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My Message for Michelle Malkin

Meghan McCain, Michelle Malkin Getty Images; Newscom The Daily Beast's Meghan McCain on why the far-right pundit, who says McCain needs to shut up, won’t be getting her wish—and why telling moderates to get out of the party is bad for the GOP.

Michelle Malkin, the conservative pundit and author of the recent book Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies, was asked during a live chat on Politico’s The Arena on Friday which conservative political figure or commentator needs to shut up. Guess who her answer was? Yeah, that’s right—yours truly.

If people like Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter think they can bully me into giving up this fight and what I am doing, they are going to be severely disappointed.

So Michelle Malkin successfully rounds out the trifecta of extreme female conservative pundits, following Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter, who believe that I, and Republicans like me, need to shut up and get out of the party. Is this surprising? Not really, given my father’s complicated history with the extreme right of the GOP. But what confuses me is this: Malkin recently posted an item on her blog about how “drowning out opposing views is simply un-American.”

What do Malkin and the other conservative pundits hope to accomplish by arguing that people “like me” have no place within the Republican Party? And who exactly are people “like me”? Young people? Moderate people? Young female people? People with tattoos who go to biker rallies?

The Republican Party should be a place for all kinds of people, and I hope my fellow moderates come to see that the party is the place for them, too. With every day of the Obama administration, I am more convinced that my political party is the one with the better ideals. The recent Cash for Clunkers mess is a classic example of an issue that that Michelle and I agree on.

However, I am consistently asked why I would want to stay in a party that has members so angry about my involvement. It’s as simple as this: I idealistically believe in the Republican Party, and I also have an emotional connection to it. But if the party continues to demand that people leave, I guarantee you that they will. If you tell people there is no place for them, they aren’t going to fight for their right to stay. They are going to rush into the open arms of the other team.

I don’t know exactly what about me threatens them so much, other than that people are listening to me. Malkin has the No. 1 book on The New York Times bestseller hardcover nonfiction list, but I have nearly twice as many Twitter followers as she does. And trust me, Twitter is more of an indication of where young people are than books published by the hyper-conservative publisher Regnery—which will be bringing you Carrie Prejean’s new book and published one of Ann Coulter’s.

There is a place for the far right in this party, Malkin included, and I respect their right to be heard. But the Republican Party will continue to lose elections unless we start reaching out in a more effective way to people my age and to moderates. Barack Obama won the last election on the slogan “Yes We Can,” and there is no reason why Republicans can’t go forth and win elections with equally positive messages. We will not get anywhere by continuing to sell hate and fear. Of course, there is always going to be a fraction of the GOP that is going to respond to that, but at some point we have to start facing the reality that hate and fear will only get us so far. Those emotions are not sources for inspiration of joining anything, let alone supporting a political party.

The old conservatives of the past need to start accepting that this is a new era and I am a part of a new generation. I am as sick of the infighting as everyone else, but I would like to point out that I am not the one starting this fight or demanding that the other half of the party leave.

It’s true that Democrats make being a member appealing in a much different way than the Republican Party does. The Democrats seem to have mastered inclusiveness—whereas Republicans, like a country club, seem to require a litmus test. But if people like Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter think they can bully me into giving up this fight and what I am doing, they are going to be severely disappointed. And I can assure them that unless they start being realistic about the cultural and generational differences between the two sides of the party, there will not be a new generation of Republicans.

Meghan McCain is a columnist for The Daily Beast. Originally from Phoenix, she graduated from Columbia University in 2007. She is a New York Times bestselling children's author, previously wrote for Newsweek magazine, and created the Web site mccainblogette.com.


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11:33 pm, Aug 10, 2009
sweatingbanshee

People want you to shut up because you don't have anything worthwhile to say.

Oh, you love guns? But you say only the "qualified" can have them? What regulations do you oppose? Do you support any?

You love bikers? Who the hell cares?

Oh, you support gays? Why not propose ideas for how Christians and gays can live together in harmony under conservative government without imposing on each other's ideals? Why do you buy into the meme that preserving the traditional definition of marriage is purely motivated by hate?

"And trust me, Twitter is more an indication of where young people are than books published by the hyper-conservative publisher Regnery"

People like me follow you on Twitter to see what stupid thing you are going to say next. You can't congratulate yourself because more people click "Follow" and get free updates about all the drivel you spout every day. People who feel about Michelle Malkin the way I feel about you aren't going to read her book, but they might read her blog. And her twitter page is basically nothing but links to her blog while your twitter page is a wealth of worthless dreck. Since her blog is infinitely better than yours, I think she clearly has greater claim to of conservative authenticity. You are pathetic to claim superiority because more people (mostly libs) follow your twitter page than hers when she can actually SELL something like a book to hundreds of thousands of people.

"I would like to point out that I am not the one starting this fight"

You are the one who started your lame blogging career by attacking Ann Coulter. I think one might call that "starting this fight." You have no ideas and offer no criticism of Democratic proposals and nothing but criticism of various Republicans that either never noticed you or simply find you tiresome. Hardly anyone would care about you if HotAir and HuffPo didn't link you every time you say something stupid on this website.

You want the Republican Party to have a positive message. Where the hell is YOUR positive message?




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12:25 am, Aug 11, 2009
keepakeeper43

@sweat.
Go Wipe Your Mouth.
You're drooling hate.
(And Shut Up)

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1:35 am, Aug 11, 2009
Hyokano

sweatingbanshee, look at your message. Look at yourself in a mirror. Your conscience is drenched in anger. The far-right is overtly radical because they are so intolerant, which is the same impression I get from you. If we had a conservative government, I think worse things than socialism would arise. Calm your ass down; We're all entitled to our opinions but we can express them with etiquette.

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3:13 am, Aug 11, 2009
proadventurer

Look how much time you spent telling Meghan off. Your the waste and your comment about Christians would make Jesus sick. Jog on, loser. & Keep talkin' Meghan!

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3:28 am, Aug 11, 2009
Ritarita

I agree Banshee.
Everything MM does is
Contrived for the purpose of
Getting attention and racking up clicks.
Pretty shallow stuff-
If her name was Jones instead of McCain
She would be laughed out of town.
Maybe she should suspend
Her popularity campaign
And go to Washington
To work on the economic crisis
For a while.

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8:08 am, Aug 11, 2009
Angelight

Dear sweatingbanshee,
You are sick! Too bad for you that you have blinders on. Meghan is a rare, wonderful person to be doing what she is to help America.
Please see a doctor-quick!
Miss. Wisdom

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9:03 am, Aug 11, 2009
DavidF

Sweat- this is exactly what Meghan is talking about.... good show. I feel dirty just reading it.

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9:21 am, Aug 11, 2009
TavernWench

Ah, yes, Michelle Malkin. The woman who once was so enraged that Democrats wanted to expand health insurance for uninsured children that she drove to the home of little Graeme Frost, peered through his windows, decided his family didn't look poor enough, and then blogged about it ad nauseum.

That's when I realized GOPers who are Malkin supporters had clearly left the reservation, and had just become cruel, selfish jerks. The blogger John Cole (a former conservative blogger who wrote for Pajamas Media) cites the day Malkin blogged about Graeme Frost as the day he officially left the GOP and registered as a Democrat.

Keep up the good work, Malkinites. And as much as I disagree with a lot of what Meghan McCain thinks, if you want to grow the party, you'll listen to her.

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9:24 am, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

That's funny, TavernWench. You didn't have a problem with a government bureaucrat in Ohio using her job at CPS to dig up tax records on Joe the Plumber, a single father who just asked candidate Obama about tax policy. You didn't think that was "peeking through curtains" and deciding who was rich or poor enough? If Meghain McCain thinks the GOP needs a bigger tent, she can lend them her underwear.

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10:25 am, Aug 11, 2009
rogersnowden

Oh, Meghan. You are so full of yourself. You would be shocked to realize how few conservatives judge you by your tattoos, or attendance at biker rallies.

The problem with you is, you are not really a conservative at all. Thus, you are in fact irrelevant to the discussion.

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10:30 am, Aug 11, 2009
stirps7776

Great post!!! If it were not for the fact she is a tool for a biased media and her father's infamy no one would pay attention to this woman except some drunk frat boy looking to get laid. Her political commentary is regurgitated nonsense.

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10:42 am, Aug 11, 2009
mike2lane

aptly named, "banshee."

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10:47 am, Aug 11, 2009
BetsyM

Who the hell do you think you are sweatingbanshee, mr republican? I think not. The right wing unfortunately is trying desperately to take the republican party over, which they did for awhile.

Your comment to Meghan is offensive and basically just full of insults.

As long as the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Levin, Savage, Cunningham, Ingraham, Coulter and Malkin are in the party and have the voice and have the airwaves to spew their hatred et al, there will be no positive message.

I've been a Republican for 50 years and when Eisenhower was in office that was the true Republican party. Nixon was probably the only republican environmentalist to ever be in office.

When the republican party decides they don't need you right wing loonies anymore then maybe this party has a chance. Right now they are narrow minded and only want to move backwards.

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10:55 am, Aug 11, 2009
TigerPaws

I am totally convenced that the current Republican Party has no new ideas, no vision, no leadership and is very short sighted in how to address the long term needs of the American people.

I have been a life long Repblican, raised in the South, moderate connservative by nature and had NEVER voted for a Democrat until this past election. The Replublicans have done nothing but reinforce the "wise" decision I made to vote a straight Democratic ticket.

I am married to a Canadian and spend lots of time in that "hot bed" of socialism and evil north of our border. My God, I must have seen hundreds fall dead in the streets of Toronto due to their "evil" health care system. But not to worry, the elderly were swept off the streets evey night.

I can't wait to come home, we have been gone the last thirty days and that has given me a chance to look at the Republican Party from afar. My first trip will be to the Court House to switch my party affiliation to independent. MM, I applaud your fight, wish you luck but you are out gunned, will be out yelled and out hated.

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11:10 am, Aug 11, 2009
Fuzzlenutter

Wow SweatingBanshee,

That was so well written and so bloody true! Meghan Mccain is nothing but a running joke to this conservative. I tip my hat to you, sir or ma'am!!

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11:14 am, Aug 11, 2009
Luckedout

This was word for word what I was going to say. Ms. McCain likes to spout her authenticity of being a young hip chick who happens to be Republican by attacking the far right loons, but then claiming afterward to agree with them on a lot of issues. Guess what? If you don't come up with actual opinions and contribute to the conversation, then you only become entertainment. Which is what you are, a sideshow.

I'm young, I have tattoos, I don't agree 100% with the far right wing, I can get a Twitter following, and I'm a Republican. Am I qualified to take your spot Ms. McCain? Nope, because my last name isn't McCain and that's pretty much why you're here.

Malkin was telling you to shut-up because you aren't helping to push the Republican party in the right direction by coming up with ideas and solutions, only attacks against it. I agree that we need better inclusion, better solutions. So why don't you come up with a few ideas and positively promote them rather than keeping with the shtick of bashing far right women? oh... that's right... you'll lose your links from the far left blog sites who use you as evidence of their party being the better party. Heck, read some of the comments below and you can see that you are not helping!

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11:42 am, Aug 11, 2009
TigerPaws

"Joe The Plumber" now there is a leader for us. Think a Republican Admn might put him in charge of the Small Business Administration? My heavens how the GOP has fallen----what a disgrace!

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11:51 am, Aug 11, 2009
whatchutalkinbout

Amen Sweatingbanshee. I try not to even click on these stories as to not encourage anyone to pay this dumbass woman to write anything.

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12:23 pm, Aug 11, 2009
tonyjenson

Why don't far right Republicans like smart, outspoken women?
I disagree with Meghan McCain on a lot! But I like a working mind that doesn't just repeat talking point memos to write books?
If Ms. McCain was ever to speak in front of a Progressive Audience, I'd be there listening and telling anyone that interrupts to let her speak!
If someone is trying to keep you from being heard it's probably because you are trying to speak the truth they don't want to hear!

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1:10 pm, Aug 11, 2009
crushliberalism

Meggie Mac is nothing but a snotty, self-absorbed, bratty, party favor who feels entitled to things not because of anything she has accomplished (which is nothing), but because of who boinked her mom. She will never work an honesty day in her life. We could definitely use 100% fewer of 'those' people in the Republican party.

