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by Lynn Forester de Rothschild
Lady de Rothschild is chief executive of E.L. Rothschild LLC, a private investment company. She is a director of the Estee Lauder Cos. and The Economist Newspaper Ltd.
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Obama’s shortcomings were eminently foreseeable, says one of McCain's most prominent Democratic backers. Lynn Forester de Rothschild on how the president's fake bipartisanship could never hide his true leftist agenda.
The failures of the Obama presidency were clearly telegraphed by the Obama candidacy. I hate to say it, but I told you so.
Back in September 2008, as a lifelong Democratic Party loyalist and activist, I backed John McCain; I told The New York Times, “I love my country more than my party.” Supporting a Republican was the last thing I expected to be doing in the fall of 2008. But I knew it was my only choice, given the decision by the Democratic Party establishment to reject 18 million voters in favor of the inexperienced and ideological Barack Obama.
His cynical use of centrist language as a tool to get elected does not change the fact of his true objectives for America.
After watching President Obama in office for more than a year, it is clear to me that, during the campaign, we already knew what kind of president he would become.
The health-care summit vividly demonstrated Mr. Obama’s fake bipartisanship. When he was a candidate, we celebrated when he said, “We are not red or blue states. We are the United States of America.” But candidate Obama had no record of bipartisan behavior. Ironically, the one time that Obama entered into a bipartisan effort was with, of all people, John McCain. He reached across the aisle to draft ethics reform legislation with Senator McCain. But when Obama returned to the Democratic establishment with a bill that did not meet their favor, he backed away fast. It was candidate McCain who had worked productively and regularly with Democrats, like with Russ Feingold on campaign-finance reform and Ted Kennedy on immigration. The record told me more than the rhetoric about which candidate would honestly respect the other side and reach across the aisle to find the best solutions for America.
Perhaps the biggest fabrication of the Obama candidacy was his claim of being a centrist. Sure, he made promises during the campaign that pleased moderates. He promised “the elimination of capital gains taxes for small business,” a $3,000 refundable tax credit to existing businesses for every additional employee hired through 2010, removal of penalties for early withdrawal of 401(k) savings during the recession, and no administration jobs for lobbyists. Perhaps the best of all was the promise he made in the Mississippi presidential debate when he said, “We need earmark reform. And when I’m president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely.” They were specific, sensible promises—ones that enabled him to mislead the electorate about his real plans for America.
Again, I chose to look beyond the rhetoric to the record. At the time, it was obvious that a candidate who won the primary because of the left would be beholden to the left, no matter what promises he made to get elected. It was also obvious to ask what kind of president would have voted “present” on 129 difficult votes while in the Illinois State Senate. He was always thinking about how to keep every constituency happy; how to maintain his viability for the White House. In The Audacity of Hope, he criticized Bill Clinton for giving too much respect to Ronald Reagan. He asked the Democratic Leadership Council, the centrist Democratic group, to remove his name from their lists.
So if he wasn’t going to be a centrist Democrat in the tradition of Bill Clinton, what did Barack Obama want from his presidency, should he be elected? He told us from the beginning. It was a stunning agenda, but it seemed innocuous, even inspiring, during the campaign. Standing on the steps of the old Illinois State Capitol, announcing his candidacy for president, Obama declared he was running “not just to hold an office, but to gather with you to transform a nation.” Suddenly now everyone is worried he is trying to transform America. He had said so all along. His is an effort to make a bigger, more intrusive and more costly government. His hope is, and has always been, to turn the country into a nation that looks more like a European social democracy. He ignores that the roots of our strength have always been small government and a dynamic private sector, fostered by both Democrats and Republicans. His cynical use of centrist language as a tool to get elected does not change the fact of his true objectives for America. It is telling that under Obama’s presidency, according to Sunday’s CNN Poll, 37 percent of Democrats, 63 percent of independents and 70 percent of Republicans see the federal government as a threat to the rights of Americans.
Our central problem is that the combination of his grandiloquence and the September 2008 financial crisis led to his election. Now, the only way to stop him in the next three years is through voter pressure on Congress. One course is to follow Massachusetts and just elect any Republican. But both parties lack courageous leaders who will fight for the values and policies of the middle. We need a movement of the militant middle; millions of voters who support the sensible policies from both parties. This would give Democrats political cover to stand up to Obama, Pelosi, and Reid and Republicans the backbone to acknowledge that the country must progress in order to be strong. Most Americans see a false choice between a smaller government and a progressive country. We must have both. It is our only hope.
Lady de Rothschild is chief executive of E.L. Rothschild LLC, a private investment company. She is a director of the Estee Lauder Cos. and The Economist Newspaper Ltd.
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CarrieAnn
Lady de Rothschild, you're nuts.
maluminse
Lol shes not nuts. Shes right wing extremist with same agenda which she uses the word "journalism" to hide behind.
Claiming Obama has done something evil whether he does or not.Of course its fake bipartisanship. What makes it so easy is the obstructionist position so many republicans have taken.
If he hadnt tried to work with the devil the article would be about his lack of care for all members of congress.
case1234
Leftist agenda??? you kidding me. How was this woman a democrat??
Let see Obama increased troops to Afghanistan by 50k, increased activity in Afpak, did not push the Public Option in health care reform. Pushed moderate regulatory reform. Hillary Clinton is his Sec of State. Half of his cabinet are former Clinton cabinet members.
