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Who Will Give Teddy's Eulogy?

BS Top - Clarke Kennedy Eulogy AP Photo Obama, Biden, Kerry, and McCain will be among the speakers at Ted Kennedy's funeral services, but for decades, it has been a family tradition for the Kennedy brothers to eulogize their fallen siblings—John did it for Joe Jr., Bobby did it for John, and Teddy did it for Bobby. Now that the last brother has passed away, Kennedy biographer Thurston Clarke picks the perfect relative to bid farewell to the Lion of the Senate.

Until now, it has been the custom for the oldest surviving Kennedy brother to eulogize his fallen sibling. But who should deliver the eulogy for the last of the four Kennedy brothers?

After eulogizing his fallen brother, tears streamed down Bobby’s face as he left the stage, and for the next 15 minutes he sat alone on a fire escape, weeping.

After Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. died while undertaking a hazardous mission to bomb German V-bomb bases in France, Jack Kennedy collected reminiscences from relatives, classmates, and teachers, publishing them in the privately printed As We Remember Joe. The introduction served as Jack’s eulogy to Joe. "I sometimes wonder whether I ever really knew him," he wrote. "He had always a slight detachment from things around him–a wall of reserve which few people ever succeeded in penetrating [lines that could just as easily have been written about their author after his assassination]. . . . His worldly success was so assured and inevitable that his death seems to have cut into the natural order of things."

The Daily Beast's Complete Kennedy Coverage: Tributes, Photos, and VideosRobert Kennedy delivered a tribute to JFK at the 1964 Democratic National Convention in Atlantic City. After telling delegates, "When there were periods of crisis, you stood beside him. When there were periods of happiness, you laughed with him. And when there were periods of sorrow, you comforted him," he inserted a passage from Shakespeare into the prepared text and, in a voice choked with emotion, said, "When I think of President Kennedy, I think of what Shakespeare said in Romeo and Juliet: ‘When he shall die, take him and cut him out into stars, and he shall make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be love with the night, and pay no worship to the garish sun.’" Tears streamed down his face as he left the stage, and for the next fifteen minutes he sat alone on a fire escape, weeping.

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Four years later, it was Ted Kennedy, the youngest and last brother, who eulogized Bobby at his funeral in St Patrick’s Cathedral. His voice quivered and his eyes filled with tears as he said, "My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life, to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it. Those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world. As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him: ‘Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not.’"

Who in Ted’s family could deliver a speech comparable to his heartbreaking tribute to Bobby?

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August 26, 2009 | 1:36am
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thehammer

Seriously, why does this story need to end with speculation about Caroline's political posibilites? What a disservice to Mr. Kennedy. My prayers are with his whole family, and I mourn the loss of a complex man who served his legacy and country for 46 years

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2:48 am, Aug 26, 2009
garryboyle

I agree. This is a pretty tasteless and transparent attempt to glorify the individual whom the author believes is the next big Kennedy name.

I think the whole premise of the author opining on who should eulogize Teddy is downright weird and obnoxious. It's a family decision, so butt out.

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5:48 pm, Aug 27, 2009
semolinapilchard

I see TDB already had their stockpile of Ted Kennedy articles in the queue, waiting for the death announcement.

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2:49 am, Aug 26, 2009
Uncommonsense

Yes as did every other news organization large and small. And your point?

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8:21 am, Aug 26, 2009

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9:12 am, Aug 26, 2009

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10:50 am, Aug 26, 2009
museweaver

gees, we've got some mean spirited folks posting here

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11:30 am, Aug 26, 2009
AlanD2

jackee: Are you going to do this to Laura Bush when she dies?

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11:32 am, Aug 26, 2009

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11:55 am, Aug 26, 2009
gak001

Jackee... are you going to post that on every single article?

Have some class, you soulless shrew.

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12:11 pm, Aug 26, 2009
StellaRay

Joe Biden said today that Ted Kennedy was never petty, never small. Perhaps you could learn something from him, jackee.

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3:10 pm, Aug 26, 2009
seashell321

Get a life idiot!

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3:24 pm, Aug 26, 2009
byte007

For many years I made my share of unkind references about Ted Kennedy and the events that took place so many years ago at Chappaquiddick. As time passed and Ted Kennedy went on with his career and his life, I learned to respect the man. People make mistakes, sometimes tragic mistakes that cost lives. Like it or not, that's the way of the world. I truly am saddened by Ted Kennedy's passing. The Kennedy family is now, and always will be a remarkable part of our country's history, and this should be a time for remembering the best of their accomplishments over the years.
So... Jackee, give it a rest and keep the snide, juvenile remarks to yourself.

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3:33 pm, Aug 26, 2009
trotoff

If she was as evil as you are I'd say she got her just dues

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3:42 pm, Aug 26, 2009
POKEYPETE

You have to be a cold hearted person.

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4:59 pm, Aug 26, 2009
POKEYPETE

i sit and read some of these remarks, and it makes me sick to my stomach. How can people be so downright mean and dirty.Why can't you keep your sick remarks to your self.You might be surprised when you or a family member dies, and the horrible things they might say about you.

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5:04 pm, Aug 26, 2009
bambamman

Hate is such a conservative trait. It is proven that those obsessed with hate have smaller brains. We didn't need a study to prove it...

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5:30 pm, Aug 26, 2009
bambamman

She should.. she likely drank his drinks, spent his money and had sex with him...

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5:35 pm, Aug 26, 2009
gillimm55

Jackie, I understand a young women died, however it was called an accident not "an on purpose" I surely hope you have lead a life that has been perfect in everyway. I am not a democrat or a republican, but this man dedicated his life to our counrty and he deserves our thanks, and prayers.

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5:54 pm, Aug 26, 2009
johnjohn007

Hi Jackie on that night his tire was shot out. And they almost killed him. But he made it.And he lived for 40 more years They got his brothers but not him .And he fought hard for the little guy and all people.Teddy a true man for all the people. He will be missed. When he spoke it came from his heart not his pocket.

