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Robert Rubin's Agony
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What keeps the former Clinton economic star up at night? Friends blame him for the Citigroup fiasco. And Rubin can't figure out how he didn't see it coming.
People who know Robert Rubin say he never thought that it would end this way. In a span of about 10 years, the former Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton pulled off an amazing feat—going from the man who saved the economy to one of those responsible for its demise as a senior executive and board member of the hopelessly troubled banking giant Citigroup.
It is an amazing about-face for someone who has wielded so much influence and achieved so much success in the power centers of New York and Washington over the past four decades. Before becoming Treasury secretary during the economic boom of the Clinton presidency, Rubin served as CEO of Goldman Sachs. Since leaving Washington, he spent the last 10 years as a board member and senior executive at Citigroup, which for a time was the prototype of the modern Wall Street firm, with its financial “supermarket” business model that offered every banking and brokerage service imaginable. In time, however, Citi became the poster child for the financial crisis that has plunged the country into one of history’s steepest recessions after its massive and costly bet on toxic real-estate debt.
“Bob feels pretty strongly that what happened at Citi wasn’t his fault,” says one associate. “He also knows that he faces an uphill battle changing people’s opinion about the matter.”
It is his role at Citigroup during this time that has damaged Rubin’s legacy, possibly beyond repair. He has been ridiculed in the press. He found his picture prominently displayed with other board members on the front page of the New York Post under the headline “Bounce These Bozo Bankers,” which pointed out that Rubin made close to $110 million during his time at Citigroup, while shares fell from above $50 to below $5, wiping out billions of dollars of shareholder wealth in the process, as he became richer.
Even among his peers on Wall Street, who revered him for so long, there is a general belief that Rubin is fairly culpable for the Citigroup implosion that led to a massive government bailout. This general belief, even among people who consider themselves friends, is what keeps Rubin up at night, according to people who know him. “Bob feels pretty strongly that what happened at Citi wasn’t his fault,” says one associate. “He also knows that he faces an uphill battle changing people’s opinion about the matter.”
One reason Rubin is so concerned about his reputation is that even now, eight months “retired” from Citigroup, he commands respect and influence. He keeps an office on Park Avenue at the Council on Foreign Relations and has a regular business schedule. He often travels to Washington to speak with his good friend and protégé, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, now the president’s chief economic adviser, to discuss what he likes to talk about most: economic policy. Recently, Rubin even had a sit-down with President Obama on the subject.
People who know Rubin say what keeps him going at age 70 is that he is still very much part of the public-policy debate, albeit in a behind-the-scenes way, and he would like to keep it that way. (It is one reason he won’t talk publicly with me about these issues.) Unfortunately, Rubin is also still very much part of the debate surrounding the disaster known as Citigroup, including the questions over whether the troubled company should be broken up, whether its CEO, Vikram Pandit (a man Rubin helped hire), has the chops to remain in that position, and most importantly, who’s to blame for the bank’s tragic downfall—one of the key events in the great financial crisis of 2008.
It’s that blame that Rubin can’t seem to shake; in fact it’s becoming more intense as the one year anniversary of the financial crisis’s most turbulent period approaches. And as the debate about Rubin’s culpability grows among the chattering classes, people who know Rubin say this debate is also growing inside his head. Rubin has been privately wrestling with his role as senior adviser to former Citi CEOs Sandy Weill and Chuck Prince when the risk taking began (and reached immense proportions), and falling back on the fact that he didn’t have “operating responsibilities,” meaning he had authority but no direct responsibility to manage those risk takers.
He concedes that he advocated more risk taking, but he says he wanted Citi to do it smartly, “like we did it at Goldman,” he has said. (What makes him feel bad is that he knows that even his old friends on Wall Street say he needs to own up to the damage caused by that wild risk taking.)