This woman is pushing propaganda, pure and simple. Her statements have no basis in fact.
timeisnow
case
How dumb are you, when Van Jones is spilling his guts all over CNN this weekend that the White House knew he was a COMMUNIST and knew all about what he believed in. If thats not having a Leftist agenda I dont know what the hell is. This is a Smoking Gun that Obama's Agenda is Socialism and now it is exposed to America
flyoverland
Nuts? Next you loons will be trotting her off to a re-education camp. She was simply saying what everyone knew, but the biased media was afraid to report. She should run for office. I'd donate money to her campaign, except she probably doesn't need it.
rdalin
It's absolute insanity for anyone to try to claim at this point that Obama is far left of anything. He's a centrist Democrat trying to be president of both sides of this country, and doing a pretty good job of it.
flyoverland
Oh, sorry, I thought your name was Ritalin.
rdalin
If he's so far left, where's the war crime trials? Why isn't Guantanamo shuttered? Why are we building up (successfully) the war in Afghanistan?
If he's so liberal, why didn't he spend all year trying to ram the public option, or medicare-for-all down our throats? If he's so liberal, why did he keep the Republican secretary of state?
If he's such a far left liberal, why was half the stimulus package tax cuts? Where's the additional stimulus packages that the Democrats have been wanting?
The truth is he's a pretty centrist president. Unlike Bush, he's trying to be president of both Democrats and Republicans.
On the other hand, the Republicans have shown themselves to be absolute traitors to this country. They cheer on violence against our government, they want to see our government (in the middle of a terrible recession) ground to a halt, and when some hack like Rothschild comes along writing nonsense like this, they believe every word of it.
lylerush
lynn is not a democrat; she's a nobody who married up; a right wing loser. they sucker us by pretending to be unhappy democrats
deltablue
Fancy name, fancy titles, dumb ass reasoning. Always. A typical case of Pearls to swines. I always knew this lady was crazy. How many shifting excuses has she given so far to disguise her racism? What I like from the Universe, IT always reckons with this type of people.
possumdearie
The Democrats have a majority. The only thing Obama wanted from the GOP was political covers for fake Blue Dogs. Why should Republicans fall on their swords for Obama when it be a slap in the face to their constituents? Nobody wanted a government takeover of 1/6 of the US economy except the 20% of Americans who identify themselves as progressives.
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Monk66
Some people don't deserve arguments.
While throughout the whole article, she says she's looking past Obama's rhetoric. Then, for her only argument based on fact and not fiction, she goes to his rhetoric:
"Obama declared he was running "not just to hold an office, but to gather with you to transform a nation." Suddenly now everyone is worried he is trying to transform America. He had said so all along."
And to you, you just did the same thing. "when they were unpopular children."
Weird how that works..
FarLeftFist
Banjo
Sure, because the RW doesn't resort to name-calling. Riiiiiight.
Rock meet glass house.
pacifistgunslinger
Engage in what argument? The woman makes a few sloppy statements and you call it an argument? Hardly. Besides, I was a very popular child and even in my old age I remain popular. I find no issue with calling someone "stupid" who is in fact stupid. In any case, Bush used approximately the same rhetoric (he was going to unite the country etc) and he ended up dividing much more than anyone can reasonably claim Obama has.
lylerush
carl rove lives
Helen Rose McCombs
I notice that Lady Lynn is being called a racist. I bet the person that called her that is a guilty white person who would scream yell and sell her house if a real black person moved into their neighborhood because in my experience as an Afriican American that is what Liberals do. They are usually much more racist then the Conservatives.
If that delta person is black then no one should pay attention to her because they are racist. It is racist to call white people racist without any indication that she is racist. Where does she state in this article anything racist? I didn't vote for Obama and I feel the same way about him that she does and I dare some chicken head to call me racist or race traitor. I can and will debate race all day long. I am sick of the racist term being thrown around for disagreeing with Obama. Its only going to hurt African Americans in the end
possumdearie
"No, really. I'm popular. Even when I was a child, all the other children liked me best. No one ever said I had cooties. Nanny nanny boo boo. And BUSH!"
donquijoterocket
It would probably be much easier to engage on the level of ideas, concepts, and precepts if the wingnuts ever actually presented any rather than immediately launching into their usual spewing of pabulum in the form of predigested blathering points, catchwords, and fear phrases.
Certainly this phony aristocrat deserves little consideration for her employment of the same.
elliebach
Too funny!!!.I burst out laughing when I eagerly got to the comments to lambast this idiot only to see my own thought as the first comment! (I truly hope they didn't pay her for this tripe.)
CitizenPain
Lady de Rothchild is right on the mark, drives the lefty loonies wild I see. Nothing centrist about this WH imposter, including his alcoholism -like his daddy you'll recall- if it really was his daddy. He's slicker than Slick Willy.
possumdearie
Yeah, funny how groupthink works. That's why nobody's paying you. There is a premium on originality these days.
Ronin58
I am truly puzzled ...how can someone so ill informed and delusional possiby serve on the board of directors of one of the world's most highly regarded and truly objective publications i.e. The Economist ?
I am reminded of the inverse square rule applied to media :
The business acumen of a news organization is in an inverse square relationship to its editorial excellence ... b (a) = 1/ e(xcl) x e(xcl)
Look at Fox News : brilliantly run business and the sleaziest crappiest edit team known since Pravda and Goebbels's rags.
Monk66
so b(a)=1?
let's say e(xcl)=y
Then b(a)=(1/y)(y)
b(a)=(y/y)
b(a)=1
Ronin58
Monk66
You're quite right ...I caused confusion because I was too lazy to create an exponent 2 next to e(xcl) term...so I went with e(xcl) x e(xcl) ...both terms dividing 1....
that is what I meant to say and my clumsiness is duly noted .
I suspect you did well on your math SAT .
Jaygim
"Look at Fox News: ...."
