The Republicans have to decide to join the effort to improve the country, or go back to GOP Business as usual, do everything they can to destroy this democratic presidency, in their thirst for power. Obama has played his cards brilliantly. Either your for us, or your against us.

There's a major problem with the lead-in to the article"... the writer states that this meeting was part of a new White house plan to drive a wedge between fiscal conservatives and the Tea Party crowd."

Note to the author... the members of the "Tea Party crowd" ARE the fiscal conservatives! The current split in the GOP is between the fiscally conservative base that makes up the majority of the Tea Party crowd along with fiscal Dems and independents, and the moderate/RINO big spending GOP establishment in D.C.

ditto! thanks

But it piqued your interest, no?

camfield

Obama was just providing Lip service to small business. His Jobs bill will be a BIG FAT GOVERNMENT UNION 2nd STIMULOUS BILL.
There will be little tax cuts provided to sm businesses and HUGE provisions for Public Sector jobs which give this Government more control and more votes when election time comes...Most importantly More TAXES for the MIDDLE CLASS to pay for. I want to know why they cant use whats left of the last Porkulus Bill that didnt create jobs.

I agree with camfield very much, Cantor is the biggest two-faced the Republicans have, we all know for sure he will never agree with anything the President has to offer know matter how good it would be for the country, he want to be majority leader in the House and would do anything and everything to achieve that position, they will use paranoia even to divide this country more than it needs to be, I hope folks see into what the Republican leaders have for this country, they are just POWER mad.

Little Eric Cantor was among the first to pocket your tax payer dollars from the bailed out banks. Mrs Cantor, a bank executive, was employed by a TARP recipient. The GOP hasn't supported small business other than lip service for the past 30 years. You know those glorious Reagan years where the national debt was tripled and unemployment reached 10.8%. Voodoo economics didn't work. We were headed back into recession before Reagan left office.

"After months of being caricatured as a radical socialist doing secret backroom deals, this was his moment to puncture the bubble."

Any more "bubbles" in his back pocket ?

Seems the "civil exchange " was nothing more than an Obama illusion.
Disarm the opposition with the right hand as he slowly nudges them along
with the left hand ?

"tax cuts for small businesses"
Aren't Obama's intentions to
pass Healthcare and Cap & Trade which would seem to
negate any so-called "tax breaks," considering businesses
will be required to carry the heavy tax burden of Health and Cap,
for the benefit of Unions . . . the same Unions who were
"curiously" excluded from
the Cadillac Tax . . . in closed door meetings ?

It all seems like Progressive trickery.
Similar to the spending "Freeze."
"Saving" a "measly" billion(s?) from a budget
in the TRILLIONS ?
Like pissing in the Ocean.

He seems to be nothing more than
a died-in-the-wool Community Organizer Progressive,
deliberate and will not stray,
using smokescreens to give the appearance of compromise.

. . . and did he Study Constitutional Law to perhaps find ways
to circumvent it,
to potentially implement some form of a centralized dictatorial-like power grab,
appointing "Experts and Czars?"

Keep following the Alinsky Playbook.
Blend in . . . while keeping the eye on the prize . . .
. . . Redistributive . . . Economic and Social "Justice?"

Wow sophia5, do you trust anyone at all? Or do you really think that people use years out of their lives to plot elaborate ways to do you harm?

Deficit of trust indeed.

this title HELPS the REPUBLICANs ...........
but if the SUPPORTERS of the PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT STAY FIRED UP and become ,more FIRED UP/..........that will END the GOP happiness............
YES WE CAN ....................obama alone is powerless
so PROGRESSIVES this is UP TO YOU .........DEFEAT the GOP by just SUPPORTING the PREZ and THE DEMS.
call them show up stay FIRED UP !!

Deacon Dr Jones
I couldnt agree more President Obama has achieved more in one year that all other recent presidents 96% rating the next would be Bill Clinton with 93% then Regan with 86%. His agenda is agressive Health Care Reform,Financial Reform, Cap and Trade etc. What have the Republicans done? NOTHING! As we saw at the SOTU the Republicans sat on their hands when the POTUS called for ALL AMERICANS TO DO THEIR PART, they have proven to be in bed with Big Banks, Big Business and will continue to prove this.
The strategy has been clear and very effective. Make Americans mad with repeated rhetoric of fear and anger backed by a sophisticated campaign of disinformation.
If not for the following evidence this strategy would be dismissed as a conspiracy theory.
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/may/frank_luntzs_the_l.php

This link will bring you to a strategy developed by Frank Luntz Republican Polster and it has been the Blueprint we have all heard repeated again and again.
When you review the facts of the presidents accomplishments, the current mood of the country just does not match. This strategy to lie to Americans has proven to be extremely effective and is a sign of the way corporately influenced politics will be in America from this day forward.
This is the SMOKING GUN for the current battle over American voters. I fear this is just the beginning of a war the common American stands no chance of winning.
Unless we review and reveal this strategy for what it is we will loose all control over our political system. The Frank Luntz Strategy is an organized sophisticated effort to lie scare and anger Americans. Every American needs to review the facts and determine if they will allow this type of disinformation to continue.

