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Michael Jackson had been taking drugs intravenously for 20 years, sources tell The Daily Beast’s Gerald Posner, and among the names linked to this longstanding use is his former nurse and ex-wife, Debbie Rowe.
Michael Jackson’s corpse had the hallmarks of longtime intravenous drug use, including arms riddled with needle marks and collapsed veins, say sources familiar with the medical examiner’s preliminary findings. Buttressing this autopsy result, an employee in Jackson’s entourage during the mid to late 1980s claims she saw Debbie Rowe, a nurse for one of the superstar’s doctors and later his wife and the surrogate for his two oldest children, visiting Jackson at his home and injecting him with an unknown substance.
Given the circumstances surrounding Jackson’s death, any Rowe involvement in administering drugs could become an issue if she seeks custody of the two oldest children.
These reports of longstanding IV-drug use raise new questions about whether the pop star, who traveled with an anesthesiologist during his HIStory tour in the mid-'90s, died from the improper administration of some of the anesthesia drugs seized by investigators in his home after his death last week.
While the Los Angeles Police Department and the federal Drug Enforcement Administration are narrowing their list of enabling doctors, The Daily Beast discussed Jackson’s medical history with several people familiar with it and has uncovered new details, including a role played by Rowe’s ex-boss, Dr. Arnold Klein. On Tuesday, I reported that Elizabeth Taylor had sought help for her own prescription-drug and alcohol problems in the mid to late 1980s and that she and Jackson both patronized Klein, the Beverly Hills dermatologist who was one of her main prescription sources, based on an account she gave another physician treating her at the time. That second doctor knew Jackson as a friend, not a patient, and thought the Taylor-Klein combination could be “toxic” for Jackson, and twice warned the pop star. But Jackson, who idolized Taylor and praised Klein, would hear none of it, according to a source familiar with the conversations between Jackson and his doctor friend.
The details about Rowe solidify that account of a strong Jackson-Klein link. As a nurse working for Jackson’s treating physician, it is possible that Rowe was doing nothing more than injecting medications properly prescribed by Dr. Klein, and Rowe was merely making a house call. It is also possible that Rowe, as a personal friend and medical professional, was administering another doctor’s prescription at Jackson’s request. A source close to the police investigation told The Daily Beast that Debbie Rowe is definitely not the subject of any probe into Jackson’s demise. But given the circumstances surrounding Jackson’s death, any Rowe involvement in administering drugs could become an issue if she seeks custody of the two oldest children, as she suggested last week that she might, despite a reported $8 million payout to relinquish her parental rights. In response to calls seeking clarification on the circumstances of these injections, Rowe’s attorneys had no comment.
A Los Angeles Police spokesman refused to confirm or deny whether Dr. Klein was one of five physicians reportedly the subject of their Jackson investigation. Neither Dr. Klein nor his attorney would comment for this article. But Dr. Klein told Diane Sawyer on Good Morning America this morning that he has not been questioned by any investigators and said he was not one of the final five physicians being probed. Moreover, while not addressing any issue of early drug prescriptions to Jackson he contended, "I didn't give him the crap they are talking about....I was not one of the doctors who participated in giving him an overdose of drugs or too much of anything."








Messy.
yeah so true
Oh let's just leave all these poor people alone. The operating myths implied in The Constitution of this country would lead the guileless observer to believe that the pursuit of happiness might well include the right to get as intoxicated on any available substance as one could obtain, ingest and enjoy, not to speak of turning the innocent pursuit of a good night's sleep into a criminal act. Christ almighty life is hard enough without these censorious, self-designated, pietistic journalists and soi disant 'law-enforcers'.
Really?? So if a patient is treated with addictive drugs for a legitimate ailment, and after it's medically necessary continues to self medicate with dangerous drugs with the HELP of physicians who took an oath to "do no harm" that's ok? I'm all for personal responsibility but what we have here is a reckless disregard for human life (to be the doctor to Michael Jackson and get some of that "Thriller" money). Classic definition of manslaughter.
Getting intoxicated is a danger to society and therefore the government has every right to protect ALL the citizens from choices made by persons who could pose a threat to others, and themselves. Would you like Michael Jackson driving around in YOUR neighborhood fueled with all those drugs?
What about YOUR pursuit of happiness to be safe?
And it's about time journalists began investigating stories and following up instead of being order takers too lazy to flesh out the REAL story. If they had, we wouldn't be in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So, what's in YOUR medicine cabinet???
I'm not exactly certain what version of The Constitution you're reading, or in fact that you have ever read it, or in fact that you can read, but may I enlighten you that nowhere in that document is there anything resembling your suggestion that the government was formed to protect citizens from themselves. That's just Nanny State psychobabble. And what's in my medicine cabinet? The last time I checked the Bill of Rights is still the supreme law of the land and that being said your Orwellian self-righteous jingoism is no match to my right of privacy.