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5:59 pm, Aug 26, 2009
billwak

I've read some of this crap. I'm old enough too remember all of it. I'm just glad it's not me standing in front of GOD. I've got enough baggage of my own to answer too. GOD have mercy on his soul.

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6:09 pm, Aug 26, 2009
paulineprojectlove

jackee, you don't deserve that name. A far nobler woman carried it before you.

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6:14 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Mounty5199

I bet you don't believe the President was born in Hawaii, you do believe in carrying guns to political meetings, and you think it is terrible how picked on are both Bush and Cheney don't you, scumbag.

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6:14 pm, Aug 26, 2009
robin9770

Hey Jackee dont let these liberal cry babies get to you. Its a free country, will free until obama shoves the fairness doctrine down our throat.

YOUR COMMENT WAS FUNNY AND REMINDS PEOPLE OF THE TRUTH.
the truth is out there, but liberals want to hunt it down and kill it....

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6:30 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Kyanite7

You got that right.

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6:41 pm, Aug 26, 2009
feetlegs

No, moron ... she is dead. You couldn't care a rats ass about her anyway. Neanderthals like you just use her name as a crutch for your hatred of the Kennedy's, the Democratic party and all that is good about America. You are a loser punk, white trash lowlife who hasn't helped anyone your whole life and aren't fit to polish the shoes of this great man. HE accomplished more in one day on the US Senate than you will in your entire life, so go get permanently lost in your tiny little world, pinhead.

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7:53 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Mrs-Terrific

Jackee,
I'm with you. Ted Kennedy was not a saint by any stretch. There was never justice for Mary Jo because of the power of the Kennedy family. Chappaquideck is one of my earliest recollections of learning how unfair the justice system is when it comes to those with $$$$.
Let's not forget Joan Kennedy, either. Ted killed her too, but she's still walking around an old alchoholic woman with a broken soul. So, let's not get overly sentimental about old Teddy.

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8:03 pm, Aug 26, 2009
aadeniser

I hope she was the first soul to greet him when he got to the other side. Emmett Fox says we do actually see people we know on the other side, people we had good relationships with and bad relationships with. I take comfort in thinking he has finally had to answer for his misdeed.
I am not going to promote him to sainthood just because he died! I didn't have any respect for him in life and don't have any for him now either. I just wonder if any of the gov't thugs considered having the "end-of-life"conversation with him last year. And if he had had to be on the public option, how long would he have actually lived? Certainly not as long as he did, to be sure. As far as Laura Bush goes, I'm pretty sure she never got drunk, crashed into a river and killed somebody then ran off and lied about it.

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8:57 pm, Aug 26, 2009
billyboy949

There's a special place in hell for Laura Bush. We don't know what was going on with Ted and Mary Jo and unless you were there, you shouldn't be offering your tired freaking opinions. What we do know, however, is that Laura B. continued, night after night, to slip under the covers and reassure a man who slaughtered hundred's of thousands of people, tortured, raped and shamed us all. To condone and love a Manson-like war criminal, evil to the core, is to have pulled the trigger while smiling. The hypocrisy of her so called "human rights" work is laughable and won't help her or the demon spawn she married when their time comes....soon, I hope.

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4:05 pm, Aug 26, 2009
seethedeer

i think it should ne caroline kennedy she is a strong woman and i believe she would be mr. kennedys best because she is connected and family i grieve with my family over this it was expected but i guess noone ever believes until they are called home. he is in a much better place i am waiting in that line god bless the kennedy family, friends and collegues and all of us who have loved the kennedy's all our life
brenda

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4:55 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Mounty5199

Every good, even every bad, paper or news organization has an obit for nearly all important or famous people at all times. It is a news writing tradition. It is obvious and has been for sometime that Senator Kennedy was dying. It wasn't a secret, and having an obit prepared isn't a conspiracy. Don't worry, they don't have yours.

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6:12 pm, Aug 26, 2009
bulldurham48

I was in Pocono's when the good old Kennedy Family bought Mary Jo's family a nice retreat there. I guess the family figured they would get no justice in Mass, so they "took the money" and retired to the bliss of the Pocono's
Teddy was a druken creaton who whored around and acted like his name and money made him a god, what it really made him was an insufferable asshole who got what the Good Lord thought was his just reward. Sorry it ended so soon.

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7:01 pm, Aug 26, 2009
magicman

Nice article. This is very well thought out. Kudos to Mr. Clarke for a job well done.

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3:17 am, Aug 26, 2009
Old-Hippy

I was in High School when President Kennedy was killed. I was in the military when Robert Kennedy was killed, and now I'm retired and Ted Kennedy has died. I believed in Camelot, and I was going to vote for Robert Kennedy. Bless them all, and my they all have found peace.

Old Hippy

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4:51 am, Aug 26, 2009
Redhead5050

Me too...much sadness in my heart today.

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6:59 am, Aug 26, 2009
AlanD2

I was in college in Tennessee when President Kennedy was assassinated.

When his death was announced, most of the other students started celebrating and whooping with joy.

Our nation was divided then, and it seems to remain divided now.

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11:12 am, Aug 26, 2009
AMEN77

Why were they celebrating?

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6:23 pm, Aug 26, 2009
JJCraig

AlanD said " I was in college in Tennessee when President Kennedy was assassinated. When his death was announced, most of the other students started celebrating and whooping with joy. Our nation was divided then, and it seems to remain divided now."
I don't believe you. JFK was beloved by the entire country as Reagan was and both of these men loved and believed in their countrymen. When you are loved and trusted by your leader, you want to become your best self. We don't have that now, that's why we are divided.

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7:10 pm, Aug 26, 2009
ThinkAgain

AlanD2 You're full of it. You know it. We know it. You know we know it. Why do you make such a absolute fool out of yourself? You're a tiny tiny little human being.

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9:52 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Teuthida

Amen. Teddy, I always admired how your turned personal tragedy and your own immature mistakes into your career as one of our truly great Senators. Your concern for the welfare of the little guy was constant. If only we had 100 of you in the Senate.

RIP, Friend.