The accomplishments of the first year are being ignored --try this:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122436116

johnwr3

Richard Wolfe is the Biggest @ss kisser I have ever seen, I dont know who is worse Matthews or him. They both make me sick. and who the hell watched those three last night? No one I know of..

They have to do something to prop this Loser up, they are running out of ideas, thats why they did that show last night, they need all three, because one of them dont even get enough ratings to matter.

And you don't even know how to link. "To whom are you talking, to whom?"
(Couldn't resist an old vaudeville line!)

Well, I certainly won't be trusting you!

ie: Bush/Cheney-weapons of mass destruction; Rice-PDB of August, 2011 was historical; McCain-need/don't need campaign reform; Palin-healthcare will include death panels; Grassley-government will pull the plug on grandma; Hatch-didn't have to pay for things (prescription drug benefit) back then; Guiliani (aka Mr. 9/11)-there was never a terrorist attack on Bush's watch; Republican Party-we care about Seniors and their Medicare (we just don't happen to ever vote in favor of it) and their biggest....we care about fiscal discipline after we blew federal surpluses for 8 years and nearly destroyed our economy! Johnnyappleseed - I could go on and on, but accept the fact that PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA SCHOOLED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY YESTERDAY by giving them facts and not talking points.

HOW come the LEFT and even CENTER LEFT are NOT HAPPY with OBAMA ???
come on do not TRY TO DEFINE HIM................he is a centrist and not an ideologue and acts as a pragmatist .
Health care is an issue that DEMS have always been for,
this has nothing to do with ideology,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is a HUMAN CONCERN.

You got it Johnny

korkie


They did show up and found the doors locked, MSNBC forgot to tell you that?
How convenient!

I guess there isn't room for some replies but this is for the ignoratn gameon who doesn't know "no" from "know" in his post below. He is indeed part of the party of "know-nothing"

Right on, Reefdancer. gameon and many other conservative posters here seem to have a tenuous grasp of the English language.

(All right, some liberal posters are in the same boat - but not as many.)

yuck!
i cannot believe that any of you could think that you are doing yourself or your interest (if one could figure out what they are beyond the denigration of everyone that disagrees with your very specific ideology) any favor by speaking in a public forum this way.
please try to remember that you are all Americans and the advancement of our country and then therefore ourselves individually is what we all share and in the celebration of that we can come together and discuss how to proceed. this us against them pull and tug instead of give and take is why independents have become a larger party than either of yours.

So which is it, gameon, your first post said they repubs were shut out of the meetings, your second said the only reason the doors were left open... talking out of both sides off your ass again? You're real tough online, like all your tea baggering compatriots. Ever wonder why they call you tea-baggers? You just want guyjoe to grow a pair so he can drag them across your chin!

rebekah: If you really believe that we "are all Americans and the advancement of our country and then therefore ourselves individually is what we all share and in the celebration of", then how do you explain the unanimous vote of Republicans in Congress against health care reform?

Somehow, I do not get the feeling that these Republicans are interested in helping the 45,000 uninsured Americans who are going to die this year because they cannot afford life-saving medical treatment.

I strongly suspect they are more interested in being reelected in 2010 (all House members, at least) than helping their constituents. Interestingly, the Americans who need help the most are largely found in red states.

Oh look out ,the english police are on patrol. Good luck correcting people on posts that were written in seconds, with no spell checking,but hey, whatever floats your boat. I know your fragile egos makes it necessary for you wimps to lash out at irrelevant topics but try to focus on the topic at hand.

And please stop projecting your Tea-Bag fantasies onto me.It's gross,not to mention aren't you dems. the party of sexual openness and homosexuality? In other words the "home of the tea-bag"? Aren't you being homophobic discussing your fellow dems. in such a derogatory manner? Why are you so hateful and hypocritical towards gays ? Typical liberal elitists.

And reader,i'm not just tough online,i'm tough offline as well,it's called being a "man". Your the only one thinking about putting balls in peoples mouths ,not me. It's called gay "projection".

