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Boehner: Climate Bill a 'Pile of Sh*t'
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Life was easier when you were in charge, wasn’t it John Boehner? The House Minority Leader and congressman from Ohio complained to The Hill that the climate bill passed by House Democrats on Friday is “a pile of shit.” When asked why he read aloud from the bill for an hour on the House floor, Boehner said, “Hey, people deserve to know what's in this pile of shit." The bill narrowly passed, 219-212, with eight Republicans voting for it.
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So is your work ethic you lazy "I don't think I will have time to tan my grapes because of my work load", bastard. The laziest man in Ohio's 8th everyone. What a shmuck.
During a recession, why not take out a whip and beat those struggling to survive with energy taxes. And how will we drive to work, if some can't afford gas? Why not find other ways to reduce our dependency on foreign oil thru innovation, hybrids, solar energy and biofuels? Innovative companies need government incentives such as tax breaks in order to create innovative solutions. That should be the goal. Oh I forgot, Obama wants the government to grow, not companies.
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out loud on the floor at a leisurely pace? yes, you are absolutely right! It was obviously an attempt to waste timme that could have been spent on: (take your pick laughorcry)
bravo! You called that one.
Only a democrat would consider actually reading a bill before voting on it to be "a waste of time."
As opposed to you Plantagenet-
Who would consider such moronic
And obvious posturing theatrics which
Have nothing to do with 'reading' the bill
As time well spent in the House?
Face facts, Rita squared
Try to be honest, if you dare
The dems are so stupid they pass through bills
Without bothering to read the bills, making them shills
I wonder if the people of Ohio have caught on to his flailing feces. Boehner The Complainer finds fault with everything the new administration is trying, but sat silent as the former administration ran up the debt, got us into two wars and allowed business, particularly banking and finance, to be reckless with other people's money.
While disagreement is a good thing. Throwing feces is dangerousan as the wind shifts it will all come flying back at him. I can't wait.
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Is your name "Nancy"?
Nancy Pelosi needs to step down. She is destroying out country with bills to oppress taxpayers who actually do work hard for what little the government lets them keep. Nancy is divisively partisan.......as she flies home with glee in her taxpayer paid jet.
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quite simply, because the amendment was finished until 2:59. It was a last minute addendum - a compromise. To gain the support of Peterson and the Ag committee, the bill needed to concede control of the offset program to the Department of Agriculture, not the EPA.
Last minute - Yes. Unread or unexpected? Hardly.
This bill has been released in draft form for months. Any citizen could have downloaded and read through it. In fact, its required by law. Its known as the notice and comment period. EVERY bill MUST go through one.
Don't be fooled by the red herring. EVERY CONGRESSMAN PRESENT KNEW EVERY PART OF THAT BILL. It went through over a dozen House committees and has been analyzed by the right and left for months. It has been hotly contested and both sides were trying to rally support up until the very end. Thats what Boehner was doing. Very savvy, in my opinion. By stalling, he is giving other congressmen in his party, as well as interested third parties, to continue hounding the fence-sitters.
Saying that there is not enough time to read through this is a complete DIVERSION. This bill was known through and through.
thank you, squid, for that cogent explanation. I think a sharp contrast can be made between this bill, ACES, and the PATRIOT act as far as congressional review
I love the way some people think that natural resources are endless, and that there is no ozone layer, that there is no global warming, that pollution is harmless, that we're not fishing the seas empty, that we can deforest the planet, that all this talk about protecting the enviornment "a pile of sh*t".
Makes you wonder who the real fecal matter is.
This is true, keepakeeper! Change is always difficult and in a democracy, it is usually "sloppy", but very necessary. I am sure this climate bill is like all bills that go through Congress--full of flaws. But the bill needs to pass. These do nothing Repugs just make me sick. I don't know why people can't work more toward change and progress. Change is disruptive, but is always necessary in the long run. The only certainty in life is change. We need to be a more progressive country. It is folly not be concerned with our environment and the extreme consumption of natural resources that we Americans are guilty of.
