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Did Hasan Act Alone?
Two days after Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly opened fire on soldiers at Fort Hood, numerous questions remain as to his motive and planning, beginning with whether or not he acted alone. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) told The New York Times that Army officials are investigating “if there is something more than just one deranged person involved here," while officials have so far not publicly ruled out whether Hasan may have been connected to outside persons or groups in orchestrating his attack. A law-enforcement official told the Times that so far searches of Hasan's computer have turned up no direct exchanges with known terrorists. Hasan, who survived the attack and is in custody, is reportedly comatose and has yet to be questioned.
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Yeah there's more than just one deranged person here, there's an idiot senator wasting our time.
Terrorism of this sort can easily occur without being personally directed by some terrorist mastermind in Al Qaida. All that is necessary is for fundamentalist Muslims to believe that the Koran instructs them to stand with their fellow Muslims in the Ummah and fight against non-Muslims, and that the Koranic injunctions take precedence over any loyalty they might have to the United States.
Give it up, who cares what you clog this site up with, it is not interesting.
All that is necessary is for fundamentalist Christians to believe that the Bible instructs them to stand with their fellow Christians and fight against liberals, and that the Biblical injunctions take precedence over any loyalty they might have to the United States.
See how easy it is to take your "logic" plant and have it come out as something that fundamentalist Christians right-winger tea-baggers might say?
Now that is interesting oaklynne. Thanks.
Hi Oak:
The only problem with your comparison is that there actually are American, British and EU Muslims who actually travel to Somalia, Afghanistan, and Pakistan and actually train with Al Qaida and actually fight with their "Ummah" against the USA and its allies and actually do terror attacks, while the evil Christians you are fantasizing about exist only in your fevered imagination.
Cheers!
oaklynne-
plantarwart can't make his case, all he did was repeat what she said initially which is par for the course. An authentic bigot.
plant, my imagination isn't fevered, and fundamentalist chrisitians don't need to travel abroad to do their acts of terrorism. They can get plenty of training right here in the good ol' usa.
Uhhhmm, Americans have invaded, killed and shamed Arabs and Muslims and Persians en masse for the last 50 years. In pursuit of Oil and Zionist interests, American political and military intervention - and mass slaughter - in the middle east is the cause of 'terrorism'. Osama Bin Landed became a terrorist because of US military occupation of Saudi Arabia - his 'holy land'. A 'terrorist' attack on US Marine installation in Lebanon is not really terrorist - if you put Marines in my country I would assault them as well and I can assure you that I would be hailed as a hero, much like if the Chinese were to occupy Hawaii and some local rednecks were to attack. The US backed Saddam when he was evil, sold him billions in weapons and WMDs and pushed him into war with Saddam, killing 500 000 and destroying both countries. The US overthrew the only ever real democracy in Iran in 1952 - and installed a King (the 'Shah'), resulting in militant fervor providing fertile ground for an Islamic revolution. The American attitude that middle easterners are somehow to stupid to not know they are being derided, or that an American life is worth 10x Arab lives is both wrong and stupid. We all know how bat-crazy Americans get when their pride is insulted - then why do Americans have such a hard time understanding that they they tread on other peoples turf that those people will go to any length to free themselves. In this area, Americans are haplessly hypocritical. Ironically, I do believe that most Americans mean well, but we all know the saying about 'the road to hell'.
cbeenthere, you're right. the plant spouts right-wing talking points but logic escapes her.
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All a result of America's AIPAC "War on Islam" --"perpetual war for perpetual peace"
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129654
Some deaths and human beings matter much more than others?
There is a mountain of evidence against G.W.Bush and Tony Blair etc. etc. that would incriminate any leader of a non powerful country as a war criminal hands down.
Rabbi Perin: "A million Arabs are not worth one Jewish fingernail"
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/110207b.html
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We should..as President Obama rightly concluded.."Not jump to conclusions.." Not for instance like the great hypocrite himself did when condeming Cambridge police when his pal was arrested for abusive and confrontational conduct towards them when questioned. Remember that tidbit?? Obama had NO information..yet reflexively criticized on a national stage officers conduct and professionalism. Now we have...by a multitude of accounts..including a live interview I heard with a fellow Fort Hood Officer about Hasan's anti American comments and verbal support for the violence at the Arkansas recruiting center...
But of course..how ignorant I am! Hasan is a Muslim and those Cambridge officers..who didn't bad mouth America..or shoot anyoe..are just disgusting Christians. He deserves our fullest measured response.
I wonder how the press will handle it IF it turns out the extensive internet examination of Hasan's activities turns up co-conspirators who have terrorist Muslim connections?
