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In California, ground zero for support of government’s role in saving the planet, Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina are betting on a climate change backlash in 2010.
Could a political backlash against climate change legislation develop in, of all places, California?
Two wealthy, first-time political candidates in 2010 statewide races—eBay chief-turned-gubernatorial contender Meg Whitman and Hewlett Packard CEO-turned-U.S. Senate challenger Carly Fiorina—are betting on it.
Whitman is showcasing a promise to put a one-year moratorium on regulations stemming from a landmark 2006 law, strongly backed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that requires the state to roll back greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by 2020. Fiorina has been hammering federal cap-and-trade legislation sponsored by the incumbent she’s challenging, U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer.
The reaction of most of California’s political establishment to the Whitman-Fiorina strategy? They’re nuts.
In this, the politically ambitious Silicon Valley Republicans are making perhaps the biggest, most consequential political gamble of anyone in the country.
Conventional wisdom says the Golden State is far too green for such a strategy to work. Big majorities of California voters—be they Democrats, independents, or Republicans—have long favored aggressive government intervention to save the planet, including tough mandates on carbon emissions and renewable energy mandates. AB 32, the law Whitman wants to suspend, is nearly as popular as free cerveza.
But Whitman, Fiorina and the strategists advising them are wagering that the recession and job loss in the state are deep enough (the 12.5 percent unemployment rate, a post-war record, is among the highest in the country) to unsettle public opinion here. For the next few years, they argue, even California’s green-minded voters will be more interested in economic repair than anything else.
If voters agree with this assessment, next year’s contests for governor and senator California could be seen as a moment when the political winds on climate change shifted, turning the debate away from the broad question of whether climate change is a threat and towards more nettlesome controversies over the costs of doing something about it.
“The economy has catapulted jobs to the top of the political issue food chain,” says Rob Stutzman, a leading Republican strategist here who previously worked for Schwarzenegger and now advises Whitman. “The intensity of support for new environmental fees and taxes is waning in the face of the real human toll this recession is having.”
The reaction of most of California’s political establishment to the Whitman-Fiorina strategy? It’s nuts.
The policy objections—that Whitman and Fiorina are offering a false choice, and that environmental regulation and economic growth can go together—are strong. But the political objections to this strategy have been even stronger, with Whitman and Fiorina’s push against climate legislation widely dismissed as a foolish mistake by political rookies.
Whitman, who has been running since February (Fiorina only became a candidate this fall), has taken the brunt of the criticism. Veteran journalists Jerry Roberts and Phil Trounstine called the ex-eBay chief’s turn on AB 32 “pretty dumb political strategy” that must have been suggested by “some highly-paid, airhead adviser.” Democrats predictably piled on, and even Schwarzenegger took a shot at his fellow Republican, suggesting Whitman’s stance was merely political posturing. “I’m sure she doesn’t want to be counted as one of those Republicans who would move us back to the Stone Age,” the governor said.
These critics inevitably cite polling on environmental issues. A survey released this summer by the Public Policy Institute of California found that three in four California voters believe that climate change poses a serious threat to the state’s economy and quality of life. But surveys, when examined more closely, suggest that Whitman and Fiorina’s strategy, whatever its merits or defects as policy, may have some chance of succeeding politically.
The same PPIC survey that shows Californians taking climate change seriously also shows that Californians are increasingly divided on specific actions to tackle the problem. Support for AB 32 has declined 12 points since the recession began (though the support still remains high at 66 percent). Residents are nearly evenly divided on a carbon tax and the cap-and-trade legislation that has been a target of Fiorina.







jezter54
As a Californian conservative I applaud this stance and hope that it marks a turning point in public opinion. Can't wait for 2010 elections to see if I am right!
Dreamer4Ever
Yeah! Californian's love the "f- the planet!" platform!
It's genius!
Glenda1976
Cali is broke, jobs are leaving to next door Nevada, not to mention the IOUS. It might be time for the pols there to try a different approach, but this one ain't working.
DakLak
Two corporate has beens trying to climb aboard the electoral gravy train.
Carly Fiorina ruined HP (Hewlett Packard) and we certainly don't need any more demonstrations of her 'talents'.
Has anyone got a paper bag to cover Carly Fiorina's face? She's curdling my breakfast milk.
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prthatrocks
...and making my fingers go limp too.
edomejn
We need more diversity in politics but not these two women.
Carly destroyed HP and Compaq with her insistence on a merger. Then when fired she got a huge bonus.
Meg ruined ebay for many sellers by her constant fee increases rather than developing a strategy to increase revenue by bringing in customers she increased fees(Taxes if she was in government) then overpaid for a Luxembourg phone company with the extra funds.