P.S. Alan ,your little two-cents worth response is typical of the hit and run style of yours. I've broken you b.s. propaganda down before and i'll do it again if you would just stop running away. I actually look forward to making you look like the dunce you really are. if you would stick around long enough for me to do it.

alan

see that's what being a one-party ideolog will do to you...how can you jump from celebrating being an American individual to thinking i should hop on the healthcare train?
the democrats could have passed the healthcare bill the republicans couldn't have stopped them last year if they could have agreed to the terms they could have pushed it through...even yaw could accept the bill.
because it is flawed and does little to address the actual needs of those constituents that you claim to care so much about.
i don't believe a larger federal government welfare plan is what will benefit the people in need.
when you are a 2,3,4 generation welfare recipient who doesn't know anyone who works and depends on the government for everything you know the true meaning of hopelessness.
ever had government cheese alan?
it doesn't come close and neither does this healthcare plan and i'm not buying that it comes from a sincere desire to help the downtrodden anymore than i believe the ACLU is there to protect the rights and liberities of the masses.
perhaps they were born of those higher ambitions but, they are drowning in the liberal progressive agenda now.
just my individual opinion...i defend to the death your right to yours.
try to remember a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it all away.

I'm an independant rebekah. You really need to grow a thicker skin if you're going to engage in political debate.

gameon

thanks for the advice but, if by thick skinned you mean i need to learn to accept the lack of civil discourse and respect evidenced on these pages then no thanks.
i was taught to treat others as i wish to be treated and so far it's been a good plan for me.
generally speaking people who reduce themselves to name calling and disrespectful speech do so to cover a lack of information and manners i have no wish to join the entrenched on either side just to feel i've made a point strongly.
as long as these pages are open to the public format i feel no need to change my ideology or manner of speaking...to conform to an abbreviated sense of humanity just because the conversation happens online as opposed to face to face.
otherwise i think one would see far less of all the posturing.

gameon, thanks for your comments here. If we only had more posters like you, a Democratic victory in 2010 would be assured.

By the way, if you don't have a spell checker built into your browser, I suggest you get Firefox (free). It has saved me from a lot of embarrassing mistakes (like my original spelling of "embarassing").

rebekah, I was using health care reform as an example of how Republicans in Congress are not working in the best interests of their constituents and the American people.

By the way, why shouldn't you hop on the health care train? Are you okay with 45,000 uninsured Americans dying unnecessarily each year? And what about the millions of bankruptcies every year that result from medical expenses (even with people who have health insurance)?

If you are not for health care reform, you are not the kind of person with whom I would want to associate.

gameon said: "And reader,i'm not just tough online,i'm tough offline as well,it's called being a "man"."

Why do I get the feeling you are a gangly teenage wimp, gameon? In my 60 years of experience, self-confident men don't brag about their own prowess.

Alan, your sixty years old ? I'm amazed you haven't learned anything in such a long amount of time. A flower child from the 60's, of course. But hey,i'll keep trying to get through to you.

And just for your info. i'm a stone sculptor and Muay Thai fighter in my 30's. I wasn't bragging to reader,I was merely stating that his opinion of me is wrong and that his constantly bringing up "Tea-bagging " makes me question his sexual orientation,that's all. If you don't like being called a wimp then stop acting like one,that's my motto.. I don't like having to tell you people you're pathetic, but it's for your own good !

And how's it my problem that everytime you liberals hear "tea-party" you think about getting "tea-bagged" ? That's not the first thing I think about,I think about a nice cup of tea.Whereas you liberals think about testicles in your mouth. It's just sick . I wish you liberals would stop bringing it up,it's a bad visual.

And just in case you didn't KNOW, spell check is for wimps. Liv lyf ohn thee ej !

How pathetic, censoring posts that you guy's don't agree with. "Free speech for everyone ! Except the ones I disagree with." You are really lame.Really ,really ,lame.

Ya sure, and Obama's election had nothing to do with Bush,it was just because McCain was a weak candidate. If you keep living in this Far Left Fantasy you will never get anything accomplished, and in my opinion that's a good thing.

Brown ran against Obama's policies. He said "I will be the deciding vote against healtcare", he spoke out against lawyering up terrorists. If Democrats want to blind to that fact, that is good for the Republicans. I personally, don't think Obama is as blind as you. Look at his actions since Mass. A sudden conversion to fiscal responsibility, talking to Repubs, and soon a change of venue in the NYC terrorist trial. Just a coindence, I'm sure.

gameon,

McCain was a weak candidate, we voted for him because he was the last one standing. As for Obama the only reason he won is because the Market tanked right before the election,and Bush spent money like Obama is doing now... So I hope you see the writing on the wall, cause your Left wing Radical Progressive and his Comrades are done in November.

As the article pointed out, if Obama crosses the aisle to take positions that everybody can agree on, you know during this time of economic crisis, all he gets from the opposition is a big fat NO. The American people need to see this situation for what it is. The Republicans have decided that a solid NO is a political win for them. If they do the honorable thing and work with the Democrats, then they cannot demonize them when the next election comes up.

