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Edwards' Staffers Plotted Against Him
John Edwards' reputation hit a new low Sunday, as ABC's George Stephanopoulos revealed that senior members of the former North Carolina senator's 2008 campaign eventually came to believe rumors that he was conducting an extramarital affair—and created a "doomsday" strategy they plotted to use against him, should he get close to winning the Democratic nomination. The staffers, recognizing the importance of the election, decided they would sabotage the campaign before allowing Edwards to become their party's nominee for president. They justified their plans by reasoning that "they were Democrats first," Stephanopoulos reports. Commentator George Will, appearing on This Week, raised a question in many people's minds: "Think about what a tragedy it would have been if he had won?"




dixie-chik
What a parochial society we live in.
kansasrefugee
I agree. This is abysmal primitive behavior, where people are apparently "catering to the top dog" in order to keep their jobs and in the process a huge wasteful campaign was conducted. I applaud these folks for not doing anything at all, but I am Democrat and am appalled that they let things go on as long as they did.
spinozareader
Amen! (Irony intended.)
kansasrefugee
LOL
ritamary
Edwards starts a new family while his wife has incurable cancer? Criticizing this behavior makes us parochial? I guess I am parochial then. I voted for him in the California primary but now I despise him.
citivas
incurable?
sophieozz
George Will is so prissy.
kansasrefugee
I agree - I am not a fan. He seems to think he's better than everyone and he has no compassion that I've ever seen. That being said, he does sometimes make some points worth listening to, but they then need heavy editing.
Ritarita
I'm a big fan
Of the way he
Says any crazy pants
Thing
Off the top of his head
Whether it can be
Substantiated
Or not.
SlaveRevolt
But Obama might be a fan of George Will. Remember that Obama had a very special dinner at George Will's home.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/17/AR200901 1702690.html?wprss=rss_politics%2Fcongress
Also in attendance? "William Kristol, another prominent conservative and the editor at the Weekly Standard as well as a columnist for The New York Times. Joining Kristol were David Brooks of The New York Times and Charles Krauthammer of The Washington Post."
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/01/14/1002244/political-tidbi ts-obama-dines-with-jewish-c
Not that this should come as a surprise as Obama himself is plainly a neo-con anyway.
SlaveRevolt
The second address should be
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/01/14/1002244/political-tidbi ts-obama-dines-with-jewish-c
For some reason this blog tends to cause it to skip a space in an address when somebody posts more than one web link.
SlaveRevolt
It did it again. Well just take the address if you're so inclined and paste it onto your address bar, then backspace once towards the end to make it say "tidbits" with no space dividing the word. Somebody please work this bug out of the blog, as it makes it a hassle.
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n--Y--LordVaderSlaveRevolt
I believe that's a racial slur used against people of Irish descent.
JD92840
All members of Congress should be forced to sign a morals agreement.
Write bad checks, sexual affairs outside the marriage, DUI's, drugs, you name it, violate the morals agreement, lose your position in office immediately, not questions asked!
Then lets see how many people choose to run for office or actually hold office for very long.
spinozareader
Joe McCarthy would be proud. And the House and Senate would be nearly emptied (because most of their members are flawed human beings like the rest of us).
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n--Y--LordVaderSlaveRevolt
I really doubt that waterboards are in any way "now redundant".
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n--Y--joebloekansasrefugee
I agree with everything you say except with having no problem with how long they let it go on. What about all the campaign contributors and workers and primary voters who were duped into thinking this was a legitimate campaign with a mentally & emotionally healthy, responsible candidate?
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n--Y--joebloeSlaveRevolt
Yep, nobody better to keep poverty in the national spotlight than a guy who lives in a mansion and gets $400 haircuts and got onto the ticket in 2004 because of his speech which so impressed his fellow Bilderbergers that they just had to let him be Kerry's # 2 to help him do his damndest to lose the election to the (other, out of the closet) neo-cons Cheney and his ventriloquist dummy Bush, another example of how the elite controls both increasingly similar sides of American politics.
John Edwards, man of the people. If by people one means the uber-wealthy polo-playing yacht club set of people that is.
Banjo1
I hope nobody forgets how the MSM decided early on that this wasn't a story. It took the stubborn digging of the National Enquirer to bring this to light. Want to bet somebody in the Edwards campaign tipped the tabloid after the NYTimes and the rest of the "elite" media built a stone wall around the story?