"Uh, that pretty much describes the media in general."
signed, Jayson Blair
timeisnow
Ronin and Monk
You two Radical Liberal Pin Heads are just as dumb as Obama! You probably work for the Democrat Party to spew their talking points on here.
Just for the record we aren't buying he crap and this Liberal Agenda. Obama is so far left his is personally falling off the cliff, his numbers are 43%, I hope he keeps on doing whatever he is doing now, it will make it that more easier in November and 2012
Monk66
Damn timeisnow, you figured me out.
I am part of your conspiracy on this website to sell you the liberal crap in the name of Obama. I only wish I was smart enough to outsmart you. Obviously I wasn't. Now I have to meet my maker.
sharinlite
Your question and its answers, answer your own questions. Until the media can come even close to Murdoch's empire, who is sleazy? Look in the mirror to see your sou!
possumdearie
I bet Lynn De Rothschild knows what a price-earnings ratio is.
sonofloud
lol I wonder how many people with the title "Lady" and the last name of Rothschild would ever vote for a democrat?
She is an obvious and transparent fraud.
pacifistgunslinger
Real Americans spit on such honorific titles.
possumdearie
Yeah, like those old drunks at the Kennedy compound.
superdad
sonofloud, You mean people like Rockefeller and Heinz, Kennedy, "Lady" Bird Johnson? We know they are all frauds as well!
timeisnow
Carrie.
She is Correct and knew what he was all about , and the press and the far left will never admit it, because that would admit defeat..and failure
Ronin58
Time
I can't speak for Monk,but I appreciate the compliment...being as "dumb "as Obama would put me in a pretty amazing stratum of intellect. Certainly one I could ever aspire to.
And Monk does know his way around equations ...
BTW what did you get in your Math SAT ? Oh, 800 certainly and you have a phd in particle physics from MIT I suspect.
Monk66
No timeisnow wrote the SAT. Both the english and the math.
CitizenPain
right on timeisnow... carrie is stuck in NC, cabin fever has struck. Obama is a radical proponent of Alinsky & his 'Rules for Radicals.' Let's celebrate Dr. Mark Levin's "Liberty v. Tyranny."
anghiari
Ms. Moneybags de Rothchild...is still smarting. A dear friend of Hillary Clinton's, she was purportedly promised the prime much sought after position as British Ambassador if Mrs. Clinton had won...she didn't, so Moneybags de Rothchild had to go back to London and remain filthy rich...poor baby. This so-called Democrat jumped the fence when Hillary Lost and latched onto John McCain...which I loved...two scheming losers who are willing to ditch honor, integrity and ethics to get what they want. John's campaign fell through the rabbit hole...and well, Mrs. Moneybags...hated SarahBarbie Palin..too cute and too country....I'm surprised she hasn't shown up on Palin's bandwagon though, Palin is getting press and de Rothchild is so desperate to be seen and heard....Teabagger next Mrs. de Rothchild?
CitizenPain
@anghiari can play with my teabag anytime, ya freak
possumdearie
She had better sense than sending cheap DVDs to Gordon Brown, and she could have brokered a better deal than 17.5% VAT on that cool $1B cost as well. For *Castle Grey Skull* with a moat and everything! Why no sharks with laser beams on their heads?
Logical
"Lady" Rothschild is an idiot and not pariticularly original. The Teabaggers have already beaten her to the crazy train and rehashing their talking points is not particularly impressive. Stop trying to make yourself important by attacking the President, it's just pathetic.
CitizenPain
@logical : teabag me biotch
thebigotbasher
Lady Lynne de loads of de Rotschild Money - while you may have been the Worlds richest PUMA - do you remember that your magazine, The Economist endorsed Barack Obama?
Helen Rose McCombs
The Bigotbasher who is a racist sexist pig is on here. He is a creepy little pin head who is not even American perhaps he should stick to his own country which of course can't even take care of themselves. They have to cry everytime people go after them. The Bigotbasher is one of those racist Liberals who feel guilty about their own racism that they pat themselves on the back for voting for the "negro" Voting for Barack because he is black doesn't make you not a racist and not votng for him doesn't make you not a racist.
Funny I remember only one racist comment being made throughout 2008 and that was made by BO when he referred to the Grandmother who raised him as being a typical white person. That was racist.
By the way Bigotbasher I am African American Perhaps you should worry about the politics in your own useless country before you stick your nose in mine. You sexist idiot
possumdearie
Fat lot of good it did them!
thebigotbasher
"perhaps he should stick to his own country which of course can't even take care of themselves."
"By the way Bigotbasher I am African American Perhaps you should worry about the politics in your own useless country before you stick your nose in mine. You sexist idiot"
Nah not not bigoted at all.
Perhaps if Lady Marries on Up showed any intellectual credibility I would not have mocked her. Perhaps you will remember British soldiers are fighting alongside American soldiers in a Republican Party war, you would understand why the British had more than a little interest in who got elected in 2008.
I wont take lectures from a PUMA bigotbot about sexism given that they support sites like NoQuarter, Hillbuzz and the uber hypocritical New Palin Agenda. Of course sexism only matters to bigotbots like you when when it is against "pro Hillary" or Palin women.
dhspeller
Interesting point of view...but I'm not sure we were watching the same event/summit. If your form of bipartisanship is the republican styled- "startover" kind, then you could have spent your time doing something else. That was a 'non-starter' towards compromise before anybody sat down at the table.
What the Republicans tried to do --and failed...and have been failing to do for quite some time is manipulate their way into power from the minority position. Anybody who's fake are those who pretend that that's not the case. You and the REpubs lost the election. You and the REpubs did not win. ..how many other ways does it need to be said? And guess what? They are heading to lose more seats in November if they keep trying to Obstruct legislature.
