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Nancy Pelosi, Feminist Nightmare
The challenge for women as this next wave of “feminism” continues to unfold is to re-engineer our thinking on women’s advocacy. Unless you were sleeping for the last two weeks, you by now have realized that the Democratic Party is not the party of women. Nor is the Republican Party. We must, as a gender, unite around the issues that impact us all—just as our women senators have united this year to pass fair pay and to protect women contractors from rape. We should embrace what the current Newsmax cover describes as The Newer Feminism, which has a home for leaders regardless of political affiliation: Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, Suzy Welch, and Kathy Ireland, among others.
Women will advance when we bolster women’s representation in leadership positions. State’s Exhibit A: If it were not for women leaders, the Stupak amendment might already be the law of the land. Democratic Reps. Dianne DeGette of Colorado and Jan Schakowsky of Illinois pulled together a coalition. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand organized a news conference with other women leaders. Senate candidate Coakley courageously denounced the House bill while her male competitor (the one that Pelosi endorsed) pegged her as naïve. Meanwhile, women’s organizations were working together and organizing their members. Mind you, there was barely a peep from progressive men early on. Even Nicholas Kristof told women to subjugate their reproductive rights and get health care passed.
We must seize this moment to work together toward better representation and stronger women’s organizations. There needs to be accountability for those who sell us out. And here's the conversation that we want to hear someday soon on Air Force One: “We need to prioritize women’s issues. Or else we won’t be able to get support from the numerous women senators or representatives that we need to advance our agenda," says Madame President. In the meantime, ladies, it’s time for unity.
Amy Siskind is the president and co-founder of The New Agenda, an organization dedicated to improving the lives of women and girls. Ms. Siskind has appeared on CNN, Fox, and PBS. Ms. Siskind also writes for HuffPo and MORE.
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MaliciousDisorder
The feminist movement turned into a huge fraud. If your not in the pack and aligned with the left women mean about as much to the movement as Clarence Thomas did to blacks.
If women would pay attention to the new media and learn to read they would find much of the health care bill is an attack on women and the elderly. Read the UK socialist, government control health care policies and you'll find the same policies regarding mammograms, and lots lots more. UK women are dying much earlier and more often due to the same policies your supposed feminist leadership supports.
How long will it be before they begin killing new born baby girls to control the population like China ?
I guess women will always be what people think they are.
AlanD2
Mal, you're a huge fraud.
You forgot to mention that the UK has better health care overall than we do, covers all citizens, and costs about half as much per person. Plus, the British have a longer life expectancy than we do.
Please skip the cherry-picking here.
MaliciousDisorder
IF you want to check out fraud, get a load of snake oil Al Gore's new book called Our Choice, A Plan to Solve the Climate Crisis. Fact check that book and get back to me. Start with the photo shopped supposed real time earth with the real, real time photo of Mother Earth..
MrsPolly
Alan, ever notice how when Mal loses an argument, s/he immediately changes the subject?
Oh, look! Here's Mal with Al Gore!
AlanD2
MrsPolly: Yeah. Like Winnie, Plant, Baddie, and Frosty, Mal isn't too good with rational arguments.
But I completely understand them. After all, reality has a liberal bias.
Conservatives: Not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Natural-Selection
Arguable....but I definitely don't want their dental plan!!!
Natural-Selection
Maybe "she" is actually a "he?" There sure is a hell of a lot of plastic surgery going on there???
winston1
AlanD Actually I find you incoherent. Also very repetitiive for example, "France has the best health care". We are willing to excuse you because you are a Democrat it's expected. " Not the sharpest tool in the shed,"
AlanD2
Sorry, Winnie. As long as conservatives like you are spreading lies, I am going to be repeating that our health care system is crappy compared to France, which has the best health care in the world at half the cost per person of ours.
Get used to it, or go troll somewhere else.