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1:38 pm, Aug 11, 2009
liberaljesus

You are the reason so many have left the gop, including me 13 years ago. Your idea of a perfect republican isd a person who hates all liberals and anything President Obama proposes. You and what's left of the whacked out gop are a disgrace and embarrassment to this country and the once fine and respectable party that was one a Grand Old Party. No more. Now it is the gutless opinionated party for the lost, scared and confused. You lost the election Losses have consequences. Get over it and stop running around with your guns because if you think you'll regain power at the end of a barrel, you are sorely and ignorantly mistaken.

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2:54 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

Why do I get the feeling LiberalJesus has never voted Republican except for maybe Reagan's first term. Oh, well. Who cares?

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3:13 pm, Aug 11, 2009
nickatdabeach

Obozo is lower than a used car salesman in his pitch in N.H, today, just lie after lie, but more importantly, please pass this along to other blogs if you agree: NO healthcare reform: 1)- with illegal alien coverage 2)- without lawyer tort reform 3)- and so you know, the stimulus plan money just sits there now to bribe politicians with special projects to get this deathcare insurance plan passed -- any legislator who supports any of the above will have a short tenure as elected representative. Stay tuned.

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3:45 pm, Aug 11, 2009
elldeen

You sound just like one of the wingnuts who have taken over the Republican party. No wonder you lost the last election! You turn people off with your stupidity, ignorance, intolerance and fear tactics; and you guys are going to be the death of the G.O.P. unless the moderate Republicans do something to take it back! Go Meagan!

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6:51 pm, Aug 11, 2009
elldeen

Hey,"nickatdabeach" - Why don't you stop posting the same dumb s**t over and over again?!

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6:57 pm, Aug 11, 2009
AlanD2

possumdearie: The way the Republican party has been going lately, Meghain McCain's underwear will be more than enough for the GOP.

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7:52 pm, Aug 11, 2009
OPechanga

I'm afraid Meghan thinks too much of herself.Malkin, Ingrahan don't even THINK about you that much.

Get some credibility first Meghan on your conservative credentials.Having a dad in the party doesn't make you credible.Start standing up for the party, earn it.

I don't hate you, I don't hate Paris Hilton either, and she has no credibility on running a hotel either but her grandfather did....Keep writing

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8:41 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

Not that Republicans want Meghan McCain's underwear, but you remind me of the difference between Democrats and Republicans -- skidmarks. But it's a step up from the diapers you nanny statists are sporting.

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9:40 pm, Aug 11, 2009
timidan

sweetingbansee.
You sound like a bitter old fool. Megan is right.Malkin and her ilk sounds like bitter gals gone wild. I am a Republican and l cringe at what l hear and read of these goons and your likes say and write. Why destroy the GOP for the generation to come? Because a few bitter idiots like you follow Meghan " to see what stupid thing you are going to say next." show the extent of being far from reality and sensibility that your idiot ilks have degenerated to. These misplaced bitter energy ought to be diverted into mapping out ways the GOP canbe inclusive and truly represent the Ameriacn people without loosing the good Christian values. Old bitter hypocrite and nuts should be rid off from GOP. People like Megahn are the future of GOP even though l do not agrere with all her views.
Mr sweatingbanshee, you still have a lot to sweat about. Moderates are taking over the GOP and the rightful place of the party at the WH nad national helm of affairs.
Go Meghan!!

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10:47 pm, Aug 11, 2009
sophia5

"Malkin has the No. 1 book on The New York Times bestseller hardcover nonfiction list, but I have nearly twice as many Twitter followers as she does. And trust me, Twitter is more of an indication of where young people are"

Like, Oh My God, you are slammin' Meghan.

So that means you can "Tweet" in little snippets
with thousands of anonymous bloggers afflicted with
A.D.D. (Attention Deficit Disorder).

Like. Fer sure.
You, are like, so much deeper than some informed best selling author,
who actually has a clue about politics with historical perspective.

Keep tweeting. You go girl.

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8:25 am, Aug 12, 2009
MariosRight

possumdearie is typical of todays repubs. All noise and insult, but nothing of substance to contribute to intelligent discourse. You are your own and your party's worst enemy and that is why you are both doomed.

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9:36 am, Aug 12, 2009
MariosRight

Joe the Plumber (name not joe and not really a plumber) put himself front and center and embraced the limelite. That made him fair game for a background check just like any other public figure. Wonder why we never saw his birth certificate?

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9:41 am, Aug 12, 2009
Downriver

Good Post sweat you pretty much make Ms McCain's point, that idiots like you are going to make the party totally irrelevant,

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9:41 am, Aug 12, 2009
sweatingbanshee

You guys think I make Meg's point by pointing out that she lies, that she makes stupid claims with regard to her popularity, that she has no conservative credentials and does not blog about any topics important to conservatives except to offer vague support, that she never criticizes the left but only the right, and that she's more popular on the left than on the right?

I genuinely want to know, what conservative positions does Meghan McCain have? She doesn't support gun bans (but probably does want more regulations like her dad does)? She calls herself pro-life but thinks that it's okay to kill an unborn child based on the sins of his father? She, uh, likes bikers? Why should anyone take her seriously as a conservative commentator?

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10:50 am, Aug 12, 2009
MariosRight


She, uh, likes bikers? Why should anyone take her seriously as a conservative commentator?

Liking bikers excludes you from the repub party? Another group of voters not wanted? I am happy to pass on your post to some of the major biker websites. Sturgis, Daytona, Myrtle Beach, etc.
Anyone else that should be excluded?

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11:49 am, Aug 12, 2009
southernbutnotstupid

Geez, dude, take your meds!!!

Didn't your mother teach you any manners? Why is the right wing so virulently angry and violent? (Kill him!")

After the election, my brother made a statement to me that, since we had a little land, we'd better plant us a big garden to grow food to survive the coming downfall of civilization as we know it (he's not a survivalist; he is a well educated, successful businessman) - some friends of ours stated after the election that there was going to be anarchy--where in the world does this apocalyptic surety come from but the talking heads of the right wing?

There's not going to be a revolution; there's not going to be an overthrow of the government; you're life hasn't changed one iota from a black president - it changed because of the recession, which events started a long time before the 2008 election--

You angry, angry extremists need to take some anger management classes--

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3:47 pm, Aug 12, 2009
sweatingbanshee

No, I'm not saying that she can't be a conservative because she likes bikers. Likewise, I'm not saying she can't be a conservative because she likes guns, or because she claims to be pro-life. I'm saying that she has no conservative credentials because liking bikers has nothing to do with politics, liking guns has little to do with how much you'll fight against onerous federal gun regulations, and how calling yourself pro-life doesn't give you conservative credentials when you don't have any ideas. Meghan McCain has no message for conservatives except "I don't like those women on the 'far right.'"

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5:11 pm, Aug 12, 2009
MondoBizzaro

It seems that Mr. Sweatingbanshee (and many others here who are Republican/Conservatives) have forgotten the great Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican."

Ok, ok... it was actually former California Republican Party chairman Gaylord Parkinson who came up with the 11th commandment, but it was Reagan who made it famous. As quoted in the great movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - "When the legend becomes fact, print the legned".

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1:05 pm, Aug 14, 2009
sweatingbanshee

Mondo, are you saying that Meghan McCain is exempt from the commandment about criticizing other Republicans, but I am not allowed to criticize her when she criticizes other Republicans? You don't get to use your party registration as a shield against criticism when you have offered no genuine reason why you wear that party label. Meghan will probably be voting for a Democrat for president in 2012 and has given no reason why we should take her seriously as a conservative.

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1:12 pm, Aug 14, 2009
MondoBizzaro

Banshee... I was being facetious. And your correct to criticize Miss Meghan's lack of validation to her arguments... I think her heart is in the right place, but she hasn't the experience to back it up. But Malkin, Coulter and Ingraham attaked/criticized her... she's rebutting, not attacking/criticizing. I don't believe Miss Meghan has ever attacked/criticized any GOP member by name (except Audra Shay... but even Reagan broke the 11th Commandment to attack Gerald Ford in the 1976 election). She has criticized the party as a whole for their refusal to let go of their ultra-conservative religious values that make them seem out of touch with anti-gay, anti-abortion sentiments, etc, and have those with opposing views (like the "Log Cabin Republicans"), not be shunned from the party or called "RINOs". I think she is right in this apsect. If the GOP wants to return to power, they need to embrace the moderates and focus on the aspects of the party that we all agree on: traditional views on economic liberty, fiscal conservatism, personal responsibility, policies supporting business, free markets and strong unilateralism in national defense and defense spending. Miss Meghan just needs to learn to convey these arguments in a more professional, informed manner. But hey, she's only 24 and still learning. Would she be able to get this "on the job training" had her surname not been McCain??? Absolutely not. But as in life, it's never what you know, it's who you know.

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3:33 pm, Aug 14, 2009
FranklinW

sweatingbanshee -- great post.

the problem with Megan McCain is that she is as DUMB AS A BOX OF DIRT. she didn't fall far from the tree.

this chick barely got through college and yet some believe she ability to offer insightful opinions about what is best for our country -- LOL.

mcCain couldn't read a book let a alone write a book. as a result, she no doubt believes reading books are a waste of time as well.

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12:25 pm, Aug 15, 2009
sweatingbanshee

Mondo

Sorry I didn't catch your sarcasm.

The problem with Meghan is that she puts up silly posts about her "war" or her "beef" with this or that female conservative that isn't concerned about her so much as thinks she's a pathetic joke.

It would be nice if for once she'd declare "war" on Barack Obama's agenda. But apparently she's unconcerned if the government wants to take over health care. She probably doesn't care of the feds want to close the "gun show loophole." She seems unconcerned about bailout after bailout. She's apparently not concerned that the unions are trying to get the power of the federal government behind them to enforce terms.

So basically she's a fraud pretending to be a Republican and talking about her support for gay rights. Great.

You know, I agree that the Republican Party needs to be the freedom party, and instead of pandering to the statist goals of the social conservatives, we need to empower them to raise and educate their children as they please without imposing their views on the entire country. That said, I can't make that claim with any credibility unless I show that I'm committed to the issues that would truly make the Republican Party the freedom party: abolishing more and more gun laws, particularly at the federal level, keeping the federal government out of the health care and insurance industries, ending the bailouts, auditing the Federal Reserve, keeping taxes low, etc.

Why is it that those at the GayPatriot blog can post several times a day about issues important to Republicans in general and about issues affecting the rights of homosexuals, while Meghan can barely find the time every two weeks or so to write another stupid missive at a Republican who finds her to be pathetic or some brainless fluff about bikers or vague support of guns? And her twitter feed is just as worthless. She tweets stupid stuff about all the haters and what she's doing and her sex life and nothing about politics because she seemingly doesn't care about anything important to Republicans. So why she is employed by The Daily Beast I have no idea.

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2:32 am, Aug 18, 2009
topdocjim

Just keep it up. It is people like you who convinced me I didn't want to be part of the Repuglican (no, that's not a typo) party any more. Obama was not my first choice, but when the GOP is reduced to nominating people like Sarah Palin for VP just to get the hate vote, I'm gone. For good. You can say, "Fine!" if you want, but remember, everybody who switches sides takes his vote with him.

People like you are reducing the GOP to a core group of fringe lunatics. Enjoy your company; you deserve it.

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9:16 am, Sep 1, 2009
brooklynlib

Problem is you're wrong about how to identify a conservative. I'm a liberal but have several friends who identify as conservatives and are registered as Republicans. They do not fit your narrow description here. Of course these are reasonable, kindly people with advanced degrees. Not uneducated birthers or tea baggers or pro-life assassins or racists. Perhaps you were just never aware the Republican party has actually always included people who don't mind at all if gays get married.

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2:33 pm, Sep 14, 2009
Mike5482

I couldn't agree with you more, especially on the traditional defintition of marriage. Like, what exactly does Meghan mean by being an "open minded christian?"

I laughed at her Twitter vs Michelle Malkin's book comment. I don't like Michelle Malkin that much either, but smart people read books. Is she trying to say that young people are dumb like herself and don't read?

