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Is This Another Bubble?

Wall Street Richard Drew / AP Photo The markets are rallying as home purchases are up 10 percentto a 6.1 million annual rate, the highest level since February 2007—and gold rose to a new high on the back of a weaker dollar. But Charlie Gasparino says it may be just another case of irrational exuberance.

It’s true—Wall Street loves unemployment.

How do I know this? When I speak to CEOs and others in the executive suites of our big banks, they tell me that if not for the unemployment rate heading toward 10.5 percent, the markets would never have recovered from their financial-meltdown lows. Business conditions are uniformly lousy, but the markets are surging because they are celebrating the government’s solution to high unemployment: easy money. The near-zero percent interest rate offered by the Federal Reserve is supposed to make credit cheap and allow businesses to expand. It hasn’t quite worked out that way, but easy money has made stocks more liquid because investing in anything else doesn’t pay. (Just check out 10-year bond prices.) So stocks will keep going up as long as interest rates remain where they are, and that’s why Wall Street loves high unemployment. Even as the number of jobless Americans continues to mount, the investment banks make money off free money.

“The advice I gave people when the Fed began to lower rates is buy into the market but get ready to sell when they reverse course,” said a board member of one large financial company.

But even Wall Street knows this scheme has got to end; the dollar is getting hammered and people are bidding up gold, all pointing to the growing realization that unless the Fed raises rates again, the dollar will soon be worth far less than a dollar. That’s why a growing number of senior Wall Street executives I speak to use the word “bubble” to describe the market’s recent rally, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average going from a low of around 6500 in March of this year, to comfortably above 10000.

It’s not that they’re pulling money out in any significant way—at least not yet. The banks are, however, poised to do so the minute they see the Fed begin raising its base “Fed Funds” rate, the interest rate that other interest rates take their cues from. That simple act will tighten credit and, so the theory goes, make it less advantageous to invest in U.S. stocks.

“The advice I gave people when the Fed began to lower rates is buy into the market but get ready to sell when they reverse course,” said a board member of one large financial company. “When will the Fed do that? I can’t tell you because the economic fundamentals are so bad they have to keep rates low, at least for now.”

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Normally, the stock market is a reflection of the economy in some way, and yet the market keeps going up even if the economy by every “real” statistic is pretty lousy.

We may now finally be producing economic growth through an increasing GDP, but much of that growth is a function of the fact that things couldn’t get much worse. Beyond that, these big firms have put a hold on hiring, so in many cases they can make money just by sitting still.

Meanwhile, unemployment keeps rising because small businesses can’t get credit to expand from banks that are still holding toxic assets and may need more capital. Commercial real estate is heading into the gutter with the residential stuff. Other job killers include higher taxes on the “rich” and small businesses that are a given thanks to among other reasons, the latest new entitlement coming out of Washington, health-care reform.

Put all of that together and you have what Alan Greenspan once famously termed “irrational exuberance.” Stock touters might believe the Obama Administration that the economy has turned the corner and that the market gains are real, but some smart people I know who run firms and need to make payroll don't think so. In fact, they believe much of the market's gain can be attributed to the herd mentality of investors acting en masse, ignoring the danger signs and completely unaware of what's really propping up stock prices, which is the essence of a bubble. But the bullish herd has a way of changing course, and you don’t want to be standing in front of it when it does.

Charles Gasparino is CNBC's on-air editor and appears as a daily member of CNBC's ensemble. He is a columnist for The Daily Beast and a frequent contributor to the New York Post, Forbes, and other publications. His new book about the financial crisis is The Sellout.

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gak001

As opposed as I am ethically to short-selling - I would love to short-sell gold when the Fed decides to raise interest rates. I hate the arrogance and absurdity of investment in gold and few things would give me more pleasure than sticking it to the guy who keeps saying "You know, you should really invest in gold now that the economy is bad." No - no I shouldn't. America backs its dollar with the most powerful military on the planet and as soon as the economy recovers, gold drops.

Oh how sweet it could be. Anyone have some cash burning a hole in his pocket who wants to lend it to an enterprising youngster?

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2:32 am, Nov 23, 2009

crypto

Close to the end of the first qusrter of 2010 we will see a recession that will make this look puny. Holiday sales are going to be a flop, entire malls are going to close, and the part time holiday work will be gone. Wall street is preparing for it now. I'm not going to argue this with onyone. I know of what I speak. Poo-poo it all you care to. But one piece of advice. Don't buy anything you don't need. Hold on to your Cash Dollars. Twenty four states have had to go to the FED for loans just to pay unemployment as of November 20. The loans are coming from freshly printed money that have no backing. The administration cannot continue paying unemployment with "Dead" money. So that stream will dry up by the end of the fiscal year.

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9:05 am, Nov 23, 2009

AlanD2

The biggest potential disaster awaiting us is the commercial real estate market.

If it collapses - which seems likely - a lot of banks are going to fail, and the recession crypto predicts will almost certainly happen.

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12:01 pm, Nov 23, 2009

scott1607

Ditto on AlanD2's comment -- here in Florida I can see more and more vacant commercial spots every day. It's getting quite ghostly aound town...

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3:42 pm, Nov 23, 2009

gak001

I'm not worried. Maybe when the first quarter comes and goes and we see unemployment drop, you can make your prediction for the next quarter, and when you and your followers are left standing in a field, you can say that no one can calculate it, but it WILL come. 100 years from now, you'll still be famous.