I've lived with chronic pain for 25 years and have taken Vicodin for the duration. I take up to 5 a day, I'm sure I'm dependent but I'm not addicted. I've never taken more than what is perscribed, I've never sought it from various doctors and I'm tired of people thinking that everyone that takes drugs is an addict. If you're in pain you are rarely addicted. The MSM is so obsessed with drugs that I think many people who need them don't get them. When you're in pain and you take pain meds you also don't get high. You don't know what you're talking about.
tiger is a moron, seeking to aggrandize himself through haughty and meaningless verbiage. He probably is addicted to all sorts of nasty stuff, thus his objections to Posner's writings. Good post Katie!
Artist50, I hear you. Similar experience here, only seven years instead of 25. When one has chronic pain, the meds go to the pain, not to getting high.
I hate taking pain killers because they slow me down. If I didn't have to take them, I wouldn't go near 'em.
People who have no clue, well, they just don't have a clue.
yeah, investigating sources they can't name. that is what drives me crazy. It's all rumors at this point and just because Posner says a "source close to the investigiation' said so and so doesn't mean it's true!
no...i would certainly would not like to have Michael Jackson to be on drugs rooming around like this in my neighborhood.......
Time to take a civics class, tiger73rd. The pursuit of happiness is stated in the Declaration of Independence, not the US Constitution. And the part about the Bill Of Rights being the "supreme law of the land" - well, almost . . . the US Constitution is the supreme law of this country and the Bill of Rights make up the 1st 10 amendments to that document.
Dude- "the pursuit of happiness" can't even be applied to marijuana! We gotta tippy toe around with medical (bucks for docs!) marijuana. If all drugs were legal their quality and administration could be controlled (they really want to get rid of or jail users- money for cops/ judges/ guards/legislators!) and of course, taxed- (money for all, wouldn't want that).
Why is the Daily Beast behaving like the National Enquirer with this tabloid journalist Mr. Posner. Mr. Jackson is dead and buried, time to move on to other topics and let his family grieve. Back to the economy.
You said it right, time to move on and show some respect for his family.
Right let's respect the Jacksons' family sensibilities. After all they lost a vital family member..one who has been basically supporting the whole lot of them for the last forty years.
His family didn't want to grieve. they made a big show of his death. After all, they are nothing without him. What will Jermaine and the others do now? Hmmm? It was so overkill. It was an embarrassment and every African American defended him as the 'greatest entertainer, ever'. Yeah, right.
AMEN!
There should be more debate in the country on the subject of drug addiction. Many users turn to crime to support their needs and they and their dealers fill jails to capacity. If Michael Jackson's death brings to light the horrendous toll illicit drug use inflicts on society, so be it.
You do mean the tremendous toll the illegality of drugs causes, don't you? Illegal drugs are often dirty and/or poor quality. They kill or land millions of people in hospitals costing society big bucks. If they weren't illegal they wouldn't be so costly and addicts would not need to turn to crime again costing big bucks for incarceration and causing so much tragedy on the ground. This whole debate is looked upon bass ackwards by most. Why do you think the English chose to legalize.........
The real crime is the extent to which the pharmaceutical companies rob Americans every day on prescription meds. An act which should be illegal.
We need to stop building jails so we can fill them with poor folks who turn to drugs which are supplied by the wealthy in the first place. Had an overzealous prosecutor stuck to trials for crimes where he had adequate evidence to prosecute and not tried to manufacture a case against Mr. Jackson, perhaps the quality of Michael Jackson's life been much better. He might not have tried to hide within a drug fog.
I suspect folks abuse drugs to mask pain in their lives and those are the conditions we need to address instead of jailing more and more folks. We simply warehouse humans in inhumane conditions.
PaintyKat
Amen. And isn't Gerald Posner the advocate for the "single bullet theory" in the Kennedy assassination?
Well I knew sooner or later we would be told the possible attraction and connection. How they met. Ok it doesn't sound very romantic.
I didn't think this marriage was based on lust and sexual fantasy any way, so my bubble hasn't been burst by this rather intrusive but informative article.
Geeze.
Speculate AFTER the two autopsies, please.
then why'd you read it? hoping for a rahm emanuel quote at the end?
MJ traveled with an anesthesiologist during his HIStory tour in the mid-90s? WTGDMF? That should have been a big f**king clue to his family that he needed help!
Sorry about the language but it makes me insane when someone ODs and there were obvious signs for years that this was going to happen.
Read the article on this site that is an interveiw with Deepak Chopra. He, along wit the Jackon Family tried an intervention.
Lady Sings the Blues:
The blues ain't nuthin' but a pain in yo' heart, when you get a bad start.
Who is the Thriller's killer? Joe Jackson, who abused him throughout childhood. How weird that Jacko wanted to turn custody over to his mother (and Joe Jackson).
