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Pete Souza / The White House
Tuesday’s elections are a referendum on Obama’s first year, right? But The Daily Beast’s Peter Beinart argues if the Democrats don’t take a hit, the White House isn’t doing its job.
Here’s a secret: Most of the people you see yapping on cable TV aren’t all that interested in government. Sure, they have broad ideological inclinations, but the details of health-care policy leave them bored, confused, or both. What they live for is politics: Who’s up, who’s down, who’s nasty, who’s nice. Pundits often tut-tut about how presidential campaigns start too early, long before most Americans care. But one of the reasons they start so early is that pundits care: After all, every moment they’re talking about Sarah Palin’s chances in Iowa is a moment they’re not talking about fee schedules for Medicare Part B.
When it comes to national politics, in other words, next Tuesday’s gubernatorial elections probably don’t matter, and even if they do, they probably don’t matter in the way people assume.
That’s why this is such a tough year. If 2008 featured lots of politics and very little government, 2009 is the reverse: epic policy battles, but no presidential campaign in sight. Even the midterms are more than a year a way.
In this barren landscape, New Jersey and Virginia—which hold gubernatorial elections next week—represent a kind of oasis. To be sure, few national pundits have much interest in the local wonkery that generally dominate these campaigns: transportation, education, economic development. But campaigns have winners and losers, and from that any pundit worth her salt can spin a tale about the mood of the electorate, the state of the parties, the fortunes of the president. It’s not exactly election eve 2008, but you take what you can get.
I sympathize; I really do. The only problem with all the tea-leaf reading that next Tuesday will bring is that it will be meaningless. As the University of Virginia’s Larry Sabato has pointed out, the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial elections have zero predictive value. Since 1965, in fact, the party that has won the governors’ mansions in Trenton and Richmond has more often than not lost seats in the midterm elections the following fall. (And the midterms, in turn, say nothing about the presidential election two years later.)
That’s partly because these are gubernatorial races. No one on the ballot in either state has voted on Obama’s stimulus plan or the House or Senate’s health-care bills. And even if some voters do use next Tuesday to register an anti-Obama protest vote, that says nothing about what the electorate will do when Obama’s name is actually on the ballot. In fact, for a president, incurring voter anger in your first and second year in office isn’t such a bad thing. Presidencies have an arc. The key is to make sure that your trough comes early so that you’re gaining strength as reelection rolls around. That’s what Ronald Reagan did: The GOP went one for two in the 1981 Virginia and New Jersey gubernatorial elections; then lost 26 House seats in the 1982 midterms, during the depths of recession. But by 1984, the economy was rebounding and Reagan cruised to victory. Similarly, in 1993, Bill Clinton’s first year, Democrats lost in both Virginia and New Jersey before getting crushed in the 1994 midterms. But Clinton won easily in 1996. The counter-example is George H.W. Bush. Republicans held their own in his first midterm elections, in 1990, and Bush’s popularity zoomed skyward in 1991, after America’s victory in the Gulf War. But like a sports team that peaks too early, he was in free fall by the time he came up for reelection in 1992.
So let’s imagine that Democrats lose next week because the GOP’s conservative base flocks to the polls while liberals stay home. For Obama, that wouldn’t be so terrible. The more confident right-wing Republicans become, the more likely they will nominate a Palin-like zealot in 2012. And the more likely Obama will be able to use the GOP’s zealotry to lure independent voters to his side, as Clinton did in 1996, when he made Newt Gingrich a central focus of his reelection bid.
When it comes to national politics, in other words, next Tuesday’s gubernatorial elections probably don’t matter, and even if they do, they probably don’t matter in the way people assume. On the other hand, they could have profound implications for New Jersey’s property-tax rate, and for Virginia’s toll roads. Riveting, I know.
Peter Beinart, senior political writer for The Daily Beast, is a professor of journalism and political science at City University of New York and a senior fellow at the New America Foundation.
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Interesting article, didn't think of it like that but I still don't want the GOP to win - they don't deserve it. In any case, even if the GOP were to win only one race, they would still claim that it was a referendum on Obama and guess what? The media would go, "oh yeah, it is" except it's not.