Conservatives: Living in a Fact-Free Zone.
gameon
At what point did any of you liberal geniuses prove malicious wrong?Of course U.K. health costs half as much,they have half as many doctors as we do.Their surgeon density per 10,000 people is 3.8 vs. 5.2 for the U.S..They also have roughly twice the wait for specialty procedures .On a per million population basis they have one-quarter the c.t. scan machines and one-third the m.r.i. machines.As far as total investment in medical facilities;The U.S. has twice as much per capita as the U.K. does.
Also have any of you taken into account the 20 million illegal immigrants that use our emergency room as their primary care?That skews the numbers as far as costs ,life spans and waits for specialty procedures are concerned.Have any of you taken these things into account and how do you back up the "U.K. has better health care than we do" line Alan?And lets not "cherry pick",because we're all against that, right?
If malicious is so off base about Al Gore then it should be easy for you geniuses to prove him wrong.give us something,anything other than pompous Liberal arrogance and lines about how smart all of you are.
As for the article;Feminazi's are thugs,Nancy Pelosi looks like Keith Richards and Health care rationing is already starting.Why do Democrats want women to die from Breast cancer?What would you feminists say if bush was doing this to you?
AlanD2
gameon: I'm happy to supply the the information you wanted.
The latest survey of world-wide health care was made by the World Health Organization in 2000. Check out
http://www.who.int/whr/2000/media_centre/press_release/en/index.html
Some excerpts from the WHO press release follow:
"The World Health Organization has carried out the first ever analysis of the world's health systems. Using five performance indicators to measure health systems in 191 member states, it finds that France provides the best overall health care followed among major countries by Italy, Spain, Oman, Austria and Japan."
"The U.S. health system spends a higher portion of its gross domestic product than any other country but ranks 37 out of 191 countries according to its performance, the report finds. The United Kingdom, which spends just six percent of GDP on health services, ranks 18 th . Several small countries - San Marino, Andorra, Malta and Singapore are rated close behind second- placed Italy."
As you can see, WHO rated the UK 18th, while we were 37th. Thus the "U.K. has better health care than we do". QED.
Any more questions?
gameon
I have many more questions.
So your basing your whole arguement on a W.H.O.study done in 2000,that uses "cherry picked information" ? Out of the five indicators,three are completely bogus and set up to favor countries who currently have socialized medicine.Their is no taking into account our huge illegal immigrant problem,our higher homicide rate,the fact that we're wealthier than most countries and spend more because we can or the actual satisfaction of the patient using the services.
Not to mention that ranking small countries that are in no way comparable to the U.S. in size is misleading at best.Here's some countries that rank above us;Oman-3.5 mill.,Chile 17 mill.,Costa Rica-4.5 mill.,Dominican repub.-10 mill.,U.A.E-6 mill.,Cyprus-800,000.Do you really think a place like Cyprus is a fair comparison?Since Columbia is ranked #22 are you going to book a plane to Columbia to go get an operation? Many of these countries have less people than the city I live in.Give any of these countries 20 million illegals and see what happens to their bogus rating.I would recommend you look into the way the study was done before we base the largest government run program in history on bad math and false statistics.
How does the U.K. produce better results with fewer Doctors,half the medical facilities,half the m.r.i. and ct. scan machines and twice the wait time for specialty procedures?How does that work?
If all you liberals can do is regurgitate a nine year old leftist study using cherry picked indicators then you really aren't basing your argument on solid ground, in my opinion.On top of all the questions about quality of care are the concerns about allowing the Gov. to make decisions for you,which in and of itself is unamerican.
By using bad studies you discredit your whole argument.
I don't blame you,Liberals often mistake brainwashing by Socialist Professors for education.
AlanD2
gameon: If you have better or more recent sources, bring them on. I'm always interested in getting current information.
If you are just BSing, find some other place to troll.
gameon
SHENANIGAN'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's you and your type that are cramming this "Health Care Reform "Crap through, not me.This bogus study is being used as the basis for the largest Government takeover of private business in the history of this country and you have the balls to call me a troll because I disagree with it?Wouldn't a prudent person/Government demand an indisputible study to find out what the actual problems are and how to solve them?Why would you blindly support a Health Care Bill that you have no idea whats in it?WHAT THE HELLS WRONG WITH YOU LIBERALS?