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6:21 pm, Nov 23, 2009

Chicago48

I agree. In Chicago, the Trump Towers is going into foreclosure....that is, two owners of the hotel-condos have lost value and they are being foreclosed on....there may be more on the way. Trump is going into damage control, but his Tower is in real trouble.

And I agree with crypto that the Govt can't keep extending unemployment benefits, the new "welfare". They have to create jobs since private ind. isn't stepping up.

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11:07 pm, Nov 23, 2009

carriejo

I'm long gold and making money.....and will be staying long. When the Fed raises rates I'll short stocks and maybe short gold.

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4:18 pm, Nov 23, 2009

sophia5

" Wall Street executives tell Charlie Gasparino
they believe the market's surge is irrational,
fueled by traders' twisted affection for high unemployment. "

" Business conditions are uniformly lousy,
but the markets are surging because they
are celebrating the government's solution
to high unemployment: easy money. "

" Easy money " provided on the backs of
hard working Americans who will paying off
this " LOAN " for generations ?

Do we need any more proof that
Wall Street is anti-American Worker ?

Can't wait to give incompetent
sniveling Wall Street runts another bailout.

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9:52 am, Nov 23, 2009

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n--Y--bbrown13
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12:30 pm, Nov 23, 2009

theserex

RIGHT ON! bbrown13! The Messiah Elect has put our economy on a crutch that will last at least 30 years in a scramble to save the economy, but really to pick up votes... Not to mention, he threw away 200 years of bond history and set a precedent comparable to a Socialist dictatorship when he and his cohorts decided not to issue payments to the holders of GM bonds! Like you never existed! Talk about screwing the American people. Wall Street is filled with boy-scouts compared to that!

Yet we never hear about it...

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3:23 pm, Nov 23, 2009

gak001

Ben Bernanke? I like the guy, but I wouldn't really consider him my hero.

Do you two even know how the Fed works? It's independent precisely so that it can't be influenced by politicians - that would create a real economic problem.

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6:22 pm, Nov 23, 2009

sphi300

As recent events have demonstrated, no group is more 'entitled' than the Wall Street crowd.

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11:38 am, Nov 23, 2009

AlanD2

Would you expect anything different, sphi300? These are almost all staunch Republicans, and they have lobbied heavily, spending hundreds of millions of dollars.

They certainly want results from this investment!

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12:04 pm, Nov 23, 2009

carriejo

Goldman Sach was the second largest contributor to Obama, they are hardly republicans. They collect on their investment with $25bb that was paid to them by AIG with taxpayer money so yes you do get what you pay for.......Change is the only thing we will have left in our pocket after Obama's Tax and Spend policies.

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4:24 pm, Nov 23, 2009

AlanD2

Corporations always make big campaign contributions to the person they think is likely to be in power, carriejo.

Bush got his fair share in 2000 and 2004. And Goldman Sachs certainly got their money's worth from the Bush administration.

By the way, you seem to have forgotten that Bush's Borrow and Spend policies added $5 trillion to our national debt. So much for conservative fiscal responsibility. Or is Bush just another RINO these days?

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12:43 pm, Nov 24, 2009

jus1drun

extreme sentiments in any direction are wild@ssed guesses. but hopefully anyone who thinks this fragile economy is on a clear path to recovery nevertheless is proceeding with caution. at the national level we are bogged down in a health reform debate when it would be more prudent to be concerned with the nation's economic health first and foremost. we take it for granted we will make it out of this in good time and therefore concern ourselves with other issues we believe to be important.

i wish that ultimately the optimists were right, the pessimists were wrong and the realists were running the show.

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11:40 am, Nov 23, 2009

AlanD2

I think Obama qualifies as a realist, jus1drun.

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12:05 pm, Nov 23, 2009

jus1drun

we'll have to agree to disagree

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1:28 pm, Nov 23, 2009

oliverckerr

Bubble bubble foil and trubble

michaelslevinson.com

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11:53 am, Nov 23, 2009

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12:27 pm, Nov 23, 2009

gunapie

The house of cards is not a USA deck - it is global. Time to read up on the Progressive Utilization Theory (PROUT) and become foward looking with universal eyes. "we are not alone or helpless -----"

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1:31 pm, Nov 23, 2009

neverlate

There are a lot of dollars out there and they have to go somewhere. Everyone's pillow is starting to get a little stuffy.

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2:46 pm, Nov 23, 2009

thecommissariat

The only small bubbles I have noticed are in residential property - in Hong Kong and several major Chinese cities.
As I lack the facilities to participate in these bubbles, I will just have to wait for bigger bubbles - in emerging market equities, commodity shares, and physical commodities - to enjoy.

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5:49 pm, Nov 23, 2009

margonaut

The stock market is going up on the strength of the earning reports and projected earnings. Stock market is generally the reflection of the confidence of the investment community in the economy.

To be sure, there are two bubbles that are now developing. One is an over-devaluation of the Dollar and the other is the astronomical increase in gold prices.

With the first indication of unemployment rate decrease and budget deficit shrinkage due to expanded tax base in a growing economy, the gold bugs and currency speculators will be running for the border.

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9:18 pm, Nov 23, 2009

valwayne

What's going on is triillions upon triillions in borrowed and printed money. The smart money sees dollars being printed by the billions and knows they are worth less and less. The stock market is benefiting because interest rates are at 0 or near 0 and there are trillions of printed dollars floating around. The only place for the money to go is the stock market. But what happens when everyone begins to realize that over 10,000 on the Dow with worthless printed easy money actually represents 3000 on the Dow before Obama destroyed the value of our currency? What indeed will happen?

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9:35 pm, Nov 24, 2009
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