" I think you'll see a plan from us. Just like you've seen a plan from us on the stimulus bill and a better plan on the budget".
Majority Leader (at the time) John Boehner, in an interview with George Stephanopoulos on April 18, 2009.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2009/04/john_boehners_c/
Where are those plans? Why didn't you trot them out when you were Majority Leader? The answer, of course, is that like your party's health care initiatives, they consisted of thin air. (Could just as easily say "hot air").
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Do you really believe this clown didn't know what was in this bill? Where has he been for the last two months? They have been debating this, meeting with industry, and other concernend partys. I assume Boehner has a large staff like other congressmen to keep up on what is happening in congress. And this whole 300 page BS is just that. I don't know about you, but I can sit down and read a 300 page book in about 1/12 hrs. It didn't matter what was in the bill, the Party of NO was voting no anyways.
Bhonehead never had time to read it; he was too busy writing the amendments.
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What a Bonehead!
When two vowels go walking
The first one does the talking!
E-mail Boner's office at:
johnboehner.house.gov/Contact/
Ask them if Boehner read the Patriot Act before voting for it, and if he didn't read it why didn't he?!
Quite right.
Don't recall his reading from the "Patriot" Act for a full hour on the floor in the name of public edification/protest. Seems there's some sh*t he's very comfortable wallowing in. (Maybe that accounts for the disturbingly unnatural skin tone he's sporting?)
Vote them all out! Anything they come up with is going to be a pile of it, no doubt!
Not reading the bill before voting on it is standard table fare with the people in congress, and all the bills seem to be a piece of crap...read or not.
Note TARP, Auto Bailouts, Bank Bailouts, Stimulis Bill, now thart they start to read the damn things it gets a little scary.
Who the hell is going to pay for all these bills?
Think about it it's why they call them bills, and when the bills come due, it will be the taxpayers who will pay the bills.
This trade and cap bill will help break the bank, look at California as the model of how this type of government works.
Actually California is a good example of what happens when you try to do the right thing without a proper tax base. When you are afraid to tax the rich and business because they are the ones that pay for your campaign you drive the state and the country into a very dangerous place. It's time the people who benefit start paying for what they get - and don't fool yourself - I'm talking about the middleclass. I'm talking about the people who live off of the middle class in California - they have these wonderful money generators because of the attractiveness of California and if they don't pay to keep it attractive and I mean attracting intelligent, hardworking and educated people those businesses and rich will find their money generating abilities drying up and drifting away.
I agree, the more you have the more you have to lose so paying for the benefit of protection ie FDIC for money, police and fire for bigger and more expensive property, all the way down the line, the middle class have been hit hard, the poor and wealthy exempt. How much is health care worth to you? If you have a lot more to lose then you will pay for it. No loopholes! Redo tax structure to account for this! Flat tax would be good!
California is a terrific example of a stupid, corrupt and poorly managed state. It was the equivilent of the 7th largest economy in the world, and yet, they still mismanaged the money by being "daddy" to everyone and everything, and have done so for decades.
The people in California vote in representatives who make them "feel good" about the things they are going to "give them". However, when things go off course, which has happened during every Governors term they have had, the legislature never has to deal with the problems they created in the first place.
It all comes down to ovrespending by people who should never have that much in the first place. Come on, would you give your paycheck to your 4 year old to manage? Would you give it to a complete stranger? Well, that is what they do there. They give Billions to elected officials who stay for 4 years then either leave or get voted out, and also to unelected "appointees" to manage things that are too controversial to deal with.
California should be an example of what is great about our country, but it repeatedly shows irresponsibility in everything they do. Schools, drugs, energy, riots, naked bike rides, 1800 sq foot homes that cost millions, poor water supplies, sewage leaks into Santa Monica bay, gangs, overcrowded highways, social services that are an embarrassment to all, the list goes on and on.