Referendum, revolution? The GOP is just really hard up for their own version of Obama and his election.
The last thing the GOP needs is a watered down showman like President Obama.When the people start to realize what a Jimmy Carter like failure Obama is turning out to be,they're bound to go in a more conservative direction.A truly fiscally conservative candidate will no doubt do well by the time Obama is done spending our country in to bankruptcy.
By the way,I just heard Pres. Obama is committing more troops to Afgh., this must be the HOPE and CHANGE i've been hearing so much about.
reality4all: What the GOP does need is a watered-down former governor from Alaska to run for President in 2012. A perfect match for a watered-down former governor from Texas who ruined our country...
Go Palin 2012! The Democratic dream!
Hey Alan, that "watered-down former Alaska Governor has been kicking the idiot in the White House's arse on a really regular basis!
When Doug Hoffman wins NY-23, he can thank Sarah Palin for that. Hoffman was sucking wind until she made supporting him the cool thing to do. Now he's jumped from last to first, has every Conservative player in the nation behind him, and even the GOP grudgingly trying to make nice for when he takes his seat in Congress.
Sarah is what you call a leader, something you "progressives" wouldn't understand.
But frankly, The GOP, which SUCKS, is going through the same process the democrat (communist) party went through after getting it's butt kicked in 1994-2006. There is an internal fight for the party.
Does the GOP want to remain democrat/communist lite, and continue not only to lose elections, as well as facilitate the destruction of our nation by the far left whack jobs that are now in charge, or does it want to return to it's Reagan roots.
Currently, there isn't an ounce of difference between the GOP and the democrat/communists, none.
A party has to stand for something, or they are worthless. The democrat/communists figured this out in 2005-2006. They decided to adopt the policies of Karl Marx and move forward. They are wrong, hell they are dangerous, bordering on treasonous, but at least they stand something!
The GOP doesn't know whether to crap or go blind! NY-23 is the perfect example of this.
The GOP in their infinite wisdom goes into a SAFE Conservative Republican district and chooses a candidate that is to the left of 43 percent of the democrat/communists in the NY Assembly! A woman who has a union thug husband, supports card check, high taxes, porkulus spending, and even approached the democrat/communist party about joining their team!
This woman is so far left that the democrat/communist hate site, the Daily Kos endorsed HER over the generic democrat that is running in this thing! (they have just retracted, now that she is getting shellacked)
Scozzafava is even a Margaret Sanger award winner! Margaret Sanger, of course, is the founder of Planned Parenthood, as well as an associate of the Ku Klux Klan! She founded PP so she could promote the abortion of black babies, who she called "human weeds!"
The KKK was founded by democrats after the Civil War. What in the hell is the GOP doing endorsing someone who has ties to that crap?
This is why the Conservatives have all gotten behind Hoffman. Conservatives are the largest group in America. Always have been. Liberals are by far the smallest. Not even half as many as Conservatives, according to polling that has been going on for ever.
The GOP has been nothing more than democrat/communist lite for so long, that voters, when given the choice, will just go ahead and vote for the real thing, rather than the "watered -down" substitute.
When Conservatives run, they win in landslides. When the GOP runs squishes, "reach across the aisle," democrat/communist lite "moderates" they get slaughtered. Look at Bob Dole, or John McCain.
Hell, try as she might, even Sarah Palin couldn't drag that idiot across the finish line. Of course, without her, he would have lost by biblical proportions, but still.
Look for a whole lot more Sarah Palins and a whole lot less John McCains.
Our way WORKS always has.
The democrat/communist agenda is an epic fail. Obama is the very definition of failure. By far the worst elected leader in human history, a pathetic waste of time. A sorry excuse for a man. A petty, pathetic narcissist that thinks it's all about him.
We are going to need people who have actually had jobs before, and know how the real world works to turn this catastrophe around. These Ivy League idiots, IN BOTH PARTIES, who are educated well beyond their intelligence, have got to go!