The nerve to even come to a meeting with a plan that only covers 3,000,000 people which costs half as much as a plan that covers 30,000,000 is useless on its face. That is a waste of money on the Republicans part. What were the republicans thinking? There are a lot of people who need health coverage and now is the time to get something done. Maybe you should watch the video again...and this time, stay awake.
fritolay
Does everyone remember when nobody told us so? I got it in my diary, right here, "Paranoid nobody worried about socialist president with kenyan birth certificate". It was the intellectual highlight of 2009. (Roth)Childkiller, we need more like you. Your yacht is a swiftboat, no doubt.
ohsure
Sec'y Clinton's association with this aristocratic far right-wing parttime American golddigger doesn't say much for her judgment. I think we avoided an even greater problem when we elected President Obama.
fritolay
SHOULD OBAMA'S BIPARTISANSHIP BE ANY LESS FAKE THAN THE REPUBLICANS? (Republicans love America, they just hate Americans.)
Marionetta
Well put. She. Is. Nuts. I'm sure the Democrats were ecstatic when she
decided to support McShame.
KarisBon
Lynn, you are an extrememly bright and perceptive individual, with experience and substantial knowledge. You also have power and money, to your credit and much deserved. Please consider involving yourself in politics at a deeper level. As Tina Brown said, "Not all of us drank the koolaid." We need to right this ship before we all drown.
rjcrawford33
Wow, I was hoping for something a lot more subtle than this nonsense. Her perspective is too laughable to refute.
FarLeftFist
True, her "I told you so" shows her extreme bias. Regardless of what the president is doing, her "I told you so" was just her excuse for hoping he fails so she could muster those simple words.
We can play the 'I told you so' game with any president at any time in American history. But when everyones insurance premiums keep going through the roof and small businesses keep dropping coverage I guess the Dems should just turn around and say "I told you so". But I guess when your a Rothschild you don't worry about those things.
timeisnow
Far
Its called the truth, but thats right you Radical Liberals dont know what the hell the Truth is... You don't believe in it ..
FarLeftFist
That article was pure rhetoric, Lynn speaks as if the President has commited any of these so-called Leftist agenda 'transformations'. (which btw is far better than a RW agenda).
She is just spewing the same paranoid RW talking points ala fox news. Obama speaks like a Centrist probably because HE IS a Centrist, you think Liberals/Progressives would have continued 2 wars or bailed out banks, dropped a public option, or for that matter even put Dana Perino in his circle!? I think America just forgot what a Centrist was like. If I didn't know any better I would say Obama might be a moderate republican, but I think America forgot what those were like too.
benama
Nice response.
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FarLeftFist
Funny, in your previous response above you say:
"Funny how the left treats disagreement. Instead of engaging with the argument, they resort to insults, abuse, name-calling and other rhetorical devices recalled from when they were unpopular children."
Hypocrite much?
timeisnow
Obama couldnt move any further Left than he is, all that other stuff is to fool you stupid Messiah worshipers... We know what he is, and he just can t hide it anymore.
oblomova
Hmmm, seems to me that the guy who thought he was the Messiah was Dubya - the one who claimed that he got his orders from a "higher Father" and who couldn't name one single mistake he ever made.
williams1977
Yeah that crazy lefty Obama who just reauth'ed the Patriot Act. Do you Obama-haters even comprehend the difference between right and left, liberal and conservative, Democrat and Republican?
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possumdearie
We remember all the halos photoshopped onto President Chin Thrust during the campaigns.
possumdearie
He couldn't accomplish his leftwing agenda, because nobody wants it! Nobody wants their energy costs to go up under cap and trade. Nobody wants the public option, though Obama has said he is a "single payer kind of guy" and admitted the public option is a way to single payer. He met with lobbyists behind closed doors and negotiated with pharmaceutical companies to keep drug prices high. Air America called him a fascist, except they were echoing the disappointment of moderate voters who wanted healthcare reform, not a government takeover. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgZsgLa2ntE
Obama wouldn't close Gitmo, because even San Francisco wouldn't take the terrorists.Instead, some were released where they went right back to plotting murder including the Christmas Day underwear bomber. President Obama was fine with reading that loon his Miranda rights like he was just a shoplifter. That's not leftist! /sarc
MrsPolly
possum has perfected the art of holding two contradictory opinions at once. Obama's a leftist who wants single payer! No, he's meeting with lobbyists to keep drug prices high! Air America (the whole network, evidently) called him a fascist! But he's not leftist/sarc!
Sorry, Felonious Monk, you do not evoke anything of the exquisite Blossom Dearie. But you are in between the devil and the deep blue sea.
possumdearie
Mrs.Polly, when you take fascism as its literal definition, collusion between the government and big business, then it makes perfect sense. The far right of the political spectrum is anarchism. The far left is communism, and along the way you have fascism and socialism. In the middle is government by social contract. You make all the bad jazz puns you like, honey, but it helps if you can read the music!
thebigotbasher
Possumidiot,
the underwear bomber was never in GITMO.
Providing the underwear bomber with the legal rights that date back to before the birth of the USA as a Nation is not leftist, it is common sense.
Kalid Sheikh Mohammed was not leading an Army of revolutionary soldiers. He is not a Freedom Fighter or Revolutionary because he does not have a recognised political platform. To compare him to a soldier, or a revolutionary insults every American who fought against British rule to the valiant Privates serving in the Army today facing gunfire in Afghanistan.
The same goes for underpants bomber, he is not a freedom fighter or a political prisoner, he is a failed terrorist. A joke. A common criminal.