Sorry all, but that is not what I want for our country. Freedom means doing the right thing for yourself and your family, not trying to force feed your ideals to everyone. Too much government to do "the right thing" is always what breaks the bank. I'll give to my causes, you give to yours. The government should only be the referee, and protect our borders. That is what the founding fathers had in mind, not creating a "rich uncle" to solve all of our worldly troubles.
Constitution, have you ever been to CA? Having been born and raised in CA and traveled to 27 other states during my life, with the exception of Florida, there's no other state in which I'd reside. There is no other place in the US where on the same day you can surf at 6am, be snow skiing at 11am, take in a game of any major sport, have any type of food in the world that you want for dinner and finish the night off at an amazing nightclub.
Our biggest mistake was, for the second time, voting into office an ex-actor (hack even) and thinking he'd be able to foresee or even deal with, the catastrophe Republicans would unleash on this country and the world. Economies everywhere are struggling because of the Bush years and events that really took root during Reagan.
Next time you decide to open your pie hole, try a big ol helping of "humble".
billyboy949
as an extremely long time resident of cal and at one point a budget director for a 200,000 city i can tell you exactly what the problem with cal and it's finances are, it's one party control. but i'm with you on all the nice things that are here. hope it lasts.
Boehner is a piece of sh*t; a big piece!
Boehner is correct. The bill is a mess of special interest payoffs.
A disgrace.
You've read the bill, or are you relying on what you've been told?
Have you read the bill, or are you relying on what you've been told? Hell, nobody has read the bill. That's part of the problem.
amen darrelb!
Boo hoo, Boo hoo, whine, whine, whine; that's all the Repukes have folks. They had 8yrs to put their great plans in place so f%!*off. The only thing they did was give carte blanche to every kind of business to suck the system dry.
This plan may not be the best, and it may be a pile of s*#t but Repukes didn't even have that.
Are you really adding to the dialogue here? Why don't you go post on the Daily Koz? That appears to be more your style.
Darrel-
If it were appropriate
To tell someone to go post somewhere else
Because I didn't like their opinion
I would have given you that advice
A while ago.
right be behind you rita, it's OK to give an opinion and it's OK to disagree but it's not OK to attack someone and tell them to get off, you know how I feel about it, I tell them to bugger off themselves!
Kilgore-Trout
Doesn't Boehner remind you of the cop, the ex-mayor and the Walmart story? Wasn't that the funniest line ever?
What amazes me is the decorum (or lack there of) with which the GOP legislators have presented their complaints. It is all well and good that they want to complain, but to go in front of cameras and all they have to say is "a pile of shit" seems to indicate that they don't know or care that their words are now part of the Public Record. When history is written about this time, one should wonder how these politicians will be described, certainly not "official spokespersons" for a group that supposedly stand for moral values or literate human beings.
Well said, afisher! Once upon a time (I remember it dimly from my youth) legislators used eloquence or sharp wit to make their disagreement known. Now they just sound like street thugs talking to their homies.
Does he ever do anything besides stand at that pulpit.And cry about stuff they should have been doing 8years ago.BOO HOO BOO HOO the shoe is on the other foot and its the wrong size for John.EAT CAKE pal its called mandate buddy get out the way or your going to be run over.........!
Mandate. Is that where we all get ______ in the ____?
No . . . That's where the __________ the Repugnantcons put up America's __________ gets removed and; seeing as rapists should never be allowed to reproduce (their suggestion, look it up), their __________ gets amputated. Unfortunately, since it's marketing that drives the debate, those Repugnantcons are still able to reproduce because of all the ____________ being crammed into students heads by the conservative coalition. ____________ like creationism and a healthy predisposition to bomb anything that isn't 'American'. When they didn't like the ___________ their 'educational program' produced they solved that ____________ by creating the 'cradle to jail' system making America the incarceration capitol of the World. Over 2 million served! What a pile of _________ these Repugnantcon programs are.