There is no evidence, but it will be manufactured and believed by True Believers, like Kenyan birth certificates and other props.
Even if Hasan isn't in contact with foreign terrorists, that doesn't change the fact his mass murder attack is an act of domestic terrorism.
Oh, so now all of a sudden it is?
That's right since Geo. Bush said is was 'cause they tried to kill his Dad.
plant, you have no use for facts, admit it. you just like makin' stuff up. it's what passes for intellect amongst you trolls.
Isn't the point of this thread to consider the possibility of there being accomplices? Your logic is flawed because it is filled with hatred and anger. You don't like Obama? That's your right but it's not your right to condemn him. If you have some pertinent info then you should tell whomever you report to and have it passed along. Your hatred is so pervasive that nothing you say can be taken at face value. That's the long form....the short form is STFU until you have real facts.
Having grown up in a state where some people owned as many as 15 guns I learned to shoot and hunt at a very early age. Gun ownership was and is a right to most of us. However, now with the population, financial and other stress significantly higher gun ownership can be dangerous. Any stressed out crazed person with a gun in his or her hand is a potential killer. In this sense, any society that would allow these people to have guns is an accomplice in murder and there will be a never ending number of shooting outbursts in our society. Oh, but it's the person and not the gun you say that does the killing? I can agree with your assessment; it's the person. However, it is my assessment that I have lived with guns all my life and do not want guns in the hands of "sheeple". They are dangerous people on any terms and when they are crazed and stressed out with a gun in their hands the results have been catastrophic. Since I have to live with these explosive people I'd rather be able to confront them on equal terms and not with them having a gun and me not, (I don't carry a gun). Or maybe it is also your assessment that we should all carry a gun in a holster and learn to "quick draw", always being paranoid about where the next shot may come from and ready to shoot back. Wouldn't that be a great way to live? Issue guns to all the "sheeple"; teach them to shoot and carry a gun. Have a great life!!!!!
You've already posted this elsewhere. It's really not necessary to keep posting the same thing over and over. Those interested have read it. Those not interested don't care. You're such a sheeple!
OK, since you are a special person I will no longer post it.
Again to everyone wounded,to those who lost their lives, to the brave officer, and to all the soldiers on the base and everyone,,all their families and loved ones,my sincerest,condolences and appreciation, You make us proud to be americans,US citizens. Something that gets clouded in all the arguing of everuday. Left or right, we are americans,USA.What a horrible, event what has happened.!
Alone? No, he was accompanied by Allah's pedophile racist messenger, just like an angel on his shoulder...
For future reference, when devout Muslims shout Allahu Akhbar and murder innocent Americans, let's not immediately reject the tiny possibilty of malign Islamic influence....
Has the media ever been worse in this nation?
Obama is weirdly obsessed with his nightly battle with the commentators on Fox TV, and you expect him to be able to spare a thought for Islamic domestic terrorism and mass murder attacks on Americans?
That's pretty funny coming from someone who is obviously "weirdly obsessed" with his daily battle with logic and reason.
Plantagenet, did you not hear President Obama speak early in the afternoon of the shootings, saying that all America should be thinking of those who have been wounded and died, saying that to have soldiers killed in battle was terrible, but this was more horrible as it happened in America. I can't repeat it word for word, but if you think he isn't sparing any thought to any form of domestic terrorism and mass attacks on soldiers, I want to know just how deeply immeshed you are in denial of all that is good and decent about this president.
It is frightening how biased, how down to the bone mean your posts often are.
President Obama is no weirdly obsessed, that title belongs to you Plantarwart.
By the by maladapted your post of yesterday prompting someone to commit suicide was deleted by the editors, so you are on notice for your hateful posts.
Anyone who would commit suicide over anonymous posts should indeed commit suicide.
Hey mal, good work and my apologies to all the 10 year olds for the following: What? Are you a 10-year old. Your posts are incredibly offensive but do keep them up so you can get yourself off this site. You are one of those people who would go on a killing rampage -- you are maladapted -- is Hitler your hero?
Your remarks go so far over what is acceptable. Do you embrace Islam? Would you want your god demeaned in that matter. Are you that pissed off at that Garrido fellow who kidnapped an 11 year old girl and raped her? You would serve your own cause much better not to show your racist, homophobic self so openly. You're just as bad as the shooter and much scarier.
This incident puts to rest the gun-nut notion that a well armed society can protect itself against a lone gunman.
A civilian police officer stopped the gunman in this case, but only after she herself had been shot.