We need people who have actually read and UNDERSTAND the Constitution, and people who believe in America. We need people who want to take us back to a Representative Republic and away from this central planning way of thinking that got us in this mess in the first place.
This "progressive" BS started with Teddy Roosevelt, went into overdrive under FDR, and has now allowed a full on Marxist to come to power.
This trend has to stop!
That's the spirit, gary4205! The more crazies like you rant, the better Sarah's chances for nomination in 2012.
Palin in 2012! The Democratic dream!
Alan,if palin is such a joke why are you libs. already attacking her three years out from the election?I didn't bring palin up,you did.But like all your posts,you mask your liberal idealogical insecurity with insults and irrelevant points.
It's easy to get the simple minded to back you if your president,just give away money!Pres.Obama is the prime example of this.But when the money runs out and all you libs have dug us into a whole ,it will be a conservative that digs us out.Obama is bankrupting us ,but you libs. are still too high on HOPE and CHANGE to notice.But then again,only half the country actually pays taxes,I wonder if you do?
P.S. Bush wasn't a conservative and most real conservatives I know feel the same way,but i'm curious.You say Bush ruined our country.Could you please elaborate?
reality4all asked: "You say Bush ruined our country. Could you please elaborate?"
Sure. He added $5 trillion to our national debt, didn't stop 9/11, started two unwinnable wars, authorized torture, allowed the CIA to spy illegally on all Americans, generally ignored our Constitution, and ruined America's reputation around the world. There's more, but this will do for a start.
By the way, how convenient that Bush is a RINO. I guess that means you didn't vote for him in 2000 and 2004?
How could I have forgotten, reality4all, to mention Bush's Great Recession?
As a Virginian I can tell you, local issues and candidates DO matter. Deeds has run an abysmal campaign, but If he looses it will be "Obama's fault?" Thats like saying you can put a sac of potatoes with (R) or (D) next to their names and win elections. Its just not so. The dems have won in VA in recent years with excellent candidate selection and organization. This year Deeds has not followed that model. Some dems began believing VA is now Blue and not Purple and let a few bolts loosen, the GOP is exploiting. This race was not about Obama. I'm guessing the same hold true in NJ and NY.
We need reporting from the media not entertaining and muck raking.
This is a good article, but I think any prognosticating about which voters care about which issues and will therefore vote which direction is just wishfull thinking. Major elections--President, Senators, Governors, and a lot of Representatives-- are all just popularity contests.
Sure, I vote my conscience, but most Americans just vote for the person that charms them most, the one that looks best on camera, has the most pleasing voice, promises the most ego-soothing things. That's why Ronald "there's nothing wrong with prosperity" Reagan beat Jimmy "we need to tighten our belts" Carter, Clinton won after a wildy popular Republican pres, and 4 years later against Dole at a time when the country was definitely tacking conservative, it's why Bush beat Gore and Kerry, who each ran terrible, confusing campaigns, and it's why Obama beat McCain, and Hillary would have, too, because McCain just comes off as frail and wishy-washy, which stands no chance versus "Hope".
I can't even really be sure I'm immune to this, even though I voted against Bush twice--but then, he didn't really charm me.
It's a big popularity contest. Just like a high school class president election--that's what we are, a nation of high schoolers (no offense to high schoolers).
Beinart has long been a groveling, apologist for the right and his intellectual skills are as lacking as his integrity.
To suggest that the Democrats "should lose," would mean a return of the Republican Party to power, which has been the most destructive force in American society for the past five decades.
If the Republicans were to regain power, healthcare would be off the table entirely, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would go on and on, and the phony panacea of more tax cuts for the rich (with increased deficits) would be proposed to end the deep recession their previous policies produced.
Not that Beinart cares. He's got healthcare, he's not going to fight in any war and tax cuts suit him fine. Who cares what suffering and worse the rest of America has to endure?
Why does the TDB publish such crap?
The real issue is the headline and article have nothing to do with each other.
I disagree. This article seems to be an attempt to re-write what we already know. If a party loses sits in a midterm election it is because the people don't like what's going on plain and simple. If that weren't the case sitting incumbents would never be kicked out! Please enough of trying to re-dress or change what is known.