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1:21 pm, Aug 26, 2009
bostongal

One poster wrote: ' "He's been a senator for all who believe in a dream that's never died." She followed this with a litany of the causes he had championed-the Children's Health Insurance Program, Head Start, and student loans'
...and another that Ted's "concern for the welfare of the little guy was constant."

How sadly ironic that he certainly (IN HIS LATER YEARS, I REALIZE - since he gave up his earlier opposite views for political expediency in the Democratiic Party) had NO concern for the "littlest" guys prior to birth.

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2:52 pm, Aug 26, 2009
richardg8

If we had 100 like Teddy in the Senate, we'd be livin in a dictatorship. Oh, wait.....

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5:40 pm, Aug 26, 2009
aadeniser

Immature mistakes???? WHOA!!I bet Mary Jo's parents don't feel like it was an "immature mistake"

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9:00 pm, Aug 26, 2009
FlowerChild46

I also was in High School when President Kennedy was killed was a very sad day in history...May they all rest in peace

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2:51 pm, Aug 26, 2009
laf21953

I was in 5th grade when they announced over the loud speaker that President Kennedy had been shot. No one in my class cheered. We all sat in shock. I remember it like it was yesterday. I grew up in a conservative family and my parents were surprised when at 14, I joined Bobby's campaign. I remember Bobby's eulogy to JFK and Teddy's to Bobby as clear as if it had happened last week. Difficult to top.

I admired Teddy's work as a senator and feel sad today. RIP Teddy.

BTW, in 1969 my parents left the Republican party. Couldn't quite make the move to Democrat, but became Independents (fairly liberal independents). I left the Democratic Party in 1991 to become an independent. We are old now, but our politics are pretty much the same.

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5:59 pm, Aug 26, 2009
paulineprojectlove

I was just a baby when Jack and Bobbie were murdered. But I cried like a baby when John John left this world.And my heart grieves for this poor family, two deaths in one month. Two amazing people who worked so hard to help those who could not help themselves. Noble warriors, all of them. Thank the Irish gods for them all. But I feel so lost now, like a great protector is gone... Such a tragedy.

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6:17 pm, Aug 26, 2009
psrobinson

Ya old hippy, I was in the second grade when the president was shot. I remember it all very well. I was probably to young to understand politics but I did and Robert Kennedy was a great man also.

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6:18 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Mounty5199

As another "Old Hippy" who was in my first year of college when John was murdered, and in the military when Bobby was murdered, and Martin Luther King, this to me is one of the saddest days of my life. Despite being born to wealth and what could have been a life of just making more money, or enjoying what he had, like all the elder Kennedy's, he fought for the underprivileged, the poor, the minorities and those who no one else cared about, because many didn't or couldn't vote in this country at the time, he took them to his heart and defended them against the "Right Wingers" for all the RIGHT reasons.

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6:20 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Hotfrostins

I was in 2rd grade the day President JFK was assasinated, I can remember it vividly today still, something whispered down the hallways, we were sent home early without explanation, at home Mom was in tears till Dad arrived and then all 7 of us made a beeline to my Grandparents, everyone was there all 7 families, lots of tears and talk, as I realized how terrible it all was I cried also for our President, I was scared, they sent all the kids outside to play, shooing us away from the sorrow to the yard, something changed that day. Things were never the same after that.People were not as happy.
Today I look back over the Kennedy legacy,the sacrifices made and I have great respect for them and all they have accomplished,. One thing I think is particularly important to note is that in spite of all controversy and claims about thier personal lives and Joe Sr. bootlegging and associations. The fact is that all of his sons and heirs who have entered into public service have served the causes they believe in freely, willingly, fearlessly and they could never be bought, none have ever been bought. You have got to respect that. How many Republican or Democrats can match that record? Especially with all the money in politics today. There is a reason Ted commanded respect from many Republicans. May he rest in peace.

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11:13 pm, Aug 26, 2009
terry332

Crying, crying, since 2 a.m.; sad day for Americans lost of an American Hero from our American Royal Family.
Caroline if she's not to upset would be the perfect one to do Teddy's Eulogy.

God Bless his entire family.

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7:38 am, Aug 26, 2009
aspiecelia

I haven't been able to sleep. I am surprised how hard it hit me.

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1:12 pm, Aug 26, 2009
BRGMETZGER

I AGREE THIS HAS BOTHERED ME TO KNOW END I WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH WHEN KENNEDY GOT SHOT THEN I WAS PREGNANT WHEN ROBERT WAS SHOT NOW THIS CAMOLET IS CERTAINLY A LONELY PLACE NOW THAT THEY ARE MOSTLY GONE I PRAY FOR ALL OF THE FAMILY AND HOPE THAT ALL FIND PEACE

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1:30 pm, Aug 26, 2009
SherylPaylor

Why don't you stop being so cynical, jackee. If you did'nt like the guy, stop posting on this site. Obviously, no one else shares your thoughts

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4:05 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Odie2009

well... now that you mentioned it.... yes I do think she would be best to take over his Senate Seat..... thanks for the suggestion!!!
God Bless !!!

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4:37 pm, Aug 26, 2009
paulineprojectlove

Jackee, you're a real piece of doo doo. Go play in the street or something.
Or get a job where no OSHAH safety guidelines are being observed and breath in some cilica dust.

Ted created OSHAH, you got something to say about that, you goof ball?

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6:20 pm, Aug 26, 2009
robin9770

I share your thoughts....

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6:31 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Ammons

Lady, you are very cold.

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6:47 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Kyanite7

Even New York didn't want her.

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6:47 pm, Aug 26, 2009
aadeniser

paulineprojectlove
Jackee, you're a real piece of doo doo. Go play in the street or something.
Or get a job where no OSHAH safety guidelines are being observed and breath in some cilica dust.

Ted created OSHAH, you got something to say about that, you goof ball?

Pauline, He did not.Richard Nixon signed it into law in 1970. And it's OSHA, not OSHAH...Office of Safety and Health Administration

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9:32 pm, Aug 26, 2009
LindyS

I have no doubt that she does. The Kennedy sense of entitlement is boundless.

Now we are going to have to listen to the "fine qualities" of this drunken, murdering lout for months. It is going to be unbearable. Obama is no doubt thrilled--it will distract from the news of his decline.

