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by John Avlon
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Not a week after Scott Brown’s stunning Senate victory, the overheated praise is dissolving into accusations that he’s a Republican in Name Only. John Avlon on the out-of-control RINO-hunting impulse. Avlon is the author of Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America.
From savior to heretic in one week—well, that was fast.
Some conservative activists are already taking aim at Massachusetts Senator-elect Scott Brown by calling him a RINO, or Republican in Name Only.
With Martha Coakley out of the way, they’ve belatedly discovered that Brown is (gasp) pro-choice. It’s an accusation that was always hiding in plain sight. A glance at his campaign Web site revealed that Brown believed “this decision should ultimately be made by a woman in consultation with her doctor.” It’s not that he was ever going to be on NARAL’s Christmas card list; he opposes partial-birth abortion and supports parental notification. But like a libertarian, or a centrist Republican, he believes that government shouldn’t ultimately make this most difficult personal decision for a woman outside reasonable restrictions.
Brown is “absolutely a RINO,” Wiley Drake said. “He’s learned how to talk Republican-ese, but he’s just not a staunch conservative.”
A closer look at Brown’s record reveals other positions that could be considered conservative apostasy. While he personally supports only civil unions, as President Obama does, he considers Massachusetts’ court decision on gay marriage a settled matter for the state. In an editorial board meeting with the Boston Herald, Brown said he would have voted to confirm Justice Sonia Sotomayor. He voted for then-Gov. Mitt Romney’s health-care plan, with its individual mandate. He’s described his political philosophy in classic centrist terms: “fiscally conservative and socially conscious.” That’s perfectly in tune with the Massachusetts independents, who put him in office, voting for him by a 61 percent margin.
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But Brown’s political philosophy is precisely the problem for the self-appointed sentinels of conservatism. Alan Keyes was predictably quick to condemn the senator-elect from his wingnut pulpit on WorldNetDaily, writing: “He is a typical RINO (Republican-in-name-only) who…embraces the substance of Obama’s socialist agenda, but ‘opposes’ Obama by criticizing his implementation of socialism… [he] agrees in principle with the Democrats on the fundamental issues of justice and morality but employs the deceptive rhetoric of personal opinion to evade the questions of public law and policy they involve. Such issues include child-murder and other abrogations of the unalienable right to life, as well as the rejection of the God-endowed rights of the natural family.”
Keyes is joined by former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, who called Brown’s position on abortion “confused,” while Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry was typically less subtle, saying: “We need to replace Scott Brown as soon as we can with a true defender of babies’ lives, not a phony who supports their murder.”
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• John Avlon: Red Vs. Blue Is Over But secondhand statements sometimes lose their punch in a laundry-list sort of way—they can be vulnerable to accusations of taking words out of context. So I decided to call Pastor Wiley Drake, Alan Keyes’ VP nominee in 2008 on the America’s Independent Party ticket, which garnered 41,000 votes nationwide. Many first heard of Drake last summer, when the former second vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention announced that he was praying for the death of “the usurper that is in the White House…B. Hussein Obama.”
I’d ventured out to Drake’s parish in Orange County, California, to profile him for my new book, Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America, but hadn’t spoken with him since we spent two hours talking in the pews of his church a few months back. The grandfather of five was happy, as always, to share his views on Scott Brown and the rest of those he deems Republicans in Name Only.
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FarLeftFist
Conservatives are a cancer to American exceptionalism.
newswoman
Very right conservatives are like the Chinese totalitarian government. Everyone must toe a certain line or out they go, sometimes to prison. They aren't living in the real world if they think everyone thinks the same on every subject. Everyone has different influences in his/her life and that makes him/her feel differently about a subject. You might feel differently on healthcare reform if you have a handicapped child or sibling or someone with a pre-existing condition.
And abortion is not a subject for people who are not involved, to make a decision about. Conservatives are so against government intervention in our lives....except abortion. I'm sorry, but they can't have it both ways.