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7:12 pm, Nov 3, 2009
innovations

Meghan you can be confusing at times. You speak absolutely the truth about Coulter and Malkin. But then you throw your jabs at the Dems. Obama did not win on his 'Yes We Can" slogan, His slogan was actually "Change We Can Believe In". I can tell you why your dad lost--two words--Sarah Palin.
Michelle Malkin is a self -conniving, lost-in-space inane drone. Whoever even sides with this person should be snatched off the streets and taken straight to the Mayo Clinic and undergo 12 years of psychiatric study, analysis, and electro-shock.I'd get better information out of George Bush and that's being nice.
But I like you Meghan, I respect your integrity, so I'll exclude you from the Mayo Clinic list for agreeing with Malkin on the Cars For Clunkers. The CforC program seems to be doing well. $1 billion in funding was mostly used up within the first week by consumers trading in older vehicles for more fuel-efficient models. At a 4,000 avg max rebate, thats 250,000 cars. Nearly half the cars purchased under the CARS program were made by Detroit's Big Three--125,000 cars. And as per Consumer Reports: "Cash for Clunkers was a runaway success, accomplishing months worth of stimulus in just days.". If you think 125,000 people walked in with cash to the pay the difference on a new car and the clunker rebate, then maybe you and Malkin should hang out more.
What does this mean for the U.S.? It means that if 1/4 (31,000 /- or so ) of Detroit's Top Three all walked into a dealership with cash, there was still 94,000 buyers that financed. And this program lasts until November. The U.S. gets a profit cut form the foreign cars since most of the Foreign car factories are in the US. Finance involves banking and interest. The interest on the financed new vehicles is within 7-10% based on 48 months. By the time one car is paid up, our struggling banks would be making $2,800 if every car was sold for $10,000 after the trade in. Using the formula @ 7%x48mos 10,000 * .07 * 48=$2,800. Thats $263,200,000 in interest for the banks on the Detroit's Top Three 94,000 cars.. Everyone comes out winning. The Top 3, the banks, and the customer. We come out winning more because when the traded in cars get scrapped, that's scrap that can be used to build more cars saving overhead for the factories. But remember this is based on $10,000. People are buying $20,000, $30,000 cars. The Ford Focus sold the most last month at 21,000 cars. And their prices start at $16,000. So the bank profits as well as The Top 3 is actually higher.
Now getting back to the Michelle Malkin, this is a delusional person who thinks Rachel Ray, the chef on ABC, is a terrorist supporter because she wore a scarf for dunkin donuts. And this was the scarf: http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x77/sm00th116/?action=view¤t=1a-1. jpg
Dunkin' Donuts has pulled an online advertisement featuring Rachael Ray after complaints that a fringed black-and-white scarf that the celebrity chef wore in the ad offers symbolic support for Muslim extremism and terrorism.
Conservative commentator Michelle Malkin, complained that the scarf wrapped around her looked like a kaffiyeh, the traditional Arab headdress.
The kaffiyeh, Malkin wrote in a column posted online last Friday, May 22, "has come to symbolize murderous Palestinian jihad. Popularized by Yasser Arafat and a regular adornment of Muslim terrorists appearing in beheading and hostage-taking videos, the apparel has been mainstreamed by both ignorant (and not-so-ignorant) fashion designers, celebrities, and left-wing icons."
Now Megan, I know you have a similar scarf because so does my mother, my sisters, my girlfriend, her friends, it's a damn simple scarf usually worn over a black coat gimme a break jihad.So now the fashion designers are ignorant, celebrities (that would include you), and "left wing icons".
If this woman is picking on you, just remember that you're being mocked by a scarf stereotyping mental case.

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5:54 am, Aug 11, 2009
shortcourse

Senator McCain stated that Sarah Palin brought his campaign the boost that he needed...that she brought in the disillusioned conservatives and the party base...without her, he would have done worse. But seems like some of you just can't get enough of Palin bashing (bitch fighting). Anyway...thanks for the clunker math.

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6:32 am, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

shortcourse Senator McCain stated that Sarah Palin brought his campaign the boost that he needed...that she brought in the disillusioned conservatives and the party base...without her, he would have done worse. But seems like some of you just can't get enough of Palin bashing (bitch fighting). Anyway...thanks for the clunker math.@@@@@@@ AND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SENATOR MCCAIN SAID, YOU BELIEVE IT?? YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT THAT YOU PUKES DONT RESEARCH. Do you think he's going to come right out and say it? "I F**KED UP"! No, he's going to save his dignity and say nice things. It doesnt take a genius to know that he was sinking his head in a fish tank hoping it was a nightmare to see the running mate he chose to be president should something happen tell Katie Couric that Africa is a country, give a gargled definition of the Bush Doctrine, doesn't even read a newspaper. Can you name one thing Palin promised in her 2 months of campaigning? No you cant!! Because all she did was go around the country telling a-holes that Obama is a terrorist, a marxist, and a PLO Khalidi soldier because he had a dinner with him--A GOD DAMN DINNER! NINE YEARS AGO! ...And boy did that one kick her right in the ass when it turned out McCain donated $488,000 to Khalidi. If that wasn't bad enough, she was so into her bashing of Obama that she wasn't reqady for her VP debate with Joe Biden. She had the balls to request extended time. Actually McCain had to do it for her to save her dignity and embarrass his.AND MEGHAN NO OFFENSE, BUT DAD DIDNT KNOW MUCH ABOUT HER EITHER AND THIS CLIP IS MAJOR PROOF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmRkTJRfwqA

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7:33 am, Aug 11, 2009
TREESKE

Pulling the ad is proof of how ignorant our Media is. Glad to have access to Independent and Foreign news Media that doesn't depend on screaming at you advertisements.

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9:26 am, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

WTF is that scarf a symbol of then? Arafat chic?

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10:27 am, Aug 11, 2009
artistnan

You are one cool Bush my dear. Keep it up. It is people like you who will help turn the fear mongering manics like Michelle Malkin into puddles of poop. I was totally amazed at her outrageous ideas and only can hope for a kinder GOP to form...one that wants to work for our country, not for ourselves, and to put to rest the angst between parties. Help them see that fear and slander are negatives that promote negativeness and confusion to those who are listening to talk radio for their government information. I cheer you. Carry on with a proud chest!

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11:01 am, Aug 11, 2009
BetsyM

innovations you are absolutely right on. Sarah Palin IS the reason I did not vote for McCain. I really feared if something happened to John McCain we would end up with a mess as Prez. These fringe people should have their own party because they are destroying the Republican party.

Michelle Malkin is going to be on a local right wing radio talk show tomorrow morning here in Colorado Springs. She claims she lives near here. Heaven help us. But I guess she feels safe living with the fringe right wingers. I am saddened that this party has gone so far right.

Meghan needs to ignore these loonies and just keep doing what she's doing. I am with her 100%.

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11:55 am, Aug 11, 2009
connie47

The burning issue of the day isn't about Michelle Malkin, whom I wouldn't dignity with a comment.

What inquiring minds want to know is how did you get that photograph into your post? TELL.

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12:10 pm, Aug 11, 2009
tonyjenson

Palin didn't lose the election for John McCain, hypocrisy did. It didn't matter who the Republican nominee was going to be, they were going to lose.
We were on the verge of an economic maelstrom, by inept handling from a party that espoused "financial restraint" but took a budget surplus and grew it into the largest deficeit in US History.
The party of family values began to actually be relieved when the constant sex scandals involved women.
Palin did not cause John McCain to lose! Now turning it into the largest margin of victory since Reagan? Palin did do that.

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1:23 pm, Aug 11, 2009
Bunx05

I'm with connie. How DID you work that magic? I can't even get my posts to italicize.

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2:02 pm, Aug 11, 2009
RegularJoe

Uh huh. And a swastika is just a pretty geometric design.

Sorry, symbols have meaning, and the kaffiyeh is one of them. You either stand with the PLO/PLA/Hamas, or you stand against them. It's a free country, and no one is suggesting anyone ought to be jailed or horse-whipped for wearing the kaffiyeh; but you can't just expect people to think it's "just a fashion accessory".

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2:08 pm, Aug 11, 2009
innovations


connie47 The burning issue of the day isn't about Michelle Malkin, whom I wouldn't dignity with a comment. What inquiring minds want to know is how did you get that photograph into your post? TELL @@@@@@ LOL well CONNIE if you see, the people on the Beast's end turned it over to it's link code. So I am not going to promote posting pics so that they cut off my account. But i'm glad you saw it and saw what that wacko considers a terrorist scarf. I think Coulter and Malkin are jealous of her Meg's looks. I think it's a girly girl thing. The link is private so those that didnt get to see the scarf Michelle Malkin claims to be a terroristic symbol, you can see it here: http://mikeresponts.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/rachelraydonuts.jpg

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2:20 pm, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

tonyjenson

Palin didn't lose the election for John McCain,hypocrisy did. It didn't matter who the Republican nominee was going to be, they were going to lose. @@@@@ Tony, you are the people Meghan wishes were not in her party, and definitely not in mine. WTF in your delusions make you think Sarah didn't ruin McCain's race?? The only people she was attracting were racists. Thats why she kept on campaigning with the same "OBAMA IS A PAL-AROUND TERRORIST" slogan and was getting roars and cheers. Because he worked with Bill Ayers on a project that was SPONSORED BY WALTER H. ANNENBERG--A REPUBLICAN AND BEST FRIENDS OF THE REAGEN'S. And for the record, Obama raised $50 million in grants for chicago schools. where Palin was nagging the government for $3.2 million for GENETIC STUDY OF HARBOR SEALS AND THEIR MATING PATTERNS. SHE WANTED THE GOVERNMENT TO WASTE $3.2 MILLION TO SNOOP IN ON HOW SEALS F**K! OH THATS WHO I WANT RUNNING THIS COUNTRY.
A month before she was nominated, Obama gave this speech: "August 4, 2008, In a speech given in Lansing, Michigan, Senator Obama called for the completion of the Alaska natural gas pipeline, stating, "Over the next five years, we should also lease more of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska for oil and gas production. And we should also tap more of our substantial natural gas reserves and work with the Canadian government to finally build the Alaska natural gas pipeline, delivering clean natural gas and creating good jobs in the process." Governor Sarah Palin today responded to the energy plan put forward by the presumptive Democratic nominee for President, Illinois Senator Barack Obama. "I am pleased to see Senator Obama acknowledge the huge potential Alaska's natural gas reserves represent in terms of clean energy and sound jobs," Governor Palin said. Governor Palin also acknowledged the Senator's proposal to offer $1,000 rebates to those struggling with the high cost of energy.
FUNNY HOW A MONTH PROIR TO BEING NOMINATED HE WAS A GREAT GUY TO PALIN. SHE WAS HAPPY TO SEE OBAMA WAS LOOKING OUT FOR HER STATE. THEN SHE GETS NOMINATED AS VP, AND HE'S FREAKING TERRORIST.
You think we normal-minded people didnt know this?? The normal-minded don't listen to FOX or the AM radio because they're not gonna tell you this.
And you have the cojones to say McCain didnt lose because of her??

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2:44 pm, Aug 11, 2009
jimvintn

RegularJoe

Uh huh. And a swastika is just a pretty geometric design.

Sorry, symbols have meaning, and the kaffiyeh is one of them. You either stand with the PLO/PLA/Hamas, or you stand against them. It's a free country, and no one is suggesting anyone ought to be jailed or horse-whipped for wearing the kaffiyeh; but you can't just expect people to think it's "just a fashion accessory".
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2:08 pm, Aug 11, 2009

"REGULAR JOE,"

HAHAHAHHAahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Thank. You that was one of the funniest things I have ever read.

Your ignorance has brought me great joy.

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3:05 pm, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

RegularJoe

Uh huh. And a swastika is just a pretty geometric design.

Sorry, symbols have meaning, and the kaffiyeh is one of them.@@@ SO BASED ON YOUR INTELLIGENT RESPONSE, IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY THAT ANYONE HANGING OR WAVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST. WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE SOUTH WOULDN'T IT?? ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH REPUBLICANS. YOU JUST CANT SHUT UP WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE WRONG. YOU TRY AND MAKE A COMEBACK AND MAKE THE STUPIDEST EXAMPLES TO MAKE YOUR POINT MAKING THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY LOOK RETARDED.

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3:06 pm, Aug 11, 2009
RegularJoe

innovations: "BASED ON YOUR INTELLIGENT RESPONSE, IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY THAT ANYONE HANGING OR WAVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST. WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE SOUTH WOULDN'T IT??"