Treating terrorists or attempted terrorists as anything but a common criminal gives them a status of a political prisoner. It appeases and recognises their "cause"
To appease terrorists is to concede victory to them and to condemn more innocent people to lose their lives to them. That however is your stated position and the position adopted by the Republican Party. You wish to give special status to terrorists. By arguing for military trials for terrorists you are placing on them the label of freedom fighter/ political prisoner. People like you grant succour to terrorists.
bratcat
LFdR is a hypocrite. She went on CNN and told Anderson Cooper that the "rednecks" were bitter and she though Obama was too much of an elisist. She then hopped in her private plane and flew to her English castle for the weekend. And voting for a ticket that has Sarah Palin on it, after backing Hillary, is NOT putting country first, it's just being spiteful.
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timeisnow
monk
you only wish you had one...LOL
Women Rule!!!!!!!
sonofloud
lol
anghiari
Her brain is clearly on a slow burn...and I don't think the other "thing" works either. She is much to mean to have a sex life.
AlmondEye
yeah, that's John McCain..
possumdearie
Like Monk's seen one since it spit him out.
yourmama
monk,grow up!
indieinva
Agree. This woman is a joke. Clinton and Obama were almost indistinguishable as far as policy positions during the Democratic Primary and this woman was a die-hard Hillary supporter. When Clinton lost the primary, this shill became a die-hard PUMA and jumped on the Palin bus. For her to cry about Obama's leftist agenda, with her history, is an utter joke.
Vaginal voting, indeed. People like Rothschild are an embarrassment to women everywhere.
possumdearie
There were three big differences between Obama and Hillary. He is black, and she is a woman. In the rock-paper-scissors of Democrat identity politics, black beats gay and gay beats woman. Then Hillary said things first, and when he'd say what she said, he didn't mean it. LOL
Monk66
if black beats gay, and gay beats woman, then in the game of rock paper scissor woman beats black. Which a black beat a woman.
Way to think it through possum.
James Allen Wilder
The only thing in the middle of the road is a big yellow stripe and the occasional dead vermin that got that way by getting in the way.
As you well know, madam, the top 25% own 85% of the wealth in this country and they pay the lowest amount of taxes in modern history. That dynamic private sector of which you speak has indeed been quite dynamic in decimating the manufacturing sector of this nation, abdicating their responsibilities within the social contract, crippling the middle class by moving jobs abroad, privatizing their profits, and socializing their losses. They did this by bribing the congress of this country. So, when Pres. Obama, who was elected by a very clear margin, far wider than W ever saw, moves to bring that scale more into balance, it is beyond predictable that a member of the elite club that you belong to would start to grumble.
The Democratic Party will do just fine without the likes of you.
possumdearie
Starting with when he gave Microsoft co-founder and owner of the NFL's Seattle Seahawks and the NBA's Portland Trailblazers Paul Allen a billion-dollar tax break in the stimulus. It's mere coincidence that Microsoft and Goldman Sachs were top contributors to the Obama campaign. Here's more coincidence: IT services firm HCL Technologies Ltd has tied up with Microsoft to provide retail banking solution to help banks in the Asia-Pacific. Microsoft grows increasingly closer to bankers and is adding to its influence in the US government, and doesn't have to pay taxes like the Secretary of Treasury!
SensiStar
This lady is insane.
She hates Obama so much for beating Hillary she would support McCain and Plain stupid.
I'm not sure I would call that love for my country.
More like suicide.
Just like the millions of Republicans hoping Obama fails so they can get back in power to finish us off.
hawkeye
this article is a joke.
Maezeppa
This de Rothschild person has a screw loose. Seriously.
misha1000
"This de Rothschild person has a screw loose. Seriously."
Amen, bro.
elliebach
Oh, people...more like every screw holding her mainframe together...
possumdearie
Ellie Light, is that you?
yourmama
possum-I think it is.
justaposition
"So if he wasn't going to be a centrist Democrat in the tradition of Bill Clinton, what did Barack Obama want from his presidency, should he be elected?"
That is a regrettable run-on sentence. That's pretty embarrassing. Here's an example of how it should have flowed:
So if what amounts to a man-on-the-street poll (see: CNN citation) is your best evidence of a dangerous executive branch, is your argument worthwhile? Should readers simply disregard?
mojopdx
Justaposition, I'll agree that the this piece is a self-serving mess, but you need to read that sentence again. The modal auxiliary "should" in that last clause is simply setting the conditional mood, not setting up a separate question.
Ronin58
Good catch !
possumdearie
Somebody get these two a towel. So much mental masturbation gets messy!
Baddchild
Well Lynn, alot of us knew this going in.
We saw a man who has never been in charge of anything. He has never ran a business or had to meet a payroll. Just 2 years experience in D.C. and now he's going to be in charge. That's like being the janitor or IT nerd and being promoted to CEO. Everytime he walks into a room in D.C. he's the least experienced, most unqualified person in the room and the people now realize it and thats why he is upside down in every poll except for the daily kos poll (just taking the latest gallup poll and adding 5-8 points to it doesn't really constitute a poll kos). America sees what harm this administration and this congress is doing to this country and come November there should be enough changes in D.C. to force 0bama to actually negotiate instead of just trying to ram unpopular bills through congress.
Baddchild
in 24 hours we knew more about the killer whale at Sea World than we did about 0bama before electing this nimcompoop. Blame the media for protecting him and not vetting him properly and for tossing Hillary, McCain, Palin and Romnet under the bus.
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Baddchild
barry you proved that you aren't smarter than a 5th grader if you think that 0bama is the smartest person in the room. In 13 months he has made things 10 times worse than when he was elected to office so the only person he needs to get through to is himself.