Jaygim
Your argument almost sounds persuasive until you make a faulty comparison to the "Chinese totalitarian government," who by the way no one would accuse of being ardent pro-lifers. In fact, they're quite the opposite: family planning, one-child only (males, preferred), etc. So, if conservatives are like the Chinese govt, wouldn't they be ardent family-planners -- uh, pro abortionists? No, instead they're trying to persuade the fed govt to do the opposite.
wareagle82
Speaking of wanting it both ways, newswoman -
very left liberals are somehow NOT totalitarian? By teh way, the Chinese are the very definition the far left. Tell me, when was the last time a pro-life Dem got very far nationally? How many believe that water boarding is NOT torture?
AlanD2
The Chinese are far left, wareagle82?
China is a totalitarian dictatorship, achieving what George W. Bush and Dick Cheney only dreamed of.
wareagle82
yes, alan, I'll type slowly so you get it. The chinese are communists, historically noted as a left wing form of govt. The state controls the medis and most corporations, and no matter how much you think Bush/Cheney may have wished it, they did not as evidenced by the vocal criticism levied against them. They didn't try to take over private companies, either; GM and Chrysler didn't become wards of the state until Obama.
SamWinston
I would not had brought the Chinese govrnment into your argument. On the same note, I will not begrudge you for doing so.
I do not support abortion as a means to "birth control." However, I do support it is the woman's choice to make the ultimate decision. And the decision to be made under her roof and not the roof of others.
Perhaps the pro lifers need to focus more on those who have repeated abortions and advocate for the tying of tubes or vasectomies on the irresponsible who very well may be coined as "baby killers." Although it is not a term I wish to use. One abortion is one thing, multiple abortions is another and can be linked to the lack of regard for life in general.
The government has no business poking their noses into these kind of decisions, just as it is no one elses business who is not directly involved. Those who do, reall have control issues and most likely lack being able to control what occurs under their own roof, thus resulting to attempt to control others.
As far as the health care reform, the govt needs to butt out of that arena as well, as I am not responsible for others health care, and if a young person (or any person regardless of age) who is in good health, has the right under our Constitution to decide if they want to purchase healt care insurance. Insurance companies should be able to compete for the business.
I do not believe any insurance company should be allowed to deny anyone coverage for a pre-existing condition. We are a country of compassion and it is time, to show our own citizens some of that compassion. It needs to be evaluated on a individual basis with a sliding scale of reasonable affordability.
We also need to eliminate any illegal alien regardless what country they come from, as they come from 32 different countries and not all babies of illegal aliens get that anchor baby citizenship. Only the ones from Mexico do and they are the high costing factors to our economy in regards to health care. They go to our emergency rooms as payment is not expected up front like it is in a dr's office. You and I pay for their childs sold/flu symptoms or runny noses at the price of "emergency services." And, it is our local hospitals that are giving those anchor babies citizenship, the moment they complete their birth certificates to be filed with the Social Security Administration. They do not meet the criteria for the 14th Ammendment as they were not born to those who were brought here againt their will or those who fleed their country seeking assylum out of fear of being persecuted for their religious or political beliefs. They came here on their own free will and entered Our Country illegally and are reaping our rights, privilages and are prospering at our expense, while Americans are losing jobs to the illegal aliens and foreign visa holders of which, when their visa expire, they remain and become illegal immigrants working the jobs that our college educated kids should be getting at a fair wage as opposed to the foreigner lowering those wages as well.
Napolis
wareagle82 (Auburn? if so, fellow Tiger here) --
China is communist in name only. Since the time of Deng Xioaping they have transitioned more and more towards a state-controlled capitalist economy. This explains why so many American companies want to do business there and have actually complained about official government protests of human rights abuses in China. The car industry has been placed under government control but that doesn't mean it's directly calling the shots on what the industry produces, or that the control will be permanent.
Monk66
Sam, you don't support gov't getting involved in healthcare but you do want a law that says they shouldn't be able to deny people healthcare?
Pick one.
doug-c
SamWinston makes some great points.
And state controlled capitalism is exactly what the US economy needs. We all now know that uncontrolled capitalism does not work.
