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Scarborough for President
Fall brings some dark horses into Mark McKinnon’s 2012 GOP contender rankings, including a general (Petraeus), a whack job (Bachmann) and a congressman-turned-TV host: Joe Scarborough.
The lower President Barack Obama’s approval ratings drop, the more names we will see surface as possible contenders for the GOP 2012 nomination. The latest crop includes the unlikely, the improbable, the impossible, and the plausible.
The Unlikely: David Petraeus. Nothing gets the Republican juices flowing like the thought of a military man running for the GOP nomination. And had Colin Powell run for the nomination in 1996, he would have likely won the nomination and possibly won the general election. In a hypothetical matchup in exit-polling Election Day, Powell defeated Clinton 50 percent-38 percent. The problem for Powell is that while he was a great general and diplomat, he never had much of a stomach for the messy art of politics. And while Petraeus looks great on paper and in theory, no one knows his politics, he’s never shown any ankle of interest, and as pointed out by Dan Senor of the Council on Foreign Relations on Politico, it would be a hell of a tricky move to be advising the current commander in chief on Afghanistan and Iraq and then turn around in a couple of years and run against your boss.
Petraeus fulfills the Republicans' perpetual desire for an authoritative father figure, but that's a psychological issue among Republicans, not an actual job qualification. It's hard to see what else recommends him for the job. Beyond that, it's hard to see how he "did a great job in Iraq" really creates a public demand for a President Petraeus. If he's won the fight for Iraq, then he's rendered his major skill set (counterinsurgency warfare) obsolete.
The Improbable: Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann. I’ll just quote Daily Beast columnist Michelle Goldberg: “Michele Bachmann has always been on the far right of her right-wing party, but for the past year, her lunacy has been particularly vigorous. First was the McCarthyite demand for an investigation of ‘anti-American’ members of Congress. Then came her fear that Obama was creating ‘re-education camps’ via the AmeriCorps program (a program her son has since joined). There was her call for Minnesotans to be ‘armed and dangerous’ revolutionaries” against cap-and-trade legislation and her paranoid opposition to the Census. And on Monday, railing against health-care reform in Colorado, she implored a crowd ‘to make a covenant, to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing.’ This will not pass.
“In August, she told World Net Daily that should God call her to run for president, she would oblige. ‘If I felt that’s what the Lord was calling me to do, I would do it,’ she said. Given God’s previous encouragement for her political career—she ran in 2006, she said, because He called on her to do so—such an outcome is not altogether unlikely.”
Sarah Palin similarly said God has guided her political choices. God is certainly keeping us entertained. Bachmann could make Palin look like black-and-white TV.
The Impossible: Dick Cheney. Well, you have to give The Wall Street Journal credit for floating a good laugh. Just the thought of the absolute apoplexy a Cheney candidacy would create with Democrats and the media make this notion worthy of throwing out there. God knows he would galvanize the base. But 35 percent does not a majority make. And a truly bad ticker does not comport well with the stress of a presidential campaign. But I’d buy pay-per-view to watch a debate between Cheney and Obama.
So much for the good, the bad, and the ugly.
How Rich People Smoke Pot
Paul Schrodt is a writer living in New York City. He has contributed to New York magazine, Radar, and Esquire.com.
Justice Clinton?
As vice chairman of Public Strategies and president of Maverick Media, Mark McKinnon has helped meet strategic challenges for candidates, corporations and causes, including George W. Bush, John McCain, Governor Ann Richards, Charlie Wilson, Lance Armstrong, and Bono. McKinnon is co-chair of Arts & Labs, a collaboration between technology and creative communities that have embraced today's rich Internet environment to deliver innovative and creative digital products to consumers.
Justice Clinton?
As vice chairman of Public Strategies and president of Maverick Media, Mark McKinnon has helped meet strategic challenges for candidates, corporations and causes, including George W. Bush, John McCain, Governor Ann Richards, Charlie Wilson, Lance Armstrong, and Bono. McKinnon is co-chair of Arts & Labs, a collaboration between technology and creative communities that have embraced today's rich Internet environment to deliver innovative and creative digital products to consumers.
Myra Adams is a media producer, writer and political observer. Her media clients have included national associations, political interest groups and corporations. She was on the creative team with Mark McKinnon that created the now infamous John Kerry "Windsurfing" ad for the Bush 2004 presidential campaign and served on the McCain Ad Council during the 2008 McCain campaign. Myra's web site www.TheJesusStore.com contributes all profits to Christian charity.