Now for the Demogagucrats . . . These are the 'great enablers' who made it possible for the Repugnantcons to create this massive pile of _________ in the first place. Meanwhile, we're all marching in place, losing precious time that would be better served by Progressive Statesmen creating enlightened tax policy (raising taxes on those most able to shoulder the load) and addressing the myriad of ills threatening their constituents and mankind as a whole. That's the only sort of ____________ that's really worth pondering at this point in our technological devolution. The rest is all the ____________ of distraction. Nero fiddles while the ____________ hits the fan. Isn't it time we brought an end to this ___________?
What the hell are you people talking about?
Well, Congressman John Boner is certainly living up to his name.
During the election Obama promised that bills would be posted on the internet for five days so people could read them and comment on them.
Now that Obama is actually president even the people in Congress don't get time to read them----instead, the democrats ram through hundreds of pages of laws that no one has even seen before.
Obama does not control congress, or what they post or don't post. The final bill is not even done yet. The Senate has yet to take it up. The white house doesn't have a finished bill yet to post before Obama was to sign it.
Got to love that transparency!
It's UP!!! follow the links!!!
See "angles81" 9:30AM, you'll learn something pertinent to this discussion.
The G.O.P is talking about rebranding the party. Why not start with cleaning the House Minority Leader's language. That will be a small step for Boehner, but a giant step for human kind. After washing his mouth with soap, then, perhaps he should really get down with the hard work of helping the President to cleaning up the environment after letting it went to hell for the last 8 years.
Sometime I wonder why the Republican party doesn't have some better leaders? The Republican party has a long and great history of accomplishment in this nation and yet somehow they have degenerated over the last 40 or 50 years into this Anti-American group of divisive, hypocritical old men.
Think of it - this is the party that supported Abraham Lincoln in freeing the slaves by committing to a civil war. What happened?
What happened is they decided to follow Rush Limbaugh over the cliff. They march in lockstep behind Boss Limbaugh and have reduced themselves to parrots of his inane, divisive, Anti-American rhetoric. Then came Fox and Hannity and O'Reilly and Glenn Beck, the man who cries and plays with dolls. These are the spokesmen for the republican party. Oh yeah, then there's Sarah...you betcha! And Joe the Plumber. And now we also have John "Pile of Sh*t" Boehner. Pathetic! But the bigger question is why anyone in their right mind would want to be a member of this gang of thugs? Rise up republicans...get rid of these buffoons, before your party totally self-destructs!
Joe the Plumber is now a registered independent :)
Most Republicans
Are now 'registered Independents'
Republican is out of fashion.
Yes, let's all refer to him now as John "the pile of shit" Boehner!!
Yes and we can call Pelosi "the Honorable Lying Piece of Shit"
The vulgar, inarticulate, "mean & hard drinking" politician who's prone to Loud, profanity in very public places - makes "Speaker Nancy Pelosi "look like an angel!" (True, without rebuttal even if you ASSUME she lied about the CIA.)
Boehner is absolutely right, the carbon tax is a pile of shit. It amounts to liberals shoving their religious beliefs (earth worship) down our throats. To pass something like this when the science has not even been finally determined is completely irresponsible.
I am not a particularly religious man but I certainly do prefer Christians to liberals. Christians try to persuade me; liberals pass laws to impose their beliefs on me.
Wait, is the science still out on the shape of the earth also?
you're kidding about liberalistic totalitarianism, right?
when was the last time a liberal tried to tell you:
-who you could marry?
-whether or not you must reproduce?
-who does and does not love our country?
-the only freedoms limited by this bill are the freedom to pollute without economic
sanction, the freedom to waste pooled resources, and the freedom to gouge the poor
and to imply that Christianity and liberalism are mutually exclusive, to generalize that all liberals are pagans, is just ridiculous!
Right. On.
Liberals are more into telling you to give them all your money, because they absolutely believe that what the government will do with your money is much better then what you want to do with your money.
Plantagenet-
You spent quite a bit
On that misadventure in Iraq.
Were you aware of that?
Ritarita
You don't even know how the government works.
The Congress controls all spending.
The democrats have controlled the Congress since 2006
---The democrats spent billions on Iraq
And continue to do so under Obama
In spite of the democrats promise to end the war in 2006.