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jjsim1965
I would prefer anyone but Boxer. Anyone. Well wait, I once said I would prefer anyone to Hilary. We know how that went.
Don't know much about these two gals, but agree with what I have heard. Will keep listening.
Glad so see some conservatives in California. I knew they were out there, it is just that the liberals are louder.
SweetVirginia
Even with a Republican governor, a state as traditionally democratic, not to mention green, such as California does not switch overnight. However, I hope these campaigns will serve as a wake up call to Democrats who have squandered the political advantage they won in 2008. The party needs to learn how to relate to the American public beyond the election... All poetry and no prose.
prthatrocks
Dumb it down for all of the 'Joe the Plumbers' and Sarah Palin sycophants and send out a few more stimulus rebate checks for $300? Great plan. That should have it all fixed in not time...
SweetVirginia
Wow... where is any of my comment did I mention 'dumbing it down' and handing out stimulus checks? I think someone's projecting...
djanimaequeen
I doubt Californians will be receptive to any republican after Arnie's handywork green backlash or no. We can never get a budget passed on time because of them. If the name on the ballot has an R next to it, I sure as hell won't be checking it.
jus1drun
cal's problem is one party control so govt walks in lockstep on increased expenditures. that walk has been straight into the toilet - we were hit significantly harder than most states by the downturn.
i'll vote for the repubs this time just to mix it up. it's not good to give any political party the impression they get a free hand in running things.
JLF1200
I think that's rather simpleminded.
California's most recent problem had to do with the Dems trying to fund all kinds of crazy shit, and the Repub minority blocking any new taxes by leveraging our stupid 2/3 majority requirement.
The CA GOP is just as dumb if not dumber. They think the fact that jobs leave to completely filthy places with zero regulations is a sign that we should emulate Nevada or Utah. Newsflash: those places are garbage pits and they don't care about their air, land or water.
I'm not saying CA would be better off with either party in full control, but we've basically been stuck at a permanent impasse due to our constitution. Even Schwartzy said it needs to be changed.
reardongalt
California proves the old saying about Politicians:
"There are some bad Republicans, but there are no good Democrats."
California stands as a shining example of Democrat rule. That's where the Country is headed (i.e., to ruin) if we don't vote these fools out soon.
ectoendomezo
Is Arnold a Democrat? Weird..I though he was a Repugnican...Hunh? Weird..
yeah...Keep on IGNORING ALL EVIDENCE...its worked for the Repugnican party so far...
Like.."Less Intrusive Government"..Ummm..if THAT'S yer mantra..WHYa re yo all so...OBSESSED..with the Sex Lives of others..?..Why is that? And..by the way..it doesn't GET..any MORE..'INTRUSIVE'...for the record..
Look..the basic undeniable FACT..is this:
Republicans..Conservatives..neoCons..all adhere to the SAME general 'Rule':
IGNORE ALL EVIDENCE!
SEE...THEY ARE INTO PETTY POWER TRIPS..ROAD RAGE POLITICS...LIKE THAT TAILGATER..OR THAT RUDE FOOL ON HIS CEL PHONE..THEY ENJOY..SEEK OUT...CREATE...PETTY POWER STRUGGLES...
SEE...ONE CAN 'WIN' A GREAT MANY "SMALL CONTESTS OF WILL" BY SIMPLY..IGNORING...ALL..EVIDENCE! SMART PEOPLE..WILL SIMPLY GIVE UP...YOU CANNOT 'DEBATE' SOMEONE THAT REFUSES TO ACCEPT ANYTHING COUNTER TO THEIR OWN AGENDA...
AND 'REPUGNICAN POLITICS' IS ALL..ABOUT PERSONAL AGENDA'S...POWER..MONEY...CONTROL..AND AT THIS POINT...THE POLITICS OF OBSTRUCTION AND RAGE..OF HATE AND FEAR....THIS IS THEIR "VALUES" SYSTEM...
So...its pointless..it really is...and its too bad...because there is NO possible 'Progress" with these individuals..they HAVE to maintain the FIGHTING..because that is the ONLY thing they have LEFT that provides the DISTRACTION they require...without ATTACK...they have only the TRUTH...whcih if they ACKNOWLEDGE...then they 'LOSE'..and then they might actually have to CHANGE THEIR WORLD VIEW...and that..agian..is what they FEAR the MOST...
Nope! The Repugs are a STUPID...EVIL...OBSTRUCTIONIST HIVE-MIND...they CANNOT..and WILL NOT..accept CHANGE...and thus..they DOOM US ALL!
SARAH PALIN! need I say MORE?
jus1drun
ecto
please don't lose your meds again.
reardongalt
Add to their strategy the fact that Global Warming is a Hoax and a Fraud, and I think they have a strategy that can win.