I know I certainly assume that when I see someone waving a confederate flag (with one "kind-of" exception: there is a high school near here that has used the confederate flag for a zillion years as their school flag. I wish they'd change it, but to those kids it's their school flag, not the confederate flag. So I'll confer the "racist" tag on the old farts at the school board who haven't changed it, not necessarily on the kids). There was a time when a lot of people I knew who were just simply proud of the southern culture would use that flag, blissfully ignorant of the offense it caused. No one is ignorant of that anymore, so when I see that flag I assume that the person is at LEAST very rude, if not racist.

And no, not all southerners wave that flag. It is actually a VERY small minority, albeit a sadly vocal one.

I believe you'll have to do better than that to counter my argument.

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4:56 pm, Aug 11, 2009
RegularJoe

Weird, it didn't post my reply; I hope this doesn't wind up being a double post.

innovations said: "BASED ON YOUR INTELLIGENT RESPONSE, IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY THAT ANYONE HANGING OR WAVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST. WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE SOUTH WOULDN'T IT??"

First of all, find the "Caps Lock" key; press it, please. Just once. Thanks.

Now, to respond to your question: as a life-long southerner, the answer to the first part of your question -- would I consider anyone waving a confederate flag a white supremacist -- I'd say "at the very least, rude, and probably racist, with some sort of white supremacist leanings"; but generally yes, I would**. In answer to whether that would include "all of the south" -- you don't get south much, do you? Oh, there's still little enclaves of KKK idiots scattered here and there, but I've seen more of that in Ohio than in Georgia. Confederate flags are QUITE rare these days. The stereotype of the "southern racist" is useful to northern liberals, but it has little truth to it.

But the main answer to your question is that, yes, I consider the confederate flag a very inappropriate symbol, and have a very negative view of those who choose to display it. I certainly would not buy donuts from a company whose celebrity endorser was waving one.

** There is one "sort-of" exception to this that I know of. A high school near me has used the "rebel flag" as it's school flag for as long as anyone can remember. I've seen no sign that the kids -- black and white alike -- see that flag as anything but a symbol of their school; but my opinion of the boneheads on the school board who have failed to change it is one of utter contempt.

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5:10 pm, Aug 11, 2009
nailbunny

RegularJoe:

I have been to many Southern states and my feelings are mixed. You paint a picture of equality, hoping that no one knows better. In your community, it may be rare, but you can't argue with the Confederate flag being accepted on a state-level:
Mississippi's state flag:
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/objects-equipment/3969137-missis sippi-capitol-building.php?id=3969137
The argument for keeping the flag and continuously and proudly waving the filthy symbol of slavery wrapped in the excuse of 'state's rights':
http://confederateheritage.org/Capitol-lawsuit.html
Nowhere near as bad as South Carolina. They don't have the excuse of having the flag incorporated into their state flag like Mississippi:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/01/17/huckabee_says_flying_conf edera_1.html

But, seriously, a scarf? Malkin's accusations are so McCarthyist. I don't like your brooch - it's red like a Commie Pinko! At best it's grasping at straws. At worst, it's 1984.

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8:15 am, Aug 12, 2009
RegularJoe

Nailbunny,
I'll have to agree with you, upon further research, about Mississippi, where I've spent no more time than it takes to drive through it. I remember when they had a referendum to replace the confederate flag portion of their state flag, and mistakenly thought that had passed. Shame on them for not doing so.

As for S. Carolina, that flag is on a specific monument on the grounds. I think they should remove it, but it is a compromise. The thing I don't think northerners fully appreciate (and your email reflects this) is that "states rights" isn't some code word for "we want slavery brought back". It means we want the right to have laws that reflect OUR values, and let other states have laws that reflect theirs. Why shouldn't Massachusetts have gay marriage if they want it? And Tennessee not have it, if they don't? Ditto a thousand other laws, great and small. Our nation was founded as a loose confederation of states, and many of us -- I guess more here than up north -- think that is best. As such -- and considering that the VAST majority of Southerners who fought and died in the War Between the States never had a slave -- we honor those who died in that war. I personally think it would be best to do that without flying the flag, but others disagree. So the compromise is that, in the state of S. Carolina, there is ONE official place where the flag is flown.

I can assure you in the places I've lived -- in and around Dallas, TX, Austin, TX, and Knoxville, TN -- that flag is rare, and those who display it shunned in polite society.

But the greater point is that I agree with innovations that the flag is an unacceptable symbol, and I'd not do business with someone who uses it in their advertising -- which was, really, what this whole issue was about.

And "just a scarf" -- yeah, whatever. It doesn't go with what she's wearing, in color or style. It certainly appears to have been worn to make a statement. You have every right to agree with that statement -- just as redneck crackers have every right to long for the days of slavery -- but I want no part of anyone with either viewpoint.

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1:41 pm, Aug 12, 2009
unclelew

Shortcourse: Palin is an idiot! You betcha! Name one idea she has proposed that was not warmed-over junk from Libertarians. Being a "giantt" among neanderthals still makes her a neanderthal. can you imagine her as president of the United States, after John McCain died of embarrassment? You'd have been involved in three wars by now and the rich would have had three more tax cuts, and the oil company and health insurance executives would be dancing in the streets

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3:11 pm, Aug 12, 2009
RegularJoe

unclelew: I'm no fan of Palin, but she's not an idiot. She has a serious "user interface" problem, to be sure, and is certainly not ready to be President.

But then again, neither is Obama. Decent user interface, but behind it? Not much. You say Palin's ideas are "warmed over" from libertarians? That's better than Obama's, which are warmed over from socialists. And talk about REAL embarassment if a VP has to ascend -- what about Biden? I've heard it said -- and really have to think it might be true -- that Obama picked Biden to discourage would-be assassins, because to do in Obama (make no mistake, I'd be opposed to this under any circumstance) would mean "President Joe Biden" -- and doing away with him would mean "President Nancy Pe" -- no, I can't even make myself type such a thing.


Shortcourse: Palin is an idiot! You betcha! Name one idea she has proposed that was not warmed-over junk from Libertarians. Being a "giantt" among neanderthals still makes her a neanderthal. can you imagine her as president of the United States, after John McCain died of embarrassment? You'd have been involved in three wars by now and the rich would have had three more tax cuts, and the oil company and health insurance executives would be dancing in the streets

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5:31 pm, Aug 12, 2009
FranklinW

Hey Dopey...I mean innovations.

So the government encouraging an already over-levered consumer is good??? Since when??? The consumer who participated in cash for clunkers now have a debt (collateralized against a depreciating asset) that they must now pay off and interest expense during the interim. Let me help you out here -- this means consumer now is under more financial pressure and can spend less on goods/services in the future, which helps ensure our economy will remain under pressure well into the future, which means fewer jobs in the future. And under your "brilliant" financial analysis, what happens to the banks when these consumers default on their loans???

No -- encouraging already over-levered consumers to take on more debt for a one time expenditure on a depreciating asset is NOT good.

What a clown...typical of all libs...dumb as a box of dirt but they sure have strong opinions.

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12:37 pm, Aug 15, 2009
possumdearie

Meghain McCain thinks the GOP should ditch its social conservatives. There is room for moderates in the party, but they do it no good by complaining that we should be more like the Democrats. There are some issues which are bedrock principles, and the GOP does best when it sticks to its conservative message of family values, strong national security, low taxes, pro-business and limited government. Most Americans and immigrants agree with these values. Giving in to the Democrats' pandering to identity politics is a recipe for disaster, and if Meghain McCain cared anything about Republican values or had an active role in the party before her father was its nominee, she would know this. She needs to dummy up with a cheeseburger and leave the big stuff to the grown-ups.

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10:20 am, Aug 11, 2009
JesCat

Meghan McCain does not believe that the GOP need to "ditch its social conservatives"-that's pretty much the opposite of what she's saying. She is simply stating that their is room for both social and fiscal conservatives-not just one or the other. The GOP needs to allow other ideas to be heard, similar to the idea that anyone who strays from any conservative path can find a voice as a democrat.

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10:50 am, Aug 11, 2009
JesCat

Also, thanks for perpetuating the idea that no one under that age of forty can make a difference to the Republican party-that's exactly why college campuses speak in reverent terms about Barack Obama and any other democrat. And why many college chapter of College/Young Republicans are dying out. Thanks.

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10:52 am, Aug 11, 2009
meglon978

*** "There are some issues which are bedrock principles, and the GOP does best when it sticks to its conservative message of family values, strong national security, low taxes, pro-business and limited government."

Family Values: see, Vitter, Stanford, Foley, Haggard, Craig, Murphy, Allen, and the list just doesn't stop...

Strong National Security: apparently means, do everything possible to degrade the view of the US with everyone else in the world.

Low Taxes: who doesn't agree with that. OF course, for the republicans, that means shifting trillions of dollars in debt to our children and grandchildren. Nothing like selling out the country for a few self-centered shitheads that haven't learned to live up to their responsibilities in society.

Pro Business: almost laughable. Moving health care from a business cost to a social cost would be an immense help to businesses. Around election time last year, GM was spending more on health care costs than it was on steel to make their vehicles. EVERY other industrialized country in th world has universal health care, yet we have a group (that you've defined) who are too stupid to think we can do that here in the US.

Limited government: total bullshit. Largest increase in the size of government since Medicare = Department of Homeland Security. Largest percentage of GDP on government spending since WWII = Under Reagan and Bush I.

*** "Most Americans and immigrants agree with these values."

I guess that explains the vast majorities in the House and Senate that the conservatives have, as well as the election of their presidential candidate.... Oh wait, this isn't fantasy land.

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11:14 am, Aug 11, 2009
tonyjenson

"GOP does best when it sticks to its conservative message"
If only Republicans would PRACTICE their message when they are in power. With the exception of low taxes, Republicans in power broke every platform point Possumdearie mentioned.

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1:33 pm, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

You are getting the wrong message on Meghan. She is still right wing. But she is right wing with a brain and that knocks out about 2/3 of today's republicans. She is fair in her views. I know exactly where she's coming from cuz I am the same way. I consider myself a "REPUBLOCRAT". I agree with some issues on both sides. Sort of like doctor? pharmacist? the doctor knows your health but the pharmacist knows his medicine. If the doctor gives you an Rx for Ambien but the pharmacist says that Ambien users have been giving complaints of nausea, who do you listen to? Same way I am with Dems and GOP. And thats how Meghan feels. And thats what society needs. She'll be a good role model for the future generation if she doesnt catch COULTERITIS OR HANNITY SYNDROME.

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2:13 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

meglon978, You just proved my point. The Democrats believe people are too stupid to run their own lives, therefore their message is let government decide for you. While Republicans emphasize personal responsibility. Unfortunately, this means when a Republican politician screws up, it hangs around their neck like an albatross. While a Democrat will just shrug and divert the idiot mob's attention to the Republicans and morally equivocate.

And the biggest expansion of government prior to Bush was LBJ's Great Society. We're still paying that off. We've had debt since Truman, but now Obama has multiplied that by 10. Little things you guys forget about.


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2:49 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

And JesCat, Meghain McCain doesn't really say much besides "OMG." Did you miss when she said Republicans should embrace gay marriage?

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2:50 pm, Aug 11, 2009
liberaljesus

You are a blad faced liar! She never said one word about social conservatives being "run out" of gop...thats your side yelling that crap to all the moderates and people of the gop who actually have more than a ged. Whats left of this hatefilled group of the party is a ged or lesser crowd. All the intellectuals fled in 2004, the moderates in 2008. All thats left is ignorance and hate. Nothing more, nothing less.