Mauiboy
Look at political parties as a wheel and not a line from left to right. As some point the far, far left and the far, far right will start to look a lot alike. At the opposite end of the spectrum from Centralist is Totalitarianism and both parties going in their respective direction will take them both to this extreme. At this point, which is actually getting there faster???
dana64
CORRECT Newswoman.
I think your comparing the conservatives to the Chines TOTALITARIAN GOV is very correct..................see how the GOP behaves
1- No one REPublican dared CRITICIZE BUSH
2- LOOK now NO REPUBLICAN dares say YES to OBAMA .
THEY HAVE TO OBEY. and say NO.
this is exactly what happens in CHINA
TOTAL OBEDIENCE is the sign of DICTATORIAL GOV.
dana64
BOY you started a deluge of objection to your comparison by just bringing in the Abortion issue..
but the problem occurs also by your first 3 words..........JUST say the RADICAL GOP are like the CHINESE totalir=tarian......look at how they keep all members OBEYING the leadership by saying NO .
Campbell62
Maybe Conservatives are against government intervention in the lives of unborn children!
Granite
Oh dear! Oh my! What if The Drone doesn't perform as expected!
If he starts to dovetail with the Obama admin, I will pee myself laughing.
Plus, if Santorum hates him, he must be okay.
Picachu
The post here by Jaygim is quintessential right wing sophistry. He tries to deconstruct and disprove the "argument" allegedly found in newswoman's post. For the most part she was stating her opinion, not making "an argument". She is using an analogy, comparing actions of the pro-take-your-freedoms-away people to the chinese government. Again this is a statement of her opinion, not an argument. However, Jaygim states that because she made a faulty comparison (his opinion) her argument is no longer valid. That is vapid poppycock. IF she had made an argument, and it was logically sound, the inclusion of one faulty comparison in her presentation would not invalidate every premise she had posited in her statement of the argument. This is the very essence of why the right wing is so full of bull shit - they simply don't know how to think, which is why they need people like Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck to think for them.
DeeAmbro
Oh my, the CHINOS (christians in name only) are mad at the RINOS. tsk, tsk, tsk!
dana64
I am so glad someone is talking about AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM.
Indeed the regressive movement since 1994 has ruined American exceptionalism.
Exceptional country cannot go back but must find new ways to advance civilization.
dana64
AVLON KEITH OLBERMANN is NOT a wing nut..........his style may sometimes be ODD but not his SUBSTANCE.
HE single handedly opposed the BUSH-CHENEY RULE when no one dared to.
Campbell62
Really, America has been one of the most exceptional nations on earth ever. Prosperous plus freedom, and if you look at who founded this country and wrote our constitution I think you will find a whole bunch of conservatives. Free people are exceptional, controlled people much less so.
menckenlite
Thank goodness we have sane rational people to guide us like Keith Olberman, Janine Garafolo, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, and the homosexual love brigade that calls everyone they don't like a tea bagger.
newswoman
Why can't you (Mencken) have a civil discourse? Jeanine Garafolo isn't an elected official, why bring her into this? She has a right to her opinion just like you.
We don't appreciate homophobia, either. Stick to the subject you want to talk about and leave the attacks behind. And by the way, the Tea Partiers called themselves that name (we didn't know what a Tea Bagger was so we didn't know it
was an insult). They had tea bags hanging from their hats, ergo, tea baggers.
clearthinker
Listen Katie, menckenlite isn't attacking any worse than your folks on the left so don't go personal on her/him. The Tea Partiers did not name themselves tea baggers, the press did. I always knew you were gay too Katie.
AlanD2
clearthinker: Sorry, but your spin won't fly.
An article in Salon.com by Alex Koppelman traced the controversy to a photograph by David Weigel posted on The Washington Independent website on February 27th, 2009, showing a protester holding a sign that read "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You!!" Weigel's report was referenced by bloggers, including Wonkette, who used "teabagging" or "teabagger" in their headline.
Perhaps this reality check will clear up your thinking.
clearthinker
oh, I'm sorry Alan. I forgot that salon.com is a legitimate news outfit. No, they aren't a left wing rag. Geez, why didn't you just give me the moveon.org talking points and I would surely believe you.