You people must have lost your minds to blindly give control over your health to the Government.Call me crazy,but I think the time to do the indepth studies are before you pass a bill ,not after.Doesn't something this big deserve an extra degree of thoroughness at the very least?
Only a "Progressive "could think something this stupid is intelligent.
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IS A MONEY GRAB BY POLITICIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AlanD2
gameon: If you cannot post any links to sources that support your arguments, I see no point in further discussion.
You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how unreasonable it seems to me. But don't expect me to take any note of it.
gameon
Burden of proof is on you ,numbnuts.Your proposing the legislation,you have to back it up with facts.All my statistics are easily accessible on the internet by googling u.s. vs. u.k. healthcare.Your W.H.O. study is bogus and all your left with is your ego to protect.
What part of my comments are unreasonable?Please enlighten me.You haven't given one reason to support Socialized medicine,not one.You haven't told me how the U.K. is able to provide more care with less capacity.You have nothing ,except for a nine-year old study based on skewed statistics.And you call me unreasonable?
Your the perfect liberal,all the dems. have to do is appeal to your greed and envy and you'll jump on board any scam of a bill that they want to put through.
Your a tool ,in more ways than one.
Ronym5
Yes because if feminist had not fought to be in the same colleges as men.
To have the same athletic chances as men.
To have a chance at getting elected to office like men.
We wouldn't have to deal with Coulter, Palin, or Bachmann.
Monk66
Another Post for Amy (McCarthy of the FemiNazis) Siskind
I can sum it up for you in 3 different scenarios.
1. This man hates women and all women should unite to overthrow the tyrant.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-10/how-obama-sold -women-out/
2. This woman hates women and all women should unite to throw this man-lover out.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-03-11/is-valerie-jar rett-anti-woman/
3. This woman might have a chance to get high office, so all of us women should back her regardless of what she supports, how ignorant she is, or how unqualified she is.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-04/should-women-b ack-palin-in-2012/
winston1
AlanD Obama should make you his health care czar. All day all night yada,yada,yada.
AlanD2
I'm just trying to keep up with you, Winnie!
By the way, I'm sorry you're not smart enough to post to the right comment, as usual.
opedanderson
Pelosi would sell out her own mother to further her political career.....
AlanD2
Please, opedanderson. You're confusing her with Sarah Palin.
amapola101
AlanD2, if you tell me where I can read all the information about how our healthcare is that far behind, I would appreciate it. The wealthy french,saudi dubai, UK, canadian South Africans, South Americans, all come here for their medicine,!!The wealthy always go to the best. Now India is where they are looking into,but .I would like to read why we are so behind, 37 place,??Im interested.
Monk66
you just said it,
the wealthy come here
if everybody was wealthy we'd have a great health care system.
we aren't all wealthy.
for the non-elite, the health care in this country sucks.
AlanD2
Sure thing, amapola101.
The latest survey of world-wide health care was made by the World Health Organization in 2000. Check out
http://www.who.int/whr/2000/media_centre/press_release/en/index.html
Some excerpts from the WHO press release follow:
"The World Health Organization has carried out the first ever analysis of the world's health systems. Using five performance indicators to measure health systems in 191 member states, it finds that France provides the best overall health care followed among major countries by Italy, Spain, Oman, Austria and Japan."
"The U.S. health system spends a higher portion of its gross domestic product than any other country but ranks 37 out of 191 countries according to its performance, the report finds. The United Kingdom, which spends just six percent of GDP on health services, ranks 18 th . Several small countries - San Marino, Andorra, Malta and Singapore are rated close behind second- placed Italy."