What they say about child abuse being a cycle through generations is true. Now MJ's kids get to get disciplined by Joe Jackson!
Michael, this is you at your weirdest. . .
I agree. And Katherine Jackson, who sat by and allowed it to happen. Consistent with the cycle of family violence, I realise she might have been abused by Joe Jackson as well -- although I've not heard reports -- but, still, she was their mother, and she was an adult.
Apart from the physical abuse, it's abusive to have taken away the kids' childhoods. I wish there was some recourse against both of them.
Ain't it so? Absolutely.
I totally agree with the Daily Beast to look into this. There are doctors who make a living out of prescribing all kinds of medication to their unsuspecting patients, many of whom become addicted to those meds. There are several (unrelated) investigations in southern California about doctors who have addicted THOUSANDS of patients to pain killers. This practice must be stopped, and maybe MJ's death will be the catalyst to some restrictions on prescribing these types of meds.
Please. Keep digging.
just how do thousands of people unwittingly get addicted to painkillers? I have had them many times, when the pain went away, I stopped taking them, or if it didn't i went back to the doctor, usually they didn't prescribe too many more. people keep taking them because they want to, they like the way they feel, and they increase the dosage as well, to keep feeling that way, then they go doctor shopping to keep getting more and more of them, that is usually the initial doctor's fault.
Mr. Posner's continued in-depth revelations have provided us with tantalizing clues and has started to connect the dots that paints a grim picture of Michael Jackson surrounding himself with the enablers. Certainly Debbie Rowe and Elizabeth Taylor should be part of the official investigative process. We need to watch closely the antics of those to be indicted. It will be extremely interesting to see how the two separate autopsies match up or don't. Great reporting, Mr. Posner! Keep going.
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I also think Mr. Posner's reporting has always been top notch.
Sad. I knew he was strange, but how sad that the poor man wanted to be literally anesthetized...he must have been very lonely and very depressed.
Too bad he couldn't use his money to hire personal chefs, trainers and spiritual gurus to help get there naturally.
Really sad.
Wikipedia lists Rowe's occupation as "medical assistant" but unless she is a qualified RN, it would be illegal for her to give a patient injections.
I keep seeing Ms Rowe referred to as a "nurse" or a "registered nurse", yet the state of CA has no licensure on file for such a person, and her education is listed as high school diploma. If this is true, she is at most a medical assistant, and not a professional nurse as keeps getting erroneously reported. Even as an RN (or any other health care professional) it would be illegal if not unethical to give a patient unecessary medications.
Posner, is it true Rowe is not a nurse? And, in California at least, is it true that "unless [Rowe] is a qualified RN, it would be illegal for her to give a patient injections"?
Madame Defarge and AuntieLola are making very important distinctions. Please follow up on their leads! Thanks.
If she's a Physician's Assistant (PA), she could be accredited not only to administer but to prescribe. At least in Colorado.
hasn't she only ever referred to herself as the dermatologist's "receptionist"? not everyone who works in a doctor's office is a PA or a medical "assistant." if you can answer a phone, look up files, file insurance claims, greet patients - that's a reception or secretarial job. if she then actually did administer drugs in any form, without a license or certified training, well, then, yup - that's illegal.
oh! so the press got to know now, you guys want to sell trash even after his death, get a life you people.
Come out of your dream state and off of your cloud. Poor little rich boy dies and leaves a huge mess for his family, and a funeral the people of California are asked to pay for--that makes it public and makes him fair game. He did live in the limelight, sweetie, and that's the price he paid.
I think Gerald Posner's reporting is always top shelf, no matter what the story is.
This is an episode of "Law and Order." The title "Thriller Killer." McCoy would have a field day with ALL of those doctors, and the ex wife.
Briscoe: "The man had it all, but apparently that wasn't enough."
Love it.
Yeah, and isn't truth stranger than fiction?
Who knew a famous person would end up addicted to anesthetics that are administered using an IV, and marries the administering nurse of the doctor who perscribed the drugs, and has two kids by this nurse, but uses the sperm of the doctor, and the nurse did not know that the sperm came from her boss.
Does MJ sound weird to you? Doh!
You said it! Why is everyone so willing or needy to excuse this spoiled brat (even if he was black) for his excesses and self-centered lifestyle? He bought those kids and all of this so-called friends and physicians.
Thank you!
I do not think that alot of people realize how hard it is to help someone who is addicted to something. In most states you can not force someone to get help, counseling unless a court orders it even if that person is a minor. I can't imagine how hard it would be if that person was surrounded by paid bodyguards.
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Amen!
Ok. Enough already. Another megastar burns out. LA spends too much money trying to determine the cause of death and won't be able to prove who dunnit. It is all a farce. The tastful but over the top memorial. The children, with make-up so dark that they blended in with Michael Jackson's siblings. The oldest boy with dyed hair. Come on folks. Let's pay attention to the real world .