I spoke online with a guy from Massachusetts who consider him self an independent, and he said what turned him off was the Democratic candidate and the negative ads, so to him it was a local choice not a vote on Washington.

what's wrong with being against everything IF everything in the present agenda is wrong?

I read timeisnow"s reply to gameon and I realize this is dumb replying to dumber! When these guys aren't being fed their replys from Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, or Fox, etc. They can't even figure out they are both on the same side.

rebekah
When Obama tries to find common ground so we can solve our nation's very real problems, all he gets is a big NO so that people like you can say garbage like "what's wrong with being against everything IF everything in the present agenda is wrong?"

deacondrjones

it is the president's job as leader of this country to lead and that means finding the common ground and solving our nations problems.
i didn't run for public office so i only have to speak to my own views and opinions and they run contrary to the Presidents and make me applaud any who block his taking effect.

Hey bluevoice,I don't listen to any of the people you mention. So now what? I 'll discuss anything you like and i'll do it to your face. I wont bury an insult among other comments,know what I mean?

Hahaha. Palin taking questions!? That's rich. I don't think I could sit through it.

Palin holds no public office so why would she?

If you watched it on Fox, it WAS edited by cut-aways.

So Obama talked to Repub.s ,so what ? Do you want an award ? He should have been doing it from the beginning.

This palin obsession you have is pretty funny , totally irrelevant , but funny. Your grasping at straws ,trying to regain the HOPE you had about this politician, but it's all in vain.

You focus on a meaningless Q and A session and i'll enjoy seeing a Republican in TED KENNEDY'S SENATE SEAT !!! HA HA HA !!! November is coming,tick,tock,tick,tock.

gameon,
Please stand upo straight. that way people wont notice your knucles dragging the ground. Please come back when your IQ is higher than your age

Almost all congressional committee meetings on the health care bill were on C-span . I watched some of it (I also have a life) Did any of you see a Republican congressman thrown out of the room?

gingersnap-he won't be a great president,and I don't listen to talk radio,never have,where do you get your faux news?

No fear from this conservative. I think the televised back-and-forth was a good thing. Obama admin had repeatedly pushed the lie that Repubs were not advancing ideas, and in this exchange, when faced with named lists of legislation which Republicans had advanced, Obama was forced to backtrack on that claim. Just as he was forced to acknowledge his broken promises about "transparency" to bring in C-SPAN cameras instead of what he chose in doing back-room deals with union payoffs and bribery of Senators.

Having said that, this televised forum provides advantages for Obama, because he's a shameless liar and the Repubs were too polite and classy to respond forcefully. For example, Obama lectured the House Repubs on their inflamatory rhetoric against him and his policies, and I believe that charge stuck in Friday's question-and-answer session.. yet Obama himself is is particularly guilty of doing that.. http://ur.lc/fnm .. he's truly shameless.

In addition, Obama was able to successfully monopolize the speaking time.. taking 3X or 4X more time to answer than the Republicans took in asking. Nonetheless, it was a good exchange

Go take your meds.

Maybe ipod could come upwith a portable prompter,call it the eye prompter, the big "O" could really use it.

You obviously didn't watch it! And if you did and still think he was using a teleprompter to answer the questions then you are so brainwashed by right wing hate and failure that you believe propaganda more then feedback from your own eyes and ears.......This is very dangerous. But fairly common on the right, especially as evidenced by your fellow Tea baggers carrying around signs saying "keep the government out of my medicare"!!!!!!

nice job ignoring the post. That is exactly what I can't stand about Republicans (Sarah Palin being a prime example): you guys never actually answer the question or respond to the point as asked. You respond to some talking point that wasn't even brought up. He said there was no teleprompter at the the debate. Didn't you read that?

DeaconDrJones wrote: "That is exactly what I can't stand about Republicans (Sarah Palin being a prime example): you guys never actually answer the question or respond to the point as asked. You respond to some talking point that wasn't even brought up"

Now this is what I can't stand about Democrats, it's your dishonesty. Contrary to the Dem talking points, Sarah Palin responds to her detractors, often and in great detail. When Dems laughed at her characterization of bureaucratic panels making decisions on health care as "death panels", she gave a devastating detailed rebuttal complete with footnotes. http://ur.lc/6oh .

And there's much more. By any honest account Palin answers her critics.. and it's a dishonest leftwing Democrat tactic to claim otherwise

Lilli,blue ,,deacon; I read the post ,perhaps you should also. Maspring implies in his post that Obama commonly goes "toe to toe ,unscripted" with his opponents on a regular basis. I was merely reminding you that last week he needed a prompter to talk to elementary kids. He's not the great debater and orater you guys think he is. All he has to do is put a sentence together without the word "um" and you dems. get all weakkneed.

And just because I may support the GOP on a few issues doesn't mean that I walk around with blinders on in regards to their inadequacies and failings,I would recommend all you dems. who are into this Obama cult of personality to do the same.