Grill Him Again!
As vice chairman of Public Strategies and president of Maverick Media, Mark McKinnon has helped meet strategic challenges for candidates, corporations and causes, including George W. Bush, John McCain, Governor Ann Richards, Charlie Wilson, Lance Armstrong, and Bono. McKinnon is co-chair of Arts & Labs, a collaboration between technology and creative communities that have embraced today's rich Internet environment to deliver innovative and creative digital products to consumers.
Not a Game-Changer
As vice chairman of Public Strategies and president of Maverick Media, Mark McKinnon has helped meet strategic challenges for candidates, corporations and causes, including George W. Bush, John McCain, Governor Ann Richards, Charlie Wilson, Lance Armstrong, and Bono. McKinnon is co-chair of Arts & Labs, a collaboration between technology and creative communities that have embraced today's rich Internet environment to deliver innovative and creative digital products to consumers.
JDK-JDK
I like Joe Scarborough. Seems to me to be like an 'old-tyme' politician... the kind that debates with a guy during the day and has a steak with them at night, and keeps work and personal business seperate.
I could be wrong, though.
gak001
I think we could use a little bit of the 'old-tyme' politics in Washington. They should encourage the freshmen class to set up dinner nights again. There may be too many ideologues for that these days, though.
ElLamer
I think we should have a lot more fact based political discussions. That is a definite plus for Scarborough.
"...plays guitar, and dropped the F-bomb on TV, so he can attract younger voters."
I may not be representative of my generation, but if thats what you need to attract young voters then I'm ashamed of my peers.
How about: I can't prove he's spewing lies after 5 minutes on the google machine. Thats a good plus for my google-savy generation.
gak001
As a member of said generation, I agree completely.
nickatdabeach
Talk of anything about Scarborough besides his role as talk show host is bizarre, and I like Scarborough in general. I wonder if he plans to being sidekick resident retard Willard Giste along for the ride? Wow, news hounds desperate to float this trial balloon and if GOP gives any consideration to Joe Scarborough for any national office tells me they are more desperate than I realize.
MatKen
Ahh yes, the good old days of yore that never existed.
wingsabre
What has ruined old time politics is cash and technology. The need to win the next election and raise enough cash for it has created a perpetual political campaign. Technology only gives greater weight to the extremes. There was a time where one can disagree, and not be disagreeable, but now they have to or they'll be attacked by their base. The reduced cost of travel has also made things worst. Politicians used to spend all of the legislative session in DC, and then go back home for the recess. Now they can fly back and forth during weekends and even in the middle of the week. Plus a week is not even a week in DC, with Fridays essentially off due to all those cocktail parties being held on Fridays.
If we want old-tyme politicians back, the most direct solution is to take away the money. Set an established amount of hours on televisions available for political advertisement, and same goes for radio. Have incumbents and their opponent have equal time, so there won't be a bunch of seat warmers. Also, limit political donations to $1000 a person, and apply that limit to politicians and PAC.
anghiari
wingsabre...what ruined old time politics is an undereducated electorate, who gave their brains over to their political parties and the spin doctors of those various parties. Americans now genuflect based on their political party....period.
ThinkAgain
The undereducated?! The smarty pants in the best think tanks and colleges in this country have given over their brains to their party. It's incestuous. They think whatever the whoever is cool today in their little insular world of "the only important people" are thinking.
anghiari
Thinkagain...The Rethuglicans have been exemplary in getting their base to vote against their own self-interest time and time again. Then they toss up SarahBarbie Palin as a viable candidate for Vice President? Please...get your head out of the culture wars spin...We have bitched and moan for years about this country's poor educational system...we see the fruition of those who passed through that system...SarahBarbie is their gal and Joe is their man...ugh!
allonfla
Yes, that's exactly what we need. Old time politics that included back room deals and total ignorance about the true character of your elected official.
newswoman
Typical republican paranoia, allonfla. One Never knows about the true character of our politicians. Have you forgotten "Wide Stance" Craig, Gov. Sanford and others too numerous to mention. (Dems, too). Politics is the art of compromise and many compromises were done in the back rooms, some good and some bad, but they COMPROMISED.
sophia5
They all "compromise" otherwise known as sell-out (Repubs and Dems) based on the highest bidders. Just follow the money.