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10:17 pm, Aug 26, 2009
angiem

I am saddened to hear of his passing. He has been a pillar of strength for his family, state and country. God Bless you Teddy and yes, Caroline would be the perfect choice for the eulogy.

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4:16 pm, Aug 26, 2009
CelticCrafter

American Hero - American Royal Family??? You're kidding right?

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6:02 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Pialamotem

Caroline would be very hard to listen to. Her lack of skill with public speaking would mar the service. John John would have been ideal, but he is otherwise occupied.

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6:43 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Kyanite7

If Caroline could talk without the ums and ahs, maybe she could to the Eulogy.

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6:46 pm, Aug 26, 2009
AntiqueSteve

I am sure others will cry for a long time with his liberal laws left behind. He was a person, not a saint. There are those that thought Michael Jackson was bigger than life and he was not. Ted even wanted to reverse the law he had created a few years back so the Governor could replace his seat. There are many Kennedy's and I feel he got a pass when he killed someone, walked away for 24 hours then money took care of him. He chose to be in the Senate and enjoyed years of being on top and seen around the world. It's time to move on now, correct the errors and doing better in the future.

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7:36 pm, Aug 26, 2009
downbytheriver00

Ted's eulogy for Bobby was beautiful and heartfelt and one of the best I've ever heard.

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8:23 am, Aug 26, 2009
sarakaplan

What about Ambassador Jean Kennedy Smith??

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10:30 am, Aug 26, 2009
AlanD2

dalelama: Then I'm sure you will celebrate when Laura Bush (W.'s wife) dies.

As a teenager, Laura Welch ran a stop sign, killing the sole occupant of the other vehicle that she hit.

Another cold-blooded killer for you...

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11:20 am, Aug 26, 2009
AlanD2

dalelama: Are you going to do this to Laura Bush when she dies?

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12:30 pm, Aug 26, 2009
AlanD2

dalelama & jbuzz1: If you kill somebody by accident, do the circumstances matter that much? Laura wasn't drunk, but she did make a mistake that caused another person to die.

You can rationalize all you want, but in this respect, she is very much like Ted Kennedy.

As are we all, to a greater or lesser degree.

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2:02 pm, Aug 26, 2009
elgratone

We would never be that lucky to get rid of three turds with only one dump

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5:22 pm, Aug 26, 2009
aadeniser

AlanD2
dalelama & jbuzz1: If you kill somebody by accident, do the circumstances matter that much? Laura wasn't drunk, but she did make a mistake that caused another person to die.

You can rationalize all you want, but in this respect, she is very much like Ted Kennedy.

As are we all, to a greater or lesser degree.

Seriously?? You see a parallel between Laura Bush and Teddy Kennedy?
Good Grief! That seems so naive. It's what happened AFTER the incident that shows the difference in the two people's character. To run away behind daddy's coattails and money is despicable.

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9:06 pm, Aug 26, 2009
althea

Such angry republicans. The man got in a car accident 40 years ago and plead guilty to leaving the scene--those are the facts. Everything else is speculation. Oh, he was driving with a woman in the car and he was married--a Sin! right?

Guys, there is enough good stuff that is current. L Craig, D Vitter, M Sanford, R. Limbaugh, B O'reilly...you don't need to go back 40 years and speculate. We have enough admitted Sinners right now!

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1:07 pm, Aug 26, 2009
ProPalin

Such angry republicans Everything else is speculation.

We only get angry when we hear bullsh!t, Dear. And Mary Jo's death was/is NOT speculation. Ted Kennedy drank like a fish, cheated in college, womanized, drugged, took his nephew to a party and stood by while said nephew was accused and tried for rape. The man got old and happily settled down and finally, did his job. Right before he died, he was trying to pass a bogus law to get someone to fill his seat who would vote like he did. He did not care about the little man. He cared about Votes and that is why Democraps give money away to people, instead of educating them and getting them jobs.
And none of the men you have mentioned are in the same class as Kennedy, as far as drinking, cheating in college, cheating on his wife, etc etc etc. You are blind as a bat, aren't you.

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5:28 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Samwise24601

Ted Kennedy was driving drunk, ran off a bridge and a young woman died. He got out and hours later it was revealed what he had done. And all he was charged with was leaving the scene of an accident! If it had been a poorer, lesser known person, such as you or I, we would still be in prison for causing the death of that young woman. Those are the facts.

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5:34 pm, Aug 26, 2009
ccook1

althea, Funny how you did'nt mention Clinton and Edwards in your roster of Sinners!!

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5:47 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Kyanite7

How many of the sinners left a woman to die?

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6:50 pm, Aug 26, 2009
SherylPaylor

You have a problem

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4:12 pm, Aug 26, 2009
paulineprojectlove

I don't know, I have it on good authority Laura was stinking drunk and the cops let her go 'cause she was well connected. Texans have very loose lips, and the inconvenient truth gets out. Just like the inconvenient truth that you, dalelama, need to cool your hate for a day to allow America to grieve the passing of a great man, who was not infallible like your Laura and friends, but was human and made mistakes like many men in the news today (Sanford?).And where do you get off using the name of a holy person who works to put peace in the world? Shame on you.

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6:28 pm, Aug 26, 2009
olddog65

Robert Kennedy Jr. The only choice, and the one Kennedy that is ready to pick up the mantle of his fallen father and uncles. What other choice would there be?

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9:17 am, Aug 26, 2009
Scrapette

Noooo, RFK Jr should not speak publicly any more - that throat/vocal chord condition of his makes him into a Katherine Hepburn impersonator, okay?

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2:47 pm, Aug 26, 2009
bygeorge

No, no, no. Think just a little bit more outside the box.

Cousin Arnold.

What could be more American?