You liberals are really starting to sound bitter and desperate. Keep up the bad work.

newz4i

Obama doesn't show up for the rest of America, he sure as hell doesn't show up for the Middle America, Where are all the Private Sector Jobs?

You are either a union worker or someone who is dependent on Obama Social programs for your existence to talk like that...

I'm in middle America and I see what Republicans do when you give them the reins. Obama has been trying to clean up the mess and people like you keep kicking him as he passes, his hands full of your crap!

timeisnow
I'm sure you wouldn't understand, but banding together for a common good and showing compassion for those are down are signs of wisdom and strength. Only a coward seeks to divide and conquer or kick a man when he is down.

Deacon,

There is no excuse for what the Republicans did when they had control, but the Democrats took over where they left off. They are both a Disgrace.
That's why the Tea Party Movement has developed and is growing by the day. We want the spending to stop, smaller government, balance the budget and they work for us not the party.

Banding together for the common good is great, until you notice it enables those who could make but are now so dependent they don't even try. Shame on you for helping enable those who can and don't. Banding together shows signs of love and compassion, in no way would I call it wisdome,or intelligence, because if those who believe that don't see what you are doing to these fine people shame on you.
Let me add, I am all for helping those who are disabled for any reason, too old, but anyone else there is no excuse for all these social programs, you are hurting these people forever.

Coward? you sir live up to your sobriquet...since that is simply loud nonsense that you have inherited because it lacks any knowledge.

Compromise is the name of the game in politics, sonofloud.

Your idea that a successful politician has to win everything or be a loser is one of the reasons conservatives are no longer in power.

re: rebakah

My point is that Obama does not negotiation, he surrenders.
And has for "nonsense", do you have a point or is it merely name calling?
I know that is one of the things that Obama apologists do best.

yeah right Alan lol, it has served Obama so well.

son of loud
i am not an apologist but, he is my president and i would defend him for that reason when someone calls him out of his name without substantive support and i disagree with your point, he is not a coward.
i didn't call you a name i broke down the name you called your self (since i don't think it's your given).

sonofloud

i have sympathy for your situation if you are pained by the attitude of neglect and the fact that you believed President Obama was going to ennact the changes you feel are necessary for homosexuals.
i really don't know what the answer is for that or how a country of 300 million plus untold numbers of illegals is going to solve that or our differences on abortion and immigration and all the others.
i think the most important thing is that we try and i think people hear you better when you try in a respectful manner...i know i do.
i tend to tune out the shrill and argumentative and preachy and obviously entrenched in one ideology or another.
he isn't a coward for not addressing your agenda it's just that your agenda isn't his agenda he just needed your voting block.

if someone from either party misrepresents the facts i would think the most important time to call them out would be in front of your family so that they know you stand for the truth.

rebekah

The only one who called him out, very respectfully I might add was Ryan, at the end, about the 85% increase in discretionary spending under Obama and Obama quickly told him I will talk to you about that later. When Obama responded at first he actually lied and said there was no increase, but Ryan who by the way is an up and coming R has got his finger on the numbers big time and Obama didn't want that revealed yesterday with the camera on.

Respectful? Only on the surface, and if you listened to the context of the questions which were simply posing for holy pictures for the uneducated, well then maybe they were.
BTW did you not think that factcheck was on this Q& A in a heartbeat? They sure were. And they called out DR.Tom Price big time and sustantiated more responses than not.

i agree timeisnow but, to anyone intelligent enough to have been interested enough to watch the whole discussion would realize that was one of the few exchanges in a point by point debate that the president lost by default.
i also agree that paul ryan is intelligent and interesting and i hope he remains where he is working hard for the republic for which he so securely stood.

rebekah
What did you think when Obama said he was a Centrist? Weren't you laughing? I have personally seen many videos where he admits he is a Progressive. How about when he said the R's were at all the discussions on Health Care? They were physically locked out of the rooms they were making the sausage in. How about when Obama said they plans the R's sent him on the Porkulus bill and pork filled budget were no good, without even discussing it with them and contacting them about them, so they could debate that.. It's been a year and he had majorities in both houses, and he didn't need them, and now he does. God works in mysterious ways, stopped them dead in their tracks. The whole thing was a sham and Obama is a liar. Obama is a lame duck president, out in 2012

time

no i don't think he's a Centrist i think he is a Progressive but, he was voted into the Presidency and so i think we all have to deal with what our political laziness has given us and i think we can do it in without denigrating others that don't agree with us including the President.
i was taught to treat others as i would like to be treated and that is with respect.
if you can't do that i don't think you represent your cause well.

rebekah

He lied on Friday he said he was a Centrist, that was only one lie, every answer was a lie. How do you respect a man let alone a President when he lies to your face, that insults the intellegenc of the people who elected him and now dont like him?

time

i respect the office of the presidency and the fact that in our republic he was sworn into that office and is the leader of our country for 4 years.

i don't trust politicians. i expect them to lie. i trust the system we use to have and i think it's worth fighting for and i will in my own way.