As for showing our president respect and the United States of the "GOP", unlike you liberal douchebags, conservatives have shown him and this country more respect than you ever have in now and in the past. You don't see us burning the flag, wiping our asses with the constitution as in liberal circles. The right don't make movies continually showing our soldiers as anti-heros or baby killers. You don't hear us telling everyone we are going to move to Canada if 0bama gets elected. We stood with this country when we were attacked on 9/11, we fought the war on terror, we fought it to protect this country. We didn't try to sabotage it because if it suceeded, the liberals would be forever out of power and instead you commie pieces of crap looked to make this country weaker.
We bleed patriotism and would die to protect it's freedom while you piss on the things that make this country great. Just a few short years ago Hillary was screeching, as only she can, that to disagree with the administration in charge WAS patriotic which is what we do and instead of being held out as patriotic we are instead called racist because liberals like you sir have no response to the failure of this administration. This is the country of Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson, not Salinsky, Marx and 0bama.
Baddchild
and in honor of the buffoon barrylane I shall purposely reply to my reply again, which I did the first time so that the posts would remain together....
Instead of denying that the man-child president wasn't properly vetted all you could do was whine about how I chose to address it. So since we agree on that let's talk about your constant use of the term "teabagger". Do you get grief in the bathouses and bathroom stalls at the night clubs for using a term for one of your favorite pastimes on rightwingers? I would think that you would find that insulting to you and your fellow tebagging practitioners.....
timeisnow
badchild
We love what you have to say, we agree with you and support your comments.
Baddchild
TY timeisnow
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anghiari
All of these whiners seem to forgotten a certain person who couldn't spell potato or complete a sentence...and they expect us to accept their analysis of this President...Puleeze
Baddchild
By all means barry - correct my english, atleast then you'd be correct about something. I have little time between breaks so I don't re-read my posts to impress myself or worry about what my professors would have thought about by grammar.
Don't whine about our present foray into Iraq while forgetting as I'm sure you were whining about how innocent Saddam was in the first Iraq war too. You were probably cheering the media on when they were declaring that hundreds of thousands of soldiers would be killed if we pursed the Iraqi Republican Army, declared by the press to be the "best trained fighting force", (turned out to be cup cakes) back to Baghdad. Thus allowing Saddam's reign of terror to continue for another decade. If Bush I wasn't scared of the bad press and we took care of Saddam then none of the horrors that happened since would have occurred. In other words you libs weren't behind our troops and it lead to many more deaths.
I'm sure you weren't the least bit upset when Clinton sat by as the terror attacks in Riyadh, Kohbar Towers, Kenya, Tanzania & the USS Cole went unanswered. You probably cheered when he refused to accept Bin Laden from the Sudanese because he was worried about his civil rights. Probably thought it was cool when Sandy Burgler stole the documents proving this from the national archives in his socks too. And ofcourse you weren't nearly concerned about Bin Laden's civil right when Clinton bombing a asprin factory aslong as it was to redirect the focus of Monica Lewinsky testifying about him spooging on her blue dress.
I'm sure you fogot how bad a guy you thought Sadaam was when the Clinton/Gore administration spoke out about his WMD's. Infact you probably thought it was horrible right up until the time Bush and the British declared the same thing.
Let's not forget how you decried the Bush administration when they were preparing to go into Afghanistan to respond to 9/11 and hunt down Bin Laden and his civil rights before we even went to Iraq again. And I'm sure all that rage at Bush is non-existent for 0bama as he continues and even amplifies those wars today.
I bet you think that Cheney's support for Haliburton is not nearly as bad as Murtha's and Boxer's decying those same things in public yet making millions off those same wars in private....
PS
check your own english before you accuse others because your liberal public school education is showing....
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possumdearie
You know who was smart? James A. Garfield. He discovered a Pythagorean proof while he was in the House, and he was ambidextrous, able to answer a question while writing with one hand in Greek and the other in Latin. Obama couldn't even show up to the Senate while he was running for President, but he could talk out of both sides of his mouth!
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possumdearie
I did think of it myself. But here's a treat for you that I stole. "I got some ice cream ... and you don't got none ... cause you're on welfare and your daddy's an alcoholic."
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sophia5
Right on Sister Rothschild.
Obama is a Far Leftist . . . a Socialist, yet Socialists keep trying the same old
song and dance, Big Government Control, and it doesn't work.
Greece is on fire, France is a mess . . . and to all you Left Wing Nuts,
how's that Great Socialist experiment, the Soviet Union Working out ?
Oopsy . . . Not so much.
How's East Germany Working Out ? Oops . . . Never more.
When are you Che loving freaks going to catch on ?
Monk66
How did the conservative bush work out?
Sophia is a white supremacy nazi who eats children and goes hunting for bald eagles. She believes in slavery, polygamy, and worships satan.
Sophia was an accident. Her parents left her in a garbage can at 2 months old and she was raised by rats and beetles. At age 8 she was "rescued" by McCarthy, hence the calling everyone a Socialist or Communist.
The sad part is, I'm throwing out the same unfactual BS you have been putting on this website for months.
e065702
Sophia5, wow what a meaningless rant! I am not even sure where you are coming from. You bundle Western Europe of 2010 with Eastern Europe/Asia of 1987 in the same analysis.
My guess is that there is an actual point to this screed but as is typical of so many extremists, you want others to understand what you mean without having to explain it.
Usually the reason for this is that properly verbalizing an analysis usually exposes any logical weaknesses in the underlying claim. This is a very human trait, I am sure I am guilty of it also. The difference is that I don't expect others to take my word on the basis of an emotional association as opposed to a logical, linear explanation.