Not a nice guy. Arrogant a-hole, like Tim G., L Summers. They should all be in jail with B. Madoff. George Patton
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There are a litany of laws to cover their crimes. We can start with Bank Fraud all the way through Money laindering...Oh and BTW if you think you "need a law" to jail them you're wrong...
I bet he ripped off plenty of money in his time. They always do.
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Securities Fraud- Sold off major blocks of Citi stock on insider information ahead of announcements of massive losses. It was not just Rubin. It was essentially the entire management of Citi.
The SEC has the complaint but you know how those things turn out...
This is just more proof that the Clinton administration was really Republican, following the same free market/free trade philosophy. Clinton and Reagan were both part of the Second Gilded Age, and had a hand in leading us into another Great Depression.
Dick Morris and Bubba got together and called it "triangulation". Give in a little to the left, a little to the right and Bubba gets a second term.
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George-
Jesus Christ it's good to hear from you. I thought you bought it back in 45 when that truck squashed your car. Remember those German bastards at Kasserine - those were the days. I can't believe Ike stuck you in Palermo after that, but wanted to say you did a helluva job in Europe. Too bad Ike let that little prick Montgomery screw things up with Market Garden.
Damn glad to hear you're still in the game. Give my regards to Bea.
Mengle's boys got hold some of my DNA before they beat it to Argentina and cloned me. Got some of Bea's too; she's right here with me now. Thank God they didn't get any of Monty's, insufferable bastard! George Patton
Hey, Mr. Patton! -- What about Willie? Did he make it to the 21st century?
Gen. Patton:
I thought Ike and the OSS offed you because you wanted to keep going and fight the Russkies!
I'm a former PaineWenner broker. As an insider of sorts, my disrespect for Rubin (and Alan Greenspan) grew simply from their policy initiatives, lack of any real ethics and of course, lack of oversight. Same for SEC Chairman Arthur Levitz. None had any problem raping the markets in the name of profits. Name of the game I suppose. But I know for a fact no credible broker would sell the crap they were promoting. On the other hand, obviously, many did.
This whole debacle comes down to a simple matter of INVESTMENT vs. SPECULATION!
Our capitalist system is based on investments funding entrepreneurial growth in order to provide optimal financial opportunity for society at large.
The role of the financial industry (Wall Street) in this system is to steward those funds to a free market.
It is not to usurp those funds in the form of speculative trading and lavish compensation, in order to engorge the net worth of a select cabal of Wall Street traitors - I meant traders!
This transformation from investment to speculation was codified through systemic changes in the law enacted during the Clinton administration (Rubin, Summers, Raines, etc) and ran amok during the Bush years.
GREED, not capitalism, drove both this process and our economy off a cliff!.
I and my associates are in the process of presenting a tenable and reasoned thesis on the OBLIGATION of government to oversee not only process, but also compensation regarding the financial industry.
(It will be posted on 'thewallstreetpirates.com' - now under construction - and will be widely disseminated to public officials and the media.)
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Charlie, you can tell the Feudal Lords of the Street that the days of $40 crab legs are coming to an end!
btw, (personal preference) as far as business/finance channels go CNBC is still #1; Bloomberg #2; FBN #3...but as an aside, I was surprised to find you on The daily beast!?? - what are you doing here?
Robert Rubin could make an enormous contribution to his Country. First, he needs to bore deep into the inner workings of his mind.
One of the many things he needs to own and fess up to is ignoring the conflict of interest between the dismantling of the Glass-Steagall Act and his landing his unique and very lucrative job at Citigroup.
He needs to rethink the paradigm of the financial world's relationship to the rest of the world. Why should firms too-big-to-fail exist? Why should they be extraordinarily profitable during boom periods and the executives still be given absurdly large compensation even while playing a major role in wreaking the world economy and being bailed out by Washington?
After very serious soul searching, these are but a few questions that Robert Rubin could address. If he did that, he could be a giant among men, but the executives on Wall Street probably would scorn him. Also, he may find himself not being very popular in Washington.