I'll bet you voted for Bush both times. We need to keep going back to Bush because he created all the problems Obama inheirited last year and has been dealing with. And speaking of Afghanistan which due to Bush's neglect and incompetence evolved into a much bigger threat, AFPAK, which now includes Pakistan's nuclear weapons under threat from AL Qaeda and the Taliban, which Bush allowed to grow stronger with your Republican support and John McCain's.
Just where has Obama failed.? He saved the world from a global financial collapse and a second great depression. Had McCain won, you'd be unemployed and standing in a breadline right now.

Actually, he'll join Buchanan.

I think you're probably right korkie. As close as I can call it; it should be Carter, Bush, Obama. abluevoice said Obama saved the world. Now that would be an accomplishment if it were true. But the fact is he has completed and closed the circle. There may be breadlines though. There is NO escape from what this man has created. Even as we argue on here the world is slowly pulling away from us. If you have a means you'd better protect it.

Unfortunately, I agree with you. I would be interested to hear why the Republicans will refuse to have the next meeting, that is if they show up for the next meet, televised.

Especially if you watch Fox News. Did you notice how Fox cut away from the retreat in mid-coverage?

I guess they didn't think their viewers could survive hearing the truth.

Aland-nice to know you watch fox news.

Every once in a while I need some light entertainment, yourmama.

I find Glenn Beck especially hilarious.

But I have to admit that heard about the mid-coverage cutaway on another network.

Yes but they have the tea baggers who do the work for them.

we must counter the tea parties in the streets............we waste time commenting on line....................we have NO VOICE ,NO SLOGANS ,NO TALKING POINTS
let's START on those...!! and do not forget to VOTE ,,,,,,,,,and check the DIEBOLD voting machines.

now that was funny...that is a retort.
if the republicans refuse to televise the next conversation/debate with the president he won't even have to show up to win.

I was just saying that Brown is pro-choice, gameon.

Which is why the teabaggers have RINOed him. (And Palin too - did you notice?)

aland2 i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are unaware that the term teabag does not apply to the tea party since i don't think many of them are conservative gays. that party is the log cabin conservatives.
i admit it's an assumption on my part but, i would think you're giving the tea party credit for more liberal feelings than i would think most of them would express.
and if it wasn't ignorance on your part...you're just a crude person with whom i wouldn't choose to discourse.

rebekah, the term "teabag" was applied to the Tea Party by members of the party who wore tea bags dangling from their caps. (I assume you have seen pictures of them.)

Unfortunately, they were quite unaware of its more obscure meaning.

Even more unfortunately, they (and you) are stuck with it.

And you don't have to look very far in DB threads to find equally pejorative terms (or worse) applied to liberals, Democrats, and Obama.

alan

thanks for letting me know that you were aware of your needless vulgarity and to you...
sticks and stones...i'm sure you are aware of the rest of the schoolyard retorts.
my sexual proclivities aren't up for public debate and the fact that you would insert them into the discussion only takes away from your point and debases you not me as i gather was your intention.

Clearly you have no knowledge or could care less about the independent entity FactCheck, let alone Liar Liar Pants on Fire because if you did, then you would not show yourself as so uniformed on separating your own fact from fiction.Not that the Dems are totally innocent either, but Obama did have alot more of his facts straight.

Gette
You are telling me I should go to two of the most Left Wing places to find the truth? You must be a Left Wing Progressive, for you to even say such a stupid thing. I assure you I am very informed, and didn't believe a dam thing that came out of his Bolshevik mouth. His words not mine...LOL

everything the liar-in-chief does is historic! we've never seen anything like this creep in our lives.

I hate to break this to you, Happymeal, but Fox News is undisputed liar-in-chief.

Hey Alan

I hate to break it to you, but One doesnt have to watch Fox News to know Obama is The Liar in Chief.

The fact that you dont tells me you are totally unenformed and will never know the truth as it really is. You must be one of the 10 people who still watch that Left Wing Radical Progressive Show...All pin heads

timeisnow: I may be "unenformed", but unlike most conservative posters here, I do know how to spell it.

Back to remedial English class, please.

So much for "We report, you decide." More like, "We decide, and you get with the program." Does anyone know what percentage of the population can be hypnotized?

to Mauiboy....

Hypnotized?...ohhhh wow, so that's what happened to you...

According to the last Obama election results 53%.

FOX news was the only network that showed the entire exchange except for CSPAN so stuff it!
not saying they don't have some idiots on there but, they are the closest thing we have to fair and balanced instead of state run like the entire MSM.