"and we are not saved..."
These election's in New Jersey and Virginia do matter they are a reflection on the President and the Democratic congress on how they are handling their jobs or not handling their jobs.
What this really is about is the turn out, if many people come out to vote this means the constituents are serious. Their vote will be expressing their negative feeling towards big Gov't. Healthcare,taxes, czars, cap and trade, the economy and no jobs, I do believe there will be a big turnout because negativeity is high.
I know these are just governor's races but it is sending a message and a trickle up effect to the President.
A clear case of confirmation bias, if I ever saw one.
I don't like any of them VOTE THEM ALL OUT then put the cuffs on the top three terrorist's
and i think we all know who they are
Comments like these are ridiculous. Let's just start here - please define "them." Apparently, you think "them" should be obvious, but I just think of the paranoid conspiracy theorists' omnipresent, all-powerful "them" that never gets any further identification. I think lack of precision in language is both a symptom of, and cause of (as it accentuates the process that had already started), unorganized and incoherent thought. So please, define your terms.
I can't define NewyorkerR's terms, but I can define mine. (And don't think I'm railing on everyone because Obama won, I voted for him because of Palin.)
Government politics is hopeless. I wonder if anyone who works in D.C. has ever learned the meaning of the word efficiency? If they weren't corrupted (By which I mean they play the game to win, i.e. get elected to a higher and higher office, as opposed to trying to make real progress that will help anyone not directly contributing to their campaign funds.) when they first got elected to an office, the game and it's perks will corrupt them before they even get to the state level. Entire industries (media especially) are based on the lies, deceit, and angling; and they will do whatever is necessary to protect it. The only fix would be to uproot the ENTIRE system all at once, a truly impossible and extremely dangerous task. It could never work in any way because to do so would immediately leave us vulnerable in a national security sense, and done bits and pieces, or even large sections at a time, would leave bureaucrats in power to influence the selection of the replacements. Maybe if we just stopped paying them, or just enough to live, truly making the jobs 'public service'... But who would vote for their own pay cut?
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville
All politics is local. When you are talking about the true midterm elections, when you are sending representatives to Congress, then yes, that is a referendum on how the country feels about the direction the country is going. But governors races are about how people want their state to be run. The governor of Virginia or New Jersey has no affect on what is happening in Washington: They can only affect what is happening in their state. If a governor has been strongly aligned with an unpopular President it could make a difference, but that isn't the case this year.
On the other hand, it will be interesting to see how the New York congressional race turns out. It may be the first real signs of the GOP implosion.
The best thing that could happen to America is the elimination of the Republican Party as a force in our politics. Not that the Democratic Party is virtuous or always does the right thing, because they don't.
Democrats are divisive, fractious and often self-destructive, but they have invariably been the Party that has moved America forward and changed things that needed to be changed.
It would be great if a new Independent political Party emerged that fought for the important things the Democrats don't seem interested in such as: getting private money out of politics, prosecuting any politician who violates the nation's laws, especially the U.S. Constitution, seriously challenging the corporate culture of corruption, greed and pollution.
There are many issues an Independent Party could espouse, instead of what we currently get from the Republicans with their anti-science, anti-woman and anti-gay inanities and insanities.
You sir must be a drunk
Leave it up to an arrogant, high on pot (or worse), leftist hippie like Periscope to be able to dismiss a political party that represents half of his fellow Americans. This is how dictatorships are created, by people like Periscope who call themselves democrats , but are in fact nothing but bloody dictators in the making. People like him, hide behind the democratic party, because they know that they would be laughed and run off the stage, the minute people realized their ridiculous and dangerous true intentions for our beloved country.
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Maobama? Wow, you really will repeat whatever Fox tells you.
What do you expect from a troll, louiexiii?
let the excuses begin.... gee atleast wait 'til the elections.
With McDonnell assured of victory in Va, and Scozzafava almost guaranteed to lose in NY-23, the wingnuts will be crowing next week no matter what happens in NJ.