Alan, I know your familiar with what "tea bagging" is of which the tea party people are not speaking of. Would it be possible that the person with this sign was a plant from some idiot on salon.com? I know you believe whatever some lefty loon says, but are you using rationale here Alan?
The Tea Party movement, which is causing the left some problems by the way, stand for less government and standing by the constitution to make sure this administration is in check. However, you and other libs want to think the Tea Party people like hanging their balls over your mouth while you sleep.
I know you aren't able to use "clear thought" Alan because you are blind, but that is why I'm here....to clear it up for you.
Monk66
CT,
if fox news had the same story would you believe it?
pacifistgunslinger
If tea baggers had any brains they would be tea bagging in favor of decent and affordable health care, not against it. In fact, they're just tax whiners who think everything should be free, that it doesn't take taxes to run this country and the insane wars it likes to engage in.
SamWinston
PGS, I think you have it backwards with the "tea bagging." I think it is more like, Middle Class Americans are tired of picking up the tab for others. It is the working middle class that keeps This Country afloat.
Again, we simply do not need government ran health care. Our politicians are leading us into socialism/communism and they are trying to take away our rights to our freedom of choice.
It is all about personal responsibility. So, you may want to rethink your assumption that the middle class thinks things ought to be free for the taking. We happen to pay our dues and are quite frankly tired of paying for the irresponsible and for those who failed to secure any kind savings or retirement and now, as they are getting older, they realize their pittance of 7-10 thousand in saving, just is not going to cut it..
And, those who are tea bagging should not be made to feel guilty for what they have achieved during their course of being in the work force all their adult life. This Obama care is not what this country needs and they (the govt) made a huge issue out of it, while our unempoyment continues to rise.
Corporations and big companies also have a responsibility to their loyal employees who got them there in the first place. Why are people so quick to let many companies off the hook from providing benefit packages to their employees? And, I am not speaking of the small businesses that employ a small number of employees either. In the long run, it is the middle class that is left with flipping the bill. Well, I for one am tired of being forced to pick up the tab. Especially when I have been responsible, provided for my own and planned for their and my future/s.
Personal Responsibility comes to mind. And it is past time that we hold others personally responsible for providing for their own needs. Although Obama and his ilk believe money grows on trees, it simply does not.
Campbell62
Many of the tea party are very much in favor of affordable health care, but a 2,500 page bill is not about controlling costs it is about controlling us.
John Murphy
You mean like the sane and rational people who call anyone who disagrees with them "socialists", "communists", "Marxists", and who have no clue what "socialized medicine" really means (most Americans misuse it).
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jerichothedrifter
do you have anything constructive to add? or just a name dropper?
nortonclybourn
Mencken brewed through a horse is more like it.
RevPettibone
Mr Avalon...
You think too damn much for your own good.... you should liken either party's extreme to the end car on a train...... The caboose is small and cramped inside, usually the bumpiest ride and always the last to pull in to the station.
If other Tea Party groups across the country are anything like the ones in my state, then they're made up of diverse, inclusive and color blind people... with the group's conscience always trying to place principles before personalities....... And just as a footnote, on January 19, Tea Party groups around here were gathering in local bars and pubs to watch the Massachusetts election returns come in.... and nobody voiced an objection to the final results.
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sjcarl
The Republican party is becoming diverse? I'd like to see some statistics to back up that claim.
newswoman
Of course, Rev. The tea partiers are NOT diverse and color blind. We/ve seen their signs. And you are being funny, aren't you, when you say they are "trying to place principles before personalities??? HaHa.
unclelew
My gosh, newswoman and squareyellowpaper, you mean you didn't notice those hundreds and thousands of blacks, Asians and Latinos who attended the 2 million person rally in Washington? You have either teabagger myopia or a propensity for telling the truth.
Campbell62
Oh you have seen a few of the nutjob signs. But have you seen the ones that speak to their principles, they are the most numerous. Have you been to a tea party? If you are relying on MSNBC for your information you will think they all carry hateful signs, it is not true. The crowds are mannerly and care deeply about the direction of our nation.
elldeen
I would say that HALF of the Teabaggers are okay people who have real issues with our government. But the rest are trailer trash who can't stand the fact that we have the first black POTUS!