WHO's assessment system was based on five indicators: overall level of population health; health inequalities (or disparities) within the population; overall level of health system responsiveness (a combination of patient satisfaction and how well the system acts); distribution of responsiveness within the population (how well people of varying economic status find that they are served by the health system); and the distribution of the health system's financial burden within the population (who pays the costs).
AngelaM
The biggest obstacle to the advancement of women are other women. This is not news.
amapola101
so true,Angela m
djenna8girl
The whole point of feminisim is equality! If women are given special consideration or support just because they are women that makes us no better than those 'old boys clubs'... If women in the media don't stop this constant whining and bitching about other women we will never be taken seriously.
veritas3
Right on Amy. Until woman reach parity with men in positions of leadership we will be the weakest link. United we can move mountains. Big rally in DC on Dec. 2nd. Stand up and sign up!
http://www.ppaction.org/campaign/hcr_dec2_rsvp
Pass Health Care Reform -Stop Stupak
Go to link and sign up if you can- pass this around!
NATIONAL DAY OF ACTION
DECEMBER 2, 2009
9:30 A.M. TO 4:30 P.M.
WASHINGTON, DC
PLEASE JOIN US TO LOBBY THE SENATE FOR HEALTH CARE REFORM THAT ENSURES WOMEN'S ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE.
Veronicaxy
Feminist nightmare? What about "Pelosi is not a feminist stereotype" or "Pelosi is a leader with a tough job to do", or even "Pelosi is not responsible for the growing weakness of a favored cause, and what responsibility do I have here"?
Abortion is losing support, the country is split and healthcare needs every hand on deck to pass.
If anyone is outraged that she is following the orders of her boss and rallying the troops by taking the strongest most sustainable stance to get the job done, they need to recognize if they were doing a better job strengthening the cause she's probably be able to bring it home.
That's her job and she's demonstrating competence.
Monk66
Thank You.
Her job in Congress is not to further women's rights. It is to pass bills that are good for the nation as a whole. she is doing a fine job.
gak001
Well said.
bettycracker
Well, that makes sense if you insist on using logic, facts and junk. But if you see the world through Siskind's warped PUMA lens, all that matters is that Pelosi backed Obama instead of Clinton. That also explains why Siskind views Palin as some sort of feminist hero even though Palin is anti-choice and routinely backs male politicians over female ones (e.g., Perry vs. Hutchison).
bygones
You have to love Amy's logic here. She will defend Palin but doubt she will post the latest crapola in defense of Mary Landrieu where Rush and Glenn Beck referred to her as a "prostitute".
Unless it is some GOP female, i.e., Palin or Bachmann, we will hear nothing about that slanderous insult even though Amy "defends women from sexism". But not all women. Just the faves.
AlanD2
I agree, Veronicaxy.
timeflies
Isn't about feminism, at all.
Or gender. Or any so-called movement.
It's about religion. And greed.
Blame goes to the Vatican for this one, again.
The nature of spineless politicians is expediency - i.e. the quickest route to reelection, while sucking up to and off of corporate America in order to rake in scads of dough for their respective party. Most see that as their primary job, instead of legislating for 'we the people.'
Hard to find anyone in Congress not a nightmare.
ceelaa
Both parties stink and have gotten us no place. I think this article is right on. If Pelosi doesn't have "time" to support other women then that's just sad. What I want to know is why does she seem to actively work against any woman who rises up or tries to. It's just weird.
crypto
Two words: SPOT LIGHT!!! She worked against Hillary all the way and behind the scene. She knew she couldn't controll her so for Hillary to be top dog just wouldn't do.. To call this woman what she really is would be an insult to female dogs everywhere!
nortonclybourn
My, we have an active fantasy life. Are you really staying up nights worrying about the personal resentments and motivations of a Representative from California? Oh, I'm sure you understand the deepest recesses of her soul. Sad.
amapola101
ceelaa,and crypto you are both right. And she is very desliked by women democrats, Republicans, and all. But no one can do a thing. Wonderful healthcare, not like ours, retirement,airplane travels fancy dinners, social parties, what sacrifices has all the politicians,done for us. whose job has been cut, retired, ask to quit, oh I am a broken record and she is awfull.
iamone3
I`ve met many women that had abortions & not one lived without regretting their youthful CHOICE. Far better to live with self control . Not one of the women I talked to was raped.They were just young & a baby didn`t fit into their youthful plans. How sad they didn`t choose adoption.Now they live everyday with the knowledge they murdered their own child.