allonfla
wait, did you just call me a republican? - Don't you ever.........ever............in your life......... And I ain't talkin' about compromise. I'm talking straight up corruption that would without a doubt send them to prison - not just get them to resign.
diamonded
I doubt Scarebourough could hold up to a "Chappaquiddick" style investigation into the mysterious death of one of his intern's in his office around the time he resigned and dropped out of public view. He has a short temper and their are questions as to why he told the press that the woman had medical problems, as did his advisor. The lady's parents said she had no physical impairments and Scarebourough never took any questions on the matter. In these right-wing induced "swift-boat" style times I doubt with his temper that he would be able to hold his mud. If you ever watch his show, you'll notice his hair catches on fire anytime anyone disagrees with him.
Who was Lori Klausutis, and how did this staffer to then-Congressman Joe Scarborough come to DIE in his Florida OFFICE in July, 2001? And that's not even the weird part.
(JS announced his early retirement from Congress in May 2001, effective September 2001, the announcement coming six months after being re-elected to a fourth term.
The Medical Examiner had already been run out of two states for incompetence, and was later run out of this job too, but not before ruling the death -- involving a hairline skull fracture --resulted from an "accidental" fall as a result of a "heart condition" that didn't exist.
Only One Newspaper In The Entire United States Covered This Drama
http://www.allhatnocattle.net/congressman_joe_scarborough.htm
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html
http://www.whoseflorida.com/lori_klausutis.htm
anghiari
JDK-JDK...have seen three interviews and Joe has calmed down and is selling himself hard...as presidential timber...he is being the genial, charming, smart Republican, whil eschewing partisanship, and craziness. He is positioning himself as the alternative to Palin, Bachman and all the other Repug crazies. The guy even moved to the upper west side of NYC...he is in the hunt...if we can leave him alone in NYC for two more years, we may have a sane Republican.
mclaubr1
Are you kidding? Joe is just another foaming-at-the-mouth southern conserv in sheep's clothing. Until the first rumor of him as a potential gubernatorial candidate in FLA, he was screaming into the tv camera and railing against the President. Yes, he has "calmed down" but just for convenience. Remember, be careful to pick up the snake, it will bite you anyway.
shewolf884
I don't think Joe is actually what he is selling on TV. Like the slick salesman he appears to be shining up the package for a run. But check on his background, something is not exactly right about him. Now I have to say that I am a Liberal and Pro-Choice, so he is not my choice, but be careful, Joe is from the Florida Panhandle and Florida is amazingly racist as is he. I know, I have lived here all my life. Most of Florida has only recently put their "hoods" in the closet. Now I did not say, walked away from them.
Most of the time Joe is kissing up to Pat Buchanon, who we all know is a screeching, mouth-foaming racist or putting down most of the females that come on his program, especially the puppet, Mika.
I just noticed what mclaubr1 said below. "Remember, be careful to pick up the snake, it will bit you anyway". Perfect description of Joe the Snake.
JDK-JDK
I do not agree with you. As about a 'middle of the road' guy as you can get, politically, I see him as very refreshing compared to the rest of the GOP of today.
I watch his show about 2 or 3 mornings every week. While he does go against Obama at times, other times he goes against the GOP for their stupidity, which MOST GOP'ers would NEVER do.
He is a voice of sanity in a growingly insane political party.
anghiari
JDK...sorry did I sound like I was agreeing you ....oops didn't mean too. I think The SCAR is very dangerous...however didn't know his closet was so full of skeletons...but you know egos get huge...he may think he can jump the shark of his past....given the other Rethuglicans out there...
jimsrule
What planet are you watching from. The sad part is he probably is the best shot the Republicans have which is not to say he is a great candidate but that the Republican, aka right wing nut job party, is that pathetic. Wow, how utterly depressing it must be to be a member of the GOP.
carouzer
Puleeeeeease! Old Joe's recent, relentless "book tour" was clearly an strategy to position Mr. Recently Rational Republican for some office or other. Did your fine strategic hand play a role in this plan, Mark?
True, Scarborough's rhetoric has become much more moderate in recent months, while he continues to expound his love for Republican sacred cows like guns, balanced budgets, etc.
What has not moderated is his obvious disrespect for women--particularly his co-host (who, revoltingly plays along)--and his arrogance. And the fact that he never seems to voice an original idea. WHEN YOU GET BEYOND THE BOILER PLATE POLITICAL RHETORIC, THERE IS NO THERE THERE.