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9:54 am, Aug 26, 2009
baubles04

jackee, give it a rest. You've been adding MaryJo comments for months. The Senator made an enormous, acknowledged mistake, but has spent his life doing good for the most down-trodden. Without Teddy and his staff, many immigrants would not have safe haven in the States, they saved the fishing industry in Massachusetts, started Head Start and spearheaded Title 9 - programs many children have benefitted from. Ted got 18 year olds the right to vote. And if not for his enormous influence, we would not be on the verge of getting healthcare for those in needs (the crazies on the far right notwithstanding). That, jackee, is just the tip of the Teddy iceberg, which includes over 15,000 Senate votes. He has never taken a salary on top of all this. You can make snide remarks about his wealth. of course, but he wasn't getting richer on my tax dollars. You add this in to the fact that he served as surrogate father to so many children who lost their fathers to tragedy (despite how you may feel about his family). You are throwing tiny pebbles of snark at this giant, a man whose generosity and dedication to making life better for the less fortunate probably did more for the country before breakfast every morning than people like you will do in a lifetime.

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10:46 am, Aug 26, 2009
tehixe

To summarize: the mental midgets resent Ted Kennedy's grand stature, and they think they can aggrandize themselves by cutting him down to size. But their grubby little nails don't even make a dent. In death, his life has more value than theirs ever will, because they are just dwarfs, both mentally and in terms of their historical significance.

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1:32 pm, Aug 26, 2009
SherylPaylor

amen, tehixe

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4:29 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Kyanite7

Maybe Ted should of ate less, Think so?

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6:53 pm, Aug 26, 2009
swkidder

Thank you .. I was going to figure out what to say, but I couldn't have said it better than you just did. They say we have two lives, the one with which we learn and then the one that comes next. Ted Kennedy made a glorious thing out of the one that came next.

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12:18 pm, Aug 26, 2009
tehixe

@dalelama: I guess it hurts to be so small of mind, doesn't it? Especially when you measure yourself against a man who actually mattered. You spread hatred and fear, and he protected the weak. I can see why you're so afraid of his legacy.

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2:00 pm, Aug 26, 2009
al-nafs

Recognizing the efforts of a person's lifetime is far from 'worship'. Don't be so quick to jump to an unreasonable and untrue extreme.

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5:11 pm, Aug 26, 2009
tehixe

Al-nafs, dalelama is an extremist. Telling him not to jump to an extreme is like telling a fish not to swim; a waste of time. All we can do with people like that is point out their obvious problems accepting reality or following a clear line of logical thought, so that others do not take him at face value.

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5:21 pm, Aug 26, 2009
aadeniser

Amen, Dalelama... none so blind as those who will not see...

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9:15 pm, Aug 26, 2009
RVGrandpa

Very well said, Baubles 04. The Kennedys were our version of royalty. Jack had greater potential than any president in my lifetime. Bobby was very loving and compassionate; his potential as president unknown; now Teddy, already referred to as the greatest senator in recent history. All made terrible mistakes (usually sexual) with Teddy's being the worst which involved Miss Kopeckne. Drunken parties frequently result in tragedy. Sad, no less.

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12:08 pm, Aug 26, 2009
hgfdsa8

the u.s.a. is safer tonight more scum is off the earth kennedys are killers, sex offenders killers of woman and all of your rights

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5:22 pm, Aug 26, 2009
mema142

He is one of the reasons we have so many immigrants in America now. As for the perfect family GIVE ME A BREAK. So many marriages and so many marriages fallen apart, but this is ok the CHURCH said so. Again give me a braeak.

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3:53 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Redhead5050

Unless you are 100% Native American you and your family are immigrants too.

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12:57 pm, Aug 27, 2009
AMEN77

thank you thank you thank you - some people just don't get it - sad. Who ever that person is that is making negative comments and dredging up something from 40 yrs ago has a very, very sad life. But there are alot of people who are miserable and spew hate everywhere they go. I personally try to stay away from them.

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6:28 pm, Aug 26, 2009
BRGMETZGER

AMEN I AGREE, THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO HATEFUL NEED TO CLEAN THEIR OWN CLOSETS FIRST PROBABLY REAL DIRTY IN THERE TOO BEFORE THEY POINT THEIR FINGERS AT SOMEONE ELSE....."REMEMBER WHEN YOU POINT A FINGER 4 ARE POINTING RIGHT BACK AT YOU"

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7:26 pm, Aug 26, 2009
oliverckerr

This post is about Edward m. Kennedy

The Book ov Lev It A Kiss was inspired in 1969, when the author was on a ship, 40 days and 40 nights. It was not the author's idea that he would be given "words for all man kind," a Television Scripture to recite - use as a base - to create a twelve "our" video 'trans crypt,' in a live performance from dusk until dawn, on whirled wide television, with every line a delicate sensible rhyme, for all the world's peoples to participate in all at once.

That was and is the michael stephen levinson plan. Here is a column from The Book ov Lev. It begins with reference to "Sirhan Bishra Sirhan / The ass ass in be gan / As a gjenteel man" (but those three lines are at the bottom of the column leading into what I have copied here.)

In this lan duv
Male or dur guns
Wor ship no idols
They shall be smote down.
Frum a soft asst sel
The smirk in for in er
Smirks at us all
Liv in bed er then moes
He God a cough e pot
Ina pre vert id guard
Call it a filmd e vent
Dis poze uv him ina
Pair a shoot on the Nile.
Ov the girl Kopechne
Who died at Mar thuz
Vin yurd
Let the ded lie buried
Lie down on er grave
Those who wud or
Dur her grave dug
Wud dig ov thoze
Who ar God's own
Her soul is in ter red
Adman will clean air
In free her she was good
Ov the rest uv the Ken
E de die nasty
Joe syph the hate er
Made a rose draw blood
The luv er uv Hit ler
Died ina bed spoon fed
Lee Oswald was
A co in se dense
Wut a man dont no
Duz in hurt im


"Adman will clean air in free her she was good." What happened in the car when Kennedy lost control on the bridge and the car went over the side into the water? Do you want to know?

She put her hand on his pants, and it got crowded inside. He said, "Take it out." She unzipped his trousers. She was a good Catholic girl. She worshipped the Kennedys! She took one look and went down on him.

Had Teddy not been drinking maybe none of this would have happened. He was an Irish guy with a couple three drinks under his belt who immediately popped his nuts and lost control of the car. A hand job and he would have made it over the bridge.