Which is more important to you Mr. Rubin being in with the in-crowd on Wall Street or the welfare of your Country?
Rise to the occasion, Mr. Rubin.
Robert Rubin: If you would like to explore the suggestions I posted earlier, contact me at http://rallbritton.com, ~richard allbritton, Miami
Do you really think that Robert Rubin reads the comments section of The Daily Beast?
I think you're right on the money. He may not have "seen it coming" but by now, he should be very well aware of his conscious efforts to make it possible for this collapse to happen.
Rubin is a disgrace as are Greenspan, Summers and Geithner. They all thought the market would regulate itself. Goldman Sachs and all the rest are STILL doing the SAME risky deals that put this country is the shape it's in now.
When the top tier of our society cannot even take responsibility for their actions we are up-the-creek. In Japan the shame would have led these guys to give their money away to poor people, and, either commit Hari-Kari, or become a monk. These guys just continue in their self-delusional state.
It's must be difficult for former Masters of the Universe to realise their galaxy has imploded AND they did it.
Anyone who hasn't worked in corporate America at the manager or above level, really has no idea how of what passes for business methods is pure ego. In some cases meglomania.
Rubin should have known better and maybe he did. The issue is he did nothing. The self serving "I didn't have operational responsiblity" is a cop out. If the Board room were on fire would he not grab a fire extingusher because he's not a fireman?
As a highly paid member of the Board of Directors he had a fidicuary responsiblity to the SHAREHOLDERS. Instead, he took the money and kept his mouth shut.
Sadly he's one among many.
Didn't the whole Internet bubble/crash happen under Rubins watch?
It's easier to get to the top than to stay there. Only the really great ones pull that off. The smartest know to get out as soon as they get there.
Mr. Rubin's regrets probably don't match the country's regret that he rose to the top of the political heap and the financial heap.
Thank you for finally explaining how a Dem Prez (Clinton) could have been benighted enough to repeal an Act put in place by our wiser forebears to avoid a recurrence of the Great Depression.
I find it hard to feel pity for Mr. Rubin. 100 million dollars should be enough to keep him comfortable. Scores of people lost their investments for education, retirement and nest eggs. Scores more are unemployed because of this disaster. There is such misery that was created because of the crash for so many people. Mr. Rubin still has all the comforts of wealth. All on the backs of the rest of us.
Yes, Angela, and we are not just talking of the recent past, we are also talking about today's Citigroup which just awarded their star "energy trader" one, Andrew Hall a bonus for last year of another $100,000,000.00
Afterall, what's a hundred million dollars compared to the $50 billion pumped into Citigroup by that other disgrace Hank Paulson?
I love how these guys ruin companies, cause financial havoc, walk away with millions, then look to the public for sympathy because they have a few sleepless nights. Those who have seen their retirement funds cut-in-half in the period of a few weeks have also had a few sleepless nights, without the millions to get them back to sleep.
charlie gasparino is clearly the journalist to review: GE is the next enron.
All these masters of the universe came out looking like certified dunces. And this particular dunce gets paid $110 million. Only in America.
The top executives who got rich while impoverishing thousands of people are still living very well. The politicians like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who made it all happen are still in office, with excellent health insurance and generous retirement pensions awaiting.
I did not know that ony Democrat politicians made it happen!
The Best and the Brightest
McNamara and Vietnam
Greenspan/Rubin et al the economy
This blog.is an idiotic apologia for Rubin Does he sleep so badly at night that he's willing to recapitalize Citi with the money he ignominiously took out ? Is Citi best served by that moron Richard Parson as Chairman? He's another destroyer of value (See Time Warner - AOL) whose only credential appears to be his race...
The other side of the Bob Rubin policy coin was that he was extremely concerned about a shortage of credit and banking services in disadvantaged communities. At the time, this seemed so compassionate and progressive. In reality, once the regulations and restrictions were lifted on the banking industry, they became preditors.