Campbell62
I have been to tea parties and have yet to meet anyone who is concerned with having a black president, it is the deficit, the corruption, the growth in big government that they are concerned about!
townsendinwi
Diverse? How - in size? Inclusive? How - origins in different countries of northern Europe? Color blind? How - not being able to differentiate among shades of white? teepartiers are what they are - racist, stupid bigots ! There is no argument against that one point!
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AlanD2
Sorry, Square. It is conservatives who are rejecting moderate Republicans, not Democrats.
The GOP "big tent" has become a "big umbrella".
clearthinker
Gosh, I hate to correct you again. I know you are obsessed with all things Republican, but it seems "clear" that voters in MA, NJ, and VA have had problems with that big tent the Democrats offer wouldn't you say Alan?
LanceL
I noticed this issue when Megan(sp?) McCain wrote about taking the Republican Purity Test.
Instead of 10 questions, it should be: You must be Anti-Choice, then agree with 8 of these 9 questions.
scott1607
My god, how many articles are you going to write with the moniker "wingnut" in them? I know you're pushing your book, but give it up for awhile! I'm half expecting to see some banner ads any day now for "Wingnuts!" -- a new snack food. Wingnuts wingnuts wingnuts!
AlanD2
When I read the signs in pictures of the tea party protests, Scott, I can't think of a better description of the people there than "wingnuts".
eurydice9276
People can label Brown however they want, but that's the kind of Republican we grow here in New England. The GOP can take it or leave it.
newswoman
Brown is the kind of Rep I remember and respect...and I am a Dem!
townsendinwi
You like palin, too? They were made with the same mold!
AlanD2
Rockefeller Republicans are no longer welcome in the GOP, eurydice9276.
Which is one of the reasons Republicans are no longer in power.
indieinva
My prediction is that the wingnuts will have their new puppet, er, Senator marching in goose step, er, lockstep with their rhetoric soon enough, New Englander or not.
Pro-choice is an epithet to the GOP politicians pandering to the religious right, no exceptions allowed.
jaruss
Oh no!!!!!! A RINO!!! Run, teabaggers, run for the hills!!!
The RINOs are gonna git ya!!!!
Similar to what Meghan McCain wrote about the other day, Brown fails the 'purity test' because he supports one of the most important individual freedoms of all, that of a human being to decide and exercise their reproductive rights.
People like Randall Terry and Alan Keyes don't support him, of course, because they are terrified to think that (gasp) A WOMAN (double gasp) can decide for herself whether she wants to bring another human being into this world.
Hilarious!! Almost as good as seeing that the teabaggers' convention is falling apart because they're charging like $600 bucks to get in and Sarah Palin wants $100,000 to come and tell everyone there that they're the 'real Americans'.
Real Americans and real Conservatives support the idea of individual rights and can confidently exercise those rights as they choose. Like not going to the bagger's ball.
Don't tread on me!
eclecticman1
There is nothing more bitter than a family feud and that is what we see brewing in the Republican party. The teabaggers are working to take the party over by getting their people in precinct jobs, the lowest of the low, but vital to a party. Once in control, they will start on a feeding frenzy dvouring anyone to their left, which means all moderate Republicans. In about two years, the GOP will be an all white, party of hate.
Sajwert
This may be a family feud, but too many families end up estranged from each other and even a death in the family doesn't bring them together again.
It is pathetic that with all the problems facing our country now, with a deficit and a health care system that are both going to tear us apart economically if something doesn't give soon, that abortion seems to be the ONLY AND MAJOR ISSUE of the Republican party.
It is as if they were all obsessed with some emotional/mental disorder that doesn't allow them to think or consider anything else as having any relative importance to this country's good.
