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Clinton: Cheney Lacks Credibility
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Hillary Clinton has thrown off the gloves and jumped into the debate raging over the torture memos. Speaking at the House Foreign Affairs Committee today, Congressman Dana Rohrbacher of California pressed Hillary Clinton to persuade Obama to release all the relevant torture documents, as Dick Cheney has requested. "Well, it won't surprise you, I don't consider him a particularly reliable source of information," Clinton replied, eliciting laughter from the crowd. The congressman was not amused and pressed further, but Clinton only added that it was important to "get to the bottom of this entire matter."
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Hillary, YOU'RE AWESOME!!!
LOL!!!
Just to keep an clear understanding of what we're talking about, torture is always wrong. ALWAYS! Even if torturing one of these creeps did provide info, still wrong.
Define torture! Take a look at how congress has defined torture after 9-11. Educate yourself before you speak.
If you really what to split hairs "defining torture" then you've already demonstrated your lack of moral or ethical credibility.
Torture is having to listen to "Dubya" murder the english language for 8 years.
Oh, I made it past third grade shorty! So that puts me quite a bit higher than you in the intellectual arena. HAHAHAHAHHAHA!!
OMG... Did Hillary make a personal attack on Cheney. The question was about releasing documents, not if she trusted Cheney... Be honest and release the documents.
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lol go Hillary!
"Cheney lacks credibility." Well, that's putting it mildly. LOL
Hillary is awesome!!! Cheney needs to go back to the Death Star on the dark side where he belongs. He even breathes like Darth Vader....ha ha ha
Hillary is the weakest secretary of state ever in American history..Bring Back Condi Rice
hillary sucks
Hillary should have stayed in the Senate. She's hurting her credibility by aligning herself with Obama who is proving to be a disaster. Hillary should be President, speaking her own truth, not his.
I ranted against Bush/Cheney for 8 years, but Obama is proving to be worse than Bush. Far worse. Obama was wrong to release the "torture" memos. Very wrong. Hillary knows better.
"Obama is proving to be worse than Bush." Why? Because he is providing leadership? Because he has taken more action in the first 90 days of his presidency than Bush took in the first 6 months? And I'll bet he doesn't take a 5 week vacation like George did, while 911 was planned and implemented.
And BHO was not wrong to release the torture memos unless, of course, you think torture is a good thing and not a complete collapse of the moral platform of the USA.
roger37-
Obama "providing leadership" - you have got to be kidding. He takes his marching orders from the Democratic leadership and is warned not to step outside of their directions. On his world tour he spent more time putting down America and back stabbing Americans than any other American President has done before him - and that it saying alot considering the great likes of Clinton and Carter the two other baffoons of America. He checks with Soros in the morning to see what the 'master' wants him to do during the day - leadership is taking a stand and having a backbone to say things that need to be said and not kneeling at the alter of Soros, Pelosi and the boys.
You idiot! 9-11 was planned during the Clinton administration, trained during the Clinton administration...and unfortuneatly for 3000 people, carried out under the first months of Bush because the terrorist knew they had to act fast. You history rewriters really piss me off.
shortcourse, September 2001 was not exactly "the first few months" of Bush's term. By that standard, you would agree that no one should be judging Obama for anything yet since he hasn't been in office even half as long...
Hey, shortcourse: While the long term planning for 9-11 probably occurred when Clinton was still in office, the actual plans--flights, deployment of terrorists, boxcutter weapons, etc. certainly didn't take longer than 8 months.
And on August 8, interrupting his needed vacation after 7 long months on the job, George W heard the presentation of a Presidential Daily Brief that was headlined, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US." And he said to the staffer, "OK, you've covered your ass, now let's move along to something important."
And Grundy, you, as usual, make these wild accusations about Democratic leadership and George Soros and you don't have anything to back it all up. BHO is saying things that need to be said---like stopping torture, doing something about the economy (the Repub leadership wants to freeze spending, just like Hoobert Heever). You just don't like what it being said by BHO because you are too uniformed to understand basic economic theory.
Woops---that's "uninformed", not "uniformed."