I fear the same thing is happening to the health care insurance industry.
I can think of one reason that Baby Boomers like Clinton and Rubin didn't see another crash coming. They did not live through the Great Depression and knew little or nothing of the history of that time, so they repeated the same mistakes as the 1920s and the First Gilded Age--and naturally got the same results.
I hope Generation X knows better, since most of what we've seen in America in our adult lives has been depressions, recessions, stagflation, crashes, etc, etc. The Baby Boomers didn't have that experience when they were growing up, but we have seen hardly anything else.
You've described the problem accurately, IMO. But to you think the federal Reserve caused any of those problems, after all they span the era of which you speak from 1913 to the present.
Lenin and some others knew that to destabilize the country the best way is to undermine the financial system and to debauch or debase the currency. Seems that has happened in a big way already, no?
Always amazed when people blame the 'boomers' for this mess. Rubin is 70, he doesn't qualify. As a 'boomer' I agree we were part of the team that helped create this mess but we had plenty of help from every other generation and from the left and right. You are right, I didn't live through the depression, the late 70's and early 80's those were the days to be a boomer. 10% unemployment, OPEC, lines at the gas station, stagflation, 12-15% mortgage rates (30 year fixed rate) and let's not forget the market crash in 1987.
Liberals, conservatives (at least what passes for conservative today) the greatest generation, boomer, gen x all played a part in this.
And PLEASE don't make Summers head of the Federal Reserve. Try to leave one part of economic policy in this country that is not totally in the hands of Wall Street crooks and their "free market" philosophy.
He won't
Lose Bernanke.
The Chinese would be
Most uncomfortable without
His familiar predictability.
Poor Rubin. His reputation has taken a hit and all he got out of it was a measly $110M.
"Wasn't his fault"! Who does he think was in charge? Another arrogant Wall Street guy who made his reputation in the good old unregulated days. He is without any character at all. Fall on the knife and give the money back. The retired who you stole it from should not forgive you till you do.
I would not be in the same room as this crook or Charles Manson. The only difference is that Manson admits he's evil.
"Bob feels pretty strongly that what happened at Citi wasn't his fault," ...and everybody who works & worked at Citi feel pretty strongly it was his fault! If you want a good story ask anybody about his fly fishing exploits at the expense of the firm....the man is a joke!
Sorry for the re-post, but I believe this is fundamentally effects every aspect of our society:
This whole debacle comes down to a simple matter of INVESTMENT vs. SPECULATION!
This transformation from investment to speculation was codified through systemic changes in the law enacted during the Clinton administration (Rubin, Summers, Raines, etc) and ran amok during the Bush years.
GREED, not capitalism, drove both this process and our economy off a cliff!.
I and my associates are in the process of presenting a tenable and reasoned thesis on the OBLIGATION of government to oversee not only process, but also compensation regarding the financial industry.
(It will be posted on 'thewallstreetpirates.com' - now under construction - and will be widely disseminated to public officials and the media.)
"Sorry for the re-post, but I believe this is fundamentally effects every aspect of our society:"
The correct word is "affects".
thank you penscott,
always mixed those two up...especially when I'm just so infuriated as to how the Wall Street-Washington oligarchy perverted a perfectly workable - and (e)ffective - capitalist economy, and turned it into a self-serving economic caste system!
I've always said Clinton was a modern day carpetbagger with no core principals, and that's where this whole thing began.
Bush & the 'wall street' crowd, I expected this from, but not from the dems...and I'm really disappointed in Barry, that he's keeping the same rogues gallery of small-minded greedmongers in his administration now, as well.
Keep a watch for when thewallstreetpirates site goes live; we have a well-planned strategy for informing the public as to what's going on, and making this system work for the people again.
gee bob....sorry you're having a problem sleeping.....why not get hold dr.conrad murray.....understand he's looking for work and will move right in with you
Thank you.
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