The number of shots fired and the number of people hit may indicate that it was a bloody bullet festival with everyone shooting at everyone else. Some of the dead may have been killed by "friendly fire."
Whether lone gunmen are becoming more common is in question.
But what is evident is that the lone gunman has become more and more deadly. The lone gunman is able to kill more people before being stopped or before they end their own life.
Large caliber handguns that hold a lot of bullets are what gun-nuts love.
Good to see you've stopped your attacks on the intelligence of the military victims at Fort Hood. John Kerry might get away with attacking the intelligence of our soldiers as they go off to fight, but it was in pretty bad taste for you to do it right after they were murdered in cold blood.
No one, but no one handles issues as poorly as you do plantarwart. Ask anyone who posts here.
Thanks for knocking down that Straw Man, planted one.
John Kerry is a genuine bona fide and well documented Vietnam war hero
So Plant, you must be in heaven today. All these folks commenting on your post. It's the attention you crave. You don't even care if they agree with you or shoot you down; nope, it's just the attention. Having a good day, eh?
Several of the surviving victims who were interviewed said that the clinic waiting room was packed with "unarmed" people. Hassan was the only one with weapons.
Other than MP's and Private Security/Police, regular soldiers dont walk aroung base with weapons
That would be walk around...versus aroung..:-)
Thanks slmpirate, I simply would not have understood that post without your clarification. Wow.
Thanks hfb, I live for your approval.
Anyone that shouts 'allahu akbar' and starts killing Americans is a religious terrorist. Whether with a gun or as a suicide bomber in a crowded mall, it is religious terrorism. The sanity of the killer is questionable, but so is the sanity of anyone that believes they have a divine right to kill anyone that doesn't agree to bow down and join their religion or let their religion dictate to them.
We cannot afford to appease any particular belief system, whether of a religious, political, race, gender, etc. orientation, which puts rights of believers of that tenent above anyone else. Islamic terrorists kill anyone, including other Islamic believers, so long as they can create terror in others to try to cause them to give up and accept Islam.
I agree dahniuru. But that reasoning only appeals/applies to reasonable people. The haters only see that a Muslim did this horrible thing and then hate all Muslims and that's where the problem begins and ends in other hate crimes. Just because you're right in your assessment doesn't change the fact that you need to be careful with that information and to whom you tell it to in order to protect the lives of innocent people.
Any christer that blows up an abortion clinic is a terrorist.
christer nut-job Eric Rudolph is a terrorist, and an honorably discharged US military moron.
The sad fact is that in a building of people paid and trained to react to situations JUST LIKE THIS failed miserably in what was a very limited attack.
Did US military morons have their weapons with them? Irrelevant.
The US military morons are paid and taught to repel any attack using any means available.
Had several US military morons rushed the gunman he would have been subdued before he killed others.
But what happened was far more typical. Panic, fear, and confusion.
Does anyone think that deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan will be any better? Will the firing lines be more clearly drawn? Will friend and foe be easier to identify?
In a simple case of one lone gunman against an entire army the lone gunman survived.
It is clear that the leaders of the US military morons, Westmoreland, Haig, Boorda, Kelso, etc., are also US military morons.
Stop wasting US taxpayer $$$TRILLIONS$$$ on the "special education" of US military morons.
You know what you proved in your rant....you're the MORON here.
Slightly more tact might yield a warmer reception. There are plenty of morons not in the US military, as well. Insinuating the troops were ill-prepared is one thing. I assure you if you call them morons, you will be listened to by virtually no one. Just thought you should know.
George and Laura Bush went to visit the injured from Fort Hood and asked not to release their visit to the press.
Obama said very little on this terrible attack. Obama is quick to condemn a police officer that was doing his duty, but when presented the facts he is slow to condemn a terrorist act on American soil.
The Bushes live in Texas and are basically retired now. Of course they've already visited. Good for them for going and not seeking press although Bush has been keeping a very low profile since leaving office anyway.
Obama has already condemned the shootings so you can stop pretending he's giving them some kind of tacit approval. He made a mistake a few months ago in commenting to an off the cuff question about the Harvard incident before he knew the facts and hopefully he's learned from that and he's letting the investigators do their job before he says too much. We don't know if this _was_ a terrorist act or a lone crazy yet.
Not true - Obama has already spoken out at least twice very publicly on the issue, maybe you should come out from your mental cave. And oh - I guess that you must be a close friend of the Bush's to know that they did the visit because that's the only way you would know if the media was not informed. Or more likely it was leaked to the media, you read it on a website, which makes you look like a clown blurting obvious hypocritical folly in the span one one sentence.
Thank you.
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