He's going to Iowa for "Earth Day"..Couldn't he find an event in D.C....Every time he hops on Air Force One his "carbon footprint" grows
POST POLICE
Mr. tiotom77
I'm sorry sir
This is identical
To the Earth Day post
You left this morning
am 9:29
On POSEURS blog.
Worse than Bush? Wow, the honeymoon is definitely over.
Way to go, Hilary! She went to my high school and I'm really proud of her. She's doing exactly what she did when she was elected Senator from NY-- keeping her head down and doing the work without excess showboating.
Cheney needs to exposed for the lunatic that he is.
Right, no showboating at all. Flinging childish insults at the former vice president isn't showboating, it's . . . uh . . . it's . . . oh, I know, it's mature dialog.
Gimme a break.
You have to be joking, right? Cheney goes on Faux News over and over to attack the administration on every level and you don't find that to be "flinging childish insults?" Keep on practicing your lockstep.
Hillary's bashing vice dictator while her husband is holding hands with the dictator you know what they say about the brotherthood right bill and george once a freemason always a freemason.They always come to one another's rescue it does'nt surprise me.
Enough with the freemason stuff, already! Nobody cares.
And learn how to write without run-on sentences. Takes too long to decipher your posts.
Right....... and Clinton has credibility? LOL
always depend on the stupidity of the American people and their long term memory losses...
tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth...
the slogan of the current American society
Did a Clinton mention credibility ?
Clinton talking about credibility issues is truly a laugh.
He is a better standup comedian than a statesman.
Right, because whenever I hear the word "credibility," the first thing I think of is a Clinton.
(Does she have any idea at all how stupid she sounds? Guess not.)
Your comment says more about you that her.
Credibility on the part of the Clintons? Well, Kenneth Starr (remember him?) spent over $70 MILLION trying to prove that Bill and Hillary did something illegal while they were in Arkansas and when they were in the White House.
And Starr, that legal luminary, came up with Bill shtupping an intern. Bill Clinton's sexual proclivities were well known before that, and they didn't find anything else. And they found zero on Hillary, regardless of what the loony-tunes Richard Mellon Scaife sycophants say. Zero. So put your money where your mouth is when it comes to Clinton credibility, or crawl back into your hole somewhere in the Slave States and wait for the South to rise again.
They found zero on Hillary? How quickly we forget "whitewater" - get a clue roger37.
joe
What did they
Find
On Whitewater?
I'm sorry I missed that
Could you elaborate?
Hey, joefrat: That's the whole point, fahchrissakes! They spent $70 mil, starting with Whitewater, and they couldn't find zip! So you get a clue, schmuck.
Torture will not make any friends overseas, and today, international cooperation is really necessary to solve some of the most pressing issues in the world such as malaria, measles, and malnutrition. The Borgen Project has good info on the estimated cost of ending global poverty:
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.
$1 billion in US aide to Africa last year.
Make that $100 billion in aide to Africa 2008.
Isn't it time for Cheney to go back to his undisclosed location. I sure do miss that part of the Bush Adminstration
Carter or Clinton never went away, Hope fully others will join Cheney and let the world know how right they were. Just wait until the first pizza parlor blows up in America,
See this is the problem. A small minority of you have convinced yourselves that "they were right" while the rest of us and the world shake our heads in pity that you just don't get it.
"Just wait until the first pizza parlor blows up in America"
Hey brightboy-dollars to doughnuts it won't the super scary mocha skinned Arab of your nightmares. The next act of home-soil terrorism is going to come from some hysterical right wingnut, armed to the teeth and pushed to the brink by douchbags (Cheney, O'Reilly) and dipshits (Hannity, Beck).
am sure cheney's "proof" of the efficacy of torture (and this from someone who had 7 deferments from the vietnam war) is in the safe with his "proof" saddam had weapons of mass destruction and his "proof" saddam was behind 9/11.