Just my opinion
FarLeftFist
Sophia lives in the town where 'The Crazies' was filmed. Want to talk about socialism, here is what Palin said: "And Alaska - we're set up, unlike other states in the Union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs".-Palin
Who's the Socialist?
pacifistgunslinger
In the socialist state of Alaska
Everyone gets his fair share
The oil in the ground
Is collectively owned
Just like in Venezuela!
--Hugo Palin
anghiari
Clearly you haven't pulled your head out of the toilet since the 1960's ....socialists, Che, Soviet Union...whoeeeeee!
possumdearie
Every man, woman and child who is a permanent resident of Alaska receives a yearly dividend from the Alaska Permanent Fund. Established in 1976 by a constitutional amendment supported by Alaska voters, the fund requires at least 25 percent of the proceeds from the sale of Alaska's mineral resources (such as oil) to be set aside as an income-producing investment for the people of Alaska. The 2008 Fund dividend was $3,269 per person. It is not socialism but capitalism, since the funds are paid out by a corporation to the Alaskan citizens as shareholders by dividend checks.
Monk66
aka redistribution of wealth
pacifistgunslinger
So you voted for a guy whose experience was being bailing out by his daddy and executing a few mentally retarded people.
anghiari
Well for a guy who knew nothing and never did anything...he was smart enough and talented enough to bury the highly experienced Clintons and Republican Frat boy...John McCain...These people have been there done that forever...
By the way those guys running businesses in this country drove this country into a financial ditch and COULDN'T MEET THEIR PAYROLLS AND HAD TO COME TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF JAIL.
teachermom
O did it by lying and misrepresenting what he intended to do. Look at his
team in the WH. Is that really the best the country has to offer? Nobody
trusts or believes this administration unless you are still fooled by his agenda.
Monk66
or nobody distrusts this administration unless you were fooled by RW media.
scristanti
Everything that was said here is the truth, I would rather have Hillary then obama any day and I am a lone Republican here,all you libs can say is shes nuts, she hates obama, she wants him to fail, but you cannot deny the FACTS, obama is a CON, he is no centrist, now that is a lie, and a joke. He is the most arrogant, conceited, eleitist grand speaker who can read the words that are written for him so well from a teleprompter, better then any president I have ever seen, he is all words, I say Lady de Rothschild, ignore these comments, you said the facts, and they cannot dispute them, but just spew their hatred for anyone who does go against their beloved obama and his poll numbers show that there is buyers remorse out there, so I say also, I TOLD YOU SO!!!!
blissfulight
Can you spell President Obama's name with a capitol "O"? Nope, didn't think so. Can you write better than a fifth grader? Nope, didn't think so. Can you come off without sounding like an unhinged wingnut? Nope, didn't think so.
jbrendan
Capitol "O?" Really? Pot, meet kettle.
truthiness2
I will spell his name with a capital letter: Barry S.
possumdearie
Grammar Nazi. Couldn't respond to anything else. Look at you all swanning around like you have titles. I bet Lady de Rothschild treats the working class more kindly than you upstarts. She grew up with a blue collar family in NJ.
MrsPolly
@skunkie: Lynn Forester grew up in Oradell, N.J., daughter of the president of an aviation company. She went to exclusive schools, and vacationed in Israel, where she made money by selling American jeans at ten times what she paid for them. She went on to marry rich, politically connected lawyer Andy (Finkel)Stein, and also married somebody else whose name I don't recall, before finally divorcing Andy and meeting Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, more than 25 years her senior, at the Bilderberg conference. Sir Evelyn was rather awkwardly married to somebody else at the time.
possumdearie
Polly, wanna cracker? Giver her credit for thinking not being boring is more important than being rich.
anghiari
The funny thing scristanti...is that Moneybags de Rothchild probably wouldn't find you accomplished enough or chic enough to have a cup of tea with her...but you sillys never understand how you have been manipulated to the point, that voting against your best interest is seen by you as keeping the Democrats from giving away the country.
Your arguments are regurgitated silliness and reflect your lack of intellectual rigor. You are an easy prey for the right wingers...eager in your stupidity to do and say anything that they tell you to do...ROBOTS ARE US in full whine.
rottenart
Yes! Yes, you're absolutely right! Let's not ignore the FACTS! Can you point out those FACTS in your post so I can see them clearly?
Would only that you had such an appetite for FACTS. Sigh.
winterparkmom
Wow! All of faux's talking points and exact words. Have you ever had an original thought in your head since you started watching them and listening to fatboy limpd!ck? Probably not.
gabby09
If you saw any of the interviews with her during the campaign, you could see this coming. She had nothing substantial to say then and has nothing substantial to say now.
And really...with a bio like this (included just below), does she have *any* credibility in terms of an interest in the greater good?!
"Lady de Rothschild is chief executive of E.L. Rothschild LLC, a private investment company. She is a director of the Estee Lauder Cos. and The Economist Newspaper Ltd."
I think not.
All that and she supported a ticket that included Palin.
Puh-leeeeze.
http://adatingconfessional.blogspot.com
indieinva
She is why I cancelled my sub. to The Economist last year. With her display of how utterly ridiculous she is during the campaign, The Economists credibility sank to ZERO in my eyes.
possumdearie
La dee da! I got a subscription to The New Yorker and The Economist. Can't even read the theatre reviews for the NYT anymore.
tserpent
And she was sitting in the Board that setup the agenda for the Democratic party, talk about GOP operatives!
jda1973
I saw the picture, and said to myself Oh shit....this crazy bitch again...............I dont even need to read the article.
jbrendan
How did yourself then respond to yourself?
