how much time she spent in jail, but they quickly sent her to Rehab, where she spent the next year learning how to handle her addiction to pain killers. She was also diagnosed with Depression, and given antidepressants, which she expected to take for the remainder of her life. It is an ongoing struggle, I remember her saying. It follows you for the rest of your life. You are always fighting it.

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11:13 pm, Jul 2, 2009
Veronicaxy

My husband deals with the unpleasant end result of MDs lack of specialized knowledge in medication. It's too dangerous and important to leave to generalists but the AMA ensures we do perhaps because there is so much money in it?

We should go to the European system where pharmacologists or other specialists prescribe, not general purpose physicians.

It would greatly reduce the number of people who are capable of enabling drug abuse and therefore be easier to scrutinize. And make for much more knowledgeable prescribing.

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3:19 pm, Jul 2, 2009
sarabi

This article has so many typos in it, it's alarming. Someone please proofread.

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4:18 pm, Jul 2, 2009
Derida

Superstars have absolutely nothing in common with a physician. When you see a friendship develop later in life with a superrich entertainment industry type individual and a physician know that the "ask" is around the corner. They have nothing in common period. If the doctor is starstruck the manipulative addict will line up a slew of doctors providing stories, pains, fake names you name it just to get what they want.

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4:50 pm, Jul 2, 2009
amapola101

Derida,this sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo true.I had just said how manipilative these people become,or are. and its like a Jeckyl and Hyde thing

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6:47 pm, Jul 2, 2009
Logical

Which begs the question, what is in it for the physician? Mr. Chopra is not some naive teenager fainting at the sight of his favorite performer. I find both Chopra and Mr. Posner to come across as charlatans. Especially Mr. Posner whom I had the displeasure of watching on MSNBC yesterday spouting unverified rumors about Jackson.

He suggested Michael Jackson was to ill and frail to stand without help or to perform and that he was being forced to perform for the money. The video released of performance at the Staple Center completely undermined this accusation but he continued to stick with these falsehoods despite the video. I could no longer take him seriously as a journalist at that point.

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9:26 am, Jul 3, 2009
mwoman

And don't forget. This guy was a finalist for the Pulitzer, according to his website.

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11:47 am, Jul 3, 2009
dahniuru

Thanks, Derida. Imo, superstars in any arena have little commonality with the rest of us. That's why they are superstars and why I can appreciate their talent. The problems arise because far too many 'fans' need to deify superstars; to turn them into models for life in all areas instead of singing, dancing, sports, and so on.

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11:58 am, Jul 3, 2009
YeahISaidIt

what???
superstars are people, too and are just as likely to befriend a physician as his/her personal trainer or stylist. some don't, others do, but to say there have absolutely nothing is common is nonsense.

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6:13 am, Jul 13, 2009
ryokisan

Okay, this has nothing to do with the content and I'm not trying to be rude but geez, the formatting of this article is TERRIBLE! misspelled words and repeated words. Spacing issues. That stuff just really irks me when I am looking at an article that is supposed to be professional. Doesn't someone check this stuff before it is published to the site?

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5:47 pm, Jul 2, 2009
Veronicaxy

Weird isn't it? TDB has been interesting in part to see how the people with even famous by-lines struggle as much as I do. Who knew?

And with all the unemployed copy-editors running around NYC these days and the recently minted English graduates who'd happily edit for a line on their resume, there isn't an obvious excuse either.

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1:19 am, Jul 3, 2009
Melusine

Yes, I agree! Not only in this article, but many others on this website, which is supposedly more "erudite" than say, something like Gawker. They even have the name of the medication wrong: it's "naloxone."

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10:26 am, Jul 4, 2009
chlai88

Drug abuse has become a culture, a fashionable trend among doctors and users. More should be done to educate the public on this topic and more should be done also to educate and control the doctors who indulge in it.

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6:06 pm, Jul 2, 2009
SteveStone

Saved? Who wanted him saved?

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6:20 pm, Jul 2, 2009
revcat

"Who wanted him saved?" I'm sure MJ's children didn't want their daddy to die, but in some ways I think it was inevitable. There is a photo of MJ standing in front of a banner for his upcoming concert series: THIS IS IT. This of course turned out to be prophetic. Death by fame, death by drugs, the story has been told before and will be told again. In the end, Michael couldn't save himself, but with all the stuff he went through I cast no judgement. RIP, MJ

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2:39 pm, Jul 9, 2009

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6:45 pm, Jul 2, 2009
SDMichael

Spell check is an amazing thing. I hear even Microsoft is putting into their word processors now.

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7:02 pm, Jul 2, 2009
revcat

God on, oops, gde won, oops, GOOD ONE!

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2:40 pm, Jul 9, 2009
condor77x

Having watched your interview on "Countdown" your quote from Mrs. Jackson was either indirect or she is not well informed about her own belief. There are no time restrictions for the burial of love ones lost to death in regards to the soul.

This format those not lend itself to providing clarity as to the exact belief Jehovah Witness have regarding the condition of the dead. Facts about this issue can be found on the official Jehovah Witness website: www.JehovahWitness.org.