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3:00 pm, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

possumdearie meglon978, You just proved my point. The Democrats believe people are too stupid to run their own lives, therefore their message is let government decide for you. While Republicans emphasize personal responsibility. Unfortunately, this means when a Republican politician screws up, it hangs around their neck like an albatross. While a Democrat will just shrug and divert the idiot mob's attention to the Republicans and morally equivocate. And the biggest expansion of government prior to Bush was LBJ's Great Society. We're still paying that off. We've had debt since Truman, but now Obama has multiplied that by 10. Little things you guys forget about.@@@@@ POSSUMDEARIE, YOU PROVED THE POINT ALL BY YOURSELF THAT PEOPLE ARE STUPID==PARTICULARLY REPUBLICANS. HOW DO U EXPLAIN THAT THE GOP EMPHASIZE ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?? DID BUSH GIVE YOU THAT FEELING? THIS IS THE GOP'S DEFINITION OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY--INHERIT A $5.6 TRILLION SURPLUS IN 2001 RESULTING IN A $3.9 TRILLION DEFICIT IN 2003. $8.3 DOWN THE DRAIN IN 2 YEARS AND NOONE KNOWS WHERE THE F**K IT WENT. OBVIOUSLY THAT DIDNT BOTHER ANY OF YOU IDIOTS BECAUSE YOU RE-ELECTED HIM IN 2004. HE DIGS INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDS TO SPEND IT ON GOD KNOWS WHAT, BY DECEMBER 2007 7.7 MILLION UNEMPLOYED, ALL WHILE HE'S GIVING TRILLIONS IN TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH AND RAISING IT ON THE POOR, AND BEFORE YOU EVEN THINK TO SAY THAT HE PAID FOR THE WARS, HE'RE A LITTLE SOMETHING FROM THE CBO REPORT OF SEPT 09, 2008--> The Bush Administration's refusal to offset the costs of its new tax cuts, new entitlement expansions, and the wars have led to the ballooning of the national debt. This Administration has pushed through tax cuts that cost roughly $2 trillion, as well as a Medicare prescription drug bill that cost $400 billion. The wars have already cost nearly $900 billion. Yet, the Bush Administration has paid for none of these measures. In fact, if the Administration's tax cuts and the war had been fully offset, we would not be facing such a mountain of debt, which threatens our economy and our ability to meet the needs of our citizens." ---EMPHASING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY--THE REPUBLICAN WAY. MORON.

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4:05 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

Don't even talk to me about Bush spending. That conversation was best had while he was in office, before Obama took office and quadrupled his spending. But let's talk about the $5.6 trillion surplus. I will write this in ALL CAPS AND ELEVENTIES SO YOU WILL UNDERSTAND...

IT WAS A PROJECTED SURPLUS BY THE CBO THAT WAS NEVER EVER REALIZED. IT WAS A MYTH.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZGEzOWJhNTc2ZTg5MDEyYzA4N2YwM2MzOWI wZWI1ZmE=

1) It never existed. 2) It never would have existed. 3) Policymakers never intended for it to exist.

Do you not realize that the spending you listed comes nowhere near $5.6 trillion and doesn't come close to the $3.4 trillion budget Obama proposed for this FY2010 alone?

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9:51 pm, Aug 11, 2009
davids2443

Keep going guys. We dems love this stuff!

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11:44 am, Aug 11, 2009
jewpiterjones

It's totally disingenuous for your to describe Cash for Clunkers as a mess. It's a wild, unmitigated success. The fact that Congress underestimated it's popularity does not leave them at fault especially considering it quickly allocated additional monies when the original allotment had been exhausted. If you want to decry auto incentives, why not review the tax breaks the GOP granted new truck buyers. You know, the one's that gave millionaires $17,000 rebates on $100,000 Range Rovers.

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12:48 pm, Aug 11, 2009
Bunx05

Precisely. Cash for Clunkers is the type of innovative thinking we need to use in times of economic distress. We shouldn't do it all the time, but it was great for two reasons: 1) It was stimulus money that could simply be spent outright. You didn't have to wait for your state government to decide which project was the right project and then wait for them to decide the best way to start said project. 2) It showed businesses banks and citizens that there is a desire for spending out there. That improves consumer confidence which gives banks incentive to lend more and businesses incentive to invest. Clunkers was a grea litmus test. In the future, I'd like to see more better planned long term creative thinking from the government.

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2:08 pm, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

Bunx05==BINGO!!! You said it all!!!! Notice how this Cash for Clunkers plan was sort of like a sneak attack. Because leave it to a bi-partisan vote in Congress, the Republicans would be bashing it, as with all theother good ideas Dems come up with, then they would have leaked it to FoxNews where Hannity, Beck, gRETA, and the rest of the klan would of got their own "experts" like George Will to say that it sucks, and you would of had a bunch of old bigots hanging around the dealerships protesting the Cash for Clunker plan. It's sad to say this, but as much as Obama wants to work with Republicans in a bi-partisan matter, and get along, he can't. You have to be a communist of the good kind to get things done. Look at Clinton. 6 years Republicans gave him migranes disagreeing with every plan he came up with. He had to veto ALL their bulls because they made no sense. Ending Result?? $5.6 trillion surplus, 24 million jobs created, signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in history, resulting in over $600 billion in deficit reduction. WOULD THIS BE ACCOMPLISHED IF CLINTON ACTUALLY WORKED WITH REPUBLICANS?

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4:24 pm, Aug 11, 2009
RealRepub

Uh, guess again. And I am certain that a guess it would be. You didn't register as a Republican until after dear ol' dad began his latest campaign for prez. Not during any of his senate races, or his first attempt in 2000. Yet you are s'posed to be a member of the great moderate force we can't live without?? You couldn't tell the difference between an FDR Nine and a John Roberts, between a spending cut and a reduction in increase, or an illegal alien and an extra Arizona Congressman. Your dad's differences weren't just with the "far right" of the party. He took pleasure in sticking his "I'm war hero John McCain" finger right smack dab in the party's eye, just so he could be a media darling, the mythical Repub moderate. Lotta good that did him, eh? If John MCcain weren't your dad, you'd be easily dismissed, nay, never acknowledged, as too light weight, too simple, too much nothing. It's time we gave you your do (see above). Conservtives claim many brilliant women (yes, Coulter, Malkin, and) Schlafly, Ham, Courtier, Linda Chavez, Lynn Cheney, etc, etc. Out of your league, dearie. "Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

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2:32 pm, Aug 11, 2009
nickatdabeach

This blonde heifer is the gift that keeps on giving to the Simcox for Senate campaign. I wonder when McLame is gonna come out of the closet? She seemed awful toe-tapping friendly with MSLSD's boy-girl Rachel Mancow last time I stomached watching. I notice her daddy has shut up lately. Must be a tough campaign ahead. More importantly that this blonde tramp's rant, I want to say Obozo is lower than a used car salesman in his pitch in N.H, today, just lie after lie, but more importantly, please pass this along to other blogs if you agree: NO healthcare reform: 1)- with illegal alien coverage 2)- without lawyer tort reform 3)- and so you know, the stimulus plan money just sits there now to bribe politicians with special projects to get this deathcare insurance plan passed -- any legislator who supports any of the above will have a short tenure as elected representative. Stay tuned.

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3:28 pm, Aug 11, 2009
comidoki

nickatdabeach ----> Your party will continue to fail due to individuals like yourself and the disgusting views your hold. The slimy manner in which you voice those views is equally atrocious.

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11:10 am, Aug 12, 2009
revcat

nickatdabeach:
Acting like a 3rd grade homophobic bully negates the possibility of any logical discourse. Me thinks you have stayed out in the sun too long, the heat has evaporated your brain and made you mean and nasty: "heifer" & "Mancow"? It's so pathetic that you can't even see that you are the poster boy for exactly what Megan is talking about.

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6:31 pm, Aug 21, 2009
Maezeppa

It's not going to happen. When Republicans went whoring after the religious extremists, it was a deadly embrace. You are marginalized and the GOP is no more except in name only.

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3:40 pm, Aug 11, 2009
uhuru1

Republicans have managed to decimate themselves into two general groups in this Country. The first group comprises the wealthy institutions and interest groups that are heavily vested in the status quo. The second is a victim of fear mongering by the first into believing that the only role for government is national defense.
The current tactic of suppressing health care debate at town hall meeting is using the same playbook of fear. It will be interesting to see how republicans fair in future elections given the hostility they have shown to issues affecting the middle and lower class. Not to mention the intimate ties to a financial system that pushed this Country to the brink of financial collapse.

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9:58 pm, Aug 11, 2009
nickatdabeach

Have another twinkie Mz McLame.

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3:48 pm, Aug 11, 2009
revcat

nick, you are an idiot!

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6:32 pm, Aug 21, 2009
DJBoone

Meghan, I really respect you standing up for what you believe in!I am a VietNam Era veteran and have always followed politics closely.Furthermore, I also have a lot of respect for your Father who sacrificed a lot for this country.Please continue to stand up for your views.You really appear to have the common sense to see through the BS spread by the far Right and/or Left.

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5:01 pm, Aug 11, 2009
ranger75

the problem with the republican party is that it is just a wing of the democratic party. as a vietnam vet i respect john mccain as a true patriot and he is owed a debt by this country that it can never repay. i voted for mccain only because i couldnt vote for obama. i kept an open mind rearding obama. i thought that the warmth that he was shown by the country would have a sobering effect on him. i8 was wrong. the republicans lost because they spent like democrats.

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5:26 pm, Aug 11, 2009
revcat

Republicans: It's their own fault they lost but most of them won't man up like you did.

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6:35 pm, Aug 21, 2009
beafrank

Staying steadfast and communicating conservative principles strengthens the Republican party whose basic theme is 'Freedom', not 'diversity' or the milk toast 'lets be like liberals' message. John McCain reached across the political aisle many times only to get beat up and eventually beaten. Ms. Meghan obviously enjoys riding on the coattails of Ann, Laura and Michelle. Is Monica Crowley next? These women have a deep knowledge and accomplished work experience from which they support their positions and opinions. What work experience does McCain have besides her birthright, a college degree and traveling on the campaign bus? The hilarious comparison between Tweets and a published book that is #1 on Amazon.com and New York Times indicates how much of an ignorant neophyte she is. (Whoops, more than 140 letters.) The Republican party is open to anyone without any litmus test. I bet there are more pro-abortion Republicans than anti-abortion Democrats in those respective camps. The racists are on the left side since their 'complexion politics' is a core value. A simple comparison of the Justice Thomas confirmation hearings compared to Sotomayor, Ginsberg or Estrada hearings is evidence of this tactic. McCain should research original themes on her own and produce writings without hitchhiking on the success of Coulter, Ingraham and Malkin.

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9:47 pm, Aug 11, 2009
comidoki

"deep knowledge and accomplished work experience from which they support their positions and opinions" --> you have to be kidding?

success of Coulter, Ingraham and Malkin = peddling hate to individuals that thrive on divisive discourse.

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11:13 am, Aug 12, 2009
beafrank

comidoki, your liberal response to anything you disagree with is labeled as 'hate', 'racist', 'stupid' or '----phob'. There women have all written best selling books that ranked high on Amazon and NY Times bestsellers. I challenge you to read the books and find any 'hate' in them. The only 'hate' you will find is the 'hate' of ignorance and liberal lies.

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3:12 am, Aug 13, 2009
comidoki

beafrank --->

My main point of disagreement with M.M. is based on her grotesque book In Defense of Internment. I have read this book and I find it appauling that someone would actually attempt to defend the actions of our government. I also dislike her because she continues to lie about Health Care playing up the "death panel" issue as well as trying to scare people with Health Care rationing, yet she offers no facts. She suggested that Swine Flu outbreak was due to immigrants to scare up anti immigration feelings. Duh we live in a world where I can travel around the world in a very short period, but lets blame immigration instead. She has also posted the home addresses, phone numbers and e-mail address of the individuals that she disagrees with so that her supporters could send them hate messages and death threats. If you review her blogsite, the bulk of the information is negative and offers nothing to our national discourse and offers no solutions to the problems that we currently face.

I find it humorous that you trout out the standard conservative response to anyone that challenges twisted people like Michelle. I would agree with you on one point, I do hate ignorance.

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11:39 am, Aug 13, 2009
moustik

I am a liberal, like a huge majority of people here in Quebec Canada. But I believe that ideas must be confronted and discussed. I have been listening to high-profile Republicans and I must say I am saddens and angered by their narrow-minded views and disloyal tactics to get their points across. It is very refreshing to realize that not all Republicans are alike and I truly believe that you represent the future for your party, with a less radical/extremist party philosophy. I applaud your views and you courage in standing up for what you believe in a rational, non-violent, civil way. I would not vote for the Republican Party if I were a US citizen, but I would certainly listen to what you party has to say if you were the one saying it.