"Fox News' live coverage cut away from Obama-GOP Q&A but aired GOP "response" in its entirety. With twenty minutes remaining in President Obama's question and answer session with House Republicans at their retreat in Baltimore, Fox News cut to The Live Desk co-host Trace Gallagher who asserted that Obama was "at times being a little bit combative" and that "there was a little bit of lecturing there." By contrast, MSNBC and CNN aired the event in its entirety. Fox News subsequently aired all of the "Republican response" press conference held by House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-OH), Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN), and Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) after the question and answer session with Obama."

http://mediamatters.org/research/201001300007


rebekah,

I have noticed that you call the facts as you want them to be. But like the saying goes, "you are entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts." You are wrong in your post here, and that can actually be proven, although I don't doubt you'll find another way to skew reality so it fits your view.

But the fact is that Fox did cut away from coverage of this event and even if it's useless to point that out to you, I enjoy the chance to point it out to others. BTW, if you have the courage, you'll read the whole link I sent you to find that not only did Fox cut away from coverage of this event, they barely covered it at all.

Stella

I loved every minute of it, I loved for the first time Obama got real Hard Ball questions, he squirmed before he spewed his lies. That in its self made me happy to see him get nailed for a change. I loved it when Ryan, exposed him in a lie and the guy from Texas nailed him too. It was a pleasure to see.LOL

timeisnow,

Well, you certainly didn't "enjoy every minute of it" on Fox. Because they, unlike you, were very worried about how well the president was doing.

stella

fox may have cut away. i can't understand your heated interest in whether they did or not.
did i sit engaged with the tv through every second taking notes? no i did not.
i watched a tv program while talking on the phone, doing laundry and texting with a friend.
i am not a netroot.
i don't blog for a living.
i'm not invested in policy agendas beyond how they affect me, my family and friends and my country.
i don't wish the president ill because he is the president of my country but, i disagree with his policy and his agenda vehemently and although i have never been politically active i have recently realized i had better be because taking what i have for granted has gotten us where we are right now and i have no one but myself to blame for it.

stella

i wouldn't watch mediamatters for anyone and certainly not on the advice of someone who obviously has a vested interest in propaganda.

the president handled himself as one would expect ...very well. did he change my mind about anything ...no.

I wouldn't bet on that Rev Petete! Why did Fox not show the whole event. It's time to get off the sidelines.

For people that don't watch or hate fox news,they sure do know alot about it.

to wrightswrong...

I don't know, I don't work there..... besides CSPAN had it streaming ad infinitum along with MSNBC and the rest .... It just seems to me, if every other media outlet is running the Q&A in it's entirety, as a good business practice I would do the opposite by continuing to offer regular programing and collecting the revenue as a result..... remember, the majority of folks out there in the real world aren't addicted to this political banter like you and I.

No Pettibane, I don't have it "bad"...I've got it right!

korkie, korkie, korkie

So you are a Left Wing Radical Progressive , like Obama, and you do drink Champagne, well that explains everything. That's why those of us who also drink Champagne, love the Tea Party, Rush, Beck, O'Reilly, are kicking your butts, and have your fellow Progressives fighting their party and President and can't get a dam thing done, even with majorities in both houses. You need to take a look in your own back yard as it falls apart and don't you worry your little head and brain about ours.

Enough of ME,ME,ME. How about jobs, jobs, jobs!!!!

oooh timeisnow...please stop putting that white stuff up u nose, its blurring your ability to know fact from fiction

We seem to have a difference of opinion who's butts are being kicked.
We got the Stimulus/Recovery Billed passed. We pulled your buddies at the banks and insurance companies out the black hole they sunk themselves into. We manage to save all our automobile companies from going belly up. We extended unemployment and COBRA giving Americans a net beneath them.
And you know those two wars we've been fighting for years now. Well, we're put them into the budget, something your folks didn't think was necessary. We've , and in all these instances when I say we I mean this administration.
We signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act into law. We advanced US withdrawal from Iraq. We've successfully nominated Sonia Sotlmayor the the supreme court. Oh yes, and we've advance health care reform further than any other president. We have also order the release of torture memos. Most important, since your last President destroy our relationship not only with the Arab world but with most all International nations, we have taken steps towards resetting the tone of US relations with them.
Now let me get my 'what you have done' pad out. NOTHING. Wait, that's not true. As you mention soon after Barack Hussien Obama took office, you mission was to destroy this president and your brought in your top guns to try and do just that. Beck, Buchanan, O'Reilly, Rush, your right wing Christian fanatics, and my favorite, the Teabaggers. I think the entire lot have an IQ just hovering under 100.
What you have succeeded more than we would ever want to is establishing yourself as the party of hate, biogotry and just downright stupidity.
Yep .... You may have a lot to be proud of. It just all hidden behind your superficial, arrogant, disgustingly rude behavior towards the office of President solid white faces. Something no one is interesting in seeing.

guyjoentario

What you didn't know is he was lying with every answer, and yes he does do it with a great deal of finesse and quite nicely, that's part of his shtick, and that's how people like you believe him. His a master at it and we have figured it out over the year.