That is what happened. The Kennedy family fought exhuming her grave to conduct an autopsy because they would have found (Ted's) seminal salt in her throat. That is what the Lev (michael stephen levinson) was going to recite - tell the world -

Adman will clean air
In free her she was good

- during his world wide broadcast, which Lev expected to accomplish in 1971-72, at 2:00 a.m. in the morning, after retelling the story of Adman and Even in the Gar Den ov Edum, the Creation being how G-d created Adman in His image, and tracing all the generations of men, settling up with the Russians to bring an end to the Cold War, and so much more, Lev was goping to tell what happened to Kennedy that night in the car.

(Levinson also talked about this to grad stew dense (dent is the singular) he trusted and amongst those students were f be eye people who passed this information on to j. edgarina, the cross dressing fascist pervert of dirt, who was outraged. Hoover made Michael Stephen Levinson a person of 'Special' interest and to this day f b i interferes with his life.

One likes to imagine the world would be interested in a creative man who created a work of art expressly for all man kind, a work of art that could initiate World Peace beginning with a peaceful night.

The Lev Television Scripture (one column quoted above) is a prophetic work. As world events unfold it turns out many were carefully described in advance: Nixon is described leaving the White House in disgrace, Agnew is a tragic hero over money, wallace gets a shot in the back, the earth heats up and the arctic ice caps melt, the Persian Gulf War, when it would take place, why, who would do the fighting and how it would turn out, and more.

Kennedy grew to become a great man. He will get to Heaven before his detractors.

To see the poet prophet youtube.com/poetprophet
To find out more www.michaelslevinson.com
To see software to teach the alphabet and numbers which cannot be marketed to schools in USA (because of your f be i) www.alphabet-learning.com
To see Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis stark nekked same place

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10:59 am, Aug 26, 2009
robin9770

what the hell? Wow. How long did that take to write? If you have that kind of time on your hands, try working. Add to the number of people paying taxes. Oh thats right, only us rich Republicans pay taxes...

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6:34 pm, Aug 26, 2009
tomhues

Mr. Clarke's analysis and sense of history are as solid in this short piece as they are in his exemplary longer works. Caroline Kennedy is the first and finext choice.

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11:00 am, Aug 26, 2009
gak001

To a great statesman, and a man who saw wrong in the world and tried to make it right.

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1:33 pm, Aug 26, 2009
tehixe

The sick thing about you Wrong wingers is that if you agreed with his politics, you'd never remember an accidental death that he caused. If Rush ran someone over, it wouldn't be his fault, and if anyone brought it up, you'd preach forgiveness and say that we needed to move on. But because you don't like Ted Kennedy, he could save the whole world and you'd still call him a killer.

Just one more piece of evidence that the Wrong Wing cares nothing about deeds, and everything about identity. That's why Sarah Palin is so beloved, because she's One of Us. That's why Mitt Romney could never win a GOP nomination, not because you don't like his politics, but because you can never quite be sure that he's One of Us. And that is the single, solitary thing that matters to the Wrong Wing.

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2:05 pm, Aug 26, 2009
sharon42

You description of yourself--little person surely fits you--if you had a brain it would match that too.......your comments about Mr. Kennedy are disgusting---your mouth surely isn't small....if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all...God will judge Mr. Kennedy and he will forgive--not so sure when you get there if you do that you will be.

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3:00 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Ammons

You shouls be ashamed, you are a sad lady.

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6:49 pm, Aug 26, 2009
shebij60

you need to sign off & get a life!!! one without hatered. God does not aprrove of your judgment!!!

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7:11 pm, Aug 26, 2009
heathercps

So you admit now that even if you disagree with his motive, that he did do good deeds?

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7:47 pm, Aug 26, 2009
gak001

Jackee... I defer to my previous statement regarding your comments:

"Have some class, you soulless shrew."

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12:19 pm, Aug 27, 2009
tina78

Bloggers remember you can be revealed! Goggle was sued and a blogger's identity was revealed to the person she wrote about..........Hmm wonder if you cowards would be writing such nasty scathing remarks if we all knew who you were............

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1:34 pm, Aug 26, 2009
AMEN77

hope so

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6:32 pm, Aug 26, 2009
tehixe

It's legal education time. The First Amendment protects speech, but not defamatory speech. Defamatory speech is that which makes false statements about someone and injures their reputation. I'm not sure whether a dead person's estate could sue for defamation, it may depend on the state.

Now, public figures cannot sue for defamation unless the comment was made with "actual malice." Actual malice means either a) you knew you were lying or b) you were extremely reckless as to the truth. This is an incredibly hard thing to prove, so public figures rarely sue for defamation. And it would be moronic for TK's estate to start suing random TBD posters anyway. Nobody really listens to them, and a great many of them probably don't have enough money to satisfy a judgment. The fact is, TK's legacy is too strong to be destroyed by a small handful of rude people on one internet site, so there really is no reason for his family to care.

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3:10 pm, Aug 26, 2009
tehixe

Classy. To quote myself, "I'm not sure whether a dead person's estate could sue for defamation." You'll have to forgive me for graduating from a tier 1 law school as #5 in my class but forgetting one thing (I'm sure if you'd done the same you would have a 100% recall).

But wait, you won't forgive me for honestly admitting what I don't know and don't care to look up. To you, if a liberal makes one mistake, it's because he's retarded. If a conservative makes dozens, you love them just the same because they're One of Us. The more you talk, the more you prove your hypocrisy, so by all means keep flapping that mouth.

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5:26 pm, Aug 26, 2009
laf21953

AMEN!

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6:11 pm, Aug 26, 2009
amanda07070

You are SO right tina78. The only thing I would mind is if right wing nuts like jackee and dalelama found out where any of us live, they would not be able to stop themselves from causing us physical harm. Their hatred is palpable.

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3:28 pm, Aug 26, 2009
laf21953

No-- none of these people who write outrageous horrible comments would ever do it in person unless they were with an evil friend. jackee has spent much of the day spewing hatred. Most not have a life or friends to hang out with. Gee, I can't imagine why. Me, I've got things to do, so I don't have anymore time for jackee.