Nevertheless, when you look at the probable Republican field for 2012--Palin, Romney, Pawlenty, Jindal, Gingrich, Bachman (God help us all), etc., Scarborough seems like a brilliant potential choice. And that speaks loudly to the paucity of ideas in the Republican party and its unwillingness and disinterest in broadening it base.
easton
On July 20, 2001, Scarborough's constituent services coordinator, Lori Klausutis, age 28, died after hitting her head on a desk when she fainted while alone in Scarborough's Fort Walton Beach, Florida, office.
I seriously doubt he had anything to do with it, but it ruins his chances for the big chair. Would he really want to subject himself over what will be relentless allegations that he murdered her to shut up an affair?
anghiari
Easton, don't be so naive...used to work for a State legislature, the shenanighans by all those idiot state legislators were amazing. What did she look like? These men cannot get over having all these young nubile women working for them. They do not understand look but don't touch. How many opportunities does one get to fall and kill themselves on the carpeted floors of legislative offices? Really diffcult to slip and fall. But unusual circumstances occuring as young women attempt to wrestle out of an unwanted frontal attack by a legislator getting too fresh or feisty is not an unusual scenario.
JCapozz
I will be the right on board with this candidate!!! Finally, a Republican I can support.
retired-army-1SG
I agree. he does seem to be level headed, can string more than two sentences together without ranting. His writings are thoughtful and well researched. Is it possible he is what so many wish we could see? A true moderate conservative who gives a shit? I'll be watching close.
Donatella
Yes, old-tyme Republican indeed!
Joe Scarborough is a shallow loud-mouth know-it-all. If that's the best the Republicans can do then I would welcome his candidacy.
It's an odd coincidence that he was divorced soon after the mysterious death of one of his campaign staff, Lori Klausutis.
Southpaw
I'll add thin-skinned and angry.
getkicksonrte66
you are so wrong
donnybrkgr
I cannot stand Joe Scarborough
Southpaw
Ditto.
ittybittykitty
separate
momofvegasgirls
Um, does anybody think the d.e.a.d chick in his office while he was in the Senate will be trotted out? I'm not so sure his personl life would pass the initial smell test.This is just my personal opinion, not based on anything else. I just have a hunch....
http://open.salon.com/blog/chantal_laurent/2009/09/07/joe_scarboroughs_ dead_political_career_the_scar_wont_heal
glenndale
If these are the list of GOP candidates for 2012, I would be feeling very at ease, if I were Obama.
Lilli917
Especially with Scarborough and Bachmann. Please, GOP, nominate either of these two!
shewolf884
Bachmann (hoping for the female vote) with Scarborough as VP. Wait he would not take that, only the reverse. Oh, please GOP, what a perfect pair. Only ones better would be Cheney with Palin as VP
EdmondDantes
I heard Pee Wee Herman is gunning for a comeback. Is he targeting 2012? No less improbable than Sarah Palin as running mate.
NYUKULELE
I might vote for PeeWee. I certainly won't ever vote for a Democrat again. Scarborough's okay but the Republicans across the board are too loony for me. I'll vote for the Green candidate, or write in Porky Pig.
JDK-JDK
If only the Greens didn't have such fringe beliefs and adherents.
spotted
Porky Pig may have a problem picking up the Jewish and Muslim vote.
Even so, he's less of a fringe candidate than Palin.
politicalpam
There is no opening for a moderate candidate in the GOP. It is controlled by the far right now. Joe Scarborough is not a birther, teabagger, religious fanatic or gun nut. He regularly condemns the antics of the base on his show. I think the most probably scenario for 2012 is that should a moderate somehow win enough votes to get the GOP nomination the base would leave the party and run their own candidate (Sarah Palin).
masher
I see your point. But once we got Obama to the dance he left us at the punch bowl. 2012 is the GOPs to lose.
Scarborough would win. I really don't see any difference between Bush and Obama so Scarborough would just have to prove he is less of a radical corporatist than Bush/Obama to get my vote. Scarborough couldn't be worse than Obama.
Grimmace
And the Democrats are any better? We have a President that was the MOST liberal member of the Senate along with a VP that was the 3rd most liberal. The Republicans, much to my dismay, ran one of their most moderate members of the Senate for the Presidency. Seems to me that it is the Democrats that have no openings for a moderate candidate. And judging by the many lib posters around this site, not too many Democrats seem to have a lot of love for the Blue Dogs and moderates of their party.
newswoman
You Reps still like to lampoon "liberals". We wanted a liberal president, that's why we voted for Obama. If we had wanted a moderate Rep, we would have voted for McCain. Get it in your heads, LIBERAL is a good word as opposed to Conservative, which to us means status quo, fear, dislike of government. Who would want that?