Monk66
as opposed to the alternative of giving up a child of their own to the widely failed program of foster care?
Catch 22.
iamone3
I believe I said adoption , not foster care.
Monk66
well if you've ever tried to give up a baby for adoption that isnt causasian, you're SOL.
Foster Care takes in far more children than adoption ever will.
gak001
And I've know a few that eventually got over it. Anecdotal evidence isn't worth all that much.
iamone3
Women have gotten over being raped too, but its still apart of their life history. Indeed we can move on & hopefully make better CHOICES so we dont live with so many regrets. We are all human & to err is human. But older women should at least share alternatives with younger women . Ofcourse we all make our own choices in life.
KateTheGreat
and then there are the majority who just go on with their lives without any regrets because they had a surgical procedure to remove of a tiny group of cells the size of a pencil eraser, not "murder of a baby"...the whole "women who get abortions are SUICIDAL BASKET-CASES etc." is a bunch of BS and lies perpetuated by the religious right.
gak001
They should be counseled on the options available, but the anti-abortion activists don't want there to be a choice. Women should be free to make that "mistake" if they so choose.
iamone3
Kate, the "Lie" is that a woman wont be affected by having an abortion. You make having an abortion sound like nothing more than having a bothersome wart removed. This is a disservice to womankind. I hope you rethink your views .I haven`t had one woman tell me they were glad they had an abortion.
AlanD2
iamone3: And how many unwed women are there with children who regret their youthful choice?
I bet you have met some of these, too.
iamone3
An unwed woman can always give the child up for adoption if she regrets giving birth to it.
AlanD2
iamone3: That wasn't my question.
Beside, if the woman changes her mind when the child is 2 or 5 or 10, how likely is the child to be adopted? There are lots of older children waiting for adoption in most states.
iamone3
Alan, I was referring to adoption of babies. But you bring up a very good point, adoption of older children & sad to say you are correct. My own mother was orphaned at age 9 and was never adopted. I think if she were here today she would say she was glad her mother let her live.As you know theres lots of work to do when it comes to children, I just don`t think abortion is the answer. There are exceptions to every rule.
oblomova
There is a difference between being "glad" that I had an abortion, and "regretting" an abortion. I regret that it was necessary. I do not regret having one. Why don't you go talk to the many thousands of women and men who beat, rape, neglect, and abuse their own children about whether or not they are "glad" they had kids?
iamone3
oblomova, Thanks for sharing that. I regret using the word "glad",it was not appropriate. When its necessary one does what one has to do.
nortonclybourn
you are one, all right.
gak001
Meh, Sarah Palin is more of a nightmare than Speaker Pelosi.
AlanD2
No doubt about than, Gak!
thebaker
Of course Sarah Palin is more of a nightmare, think about all the power she has as a private citizen of the U.S.A. Man, she can spend taxpayer money like crazy, and push laws through Congress like there's no tomorrow! A dangerous, dangerous woman that Sarah Palin is....
gak001
I'm talking about within the context of this article - Sarah Palin is a feminist nightmare. She forced rape victims to pay for their own rape kits - that is absolutely, unequivocally outrageous!!! If that doesn't piss you off, then I don't know what will.
gameon
She should be a feminist hero,she's got a great family,went from nothing to Governor of Alaska,vice-presidential candidate and she's smokin hot.She shows the world you don't have to be an angry lesbian to be a successful woman in this day and age.That really pisses the feminists off.
winston1
At least Sarah's face is not cracking.
gak001
How is that relevant? That tells me that you have no legitimate arguments.
bettycracker
This is pretty freaking rich coming from someone who founded a so-called non-partisan organization on the premise that women's organizations need to get over the choice issue because it divides the sisterhood.