Plantagenet-
I love discourse
And it's why we all post.
But when a response is so dishonest
As to border on delusion-
I just have to let go.
Sorry.
Are you joking? Who do you think passed Prohibition and the laws against abortion, just for starters? It wasn't the liberals.
Yeah, Darrel. You seem to think that the majority of the country wants to do something about global warming because of non-scientific reasons. Well, we're making decisions to DO SOMETHING based on science.
You also have science (we think it's junk science) that says global warming is not occurring due to CO2 emissions.
What if you and your science are wrong? Then we have world effects that are not recoverable. If we're wrong, all we've done is to free ourselves from foreign oil and developed new industries.
What if you and yours is wrong? Then all we have is a destroyed economy and a third world country.
over 31,000 American scientists say there is no global warming. Stop acting like it is settled when it is not. I would love nothing more than to get off foreign oil but this is not the way to do it.
http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php
Matt,
1) It seems that your petition originates from th Oregon Institute of Science and medicine which has no specialization in climate science.
2) I read the report on which the petition is based, it was published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, which, likewise, has no claim to expertise in climate science.
3)The petition claims to have no affiliation with any interest in the energy sector, but does not make that claim on behalf of its signitories.
4) The signitories are all American scientists, and this should be an indication of non-representative opinion in the world's scientific community
I would refer you, instead to the UN report on climate change from 2007
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-syr.htm
To sum up, 90% of the scientists involved agree that human activity has an impact on global warming.
To, to respond, what if YOU and other delayers of reform are wrong and we have already caused a catastrophy?
LOL you refer me to the UN IPCC. The most discredited report that there is. That was so cute. Do a search for Lord Christopher Monckton and see what he has to say. He is not even American which already lends him more credence than the 31,000 scientists that signed already. So nobody gets confused below is the list of fields of the signers. Many of these people signed on the basis that basic scientific principals are not being used in the pro-human involvement reports. Also on the FAQ page is the reason it was published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons. You may not have noticed that climate, green, and other pro-global warming type of publications are not open to other opinions. Those who dissent are called deniers and it is said that denying man made global warming is the same as denying the holocaust. Not very open to other people's opinions.
9. Why was the review article published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons?
The authors chose to submit this article for peer-review and publication by the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons because that journal was willing to waive its copyright and permit extensive reproduction and distribution of the article by the Petition Project.
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No, Matt. If we're wrong, then we have SHIFTED our energy sector to our own sourcing and created new industries in the process, just as I said.
If we reduce the level of oil consumption, then we're not dependent upon terrorist states (which I consider Saudi Arabia to be). True, Shell, Mobil, etc. get hurt, but they have it coming.
And there's no way we can shift the US consumer to small engined cars as long as gasoline is affordable, and that demand is VERY elastic. People will pay over $4 a gallon again, and the pressure will be upward.
Matt-
While you certainly can make a lengthy post in a mocking tone (which I appreciate), I still claim that because this petition
a) DOES NOT establish the credibility of the Oregon Institute of Science and medicine in this field
b) DOES NOT establish the the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons as having credibility to authoritatively conduct a peer review of this material. In my experience with open access journals, you get what you pay for.
c) DOES NOT list the employers of the "scientists" involved
So, in short, I'll take the UN report over yours unless you can show a more credible source, which you have not.
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certainly with that attitude.
That's exactly the point. If action isn't taken now, the conservatives will opt for the status quo, and the Arabs will be getting over 4 buck per gallon in short order. And keeping us over a barrel re supply.
Then we'll have trouble putting on wars, and the chickenhawks will really freak out and start calling for nook-you-ler ICBM's. I mean, we have to have SOMEBODY to beat the shit out of, no?
80% reduction would put our carbon emissions on par with what North Korea currently produces. That is working out great for us.
I wonder if Boehner learned that messing with your skin pigmentation can be hazardous to your health!
It's been found that UV-A rays reduce IQ levels.
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