I don't see anything on these kids faces that looks like makeup. Honestly, they just look like normal kids to me, and the youngest looks lost and sad.
Crap all over MJ if you please, but leave the kids out of it. (Won't SOMEbody please think of the children!!??--channeling a little Simpsons here...)
http://www.sodahead.com/question/467475/michael-jackson-kids-not-his-do- michael-jacksons-kids-deserve-inheritance-money/?link=ibaf
Remember, these kids would not have existed had not the doctor, nurse and the "purchaser" all agreed to contrive this "alternate reality" (virtual) parenthood. We live in a dangerous world when a child is something (not a "someone") any rich wacko Jacko can purchase by putting together some sperm here and an egg there because he has the money and can thus influence his weak "friends" to get what he wants: white children. (By the way, if he was not ashamed or unhappy about being black, why didn't he get two blacks together to "make" these kids?) These kids are doomed to have emotional problems; could he really provide a normal life for any child? Furthermore, the very father he claims to have abused him is in control of their lives, too.
MJ was truly out there: regardless of how much money he had to blow and and how many millions of people think he is a god because he was a gifted singer and dancer, it will not change the fact that he was truly a sick individual. Had he been less wealthy, he would probably have spent his life in an asylum medicated with plenty of legal drugs. Get real!
pclayton--you're wrong on many levels.
The kids are not in Joe's control. He and Mrs. Jackson have been separated for many many years and live completely apart.
The kids are not "doomed" to have emotional problems--that will depend on what happens next, and it may turn out just fine--you don't know. It's even possible that MJ WAS a good father--all accounts are that he was great with children (and you know what I *don't* mean by that) and a very compassionate and sensitive, albeit strange, man. The kids may be just fine--you don't know! You will never know unless you become part of their lives, which isn't going to happen!
Just because a child was conceived in a test tube rather than a womb doesn't diminish them, or make the world "dangerous".
Granted, it's a bit odd that he wanted white children, but if one really believes that skin color is meaningless, and that "it doesn't matter if you're black or white", then it shouldn't be a problem, right?
Or do you think that black kids should only have black parents, and vice-versa? Because I would disagree...
Pclayton, I can only reply with what Al Sharpton said to his children. "There was nothing strange about your daddy, what was strange is what your daddy had to deal with". I am so glad that you are SO positive about your theories on Jackson.
@Jessica,
Nice response to pclayton.
what? children with make up on? It's amazing to me that we are all so willing to believe all the crazy rumors, but the IDEA that the children might not actually have dark skin is just...ridiculous, they must be wearing make up. That is so silly!
The fact that Michael was a prescription drug addict since he was burned filming that Pepsi commercial 20 odd years ago was not hidden. There is no doubt he lived with chronic pain from those injuries, as well as lupus erythmetosus. I've yet to meet a person who has become dependent on prescription drugs to treat valid conditions (myself included) who intended to become an addict, but, intention has little to do with it, it is simply the logical result of chemical dependency.
Drs. need to closely monitor their patients who they know rely on pain meds and educate them as to the devastating long-term effects on their liver and kidneys of chronic daily use. I am not denying that pain medication is often times necessary to those of us who suffer with painful conditions, as I suffer from chronic, daily migraines, but, regardless of the very real pain I must live with, the answer is not to knowingly destroy my vital organs with meds....
mj may you rest in peace and god bless the children
my thoughts and my prayers are always with you and your family.
I've seen the needle
and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's
like a settin' sun.
--Neil Young
Sorry, but this is just a sign we have no clue about what the real problems in this world are today. If Mikie did, or didn't, was or wasn't, who gives a shit.
Let it bleed, let it die--in peace.
I've read numerous reports, statements, theories and alleged first person accounts purported as truth about the megastar. All have been conflicting, conflating events and gossip into what appears to be nothing more than an arbitrary, sometime summarily condensed, mythology: IE, the kids' biological father; he had a GF for 10 years/ he had many clandestine affairs with men; he took the lethal drugs to get out of the O2 concerts believing Murray, during his rounds, would save him in time. There's certainly more to come what with all the people crawling out of the woodwork eager for their 15 minutes each with axes to grind; money to be made; egos to be inflated. Conjecture, instead of fact, continues to define the man in the mirror.
I can relate to the desperation some people feel when they are in pain. I have inoperable discogenic disease and arthritis of the spine. Today I will take 8 Vicodin 7.5mg. It is the only way I can stand or walk. I went to a pain clinic and they added more and more until I was "nutty" but pain free and will never do that again. Yes, Pain meds can slow one down but I began crosswords and games like Tetris to keep alert. It has worked and now I can function. There have been nights that if I had the money etc. I would probably do what Michael did. Poor soul, I can empathize with him.
Thank you.
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