Grimmace
Ahh newswoman, I was replying to the stated idea that there is no opening for a moderate candidate in the GOP. I merely pointed out that in the last election -- held less than a year ago -- we had a candidate from the Democratic party that represented the far left extreme of this party and a Republican candidate that represented the moderate center of this party. This is not based on my opinion, but rather through Senate scoring of their voting records. In this instance I'm not lampooning liberals, just pointing out some facts that counter the idea that there is no room for a moderate candidate in the GOP.
dana64
MODERATION does not mean anything............and besides OBAMA has shown himself to be very conservative and not liberal at all ith his health care plan.
who says he is a liberal ??? Not true.
newswoman
I agree. Joe is the most moderate Rep today and even if I don't agree with him most of the time, I like his way of doing things. That's why Morning Joe is such a good program. They have moderates, conservatives, writers, publishers, journalists and all kinds on the show and they are treated with respect. But the nuts on the right like a Sarah Palin type, a No-Nothing. God help us.
anghiari
newswoman...think back when Joe changed...he is in the hunt for positioning himself as a real Presidential candidate...he thinks he can appeal to moderate repugs and conservative democrats...
jpelhamtn
Sarah Palin is a unique talented and accomplished woman. Can you name a single 'female' on Morning Joe who has done half of what she has in life?
getkicksonrte66
Morning Joe sucks the big one pal ---he's as phoney as a 3 dollar bill.
Southpaw
Morning Joe does have some excellent guests but they have a hard time getting a word in edgewise without yackety-yak Scarborough's interference.
dana64
MODERATION has become meaningless now............what is important is if you have SOLUTIONS for the problems we have.
And he has none because he does not believe in GOV
ByGloPete
Joe is really not recptive to other's ideas. He is truly a "Know It All". I watch the whole show daily but mainly to hear the great array of guests on the program. Even with them, hewill interrupt them with his own ideas in a very loud way. I can imagine what his cabinet meetings would be like!!
scottiex2
Scarborough is a psychopath. His anger and control issues are really frightening. He would not make it through a week of campaigning before
he imploded.
Nuld001
Joe Scarborough makes a lot of sense for the reasons mentioned. Is he interested or not?
Ritarita
He's nursing
A scandal.
jpelhamtn
He's also nursing zero credibility.
pattyann1
"A lot of sense"?? Have you heard his tirade on why torturing is good for America, how the contractors in Kabul were only "boys being boys" and shouldn't be investigate? (Not too moderate to be defending Dick Cheney.) Have you seen the spanking Mika's Dad gave him about his knowledge of Israeli-Palestinian relations and the bombings in Gaza calling him "stunningly superficial" and "embarrassing to watch"?.....OUCH! Those are just a few of what would make great campaign commercials against him!
dana64
a regular joe is not what AMERICA needs..........he is too simplstic and has no ideas whatsoever................and i stopped watching the morning because he jumps like a vulture to prove his point and also interrupts people
anghiari
NuldOO1...you can't be that blind...he's been running since he wrote his latest book...that book was really his declaration that he's running. Obama's win has made that run seem possible for many who would never have considered it.
sarareid
Joe Scarborough is about the only true conservative left, & even I - a Democrat - would be willing to give him a second look in 2018. I think 2012 is a little too soon, & it is going to be so ugly, Scarborough shouldn't waste his time & money. I usually watch his morning show on MSNBC. I think if he sticks with that for another 4 years - being the Republican voice of sanity & reality - continuing to knock down all those bizarre accusations & stunts of the nuts on the right - I think he'd have a good chance.
disque dur externe
MurrayAbraham
Scarborough debunked this himself. He would never make it past the primaries.
Glenda1976
I agree.
BasPos
He knows that he's the GnOP's Teddy. His "de-bunk" would last a NY second.
jpelhamtn
I agree...it's laughable.
wingsabre
Joe could be a good choice. And he just had a kid, so that could be a viable photo-opp moment. He's also watched by liberals, moderates, and conservatives, so he could get some crossovers. Plus he's from Florida, so that can help lock in a few much needed electoral points. He was also one of the lone fiscal conservatives that opposed the different actions of Bush. Being part of MSNBC gave him that ability, when he most likely would have been smothered.