How soon we forget. No one was complaining about interrogation techniques right after 9-11. One of the reasons that we were attacked was because the CIA had it's hands tied for so many years. We have to let the CIA do their job. If we start to prosecute them for doing their job - they won't do it. The de-classification of this information is a huge mistake. The terrorists are loving this. We are creating a perfect storm of enraging the masses and showing our weakness at the same time. Hillary must have read another poll that suggestted that it was a good day to attack Cheney. What will the Democrats do when they totall exhaust this routine of bashing Bush/Cheney? Eventually they will have to do something besides spend money.
I seem to recall that one of the reasons we were attacked is that we didn't follow up on information that our FBI was gathering. Another reason: our "President" failed to take any action when alerted about the likelihood of an attack. (This was in all the papers. There were photos, too. It was even on TV. Though maybe not on Fox News.)
Regardless of any enthusiasm for torture among a populace driven to fear by unsubstantiated terror alerts, it's the job of our leaders to do the right thing. As an example, some may harbor a strong desire to see Bush and Cheney tortured but that doesn't justify someone actually doing it. (Simply putting them on trial for war crimes will suffice.)
There used to be a saying "better dead than red." This supposedly expressed the belief that being "free" was worth sacrificing one's life. I believe that if we start to act like our enemies we become what we are trying to defend against. If we have to do that to survive then we have truly slipped a few rungs on the ladder of enlightenment.
And I'd rather be a dead human than a living animal.
Right on.
While Hillary is pressing Obama to release more documents, maybe Barack can look around for those old Rose Law Firm documents. They should be in one of the White House closets - Ya' Think?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/etc/01301996.html
The Congressman
Thinks
He can out tough
Hillary.
Really.
Hillary's got the
Tshirt pal.
Rita - cmon get a clue. I was glad the congressman said what he did. It showed he could think on his feet. He wasn't trying to act tough. Hillary was the one trying to act tough. Also, your verse is tired - say what you feel like a normal person.
Joecunt I like Ritas verse its catchy and unique, better than your idiotic rants, gee I wonder if the reb congressman can tie his own shoes too, and as to the reworking of your nick being an old fraternity boy myself I felt compelled to make a play on your nick, frat is as derogatory to us as calling your country a cunt to you, but with citizens like you I dont think thats too out of line.
The tshirt, the shoes, the matching earrings, the purse, and the designer jacket to go with it. Hillary is one tough cookie. If Cheney or Bush had to endure the deluge of criticisms Hillary has put up with they'd be crying in a corner wishin' fo momma.
Absolutely but they would never let it get that far to begin with. That's the difference.
First the Repugs rail against the public disclosure of ANY memos on torture; now Cheney wants them ALL exposed. I think he's bluffing because there's no way that Darth Vadar is going to come off looking better if all the details are exposed.
The corruption in the Bush/Cheney Justice Dept. will continue to trickle out over the next 4 years. There's plenty of ooze to come and plenty of time for future charges against the last administration.
I don't understand all the hate for Clinton. What exactly has she done that discredits her? Voting for the Iraq War?
Hillary's awesome. And if anybody can speak with authority on the subject of men lacking in credibility....
Hillary hasn't really found her voice as Secretary of State but manages to go after Cheney. Old habits die hard.
He's like a mosquito that keeps buzzing around your ear. The urge to swing at it is second nature. It is Cheney's choice, if he would retire... it wouldn't happen.
hardrain:
"'Just wait until the first pizza parlor blows up in America'
Hey brightboy-dollars to doughnuts it won't the super scary mocha skinned Arab of your nightmares. The next act of home-soil terrorism is going to come from some hysterical right wingnut, armed to the teeth and pushed to the brink by douchbags (Cheney, O'Reilly) and dipshits (Hannity, Beck).
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Uh, you should be careful how you talk about rightwing nuts. You come off just like one.
I really do enjoy watching the right wing nut sacks spinning round and round as they plumet deeper down the drain. The great news is, that after 16 years of Democratic Party rule ( 8 with Obama and 8 with Hillary ), most will have died off !! Extinct like the dino's!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!
No, they will grow up in poverty and have to fight for their right to earn and keep it, just like the rest of us. They will fight taxes and they will learn about money and the way the world really works or they will stay in poverty. Very simple.
They will not. That is Republican propaganda and you know it. The Republicans haven't done such a wonderful job.
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