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6:10 pm, Aug 26, 2009
AMEN77

doubt it - that's why they write such mean and negative things - they are cowards hiding behind a falso name

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6:31 pm, Aug 26, 2009
robin9770

Tina, why should we care if you have our name? Jackee has not written anything nasty. You libs think all comments are nasty unless they praise these losers who are destroying our country.
Guess what baby, obama and kennedy and all your heroes are using you to try to scare us into silence. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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6:36 pm, Aug 26, 2009
aadeniser

As of today, we still have freedom of speech. If Mark LLoyd gets his way that may change soon, but as of today, we still have the first amendment.
So what?? It's perfectly fine to state one's opinion.

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9:21 pm, Aug 26, 2009
nunsuch

What about Maria Shriver? Not only is she incredibly bright and articulate, but her marriage to a Republican would also commemorate Ted's ability to reach across the isle (something sorely needed today)....

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12:52 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Frankel1205

Heaven is rejoicing today as Teddy enters its gates. Rest in Peace, Senator. Like another posting here, I grew up in TN and was a eleven when JFK was assasinated. My grandparents whooped and cheered and many of the fellow congregrants at their Baptist church met that night and "celebrated" his death. My grandfather said he hoped MLK was next. After witnessing this, I made a silent vow that I would never, ever, vote for anyone my family supported. After having been Dixiecrats, my grandparents became staunch Republicans when Nixon ran. My parents, who are still alive, proudly voted for Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Bush and McCain. They think Sarah Palin is the best thing since sliced bread and today, my mother is giddy because the last Kennedy brother died. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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1:42 pm, Aug 26, 2009
furysmom

My folks moved to Florida (Daytona) when I was 11 in the late 70's. I was so blown away by the level of hatred whites had for blacks down there. At 15 a male friend was showing off his Klan card his dad made sure he got (this was a wealthy family, too). Those experiences (along with many more) helped turn me into the proud liberal I am today. Today I was explaining to my older son (who is reading a book about a black southern family from the 30's) that racism is alive and well and that it is connected to the teabaggers/birthers (who are mostly in the south) who just can't stand the fact that a black man is president.

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2:42 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Ammons

Ammons

Its funny, because God and Jesus don't see color, racism, I am so glad that
he is GOD/JESUS all by himself. Obama won because GOD has a time and
place for everyone and everything.

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6:55 pm, Aug 26, 2009
outthere

half black....

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7:34 pm, Aug 26, 2009
peachy

It is amazing how much people either don't know or just forget. It was the democrats who blocked the segregation of schools, who promoted slavery (Lincoln was a republican as was Martin Luther King, Jr.) and Senator Byrd (one of the the only senators with more time than Kennedy) was a member of the KKK. I really do not understand why people (black, white, hispanic, or otherwise) believe the liberals have their best interest at heart. To them, you can't make it on your own, you can only make it with their help - racism has nothing to do with the Tea Parties (a non-partisan group that wants responsible, limited government and lower taxes) or the birthers (who only want to SEE a birth certificate - not the certificate live birth, which is all that has been presented) - but it does have plenty to do with people wo use racism as their excuse for everything. I live in the south and I see racism from ALL sides and it disgusts me, but what bothers me the most is when it is used as an excuse for not being responsible for your own life and actions.

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7:35 pm, Aug 26, 2009
JJCraig

OOOOOOOOOOOO another paid poster, you can always tell by the talking points. furysmom, our congress has spent us into a debt we can never repay. Never. That is entirely what the tea parties were about. Nobody gives a rat's patootie what color the president is, he is from Hawaii and has never in his life had any experience of being black, in Hawaii we don't look at race, it is considered bad manners, we live together in perfect harmony and it is in this way that Barry was raised. Now, the constitution demands that the president be natural born IN AMERICA. He claimed to be born at Queen's hospital, but they have no record of his being born there; then he said Kapiolani hospital but THEY have no record of his being born there. All he has to do is get a copy of his birth certificate for $20.00 and all of this will go away. How that has anything to do with race is beyond me.

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7:39 pm, Aug 26, 2009
aadeniser

I find that really offensive Furysmom.The south did have extreme racism back in the 50s 60s and 70s. It is not that way now. I've seen more examples if racism in the north than in the south. You need to refresh your perspective. Atlanta is a melting pot, every race, religion and creed. Many other cities in the south are the same way.
And besides that Barack Obama is as white as he is black, remember? So, is it possible that teabaggers, of which I am proudly one, must be pissed off about something else? Your generalization of the south was unfair and exactly what the liberals are so quick to accuse the conservatives of. Pot meet kettle....

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9:43 pm, Aug 26, 2009
aadeniser

Peachy...Thank you Thank you Thank you.. so well said!!!

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9:45 pm, Aug 26, 2009
SherylPaylor

That is one of the sadess things I have ever heard.

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4:43 pm, Aug 26, 2009
ptDarkstar

My family moved to Florida (Pompano Beach) a month before my 10th birthday, which translates into we moved there in November of 1967. At that time, schools were still segregated and I was laughed at for thinking that there was something wrong with the idea of not having black kids in the same schools. I never ran into any people who I knew of as openly belonging to the Klan, but there were some that I wouldn't have been surprised about.

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9:48 pm, Aug 26, 2009
JJCraig

Obviously a paid poster, the talkingpoints gave you away. I was alive when JFK died and the entire country mourned him and still does. Do they pay you by the word?

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7:31 pm, Aug 26, 2009
BRGMETZGER

OH I AM SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR FAMILY

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7:32 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Tintin

I agree with the author's sentiment, but the "beloved Carolyn" that the Senator referred to in his eulogy of JFKJr was not Caroline Kennedy, but Carolyn Bessette Kennedy.

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1:51 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Hippievet

Anonymous people, sitting before a keyboard and a monitor, expressing their hate toward a United States Senator; who just died. I would hope that the progressives on TDB would refrain from taking the bait of these "people" and, instead, pray that they are all atheists. For if there is a God... there is also a massive climate change in their future.

Karma's a mofo.