I don't know what this Brown is like, and I'm living in a city just over the MA border, but it seems to me he would be considered a pretty darn conservative man in my state of NH.
clearthinker
yes, keep telling yourself that genius. How's that right hand doing eclecticman...need some lotion?
tumbleweed
It's hilarious to watch these fruitcakes call each other names and fight over who is the better Republican! None of them are a good Republican! The Republican Party I used to vote for 40 years ago would have laughed this bunch of lunatics off the stage! I don't recognize the old Republican Party in any way. Since the Reagan Revolution the whole party has been taken over by Christian hacks, hate filled vermin and extremists. It's gone in the toilet. That's why a lot of us just switched parties and started voting for the Democrats. We won't vote Republican again until they lose this bunch of jackals.
SamWinston
Well, it is the dems that are driving This Country into the ground, by wanting to give everything away, if you want to point fingers. Now, the repubs are by no means innocent of any wrong doing, mind you. They both are equally responsible and people need to stop towing the party line and look more at who is the best candidate to do the job with This Country's best interest in mind and start representing the American Citizens/Naturalized Citizens first and foremost.
It just never ceases to amaze me, how much people continue to point fingers and place blame as opposed to seeking solutions that is equitable to all concerned as opposed to the party line.
mcmchugh99
No, I think he's a 100%-er who ran as an indpendent to get elected. His true colors will show once he gets to Washington, and it won't do Republicans in the North any good once he does.
I also think he's an empty suit, a man without much substance, who would do or say anything to get elected.
Sajwert
@mcmchugh99 wrote: "I also think he's an empty suit, a man without much substance, who would do or say anything to get elected."
My lord, where have you been before today? That sentence fits about 90% of everyone in Congress and those who are running to get there and too many who have left it.
clearthinker
Every John Avlon article starts out with "wingnut". Mr. Avlon, you have become obsessed with this viewpoint. Please move on.
clearthinker
another thing, Avlon find some credible sources. Who is Wiley Drake?
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clearthinker
so, Wiley Drake was on liberal talker Alan Colmes show and because of that he is famous? Come on Connie, you can do better than this.
First, I saw this coming. Somewhere, somebody will come up with something bad to say about Scott Brown or the left media will do anything to vilify people on the right. So, this is how its done. Find some nut job who calls himself a Republican or tea party person ripping Scott Brown. This is the only defense people on the left have. Their ship is going down and they are going to show how ugly they really are all the way to the bottom.
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pjm23995
so is there a place for a moderate Republican? Brown ran as an "independent thinker," playing down his party affiliation. But what happens when the Proud Party of No gives him his marching orders?
darrelb
The Proud Party of No:
1. No huge new national health insurance entitlement.
2. No carbon tax to make liberals feel good about themselves.
3. No end to the secret ballot.
4. No trillion $ deficits.
5. No government owned car or insurance companies.
6. No civil trials for illegal enemy combatants.
I'm proud of the party of no.
unclelew
The Proud Party of No:
No new taxes to pay for two wars
No refusal to give the ultra rich huge tax cuts
No resistance to the use of torture
No problem with warrantless wiretaps
No problem with 46 million Americans without health care
No civil rights for anyone who isn't rich, and white
No mercy for the environment; after all, God gave it to conservatives to destry
dana64
I AGREE with UNCLELEW 's interpretation fo the party of NO
actually the FACTS he LISTED below in response to darrelb.
Campbell62
Me too!
townsendinwi
It's like saying : " I'm proud to be an idiot."
wareagle82
the man is from Massachusetts; I don't expect him to be a staunch conservative but he doesn't come off as a RINO, either. I could care less that he's pro-choice; there are pro-life Dems..is that party looking to root them out?
What is important is how he votes on the big picture items, not how well he satisfies the single-issue voter. Good grief, give the man a chance. Besides, did these nay-sayers actually listen to Brown's victory speech? Compare the nubmer of times he said independent (about 5-million) to the number of times he said Repub (was there even one?). His role is represent the interests of those who put him in office, not the inside-the-Beltway and inside baseball crowd that seems to forget that ALL politics is local.
dana64
WE SHALL SEE..................I will be bold and say I don't mind SLEEPING with SCOTT the pinup ..............but VOTING for him ??
No
THAT cannot happen.
townsendinwi
Careful, dana64. You're splitting hairs !
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