The problem however is in the time since he's left office he's more urban and moderate. that's good for the public, but it's not good for the primaries. That daily dose of Starbucks can come back and bite him. Conservatives may see him as a conservative as much as liberals see Colmes as a liberal. In other words, he may look like a token conservative, even though his bonafidies are quite established. Look at McCain, in 2000, if he were able to win the nomination he would most likely have beaten Gore, but in 2008 he had to back track on a lot of issues in order to win the nomination. Creating a paper tiger is not a good way to start. However, if he does run, he'll probably have to swing hard right and then swing back to the center like most other candidates do. With the state of the GOP right now, he might die from the political whiplash.
Plus he also has some shadows in his closet. He's been divorced, and in politics bad things happen in 3. If Newt runs, and another sex scandal erupts, he could really be in trouble. Campaigning is also very stressful, where he'll have to sit down and drink rye with the commoners like all politicians do. His alcoholism could lead to an
Thomas Egleton moment in the middle of the campaign, or it could be a godsend like it was for George W. Bush. Either way, good plausible choice for a game of who's who, but it's doubtful that it will ever occur. Joe has matured well, and is both comfortable with who he is and what he's doing. He has a good and comfortable job in the mornings where he can show up late and not be hounded on because no one really wakes up that early, and he can go back home and be with his family. When I look at Joe Scarborough for president, I think of Chris Matthews for senator. Good on paper, but in the end, they'll realize how good they have it now, and will choose to stay where they are.
By the way. Sarah Palin? Seriously? That ship sank a while ago. She may excite the base, but like Howard Dean, the party elders will race to fine a viable anti-Sarah. She's the antithesis of traditional conservatism. Reaganism, and conservatism promotes the rewarding of those who work hard for things, and prides those who don't quit and persevere. She hasn't done any of that. If she quit due to pressure from the "media" and some mediocre legislatures, then she's not going to survive foreign politics, let alone the first rounds of GOP debates. However if she does win the GOP nomination, and then succeed to be president, I do find solace that 2012 is supposed to be the end of the world, and there's nothing wrong with going out in a bang.
allonfla
He wouldn't get any Liberals - they only watch him so they can challenge him on twitter. Trust me, they think he's a moron half the time.
newswoman
Absolutely, not so. He's a thinking Rep which is a rarity these days and he stands out because of it. He condemns the 'Bithers", the "Death Panelists", the healthcare meeting disrupters and the rightwing crazies in general. Yes, he gets flack some times from the rigid thinkers on the left, but in general, he is liked.
jpelhamtn
He's a moron 100% of the time.
allonfla
@newswoman: sigh! he is the class clown in the Liberal classroom. And please, his moments of fairness don't fool me. They all do it, the GOP. McCain, Newt, etc. They'll say something reasonable and then in the next sentence tell a flat out lie. And it's not the Left that's rigid in their thinking.
newswoman
I agree that neither Joe Scarborough nor Sarah Palin will run again for political office. Who needs that hassle? They've been there and done that. He has a great job, as you say, and she can speak to groups and make plenty of money.
sritchey
Exactly
ukeman
With that list IMO liberals can sleep easy at night.
'nuff said.
elldeen
I think that the "decline" of Barack Obama is greatly exaggerated. Clinton had poll numbers in the 40's sometime before he was re-elected, and Obama is still in the high 50's range. This goes to show that polls are not so reliable, and the only poll that matters is the one at the ballot box.
Barbara416
I enjoy Morning Joe. I find Scarbourough fair and even for the most part. But, really he has no new ideas what so ever.
Ritarita
And the ones
He does have
Are very hard to find.
jpelhamtn
Well said Ritarita!
getkicksonrte66
You need to get out more sweetie -- Joe has you hoodwinked.............
His show is garbage............
dana64
nothing new..............that is what conservatism is .............which is a liking for status quo while we hear in AMERICA that CHANGE is the only CONSTANT................the only thing that does not seem to change is the POWER of the REPUBLICAN party to RULE even if they have lost the election.
I DETEST JOE
roninkannushi
Fellow Beasts,
Joe Scarborough left Congress five months into his fourth term to spend more time with his children. Hmm...does that sound familiar?
Yep, Joe Scarborough abruptly resigned his Congressional seat amidst allegations of an affair, with his intern.