Monk66
MF ZIIINNNGGG
anghiari
Oh please Jbrendan...wanting folks to do your work for you.... but okay...she smiled that smile and gave herself a high five for nailing the bitch!
Shirley Eugest
Your "only choice" was to put Sarah Palin a heartbeat from the presidency, yet you nonetheless still deem yourself a Democrat?
You actually believe that President John McCain - or (shudder) President Sarah Palin - would more reliably advance the ideals and objectives of the Democratic Party than would President Obama?
I knew that the internet reaches almost every spot on Earth, but I had not realized that it apparently now reaches whatever planet on which you could be considered a Democrat. Perhaps the inhabitants of that planet will accept the logic of your argument - and the assumptions it is based on, i.e., that Obama is a leftist ideologue, etc. - but few of us Earthlings are likely to.
How's the weather out there?
possumdearie
In your world where all Democrats are lockstep on the issues, there is no excuse for the healthcare bill not passing. Remember, everybody must think the same!
Shirley Eugest
1) You clearly know nothing about my world.
2) Misrepresenting the premises of someone's argument, either knowingly or because you fail to understand them, is a very different thing from refuting their argument. Ad hominems and non sequiturs are very poor substitutes for facts and logic. Did you actually read my comment? Did you perhaps intend to attach this "reply" to someone else's comment and inadvertently attach it to mine instead? It certainly doesn't speak to the point I was making.
3) Expecting a so-called Democrat to support the party's nominee rather than a candidate with positions all but antithetical to the core values of the party is a profoundly - and obviously - different thing from expecting them to be in "lockstep on the issues." It should be clear to anyone who has read a newspaper in the last thirty years that Democrats do not all "think the same", nor do they expect each other to. They do, however, expect people who want to be considered Democrats to refrain from casting votes in direct opposition to the objectives of the party. That is hardly "lockstep."
possumdearie
John McCain's positions were so far from antithetical to the Democratic party platform that he needed a social conservative with a libertarian track record on his ticket or no Republican would have voted for him. President John McCain would have been better for the Democratic party in that you would have had true bipartisanship instead of a government trifecta and spared yourselves the embarrassment of overreach and the spectacle of outright looting. Results-oriented people saw past the election hype, and wanted to see Congress working instead of grand-standing. Who has the chance to misrepresent you when you're parroting Democratic talking points right out of the gate? Ironically, he "heartbeat away from the presidency" locution dates from 1952, when the Democratic nominee, Adlai Stevenson, attacked the Republican VP candidate, the 39-year old Richard Nixon, "who asks you to place him a heartbeat from the presidency." Nixon won election as President twice.
Shirley Eugest
Thanks for the history lesson, PD. That Adlai guy with the hole in his shoe ran for president? Really? Actually, I was in fact aware that Nixon won twice, however. I just couldn't remember until now, though, whether he was a Democrat or a Republican. Thanks for setting me straight on that. It's so difficult to tell them apart these days - particularly in our own delightful little discussion. I guess the easiest way to tell is that the Democrats are the ones parroting talking points in lockstep, right?
What a sad way to spend a life: in front of a computer screen all day railing against all the simple minded, uninformed morons who fail to appreciate the brilliance of your worldview. Well, go ahead and have the last word here and then move on to all your other battles in the comments section. So many idiots, so little time.
standfast24
Lady de Rothschild is correct, her observations are accurate. It is impossible to dispute that Obama is not believer in far left policy and does desire an America transformed into a European welfare state. Unfortunately Hilary wanted much of the same, there really is no such thing as a moderate Democrat, just one less liberal.
Pelosi and Waxman run the party form safe districts whom would sooner elect Hugo Chavez than a Republican.
Obama out an out lied to the American people, aided and abetted by the MSM. Independents and moderates now have buyers remorse. The Democratic party is now unmasked to many who gave them a chance and now regret it.
Many don' want America to become a financial basket case like Greece or most of the EU.
junasie14
"Become" a financial basket case? We're well on our way after 8 years of a fiscally irresponsible Republican administration that squandered a budget surplus that was handed to them on a silver platter by the Democrats.
By the way, lines like "there is no such thing as a moderate Democrat", "would sooner elect Hugo Chavez than a Republican", and "the Democratic Party is now unmasked", are a dead giveaway of some serious paranoia. Do you think Obama is masked boggy man from Kenya with a secret plan to abolish the constitution? Are all the Democrats in on that conspiracy?
sharinlite
No, certainly! But a progressive with the destruction of the constitution and the freedoms it insures for your and me...well me, for sure, you write as if you don't care.
possumdearie
Look at the federal budget every year of the Bush administration, and then look at it from 2006 when the Democrats took over Congress. After TARP and the 2008 spending, the federal budget deficit tripled to a record $1.4 trillion for the 2009 fiscal year.
The unprecedented flood of red ink flows from several factors, including a big drop in tax revenues due to the recession, $245 billion in emergency spending on the Wall Street bailout and the takeover of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Then there is almost $200 billion in costs from President Obama's economic stimulus bill, as well as increases in programs such as unemployment benefits and food stamps.
The previous record deficit was $459 billion and was set just last year.
TruthWithoutFear
"Impossible to dispute that Obama is not believer in far left policy"? Quite the contrary, I could dispute it from now to eternity, chock-full of examples....but both you and Lynn Forester de Rothschild are such tiresome boors, that it would fall on deaf ears. Yawn... buh-bye boor.
Monk66
You'd have better luck talking to a brick wall.
anghiari
Ms.Moneybags de Rothchild hasn't been right since she divorced her first husband.
Thank you.
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