A liberal admirer :)

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11:04 am, Aug 12, 2009
Justly-Ed

I would ask Michelle Malkin (if that really is her name),
where she was born?
Where is her birth certificate? The LONG form birth certificate?

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11:35 pm, Aug 12, 2009
andrewregnery

Our greatest strength is our diversity. The Conservative Right pundits are asking MODERATE Republicans like John McCain, Colin Powell, and Arnold Schwarzenegger to leave the Republican Party. These COMPASSIONATE Conservatives are being pushed out by the RADICAL Conservatives like Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. These COMPASSIONATE Conservatives today are the Blue Dog Democrats. During the 1980's they were known as the Reagan Democrats. I AM a COMPASSIONATE Conservative but which political party do I want to belong to. I prefer to belong to another party called the AMERICAN party where it does not matter who we are; it only matters that we care about the well being of ALL Americans. It is about coming together, working together, and making this world a better place. Divided We Sink, United We Soar. -- Andrew Matthew Regnery

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6:39 am, Aug 13, 2009
hypersurf

Are we all for freedom of speech shrined in our constitution? Ask people to shut up is Un-American. The only time we can ask people to shut up is when they keep talking and prevent other people talk, like some of the protesters.

I hope Republican party can go back to its root of Lincoln. For equality, against bigotry; for union, against divisiveness.

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7:29 pm, Aug 13, 2009
EnsignPaul

IMEGHAN MCCAIN FOR RNC CHAIRMAN!

I'm a proud liberal who has the deepest respect for Meghan McCain, particularly for her support for gay right and desire to allow young republicans to speak out.

We live in a Democracy, and even though the party I support is in power right now, I'll understand a need for responsible fiscal conservatism, now and in the future, and Meghan doesn't hang herself like the far right in their xenophobia, homophobic incendiary rhetoric.

Meghan, you're correct. Even as we speak the GOP is becoming more embarrassingly exclusionary to many groups they will find harder winning over in the future.

In the health care debate it's rare to hear a Republican who even recognizes a need for reform because their voices are drowned by the "birthers" and the "deathers."

I never hear the Republicans solution in how the private sector can rebuild the U.S. infrastructure.

I have not been convinced about how tax cuts for corporations or the wealthy would benefit the poor or the middle class, nor do I hear the GOP speak directly to the poor or middle class.

And I don't see the right wing of this country having a strong party when they staunchly object to illegal immigrants included in any health care bill. (A concern I'll agree with, but remember very soon that minorities won't be minorities in this country.)

Meghan McCain's style is "stop, step back, let's talk."

Meghan, I believe if more progressive conservatives like you would come forward that your party can become a more formidable opponent in 2010 and 2012.

Sadly, however, it has become more noise and less dialogue.

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1:18 pm, Aug 14, 2009
Ti33ER

Idological mindsets are ID! People identify with them, it becomes who they are. People can spend their entire lives combing through details, but the fact remains that something NEW (much more than 3 letters-or 3 words) is required to bring US (Not simply the United States of America) to a place in mental time where we can MOVE ON!
On a personal note, I spend my days working with individual people, and families, who, for one reason or another, remain in the past- it's very sad to watch someone plead with Time, it's the ONE thing we don't control. We should realize time is something to use to create. Time is not ment to be used to perpetuate the past! Let (o) propel US into the future.

Fighting has a few implicit implication-- us/them , win/lose , shall I go on?

Much (L)
Peace

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10:26 pm, Aug 19, 2009
Ti33ER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENGnGAIuYgM

WORD!

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10:41 pm, Aug 19, 2009
quiet-american

http://www.thedcwriteup.com/2009/08/the-mark-of-mccain/

http://www.thedcwriteup.com/2009/08/the-mark-of-mccain/

http://www.thedcwriteup.com/2009/08/the-mark-of-mccain/

http://www.thedcwriteup.com/2009/08/the-mark-of-mccain/

http://www.thedcwriteup.com/2009/08/the-mark-of-mccain/

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2:15 am, Aug 23, 2009
CorinneSix

Meghan- I too am a young Republican woman who is very active in politics in my county in Ohio. While my personal political beliefs are much more right-winged than your own, I could not agree with you more about needing to be an inclusive party and reach out to bring more young conservatives and moderates into our fold. We have had enough of the good 'ole boys clubs and are never going to take back our Party without widing our base. Thank you for your passion and committment to doing that!

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10:13 am, Aug 27, 2009
walkman56

I admire Meghan. I am fro Ma. so you know my affiliation. That being said,I disagree with one point,cash for clunkers was an overwhelming success. It had a ripple effect on the auto industry and its affiliated parts companies. I agree with Meghan about preaching fear and hate which right now is the achilles heel of the GOP. Until they get all the old white men out of that party,they will go nowhere,as evidenced in the last two elections. Their lack of accomplishments for the average Americans is taking its toll too. They need fresh,new,young faces with rational ideas like Meghan has,not idiots like Coulter,Malkin,Ingraham,et al. Good luck Meghan and hopefully you can wake that party out of its doldrums.

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4:48 am, Sep 8, 2009
ThatLibertarianGuy

This is like a Neocon family feud.

I agree with Malkin that McCain needs to shut up, but Malkin and Ingraham are hardly "far right." Coulter is the closest to the far-right, which is represented by paleoconservatives like Pat Buchanan.

I would love to see ALL of them leave the Republican party so that MAYBE there would be some hope of a major party that actually represented classical liberalism.

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11:45 pm, Aug 10, 2009
tmoverbeck

I would love to see a more inclusive GOP that doesn't believe in culture wars or demonizing gays & hippies. But I feel that it's not gonna happen unless the party gets: 1) more registered people that refuse to drink the Rush-flavored Kool-Aid; 2) think tanks that will come up with comprehensive and feasible alternatives to Democratic proposals, rather than just outright oppose whatever ideas they have; and 3) more progressive financial contributors that don't have the backing of Christian extremists or belligerent talk-radio mouthpieces.

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12:00 am, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

it's alot deeper than that...it's plain ol racism. why is it all you see in these town hall meetings are old white folks who are already on social security? and if you're on social security then you're on government healthcare. So what the hell do they care? Thats where Rush Limballs comes in. Look lets face it. The racist generation is still around. Segregation was over around 1970. Those who spat at blacks and kicked them out their diners are still around. And they're proabably getting ready for another townhall attack as I type. But they'll be dead in 30 or so years and the younger generation who didnt grow up tieing nooses and burning crosses on top of Stone Mountain will be a better class of people. Meghan is a living example of what the Republican class will look and behave like. Regardless of her "Cash for Clunker mess" claim lol.

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7:53 am, Aug 11, 2009
MariosRight

The repub well is poisoned by the rw extremists. Why would anyone new want to come and drink with them?

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9:58 am, Aug 12, 2009
Rogers99

We are with you Meghan We can take this party back and into the new era. Old Social Conservatives beware. We are becoming a BIG TENT party. SO get on the train or get run over

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12:01 am, Aug 11, 2009
Ritarita

Reality on the ground
Indicates just the opposite.

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8:01 am, Aug 11, 2009
troyriser

Ritarita verse:
I like but never agree.
Doleful paradox.

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12:54 pm, Aug 11, 2009
Bunx05

So unfortunate the need
To deny her truth
Through mockery
Of the delivery
Of the message.

Don't try to be like Rita, there's only one.

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2:10 pm, Aug 11, 2009
troyriser

Are you truly this dense, Bunx05? I was saying I like what Rita writes, how she expresses herself. I simply disagree with the substance of most of her posts. She's liberal and I'm conservative. Of course I'm going to disagree with her most of the time. It's cute, though, the way you jumped to her defense. That white knight shtick is downright adorable, if a little sappy.

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2:39 pm, Aug 11, 2009
Bunx05

I'd be a GREAT white knight, if I weren't black.

I know that you're conservative troy. I don't have a problem with it. I also completely understood your post. The point of my post was to make a joke about how often people mimic Rita particularly when trying to discount her statements. And it wasn't really directed at you. I just happened to make the joke at your expense.

So if I offended your delicate sensibilities, I'm oh so sorry. I guess I didn't think you would be so dense as to take my meaning wrong.

Go out and make it a great day!

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2:40 pm, Aug 13, 2009
Dylan111

Mere wishful thinking on your part. You are nowhere near taking your party back.

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9:05 am, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

You seem to miss the obvious contradiction of fighting social conservatives to "take the party back." The GOP has always been conservative, the de facto small-l libertarian party that believes government should not meddle in social engineering experiments but let people be free. You're just grinding your gears.

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10:31 am, Aug 11, 2009
DocHumboldt

Big tent? More like: trailer park on the weird side of town. Get on the train? More like: the short bus. Take it back? More like: to the stone age or into a New Whirled Odor.

There's no room for the second teenage shout downs of your party in modern adult politics. Meghan's lame attempt at becoming the GOP voice of reason on the coat tails of Daddy's lame assed campaign, are, well...Lame.

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11:49 am, Aug 11, 2009
AlexandraJordan

Hi Meghan,
I love what you're doing in the way of gay marriage and equal rights, and the way you are fighting back against ultra-conservative (and mean!) ladies like Ms.'s Ingraham, Malkin, and Coulter.
However, I have to disagree with your comment "Barack Obama won the last election on the slogan 'Yes We Can.'" As an Obama supporter (at least at the time of the election), I can honestly say that he did not win the election because of his slogan! He won because of his policies, his ideas, and his platform. I agree that he brought hope, but that was all based on his policies.
Meghan, a lot of your columns recently have mentioned Obama in a negative tone, or the fact that your father lost the election. It was over nine months ago!
I do agree with your idea that you need to bring hope to the GOP - bring it with your platforms, policies, and ideas. I know with certainty that the party would gain many, many more supporters if Republican members like you could bring good ideas and hope to the party. Good luck - and don't get bogged down by silly conservative pundits. They just want something or somebody to talk about!
Thanks.

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12:16 am, Aug 11, 2009
ck-390

I don't think that she meant he won the election because he had a catchy slogan, I think that she was praising his positive and inclusive attitude- embodied in the "yes we can" slogan.

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1:15 am, Aug 11, 2009
shortcourse

@alexandra
did you just hint that you switched from being an Obama supporter? Ting...the sound of another disillusioned Obummer getting their wings.

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6:14 am, Aug 11, 2009
jenny4hill

I don't think you read what Alexandra wrote. I think you only spewed what you wanted to read. Anyway, real disillusionment came after 8 years; there's only the same old fear and loathing among the basest of bases after just 8 months.

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12:33 pm, Aug 11, 2009
TheRuralJuror

"I do agree with your idea that you need to bring hope to the GOP - bring it with your platforms, policies, and ideas."

NEWS FLASH: Megs doesn't have platforms, policies, and ideas. She doesn't even know what those big words mean. It's surprising to me that there are still people who haven't noticed how stunningly vapid (and bonkers) this woman really is.

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7:57 am, Aug 11, 2009
JesCat

I also don't think that "change we can believe in" or "Yes we can" is an all together positive message. I mean, they are attacks on previous policies and administrations, as in "yes, we can do this where everyone else has failed" or "change the failures of the past". They're the same slogans that the GOP has used, just in a shorter context. In addition to an extreme lack of clarification or specifications that can justify all of his current actions.

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10:56 am, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

"Yes, we can" was lifted from Cesar Chavez. It is a socialist rally cry, not a bit like anything ever promoted by the GOP. It's not just about power, but I'm talking to a bunch of mouthbreathing trailer trash here.

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3:17 pm, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

possumdearie

"Yes, we can" was lifted from Cesar Chavez. It is a socialist rally cry, not a bit like anything ever promoted by the GOP. It's not just about power, but I'm talking to a bunch of mouthbreathing trailer trash here.@@@ SORTA LIKE "JOE THE PLUMBER SAY'S OBAMA IS A MARXIST"?

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4:26 pm, Aug 11, 2009
beafrank

I think people KNOW how shallow she is but it takes more than 140 letters to say it.

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9:49 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

Obama made a comment about wealth redistribution. He said he believed in "spreading the wealth around." He talks about social justice. This all sounds fine to you, because you believe he will give you somebody else's money. It is Marxism, though.