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8:40 pm, Jul 2, 2009
ebenspinoza

It's hard to take Chopra's representations of himself as a physician and a friend of Michael Jackson seriously. Physicians are ethically bound to keep the confidences of their patients and their patient's families. Given Chopra's stated effort to "force an intervention" with the Jackson Family, he should certainly have applied that standard to himself. (Chopra may argue that Michael Jackson was not "formally his patient," but that's a distinction without real meaning in this case.)

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9:38 pm, Jul 2, 2009
writerblock

Thank you, ebenspinoza - I had to stroll down pretty far to get to your posting on what I thought was the issue screaming out at us from Pozner's article. Deepak Chopra should not have spoken about anything that occured between himself and Michael Jackson because of patient-physician confidentiality. Of course, he probably thought of himself speaking as a friend but that doesn't matter. If he was his doctor and treated him at all he was his physican first and as such should not have released anything to the public, including things that were meant to be sympathetic to Jackson. He fell into the trap many doctors and patients fall into: mixing friendship and the professional relationship. Most cases don't involve television interviews about the patient but this is an extreme example of dubious medical ethics which happens frequently. (There is a great difference between being friendly with one's patient and being in a close personal relationship where you are photographed performing together and wearing matching hats.) It is ironic that Dr. Chopra criticizes his fellow physicans for falling prey to the glamour inherent in being attached to famous people (and then becoming suppliers of damaging narcotics so they can hang out with the rich and famous) when he then goes and does the same thing by being on CNN for hours talking about his patient. Bad choice, Doctor. Just because some members of the public may be interested in gory details doesn't mean that you should breach patient confidentiality to supply them.

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8:21 pm, Jul 5, 2009
mwoman

Much better reporting than your last attempt.

I wonder why Chopra says these doctors are often addicted themselves and form co-dependent relationships with their famous patients to satisfy their need to control their patients, which gives them a sense of power over them?

As for Chopra, I seem to recall something about him that perhaps lessens his credibility, but I can't remember what that is! The impression I had of him was that he was a "guru" type, popular with the famous, although the article disputes that, saying only 1% of those affiliated with his clinic were rich and famous.

Who knows? I do know there has been massive misinformation printed and broadcast about Jackson, like I've never experienced before.

These stories, based on innuendo and rumor, continue to spread, but eventually, I imagine the truth will be revealed. So far, from others who have spoken as friends of MJs, and the video of his rehearsal, don't paint the picture of man who is frail and at death's door.

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10:48 pm, Jul 2, 2009
robjh1

Believe what you know and not what you hear.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-289973

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12:59 am, Jul 3, 2009
harlowe

I swear every comment area on this board turns into political whining no matter how entirely unrelated to the article it is. Stop being such babies and try to stay on topic.

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1:00 am, Jul 3, 2009
marciav

Larry,

Does anyone know if Michael had Sleep Apnea? I have this disorder and use a CPAP machine (Continuous Positive Air Pressure) to help me breath at night. This disorder is a type of insomnia where for what ever reason, you stop breathing. There are different stages of sleep and when you start to go into a deeper sleep you stop breathing. This could be from 30 seconds to 2 and a half minutes or more at a time. At this point, your body and brain are starving for oxygen and it sends a signal to wake you up and breath. You do not realize that you are being woke up because you come back to the first stage of sleep, a lighter sleep. You never go into deep REM (rapid eye movement) sleep and you wake up feeling exhausted like you have never slept. Sometimes you wake up completely and then you cannot get back to sleep because when your body tries to sleep again, you stop breathing and wake up and the cycle continues. If Michael had undiagnosed Sleep Apnea and used other medications that forced him into a deeper sleep, then he just might stop breathing altogether. Some people have died with a more severe case of this disorder where even the signal to wake up and breath gets disrupted from the lack of oxygen to the brain.

(The CPAP machine keeps your lungs inflated with air pressure)

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5:25 am, Jul 3, 2009
SFGiants

Sixpak Chopra is nothing but a charlatan.

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7:39 am, Jul 3, 2009

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4:35 pm, Jul 3, 2009
robjh1

Hindsight is always 20/20. Easy said then done.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-289973

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8:53 am, Jul 3, 2009
darbnosnhoj

I find it very odd the same media (including CNN) that vilified Michael Jackson when he was going to trial are now memorializing him as a hero.

The dastardly job of the media is to build and tear down to get people to watch or read their crap.

Were I the Jackson family, I wouldn't let you bums within 10 miles of my property, let alone walk the grounds of Neverland.

Shame on you all.

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9:45 am, Jul 3, 2009
crabbegirl

Everyone is assuming all these drug problems and drug addiction. Why not wait for the toxicology reports to come back before slinging mud? All this reporting, from DB to CNN, must be so hurtful and awful for the family.
A great artist is dead (and he was a great artist, even if, like me, you're not a fan).
Let's just mourn him and forget the rest.

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11:08 am, Jul 3, 2009

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12:20 am, Jul 4, 2009
Beethy

I am not a Deepak Chopra fan, but his remarks on Michael (Larry King's show) were right on the mark. DEA should now far and deep. Particularly when it involves Hollywood and the its inner demons. Drug abuse and the 'enablers' quite prevalent in the Music scenario.

My heart goes out to his young children.

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