So much for objective journalism from Mark McKinnon. Overall, I did think he wrote a good article, though. Excuses nor lies work for me. One deceptive paragraph ruined a good read.
It be it,
Ronin Kannushi.
nightlybeast
It's far worse than that. Scarborough abruptly resigned his Congressional seat amidst allegations of an affair, with his intern, WHO WAS FOUND DEAD IN HIS OFFICE ON ONE OF SCARBOROUGH'S LAST DAYS IN THE SEAT, during the Gary Condit/Chandra Leavey affair.
It was ruled an accident.
But wow, talk about a reason not to run...no, Joe has a comfortable gig at MSNBC that he can enjoy without ever having to go through a re-investigation of that whole matter. It's probably nice to have people flatter you with suggestions that you run, so I'm sure he enjoys that, but he's not stupid enough to ever go back into electoral politics where his own background would be looked into.
TavernWench
And... the intern turned up dead, at the same time the nation was obsessed with Gary Condit's alleged affair with an intern who also turned up dead.
I thought McKinnon's overall article was good, too, but I have to admit I LOL'd at his "left mid-term to spend more time with his children" line.
politicalpam
At this time the base IS the GOP. There are no party elders and the base is ignorant of GOP conservative history. Their candidate in 2011 will be Sarah Palin. One should remember that anyone who was inclined to vote for Sarah Palin did so in 2008. She lost that election and has only continued to discredit herself amongst moderates and democrats. The GOP has no ideas and no leadership and seems to be afraid to challenge even the most extreme of its party. One need look no further than the silence from the party leaders to today's attacks by Limbaugh and Beck on President Obama's school speech to understand this.
byersl
Joe is a right wing ideologue who is pretending to be a moderate for tv ratings and to possibly set himself up to run. But get him going on something, and his true colors come out. Also, the dead secretary incident, however innocent, the drinking, and the alleged affair with his intern, is just too big a hurdle in my opinion.
dana64
ByersL You are right ...........he just acts moderate because that is how that show wants to advertise itself..............but all his positioning and comments show his true colors.
No , i really really dislike him...............
Ritarita
Is there
No ridiculous topic
Mark McKinnon
Won't write about?
jpelhamtn
Ridiculous articles spawn from people with no convictions...of which McKinnon holds a place near the front of the line.
dana64
he is paid to do trial ballons ...............ridiculous to be so personalty driven.
we need Democratic POLICIES ......not jokers
connie47
Joe's top economic advisor would be Jim Cramer, the guy who told us all to buy Bear Sterans, the guy who runs his TV show on the stock market like the Howdy Doody show, only not as smart. Joe thinks Cramer is some sort of market God. Thanks, but no thanks.
Grimmace
BTW Connie,
Cramer's a Democrat -- voted for and supports the Messiah.
connie47
And your point is? Why would I care how he's registered? Is that supposed to make me change my mind about him? What a tool you are, Grimmace.
By the way, I'm a registered Independent and always have been. I support the Messiah, too, His name is and was Yeshua Ha'Machiach. The President's name is Barack Obama. I used to support both Republicans and Democrats, until the Republicans became what they are today, starting about 8 years ago.
Grimmace
My point is that the financial guy you have so little respect for (Jim Cramer) is also a supporter of your party and President. You were trying to invoke guilt through association for Joe Scarborough based on his supposed affliation with Jim Cramer, so why is it irrelevant to rightly point out that Cramer is more closely alligned with your Messiah -- jyou know the one that isn't the Yeshua dude.
Why don't you register for the Democratic Party if you haven't supported one Republican in the last 8 years and you now support the most liberal President since at least Carter.
connie47
Grimmace,
Typical Republican. This is still a free country and I'll register for the party of my choice or none at all. I suspect you're a very young and immature person. I've got a news flash for you - eight years is not a very long time.
Grimmace
So who are the Republicans on the horizon that you could potentially see yourself voting for? I suspect few if any based on your previous tidbits of wisdom.
Whether you want to call yourself an independent or sign up as a Democrat you are clearly not now a Republican.
connie47
Grimmace,
There's no point in conversing with the stupidity you're posting. You have no clue what you're talking about. You're trying to respond to me, when it's obvious you dont' understand a think I've said either, in spite of my avoiding big words.
Now put up your nasty little attempted barb and have the last word. You're a troll and, as I said before, I suspect a very young and immature one.
Thank you.
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