From Wikipedia: A person is an exploiter if they perform less labour than is necessary to produce the goods they consume. Exploitation is thus a matter of surplus labour, the amount of labour one performs over and above what one receives in the form of goods. Exploitation has been a feature of all class societies, and is one of the main features that distinguish one class from another. One class's power and control of the means of production enable it to exploit another class. Therefore, the state controls the means of production and makes sure the wealth is fairly distributed.

Do you know why this never works? Because politicians are scumbags, and they cannot be trusted with your money unless you have the power to throw them out of office. You lose that power with socialism or Marxism, because you have created a permanent, dependent voting class, if that.

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10:00 pm, Aug 11, 2009
JesCat

In all reality, almost no one really knew how the candidates differed, speaking from a college campus, the ideas of "Hope", "Change" and "Yes!" were what gained him almost the entire youth vote, as well as won him over with uninformed voters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg

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10:54 am, Aug 11, 2009
boupierre

For a number of years, the neoconservatives of the Republican Party were the dominant force. This type of conservatism has lost favor with most Americans. The Republican Party has to go back to its roots of fiscal responsibility tempered by policies that meet the needs of its citizens. To date, the Republican Party has not used its period in opposition to reflect upon its policies and adapter for a new context. It does not appear that the party will be able to do this before the 2010 midterm elections. Hopefully, the primary season before the 2012 election will be the Republicans opportunity to come up with new policies to meet the challenges faced by the United States. Clearly, if the extreme right of the party continues to hold sway, this will weaken democracy in the United States.

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12:28 am, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

Neoconservatives are not the extreme right. You're confused.

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10:32 am, Aug 11, 2009
comidoki

Then why don't you explain to us what exactly you think Neocon are then?

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12:47 pm, Aug 12, 2009
RLDabney

Hahahah 3 comments Meghan. Here is the truth, the GOP will never be a party fighting for the gay rights that you and the other people at Smith Point on a Friday night think are important. The GOP does not live in DC, Manhattan or San Francisco. You did create the infighting by telling the GOP that the party will die unless we embrace something that has severely hurt the Democrats again and again, forcing Americans to accept something that is a chosen form of perversion.

If you want a way to move, it is towards a libertarian position. The Federal government has no business telling gays they can or cannot get married because it should be up to states and local governments. The Federal government also has no right to create a "War on Drugs" or a "War on Poverty". Socialized medicine will fail and immigration reform which means rewarding illegal immigrants for their crimes will hurt President Obama even worse than it hurt your dad. Check out the libertarian wing of the GOP, I think you will like it. We do not tell anyone else what to do as long as it does not infringe upon our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Sound familiar?

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12:40 am, Aug 11, 2009
FairNYC

You go Meghan, Malkin is a loony shill for the Far Right, and she is killing the GOP. And she couldn't care less.

That's the problem, she is not one of the people who love and care about the GOP; she uses it for her own selfish gain, to sell books, peddle her blog, gain audiences when she is on Fox News and at Tea Parties.

It's really a shame, and more people like you need to speak up about this woman and her manipulating ilk.

Keep up the good fight, you are honest and you tell it as it is, God Bless you!

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12:42 am, Aug 11, 2009
evae1960

Meghan, I would've voted for your father, just as I did in 2000, if he had not chosen Palin. Your dad is a wonderful man who would've made a great president. I do not really consider him to be with these fools that are now running, or ruining the party.
You're refreshing. The voices of Ann Coulter and Laura Ingram are like nails scraping the chalkboard. I am afraid the likes of Karl Rove and Lee Atwater have cast the Republican party too far out to sea on the Miachevellian ship. It will be a long while before their time will come again. I hope you will still be on the scene.

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12:43 am, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

BS. You're a Democrat who liked loser McCain. Palin was never top of the ticket and no way would she have gotten anywhere near the White House.

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10:33 am, Aug 11, 2009
comidoki

Hmmmm Palin was part of the ticket, so being on top of the ticket hardly matters considering John McCain and his age/health. Besides the position of VP can have considerable influence (i.e. see Bush/Cheney)

Either way your post makes little sense and seems like it was just another opportunity for you to hurl insults at others. Do try learning how to interact with others like an mature adult please.

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12:51 pm, Aug 12, 2009
evae1960

I'm no Democrat, but I do like the party I'm affiliated with not to treat me like an imbecile, which is exactly what I feel like every time I watch Fox News these days. I cannot fathom why I ever believed the lies the GOP concocted to stay in power. It is painful for those of us who thought the Republican Party stood for something meaningful to behold what has become of it.

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11:06 pm, Aug 13, 2009
MariosRight

I am a registered Indie who supported McCain in 2000 and would have voted for him in 08. I ran like heII when he chose Palin to be a heartbeat away from the top spot.

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10:08 am, Aug 12, 2009
SimonSaize

I have never seen Ann Coutler as conservative, I see her as a celebrity that plays into that social agenda and psychology to make money as an entertainer. She is also amusing.
As far as people who prescribe to any party (Democrat or Republican) its actually Un-American when it comes to public policy, each party has its agenda that caters to a populous-segregating is a discriminatory practice. And every roll over season as one party changes hands to another- the lives of the opposing seem to alter. Its almost as if each party fuels their personal beliefs and religious, social agenda's into the entire population to show domination- with the hopeful outcome of crushing the lives of others for personal satisfaction. To gratify their belief, prove a point.
It tends to discriminate, aggravate and almost always there is a violent outcome, in a fricking church, some odd public forum, etc.
Truly and seriously you are all a bunch of complete pyscho-paths, with odd agenda's, arguments and some other bullshit "issue" which generally pertains to a gripe regarding another's personhood.
Its a game.
You know the two party system is going to end soon. I also don't think females over 40 should finger themselves, either in private or public. Why? Because thats my new rule.In fact I am going to write a new set of rules pertaining to conservative living.

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1:10 am, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

DUDE, ANN COULTER WAS FIRED TWICE FROM MSNBC. YOU THINK SHE WANTS TO ENTERTAIN THAT MUCH THAT SHE RISKS LOSING HER CAREER. SHE'S LUCKY THERE'S A NETWORK OUT THERE THAT LOVES RACISTS LIKE HER. OR ELSE SHE'D BE ON A STREET CORNER WITH A SIGN AND BULLHORN SCREAMING "FREE SPEECH IS A RIGHT"

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4:29 pm, Aug 11, 2009
beafrank

Innov: Being fired from MSNBC is a badge of honor since the sucking sound you hear is the NBC network going down the drain. Ann makes more money than most of us with her syndicated column, books, TV and radio appearances and speaking engagements. Her legal, political and historical knowledge coupled with her insights on social and cultural themes makes her a formidable debater and speaker. I challenge you to find any evidence of racism in any of her presentations.

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10:03 pm, Aug 11, 2009
republicansareidiots

What the hell does McCain mean that Cash for Clunkers has been a mess? It has actually worked incredibly well. Yes, sometimes -- often, even -- government programs can be hugely successful. That's why it ran out of money: it worked so well, everyone wanted to take advantage of it.

All the Republicans I have met who try to push for privatization and corporate control of everything, arguing that government is a big bureaucracy, have apparently never worked for a corporation. News flash: corporations are bureaucracies as well, rife with corruption, greed and incompetence. That's why we need tougher regulation of industries and markets, and that's why it's often a good idea to let the government run certain things that we all use and need. For example, the building and maintenance of highways, or amassing a military to defend the country, or providing health care for old people.

The tired Republican mantra (embraced even by pretty, nice-girl, non-mean Republicans like Meghan McCain) of "government is bad, private is good" only makes sense if you are a mentally deficient child-equivalent who has had no experience of the real world. Other than that tired mantra, the only things Republicans have going for them are the continued prevalence in America of racism, homophobia, xenophobia, and the greed of those who keep themselves rich by cleverly exploiting all those phobias of the ignorant and poor.

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1:22 am, Aug 11, 2009
Quetzalcoatl

"I idealistically believe in the Republican Party, and I also have an emotional connection to it."

When did you develop this deep emotional connection? When you registered as an Independent? Or in 2004, when you voted for the Democrat for President? Or was it a year ago, when your Dad was the GOP candidate?
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Congratulations on the big Twitter victory. I'm not sure how that compares to the thousands of people who are willing to pay 20 bucks each to read Malkin's research and commentary. When your book eventually comes out, let's see how many copies you move.
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Paragraph three is nothing but straw men. Awesome. Very Obama of you.
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You spend all your time being negative about Republicans, who are you to tell them to be positive? The nation is consumed with debating Obama's and the Democrat's attempt to take over the health industry, and you write nothing but tripe about a hugely popular and best-selling Conservative Republican or why you love bikers. If you ever hope to be taken seriously by actual Republicans instead of patronized by Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow, et al., quit promoting yourself and start promoting Conservative policies.

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1:35 am, Aug 11, 2009
Youwot

Meghan,
Why are you wasting your energy fighting an old guard that hasn't yet hit rock bottom?

Have you considered taking yourself off to Europe/Canada/Oz etc to, maybe, do a Masters/ Doctorate....... I think that it might be a good useful for you to really experience what it is like to live in a so-called 'socialist' country - and live first hand the pros and cons of the system. I have a hunch that you might actually appreciate it. But failing that - you will at least be able to better articulate the problems.

And don't worry - the pendulum always swings. The Republican Party will still be here when you get back - and they will still be in opposition. But hopefully by then they will be ready to confront their problem.





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1:42 am, Aug 11, 2009
maryblair

"Have you considered taking yourself off to Europe/Canada/Oz etc to, maybe, do a Masters/ Doctorate..."

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! You really don't have the first clue about Meghan McCain, do you?

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3:39 am, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

She just wants the Beltway job she considers her birthright, going to parties and being on TV. She will be a useful idiot for the Dems, if her father's party is out of power. Unfortunately, she takes after the old man more than her beautiful and worldly mother.

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10:36 am, Aug 11, 2009
beafrank

possum: Ditto on your comment of Cindy McCain, a genuine humanitarian.

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3:19 am, Aug 13, 2009
RodzillaMcCloud

John McCain should get out of the party, they had it right from the start, he's too old. He also wants to let all illegal immigrants stay here in America so we can pay the bill for them. I have no problem with legal immigrants, but illegals should be forced to go home. The real reason democrats and republican alike support immigration reform is that they want the illegal immigrants to vote for them. Screw what the vast majority of the American people want. This country is pretty much doomed , we have no real leaders in any party. They are all looking out for number one and 'we' the American people don't really matter to them. If anyone catches a break it's not us, it's always someone from another country. What ever break the government gives the illegals no matter the cost. we have to pay for it. it's getting tired and needs a break, how about we look out for our self for a change. Let's give 'we" the people a break for a change, I think we deserve it.

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1:42 am, Aug 11, 2009
dcbooknurse

Illegal immigrants can't vote. That pretty much negates all the rest of your rant.

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8:47 am, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

They will with ACORN conducting the census. Dead people, Dallas cowboys and pets will vote, too.

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10:36 am, Aug 11, 2009
bhavanibbana

@possumdearie
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jun/26/michele-b achmann/michele-bachmann-claims-acorn-getting-money-work-c/
Getting your facts from Michele Bachmann? For shame!

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1:37 pm, Aug 11, 2009
innovations

BEFORE ANY OF YOU WASTE YOUR TIME USING POLITIFACT AS A SOURCE, LOOK AT WHO THEIR CONTRIBUTERS ARE: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/subjects/pundits/

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4:46 pm, Aug 11, 2009
bhavanibbana

@innovations
Err, those are pundits whose statements they've examined.
This is their staff:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/staff/

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8:32 am, Aug 12, 2009
possumdearie

First, you cited the St. Petersburg Times. You should mention that with the misleading title of their "Politifact" column. WHICH SAYS THAT ACORN IS CONDUCTING THE CENSUS, albeit with other groups.