In their eyes, every result is good news for Republicans. Handing NY-23 to the Dems or winning with the independent Hoffman will both be framed as a win for the Club for Growth arm of the party, and Christie's loss will be written off as a bad campaign.
So I'm prepared to be disgusted by the lapdog media picking up the Republican talking points that this election was some mandate against Obama. But encouraged by the knowledge that this will drive the wingnuts to demand ideological purity from their candidates next year, leading to the a slew of unelectable nominees like Marco Rubio.
Christie is not a bad campaign, he's just suffering form the last hope play in the demcratic playbook - 3rd party candidates. Funny how so many of the people that maxed out donations to that crook Corzine are also giving to Daggett. You will see a host of Soros sponsored 3rd party candidates where dems are in trouble next year because their only hope in hanging on to seats is to split the majority votes against them. 0bama will need a perot to win in 2012 if the republicans don't let the press pick their candidate as in 2008.
Another clueless Republican.
Daggett is a moderate Republican. It's the ineptitude of the Christie campaign that gave rise to his candidacy and will probably cause Christie to choke away the election. Recent polling has shown that he is drawing more votes away from Corzine than Christie, yet in early voting (11% of the electorate has already voted) Corzine is leading by 8%. This bodes very badly for Christie, as early voting is an indicator of voting enthusiasm. Looks like the air has been let out of the Christie balloon.
I'm sure acorn will get involved.
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Sounds like democrats are preparing for a big loss! That's good!
Sounds like Republicans are preparing to run Palin in 2012. That's good! (But not for Republicans!)
no, republicans aren't gonna run Sarah, UNLESS?
I guess you're just another RINO, Rhonda. Wait until Sarah hears about you!
Ms Palin will NOT run...she's too busy making money, which is what President Obama will be doing in 3 or 7 more years. Sorry to disappoint you Palin haters: she will NOT, NOT run. (however she'll pobably have alot to say about whoever does) I will bet any Vegas odds against her running.
Wise up, and pick somebody else to whine about.
dems got confused about what the mandate was. they won because of independents freaked by the economic downturn. if they would concentrate on task #1 perhaps they could gain electorate support for the programs nearer and dearer to their hearts.
It was a referendum on Bush in 2006 and 2008 and now this mini election is a referendum on Obama now. That's how it works. It doesn't take too deep of thought. To think the New Jersey governor race is even close is mind boggeling. What next, a conservative in Michigan....now way.
for many it was a referendum on bush, but independents are primarily practical rather than true believers, hence not party members. it was the threatening economic free fall that motivated independents. no one was confused, bush was gone.
I think Mi is doomed, 8 years of Granwhore and Mi is the model Obama wants to use for the rest of US. All business, packed up and gone and welfare queens and Acorn run the elections. Mi is the community organizers dream.
"rhonda"; I submit - your thoughts are Loopy and you're a "Toilet Mouth" with Absolutely NO Respect for yourself or your fellow man/woman!!!
To blame Granholm for the incompetence of industry is a real stretch of the lack of imagination.
ROYAL ACORNS !!
I'm sure you realize that NJ has a long history of electing Republican governors, don't you (Kean, Whitman)? Independents make up the largest part of the electorate. It's cyclical in NJ. Republicans get elected on a fiscal responsibility platform, screw up the state to the point of bankruptcy, Dems are elected to fix things, raise taxes to cover the Republican revenue shortfalls, and then the electorate screams about taxes and woos the Republican agains. Rinse, repeat.
The only problem is that Christie, who should have been assured of election, is even more corrupt than Corzine, and has run the worst campaign this side of Creigh Deeds.
What has Corzine fix in the last 4 years in NJ, you nitwit?
To clarify the following statement - that's because the campaign never ended.
That's why this is such a tough year. If 2008 featured lots of politics and very little government, 2009 is the reverse: epic policy battles, but no presidential campaign in sight. Even the midterms are more than a year a way.
Anyone suggesting "Why the Democrats Should Lose" despite offering historical results, is a "HACK" who's likely hoping the Negative Psychological impact of losing could have a "carry-over effect" leading up to the 2010 and 2012 Elections.