AlanD2 We must have been watching two differient shows. I watched a pompus narcissistic lying empty suit.who couldn't tolerate criticism trying to put a sentence together, since he was minus his life line{TELEPROMPTERS}

Alan

I Didn't see that at all, I saw Obama get hard ball questions and got annoyed and pissed off by them. You could tell since he had no control of what they were asking, he didn't like their straight forward questions, So he lied and squirmed and acted like a defiant little child, and proceeded with his lie for his answer.

Winnie and Time, you can spin all you want.

And Fox News will certainly agree with you. (Otherwise they would have to explain why they didn't carry the complete exchange.)

I doubt you will find many converts among our independents, though.

When all you have to do is vote "no", there is no need for Republicans to address the issues and discuss politics, ThinkAgain.

Which is why they don't.

Oh they do, your radar just can't pick up anything that's not a big boondoggle solution.

15 bills in 1 year LOL
You think that is alot ???

Yeah aland,that sure did create alot of jobs.

Well, you conservatives think that one health care reform bill would be way to much, sonofloud.

problem no jobs

solution scoop up every pissant liberal program waiting in the wings for the last 20 years, tie a ribbon on it and call it the stimulus and pass it in dead of night before anyone has a chance to see what's in it. Wow, that's legislating! Wow, that's transparency!

But but but it cost close to a trillion dollars so we must be the idea people!

Obamaland: up is down, right is left, and anyone who dares criticize Obama is a conservative.

Alan

Most of this is BS and not worth a dime to me or anyone. The rest of it was payback for getting elected, Unions,and Government Jobs, all Tax increses to me is all I see. Nothing for the Middle Class non Union, and non Government Jobs. Obama is a Marxist/Loves Big Government and control of his voters. Thats all I see when I look at that laundry list above.

yourmama, you're absolutely right (for a change). The Congressional Budget Office reports [11/7/2009] that the economic stimulus package is working, having created or saved 600,000 to 1.6 million jobs, and having added 1.2 to 3.2 points to our GDP growth. See this report at

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10682/11-30-ARRA.pdf

And the stimulus bill is just one of many. Perhaps ThinkAgain should think again (or for the first time, perhaps).

HEY that is impressive................He did it so fast that I forgot.
so the DEMS have done a LOT.
good for them.

Final Thought on the subject: The republicans invited Mr. Obama to their party..You can make your on decision on who looked better. But he was invited. Neither Pelosi nor Reid has "invited" the republicans to submit or present any input on these bills. Whether the president will read any of those inputs remains to be seen. But the package that was handed to him was full. Lets see what happens.

timeisnow,

Please tell me what the republicans have done in the last year. Please make your point with facts. Enlighten me as to why the Republicans do not deserve their "party of no" moniker. I would like you to include any substantive plans the republicans have offered---no need for great detail, just the broad sweep---on health care reform, the deficit, climate change, jobs, financial regulation, the eclipse of the middle class, the rot of Wall Street, you know, everything the president faces. Don't worry about writing too long a post. I'll read every word.


And crypto, please enlighten me as to why you have neglected to mention that the health care reform bill was greatly compromised to please the right.
Yeah, I know, that's going to be tough for you, because there's no amount of compromise that equals just not doing it at all, which is what you favor. But please spare me your sanctimonious bs about how the republicans weren't invited to the party. I'm so sick of this crappy victimhood role from a party that's played offense like their lives depended on winning----with little concern for what might be right for the average American citizen.

Pathetic. OBAMA BITCH-SLAPPED THEM ALL DOWN. FACE THE FACTS.

pathetic indeed PATHETIC JEALOUSY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the Repuvlicans are so stupid they have to be TAUGHT BY a FRANK LUTZ.............ane evey one of their questions was designed Ahead of time,,,,,,,,,,,parroting the Talking points we heard so many times,
the GOP is a DICTATORIAL party that EXPECTS OBEDIENCE from their members.....................UNITED they STAND

DEMS are divided and stand CONQUERED..........by the Republicans look at how BILL CLINTON had to do their bidding,
so is the DLC today with RAHM in the WHITE HOUSE.
so NO OBAMA is NOT A RADICAL IDEOLOGUE not even center LEFT . and as he said he is a CENTRIST.
the HEALTH CARE issue has nothing to do with LEFT ideology............it is a matter of HUMAN CONSCIENCE !!!