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2:22 pm, Aug 26, 2009
spotted

Agreed as to karma.

The mistakes that's been made in the past ("Swiftboat" for one) has been to "turn the other cheek" and ignore these remarks. One cannot let these "people" make remarks that go unrefuted. They will take the silence of disgust and turn it into assent: "No one objected to . . ."

Even if it were the guilt over the death of Mary Jo that turned Ted Kennedy into the statesman he was, then she can take credit for making millions of lives better.

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3:18 pm, Aug 26, 2009
spotted

@jackee

You are one of those "people". Give it a rest!

It didn't stop Laura Bush from getting into the White House.

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3:37 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Redhead5050

Jackee, If all that is so...why did this adult woman get into the car in the first place? Did it not matter to her that he was driving drunk? Does she have no responsibility for her own actions? I was not there that night and therefore must refrain from making judgements.

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3:34 pm, Aug 26, 2009
ThinkAgain

lol Karma? This is your karma for being even nastier when Reagan passed!

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4:27 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Redhead5050

Reagan was a "drugstore, truck drivin man, head of the Klu Klux Klan...."

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1:08 pm, Aug 27, 2009
Joyous

Karma's a mofo.Oh, yeah. And it can be a major cause of back-pedaling from foot-in-mouth disease. I had a know-it-all uncle who snottily said after his sister's 2nd divorce, that anyone who got divorced ought to be shot. Within the next calendar year, 3 of his 4 children got divorced. Now, years later, all four children are still bullet-hole free. He's dead, tho.

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6:33 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Ammons

You are so right, and I feel so very sorry for these people who do not believe in GOD.

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6:57 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Scrapette

Caroline Kennedy can indeed WRITE a great speech (or have it written for her), but she does not deliver one that well. Her cousin Maria delivers one better, but both of them read far too much and are both in the end boring to listen to.

The OBVIOUS and FITTING choice to deliver this eulogy is Ted Kennedy's son Patrick.

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3:00 pm, Aug 26, 2009
steffoy

he has children of his own, why should another do his eulogy? publicity? rediculous!

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4:01 pm, Aug 26, 2009
psrobinson

hey scrapette, it's a eulogy not a speech

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7:04 pm, Aug 26, 2009
exploora

Well if you look at the photo essay, you will find that some things about Ted's pass were not great, such being found guilty of leaving an accident yes he did leave the accident.

Now I remember that on the radio, though I was really young. It was was of the first things I remember about American politics, besides his brothers being killed. He had huge shoes to fill, and at first he disappointed many, but as he matured, I think he did improve a lot. And at the end he appeared to be a true democrat. Big d and small D.

[Wikipedia: Ted Kennedy

Offers biographical, career, education, and other information about Ted Kennedy. ... where he was expelled for cheating on an exam but later readmitted, and the ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy - 507k]

[Between the ages of eight and sixteen he suffered the trauma of his sister Rosemary Kennedy's failed lobotomy and the deaths of his brother Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. in World War II and sister Kathleen Agnes Kennedy in an airplane crash.] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy.

[In 1973, Kennedy's son Edward Kennedy, Jr. was discovered to have chondrosarcoma; his leg was amputated and he underwent a long, difficult, experimental two-year drug treatment.[45][57] The case brought international attention both among doctors and in the general media,[57] as did the young Kennedy's return to the ski slopes on an artificial leg half a year later.[58] His other son, Patrick J. Kennedy, was suffering from severe asthma attacks.[45] The pressure of the situation mounted on Joan Kennedy, who was several times checked into facilities for alcoholism and emotional strain and was arrested for drunk driving after a traffic accident.[45][59]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy.

No one should be expected to be perfect, when facing such an imperfect world.

So will Arnold will be the next great Kennedy?

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3:02 pm, Aug 26, 2009
Ammons

You are sick.

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6:59 pm, Aug 26, 2009
MsMHS57

I don't hate Ted Kennedy; I had no respect for him in life since the day he killed a young woman while married to another. I didn't respect the way he obtained his first senate seat; I didn't respect the way he and his family treated Sammy Davis Jr. at JFK's inauguration time and I certainly have no use for the way the Kennedys treated and used Frank Sinatra. I also do not respect the way the Kennedys earned their billions -- through corruption in politics and bootlegging. I also did not respect his dad for his leanings toward Hitler and the fact that FDR had to return him from England.
No hate, just no respect. The man was a hack and a poor Catholic advocating divorce, adultery and abortion.

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3:10 pm, Aug 26, 2009
countrybumpkin

All I can say, it was not soon enough. This is another example of bleeding heart americans. The people of Mass were fools for reelecting him as many times as they did. Everyone looking for something free. Will the law be changed so they can fill his seat to push health care thru.

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3:12 pm, Aug 26, 2009
riktinory

NEWS RELEASE
TED KENNEDY SENDS LAST LETTER OF THANKS FOR FOND MUSICAL MEMORIES

Courtesy of the Rik Tinory Photo collection c Copyrighted
Ted Kennedy shown being presented the Album of Pope John Paul II, recorded live on Boston Common on October 1,1979 by Producer Rik Tinory. The historic recording session was the world's largest with over 1.2 million in attendance and loved by Senator Ted Kennedy.
Tinory travelled with the Senator recording campaign messages and interviews for radio and T.V. during his re-election tour .
The ailing senator recently wrote to Rik, thanking him for his wonderful music and how it brought back so many fond memories, he also expressed interest in coming to the recording studio to record a favorite song of his mother's entitled , "How Are things in Glocca Mora". The last time the two spoke Tinory told Ted " the Steinway piano is tuned and ready".
A few of the songs' composed by Tinory that Ted loved the most are , "Mother Of Ireland" ,about the ship wreck tragedy of the Brig St John which crashed off Cohasset's ledges, his classic "Christmas Angels", Boston's, official theme song, "Boston The Only Place For Me" ,"Pope John Paul II live on Boston Common" and the legendary, "Remember Ol' Scollay Square", which is now housed in the Smithsonian Museum in Washington, D.C.
Contact 781-383-9494 E mail: riktinory@aol.com

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