This was my source.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124623459227366517.html

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2:56 pm, Aug 11, 2009
bhavanibbana

Actually, the article says that ACORN is one of 30,000 partner organizations (the article you cited actually says 40,000), whose purpose is to disseminate information about census positions, not to actually conduct the census. As both articles state, this is an unpaid partnership. Also, as both articles state, while it is a possibility that ACORN members could be hired to conduct the census, they have the same chance as any other citizens. Furthermore, such a chance would exist regardless of the partnership.
I'm not sure why it is relevant that Politifact is run by the St. Pete Times; it's a Pulitzer-prize winning site. Nonetheless, I assume you're implying liberal bias. In which case, well done countering with that centrist publication, the WSJ.(Perhaps not so well done, as it didn't actually contradict the Politifact article with any facts...Did you completely read both articles?)
Do you have the same objection to FactCheck? http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/acorn-and-the-census/

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3:58 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

How is ACORN unpaid? They still got tons of money in the spendulus bill. They also have hundreds of aliases and umbrella affiliations. And how is it that ACORN is still supposedly not conducting the census? And no, I wasn't implying liberal bias. I was saying that screaming PANTS ON FIRE doesn't pass the smell test, unless you back it up with actual Poitical Facts, which Politifact did not. Again, both articles said ACORN is conducting the census, however Politifact was rather histrionic.

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10:07 pm, Aug 11, 2009
bhavanibbana

I stated that in this specific instance, they were not being paid, just like the other 30,000 organizations.
ACORN is not conducting the census because NO ONE is. Both articles are in regards to ACORN distributing information about census positions. This doesn't give ACORN members an edge in any way. Is it possible that someone working for ACORN might be hired? Sure, but that could happen regardless of their participation in this program. Quit hiding behind this bogeyman and step into the realm of factual debate.
Speaking of facts, did you happen to peruse the entire page on the Politifact article? If you did, you'll notice they cite a number of sources for their article, including FOX NEWS. Imagine that.

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8:31 am, Aug 12, 2009
possumdearie

Again. Claiming bias was not the point of my linking the WSJ. I read the links you put up, and the point still remains. ACORN will be conducting the census. Even if it is an "unpaid volunteer partnership", the organization receives a lot of money from the Democratic party. It's a housing slush fund. From the WSJ

"In the wake of accusations of voter fraud in the 2006 and 2008 elections, the partnership isn't sitting well with some Republicans on Capitol Hill who worry that Acorn could skew results. There's a lot at stake since the census is used to dole out money to states and localities and to allocating seats in the U.S. House of Representatives."

Two things: This job was traditionally done by the Department of Commerce instead of political action groups and community organizers. Second, the risk of sampling should make this whole proposal illegal, as it is specifically barred by our Constitution.

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9:46 am, Aug 12, 2009
innovations

RodzillaMcCloud The real reason democrats and republican alike support immigration reform is that they want the illegal immigrants to vote for them.@@@ ANOTHER UNEDUCATED REPUBLICAN WHO GETS HIS INFORMATION FROM FOX AND LIMBAUGH. DUDE, OBAMA SPONSORED THE SECURE FENCE ACT. The Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109-367) was enacted October 26, 2006[1] in the United States. The act allows for over 700 miles (1,100 km) of double-reinforced fence to be built along the border with Mexico, across cities and deserts alike, in the U.S. states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas in areas that have experienced illegal drug trafficking and illegal immigration. It authorizes the installation of more lighting, vehicle barriers, and border checkpoints, while putting in place more advanced equipment like sensors, cameras, satellites and unmanned aerial vehicles in an attempt to watch and control illegal immigration into the United States. Officials say that it will help cut down on the number of illegal vehicles that go back and forth across the border bringing illegal drugs-----KEEP SHOWING YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE YOU'RE MAKING IT EASIER FOR 2012

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4:36 pm, Aug 11, 2009
labman57

The conservative base of the GOP has been disassociating itself from its more moderate membership for a while now. Every time someone from their inner circle opens his/her mouth, their appeal to the majority of Americans further plummets.

At the current rate at which these Limbaugh-lovers are burning their bridges, the only way they will be able to return to the White House is by a coup.

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1:46 am, Aug 11, 2009
MariosRight

Judging by the remarks of some of the rw radicals, you can bet that coup in prominent in their thoughts. They just don't have the nerve to act on it. Remember the 400 threats on Obama's life! Just what part of our society did they come from? Certainly not Dems, moderate Repubs, or indies. Who does that leave? Read between the lines of some of the posters on various news boards.

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10:19 am, Aug 12, 2009
ittybittykitty

Meghan, When your dad got the nomination, I was really excited. Even though I was an Obama supporter, I have always liked your dad. For once I felt like I would be pretty comfortable if either candidate won. Then your dad ruined it all by picking Palin as his running mate. Why, oh why? She is representative of all the hate that seems to be steering the Republican party these days. I think it is sad. We have some important issues to deal with in this country and this hateful tone is not productive. Good luck with trying to change this in your party. I hope you succeed. I am tired of all of the ugliness and lies.


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2:07 am, Aug 11, 2009
daddynobucks

ittybitty

Good point. I had the same feeling at the beginning of the presidential campaign. I thought we had two candidates that I liked and I might actually have a hard time deciding. But as soon as the campaign started I started asking myself "Who is this guy? This is not John Mcain" anymore." This is a perfect example of what Megan is talking about. Once the republican party made Mcain tow the right wing line, the election was lost.

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10:41 am, Aug 11, 2009
Dymero

While I am more inclined to agree with you on a lot of things, Meghan, the notion of the Democrats as being more inclusive than the Republicans is one I can't agree on.

Since I myself have been writing over the past year or so, I've seen enough stories of the Democrats' own purge attempts, and the Obama administration's attempts to try and shut up dissent about the health care plan to make me see the Democrats as little different than the Republicans in this respect. Obama may have run on inclusiveness, but he hasn't been living up to his own message in recent days.

At least most Republicans seem more inclined to actually want to debate you on an issue rather than tell you why you're wrong, why they're right, and why you should just shut up now.

This dismissive attitude toward moderates is actually very bi-partisan and is nothing new. But don't pretend that the Democrats are any better, because they're not.

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2:15 am, Aug 11, 2009
djanimaequeen

Malkin is the one that needs to STFU. Meghan you should just kick the bitch's ass.

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2:39 am, Aug 11, 2009
TheRuralJuror

Oh that's nice. You sound just like Megs.

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8:03 am, Aug 11, 2009
daddynobucks

That is a terrible and politically incorrect thing to say, but if it was on pay per view I'd sign up.

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10:43 am, Aug 11, 2009
djanimaequeen

Exactly. Sometimes nice doesn't cut it. But an ass whoppin does. CAT FIGHT!!!

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3:59 pm, Aug 11, 2009

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2:49 am, Aug 11, 2009
keepakeeper43

lol!
(Hello! What topic are you commenting on?)

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7:52 am, Aug 11, 2009
Yogini369

Gerry,
Thank you and please keep repeating yourself until everyone hears and/or reads those words :-)

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8:19 am, Aug 11, 2009
daddynobucks

Nice! And it is relevant to every discussion of Obama's policies. We find ourselves in a point in history where the need and the opurtunity for change have converged. We have a dynamic president attempting to lead us into the 21st century but a difficult situation is made even more difficult because he's dragging an anchor made of people stuck in the past and fearful of change.

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10:51 am, Aug 11, 2009
magoo363

I was going to post something original but read the last two comments. They summed up what I was going to say.

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3:01 am, Aug 11, 2009
MariosRight

Me too!

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10:21 am, Aug 12, 2009
carolinem

This whole column is insane. I read every word of the online question/answer session with Michelle Malkin. The thing was just about wrapped up when the moderator thought to ask one more question...something about who Malkin would like to hear less from on the conservative side, and conversely, who she liked/respected on the liberal side. I thought it was a pretty interesting question. Michelle very briefly and sincerely answered: "Less Meghan McCain." And for the second part of the question she said "Tommy Christopher is an honest Lib." THAT WAS IT. No discussion, no trashing, end of online Q&A session. But once again, Meghan is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill because she so dearly loves playing the role of victim. Her nasty temper got the best of her and she immediately Twittered: "I don't give a F**K about Michelle Malkin!"

Here's a great quote by Megs: "What do Malkin and the other conservative pundits hope to accomplish by arguing that people "like me" have no place within the Republican Party?" Um, Meghan. LOL!! I hate to burst your bubble but where do you see Coulter, Ingraham, and Malkin arguing about anything whatsoever that has to do with you??? Are you delusional or is that just wishful thinking on your part? Other than Coulter and Ingraham making a couple of snide comments about you a long time ago, they ignore you...completely. You are not even on their radar screens.

You really should stop pulling your victim act. It's old and stale. ("You don't want me to have a voice in the party because I'm female, or I go to biker rallies, or I'm a blonde, or I'm a moderate, or I'm young, or I have a tattoo, or I'm a badass, or I'm a rebel, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah.") It has nothing to do with any of that. It has to do with the fact that you act like a spoiled little brat, you have a chip on your shoulder two miles wide, and your IQ is 12.

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3:04 am, Aug 11, 2009
PhxAnGeL

I like what your doing with the party...I am registered Independent because I don't "fit" into the republican party because i am atheist and pro-choice..other than that I have mainly conservative views, but am not accepted by republicans. I hope that changes someday.

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3:19 am, Aug 11, 2009
maryblair

I would just love to know what the Meghan McCain supporters think she's going to do for the party. Seriously, WHAT is it that she can possibly do?? She knows absolutely zero about the issues. For the most part she just parrots her dad. Why in the name of God would anybody be rooting for this moron?

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3:33 am, Aug 11, 2009
Portmanteau

Like understanding issues has ever stopped a politician from spouting nonsense. Wake Up.

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5:25 am, Aug 11, 2009
maryblair

Politicians do spout a lot of nonsense but they have an understanding of the issues. The only thing Meghan McCain understands is Twitter. But go ahead and make Meggie your leader, and we'll just see what happens.

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6:24 am, Aug 11, 2009
shortcourse

Some lib lights think that the republican party can be resurected by becomming democrat lights....well that seems like a good game plan if your a liberal democrat. Fortunately, we have voices like Ms Malkin who have more common sense than the entire democratic party. And if the conservatives go down in another election...it's better to die with good ideals than bad behavior.

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6:23 am, Aug 11, 2009
tmoverbeck

And when the conservatives keep losing election after election, that'll just prove that they are clueless, not to mention stubborn.

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7:11 am, Aug 11, 2009
Ritarita

Shorty-
We've all seen
The Conservative's good ideas
In action for the last eight years-
No one wants another look.
The country was run off a cliff by war-mongers
And defense contractors who didn't have
The beginning of an idea how to govern.
And now you're saying that a brown-skinned
Woman with the brain of a racist
Has common sense?
Maybe in bizarro upside-down world-
But not in the USA anymore.
We've had it with crazy.

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8:16 am, Aug 11, 2009
andres

Good ideals like Stanford, Craig, Vitter, Ensign, Stanley, Gingrich, Lott, et al?

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9:52 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

She can show her big boobies and get more black men to vote for Republicans.

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10:37 am, Aug 11, 2009
bhavanibbana

Stay classy there, Possum!

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4:13 pm, Aug 11, 2009
possumdearie

Seriously, she has no policy she would like to discuss; she has no relevant experience; she calls the people she claims to speak for are hateful racists.

MegaloManiac might as well be grinding on the pole for these diverse votes. She is Paris Hilton without the sex tape. Hell, Paris Hilton has a job. Meghan McCain should get a f****** job. That would be classy!

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10:11 pm, Aug 11, 2009
SFGiants

Well, you just wrote yourself off as white trash.

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12:58 am, Aug 12, 2009
possumdearie

I've been called worse, and I bet you have, too! And your mom's a whore.

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9:47 am, Aug 12, 2009
revcat

Oh, you are so mature! Get a life!

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5:55 pm, Aug 21, 2009
frontman9000

Why would anyone in their right mind be rooting for Malkin or Coulter? Meghan makes much more sense than either one of those monsters.

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2:06 pm, Aug 11, 2009
FairNYC

And what do you think malkin has done, besides bash Obama and the Democrat party?

She has done nothing constructive to grow the GOP, nothing at all.

You think Malkin is the bomb because like her you are on the Far Right, angry with society and mad that you have been left behind.

Too bad, Malkin doesn't get the party, we are not allowing it.

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7:22 pm, Aug 11, 2009
MurrayAbraham

Yawn.

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3:34 am, Aug 11, 2009
cbl99201

Meghan, the Reublicans aren't going to learn they need to be inclusize until they lose at least another couple of elections. They've gone through denial (of their loss of power), now they are angry (because they feel that is unjustifiable). They will have to go through both bargaining and depression before they finally arrive at acceptance (that they need to modify their platform to be a national power again).

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