Much more meaningful and logical is "Why the Republican's Should Lose." And the simplistic answer is IT REALLY WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL AMERICANS!!!
Witness the recent lack of predictability of the "Independent Thinking" Democrats, who enjoy - by mandate a substantial Majority in Congress and they also hold the Executive Office. It is reasonable to assume Democratic Legislators do tend to follow the "Will of those they were elected to represent." And it does take Courage and Integrity to "break from FAITH TO THE PARTY" to represent the will of those who elected you!!!
The Democratic Party represents a BROAD CROSS-SECTION of America in a REAL BIG-TENT. They represent; All Regions of the Country, the Impoverished, the Middle Class, the Wealthy, All Ages, Both Genders, All Lifestyles, Races, Ethnicities, Cultures, Religions, Liberals, Progressives, Moderates....... and yes also some Conservatives.
Democrats will Seek Compromise and Negotiations with their Opposition. And they will disagree internally, and even publicly to fight for the "will of their constituents." And their "disagreements" aren't a PLOY or and ACT - to curry favor from their constituents.
Conversely, if history is any reasonable indicator, if we now had a Republican Congress and Executive, ANY BILL Republicans would have chosen to introduce, "Good or Bad", "Right or Wrong", "Deemed Needed by THE PEOPLE or Not", it surely would have been SUPPORTED 100%, by the Monolithic, "March To The Order" Republican Party. Thankfully this is an Unpopular Political approach... The people have awaken and found such politics to be Unfair, Improper and Dangerous for our society! Yes....... and that's the reason "Why the Republican's Should Lose" in VA, NJ and NY23!!!
Oh I get it. So they only count if it's liberals who will gain from the various Governors races. Wipe the snot off your nose Libs. VA Governors race is def about the man they call BHO. Here's the basic difference between Republicans and Democrats.
"If a Republican does not want a gun, they don't buy one"
If a Liberal does not want a gun, he wants to ban it from everyone"
"If a Republican does not eat meat, he does not buy meat"
"If a Liberal does not like meat, they demand they we stop selling meat"
Let me make it clear to all you idiot liberals. I have worked on Capital Hill for over 25 years. I can tell you that the majority of Democrats in both the House & Senate are snot nose people who care nothing about the average American. You can believe what you want. Welfare has destroyed this country. We have confiscated trillions of dollars from the working class and diverted it to the non working poor. Majority of Welfare Programs were established by Democratic Legislators. They truly believe in the give them a fish daily routine. Republicans would however like to take them to Walmart and buy them a fishing pole. This Administration spends more time worrying about entertainers such as Limbaugh & Hannity. Bush never gave a rats As_ about what Letterman, Maher or Keith Overbite had to say. He rose above all that. But not this cry baby administration. I mean how laughable was it that they actually did a fact check on the Saturday Night Live Skit against Obama. How pathetic was that? I could tell you about several episodes on the Hill involving Maxine Waters and Capital Hill Staff; however that would put me in jeopardy against the Non Disclosure Agreement that we are all held to as Capital Hill Staffers. The Woman is evil. I have had several run ins with Ms Pelosi. She is very rude. But let me get back on topic. The Governors races are indeed a referendum on this Administration. The people of the Commonwealth of VA are fed up with our Liberal Legislators. We have a serious illegal immigration problem in No VA and the Liberal Law Makers sat back and did nothing. PW County was the only jurisdiction to leadership on that issue. They saw a growing problem and took care of it. Conservatives are back and stronger then ever. Don't forget that Republicans always have to get 55% of the vote to counter the fraud by Democrats. Wonder how many of those 40,000 voters that Accorn signed up in Minn are actually real people? Guess we will never know. God Bless AmericaQQ
Cobra01: You must have forgotten this:
"If a Liberal does not want an abortion, she doesn't get one."
"If a Republican does not want an abortion, she wants to ban it from everyone."
We could also talk about gay marriage, but you probably get my point...
By the way, you could use some work on creating paragraphs. I hope your work on Capital Hill - assuming you're truthful - didn't involve writing stuff.