Oh yeah, and Barbara Boxer is a loony toon. In the old days, she would have been happy if she made it to Bra Saleslady at Macy's.
JLF1200
Troll.
ImNoPUNK
hey reardongalt.....
Granted "Barbara Boxer" and the term "big boob" are synonymous... but even Macy's wouldn't hire her to wait on their customers.
tarryh
Now what this article is saying is that they have found a "political wedge" they think might work. When you stop and think about it for a sec, is that what we want.... more politicians who will do whatever it takes to get elected and to stay in office. Don't we want people who believe in what they say? Not what consultants tell them will get votes. I do not know about Whitman, but I have listened to Fiorina many times. She is a crappy public speaker and usually gets flustered if pressed too hard on an issue. Boxer will eat her lunch.
Patco13
Business people can never govern well because they think that running government should be be tha same as running a business and it never is. They do acquire the ego's howeverr that allows them to spend their fortunes in that vain attempt. The green revolution is here and Meg can't stop it and Fiorina has a lot of skeletons in here closet regarding her past business deals. We may get a GOP govenor in Califormia but it isn't going to be one of these two.
ectoendomezo
Just MORE...insanity...and..TRUE-BELIEVERISM..from the..."Republicans"!
The Repugs in this current incarnation..of...almost sociopathic..and certainly psychotic..."VALUES"...remind me of Hitler thinking its a GOOD IDEA to Invade Russia In The Winter! I fervantly hope..that LIKE Adolph..they TOO..and their FANATIC FOLLOWERS..will be freezing to death in the snow outside Leningrad...figuratively speaking of course...
Delusional...that is the ONLY way to define this 'Approach" this.."Policy"...DELUSIONAL!
Its as if..their..RAGE..and...VICIOUS HYPOCRISY...and its resulting APPOPLEXIA...has caused a "Brain Bleed"..and they are actually..in a kind of..SEMI-CONSCIOUS STATE...the HIVE MIND is...experiencing a kind of...SUFFOCATION...
The "Values" they espouse are BEYOND HYPOCRISY...again..a kind of DELUSIONAL system of "Talking Points" and SPIN...is ALL they have to offer...
Like their NON-BUDGET-BUDGET..the infamous 12 page "Alternative"...
Or take thier oft shrieked whheze.."LESS INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT"..which..somehow..overlooks their...INTENSE INTEREST in the SEX LIVES OF OTHER ADULTS...even the 'Romantic Relationships'...aka MARRIAGE...Hey..TELLING...actually..via 'Legislation" FORCING..Others..to OBEY YOUR IDEAS OF MARRIAGE..well...hey..REPUBLICANS! IT DOESN'T GET..ANY MORE "INTRUSIVE" THAN THAT!.. To say nothing of a Womans RIGHT to her own...fer cryin out loud....BODY..and REPRODUCTIVE CHOICES!
Finally..the simple..plain..REALITY..is this: THE REPUGS..CANNOT..IN ANY WAY...BY ANY MEANS...'WIN" THE "CULTURE WAR"..ITS OVER! WE ARE NEVER GOING BACK TO THE CREEPY 1950'S FAUX 'VALUES' THEY SEEM TO PRETEND TO WANT...IT CANNOT HAPPEN...IT ACTUALLY...CANNOT...HAPPEN! SO..UNLESS THEY COME UP WITH A VASTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH TO 'SOCIAL POLICY'...REGARDING GAY'S...RELIGION...ABORTION...DRUGS...IMMIGRATION....THEY SIMPLY..CANNOT 'WIN'! NOT IN A 'MAJOR' WAY..ONLY A 'HERE AND THERE' VICTORY...
So....Repugs...go ahead..continue to believe that "Red States" are the temples of morality..even though they are statistically the TOP 10 in almost EVERY category of "SIN"...go for it! Continue to believe in Sarah-Ol Glory Hole-Palin...sure...SHE'LL save you!
Keep Sawing..the limb your on is resiliant....but..give it time...
iamone3
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MissSpanky
Anyone but Barbara Boxer - there should be term limits on her. She has outlived her usefulness - California is not the better for her antics. As for governor Meg Whitman has a good chance especially if she runs against Jerry Brown who is very very old in his 70's & even more strange than he was in the 60/70's. Los Angeles' mayor would be a shoo-in but so far he says he's not running. He might change his mind.
Dreamer4Ever
That settles it. I'll be donating both money and time to Barbara Boxer's campaign. We need her now more then ever.
mrbadexample
I would think that Californians, having seen the problems with the Governator, would've sworn off the idea of promoting millionaire dilettantes with no experience to high positions in government. Giving one of the most important federal offices in the state to someone who's never been in any sort of legislative body--doesn't that sound, well, stupid?
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