It's also pretty rich coming from someone who voted for the anti-choice, anti-Ledbetter McCain-Palin ticket and runs fluff pieces on anti-choice loons like Michele Bachmann.
There's plenty to be pissed off about regarding the Stupak amendment. But Siskind is the wrong messenger. It's like listening to Amy Winehouse extol the virtues of temperance.
Really, DB, can't you do better than this hypocritical PUMA hack?
bettycracker
Oh, and please explain to us why Pelosi is a traitor to the sisterhood for not backing Coakley but it's cool for Palin to kick Scozzafava to the curb and back Rick Perry over Kay Bailey Hutchison.
Swannee
Nancy " Botoxi " was chauffeured back and forth to schools in Baltimore in a limo... her pretty little priveledged feet were spared having to walk amongst the riff raff of the private Catholic schools she attended. She has never dealt with, or even been exposed to a reality of every day people , or their problems , nor does she really care.
Her career is about ambition and power . She has chosen the route to power ; not as a strong intelligent woman standing on her own ; but as one of those women that choose to appease and manipulate men . This is a well researched and time honored route for women that see themsleves as only having power thru those that already wield it. This is the same mindset that views other women as competitors, which would explain her betrayal of Hillary along with other women . It is so evident in every aspect of her demeanor , that I find even her reflexive smile of approval seeking during her speeches repugnant. She is a sad, pathetic, and anachronistic , representative role model of women.
MrsPolly
Nice, Swannee, pasting your New Agenda comment here complete with disparaging reference to Pelosi's looks. Some big feminist you are.
You have no idea what Pelosi's career consists of, besides her having opposed Hillary Clinton during the 2008 primary. Pelosi's been in the House since 1987. She did not magically assume power, but worked for it. rising gradually to her present position, which you could Google if you PUMAs weren't allergic to finding out anything that goes against your prejudices.
Hillary, btw, and Bill, have both been working on behalf of this health-care bill, complete with Stupak amendment, trying to get it passed. One doesn't hear much from Siskindians or PUMAs about their beloved Saint Hillary's healthcare defection, though. Hillary and Obama's policies were always extremely similar, so it is easy for them to work together. The anger displayed by the left-behinds like Swannee demonstrates that their real agenda was never women, health, or policy at all.
winston1
Kinda like Norma Desmond.
hjunior
why should she have to support a woman for Kennedy's seat? It's truly sad this is even brought up, if she was a man should she then endorse Capuano just because he's another male? At some point people need to get past this kind of thing and look a little deeper. Selling out feminism is quite a different issue from selling out women.
MrsPolly
Amy Siskind's agenda is not getting women reproductive choice; this is merely the latest stick to continue beating:
1. the dead horse of the 2008 Democratic primary in the guise of anyone who supported Obama over Clinton, since Amy is a pawprintless PUMA, and
2. the publicity drum for Amy Siskind.
The supposed "feminist" organization that Amy founded, the New Agenda, states on its own FAQ page that it eschews the "divisive" issue of choice:
"The New Agenda does not take a position on reproductive rights. Choice is an issue which has been used to divide more than unite. The New Agenda focuses on the many issues which unite us."
http://thenewagenda.net/about-us/frequently-asked-questions/
Look at the blog roll: all PUMA blogs, including No Quarter, the racist blog that created the "Whitey tape" smear against Michelle Obama. Amy cross posts AND participates there, cheerfully ignoring the racist comments and articles slamming Michelle for such things as her appearance and not crossing her legs like a lady.
Read the comments at the New Agenda and you'll see it has little to do with feminism and everything to do with simply hating Obama. The Fourth Wave of feminism seems to be supporting anti-choice women (like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin) under the guise of non-partisanship, and slamming Democratic women who dared to oppose Hillary Clinton a year ago, even though they work with her now.
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