For the real deal on the vaccine issue, this just in:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15860
michaelslevinson.com
In leftwing wacko land the presidents job isn't to represent the people. No, his job is to cram something that their throats because his ilk know what's best for the people than they do. People disagreeing more as they get the details is just a verification of this.
Exactly! Just like the Patriot Act, preemptive war, nation building, abstinence only sex education and the elimination of stem cell research.
yes, Bush screwed the pooch as well. He did have some Democratic support though for the war. Your "sex education" is short sided and stupid. As a parent, I am more than capable of teaching my children about sex and life. I don't need the government guiding me through all obstacles in life...I do have independent thought and ideas that don't require government intervention.
The majority of the people in the polls supported all of these things. It's just you leftwing paranoid nuts who had it crammed down your throats. You wouldn't have been against it either, if those leftwing websites hadn't been feeding you cr*ap. All they cared about was revenge for the Bush/Gore election but you were too stupid to recognize that, whatever lunacy they fed you, you bought into it. Now you're like rabid pit bulls over all of it.
Favorite Redneck #1 aka, clearthinker,
"Your "sex education" is short [sighted] and stupid." Of course, as usual, you are Right.
And I'm sure you are first in line to volunteer to go around to all of the homes of all those kids that don't have such loving, knowledgeable and caring parents as you are to your kids and give those unfortunate kids advice on how best to manage their sex lives.
As most pseudo-cons, your comments are self-centered, cruel and, of course, short sighted. You moral supremacists always seem to forget that there are other people in this world and most of them think differently than you do.
Wouldn't it be nice if you could just kill everyone that isn't just like you?
Favorite Redneck #2 aka, ThinkAgain,
One thing I always enjoy about reading your hateful diatribe is that you are consistently contradicting yourself.
How did you put it: "People disagreeing more as they get the details is just a verification of this."
You need to change you moniker to Plaxico because you have such a tendency to shoot yourself with your own weapon.
Wouldn't it be nice if you could just kill everyone that isn't just like you?
PRoche: Love your "Redneck" comments! You saved me from having to reply to these guys...
Peter Beinart, I did not know who you were before I read the article. Your credentials at the end of the article are impressive, the article is far from impressive.
As an independent voter and a resident of NJ, I am not voting for Corzine because he is an absolute moron. At least in NYS governor Paterson, although massively unpopular, wants to take the painful but necessary steps to bring fiscal order.
In our homes we cut down on certain things if we lose our jobs, why can't democratic politicians do the same? Corzine keeps succumbing to the unions and give it all away, Obama keeps on spending money we don't have.
Obama won't be able to lure back independents, I don't know one person that voted for Obama that is nor regretting it, and even some democrats are unhappy with his mediocre performance (at best) after almost a year in office .
Maybe you can take a course in economics and teach teenagers basic economics, instead of writing meaningless articles.
Why was this article even written?
Wooo....that article has so much spin going on I feel a little woozy....you current batch of Dems/Facists see what an incompentent corrupt boob you helped get into the White House and the even more corrupt and as stupid batch of idiots that floated in with him...and I think even many of you are taken aback...there has got to be some way to blame the Republicans...blame Bush....frantic frantic...spin spin...lololol
"caseblue"; You're a "Teabagger"....... right?
Baloney.... you are just covering the Democrat butts...
Democrats.... screwed
Obama.... useless coattails
too bad, tough luck, they mean everything... and show that the Demorats are going to get the boot in 2010...
start crying now.
Just wait until Sarah runs in 2012, timmyboy!
That's the most convoluted thinking I've read in a long time. The writer seems to be trying to make a loss a win and a win a loss or a loss a loss and a win a win and somehow look like a genius no matter how the elections fare. Geez - this isn't even a midterm. It's an off-year. Democrats won some very traditionally Republican strongholds and may win more and may give some back. Big deal.
Well, Peter, if both governorships AND NY-23 go GOP, please make sure that you tell your Dem buddies in Congress that the results "don't matter". I'm sure they'll be impressed.
Thank you.
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