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n--Y--omCrosssaramed
Although I don't think an extramarital affair should disqualify someone from any particular job, I recognize that there is a big enough portion of the American electorate that disagrees with me on that. So I was furious that Edwards let himself continue, knowing full well the lengths to which Republicans would be willing to go to dig up dirt on him. He risked the most important election in my lifetime and for that I'll never forgive him and never support him again. A big thank-you to his staffers for realizing that their duty to the voters trumps their loyalty to their boss.
kansasrefugee
I am a Democrat and I agree with what you say in large part but I believe that this is not really about "morality" but about adult mental & emotional health and keeping your word. Edwards has problems with all of these: (a) if he & his wife had an agreement of monogamy between them, which they apparently did, he unilaterally violated this in some sort of arrogance, (b) if he is too lacking in self-awareness and understanding of primitive female and male behavior to fall into Rielle Hunter's inane seduction, he is not adult enough to be President and (b) if he can't take responsibility for knowing himself whether he spent campaign funds on Rielle Hunter (and instead says this is "government's job") he is also not adult enough to be President.
shortcourse
So what does disqualify someone from a particular job? Being a child molester...how about animal sex...or a rapist...maybe a just a little homicide...Edwards killed ideals, hopes and faith of many who trusted him. He raped the system, and screwed the people who supported him. And for the record, it wasn't Repubs that dug up dirt, it was the relentless work of a news rag that make money selling sensationalism. So what is it about the American voter that keeps supporting bags of crap! That goes for both sides of the political system. Part of the reason dems are in power is that the conservative voters figured out that we were being screwed to the wall by people we sent to fix it!!! How many months/years will it take for the libs to wake up (like the Edwards supporters) and figure out they too are being screwed out of their liberty and their childrens prosperity!
kansasrefugee
Huh? I am advocating adult mental & emotional health - how does that equate to animal sex, rape or homicide? Please listen more carefully before you start ranting about something I say, anyway..
I agree that Edwards used and exploited the system and his wife appears to have done some of the same and/or aided & abetted him. Well, at least we know he passed his genes onto (probably) 4 kids.
SkyeBlue
How come his staff didn't simply confront him? Why all this "doomsday scenario" stuff? Now his staff looks as ridiculous as JE does....
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n--Y--LordVaderSlaveRevolt
Or perhaps they knew that by confronting him (if it went public) it would end his campaign and they'd be out of their jobs working for it, wanting to remain as parasitic suckerfish attached to their candidate as long as possible?
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n--Y--Banjokellmilkman57
Who cares?? He lost regardless of his affair. His affair had nothing to do with his loss. This is old news. As to George Will I would say that George Bush was a national tragedy and he never had an affair with anyone as far as I know. Edwards might have been embarrassed but he wasn't elected to anything so who cares?
baptox
Amen, milkman. But we don't want to think of our politicians as sexual beings, especially if their sexuality is expressed outside of their marriage. Despite the fact that the majority of American men and a hell of a lot of American women have extra-marital affairs,it is easier and more in keeping with our Puritan heritage to pretend that politicians are not like the rest of us in this regard.
As a result, we end up with asexual weasels like Georgie- boy Bush, who felt compelled to express his machismo by invading other countries and torturing people.
Will we, the electorate, ever grow up?
BTW, I am tired of seeing these cheesy, staged romantic moments between the Obamas. Who falls for this stuff? Have they no dignity? Really, I love the Obamas but it makes me wonder if their marriage is a sham. They seem compelled to present such a juvenile, exhibitionist and sanitized version of their marriage. It not only becomes distracting and rings false, but it makes me question if they understand the seriousness of the office and the overwhelming problems facing the world.
kansasrefugee
haptox
The Obamas are consummate politicians. I do think the are very aware that people can see them holding hands and him being a "there" father. I think there is often a self-conscious and staged feeling to it but I think it's the best you can get. I can't imagine anyone being able to be truly unselfconscious with all those cameras and other observers focused on them. And if they were, I'd be kind-of worried about their intelligence?
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n--Y--LordVaderRitarita
Sorry
Got to disagree
I think the Obamas
Are for real.
And I can usually smell
2 parts per million.
SlaveRevolt
RitaRita,
I would agree if by "for real" you mean really figureheads for the powerful moneyed interests pulling the strings in American politics. But a for real change agent? Come on, the evidence is all around you that this guy is a puppet, just a stooge for the neo-conservatives and a neo-con himself.
How many more things does he have to blatantly sell out on or tinker around the margins and call it change? How many other neo-cons/other Republicans/"New" [fake] Democrats/Bilderberg Group/Council on Foreign Relations/Trilateral Commission/A.I.P.A.C. tools have to be appointed by Obama('s handlers) before you see that he's just a tool himself of the same people, the elite? Just because someone stands in front of a lectern with a slogan like "Change you can believe in" plastered on it doesn't mean that he's really there to change anything in any meaningful way. He's President Window Dressing.
jrewing78
I for one am delighted to see that even the people who worked for this disingenuous smarmy piece of dog turd realized that he shouldn't be president.
SlaveRevolt
"Think about what a tragedy it would have been if he had won?"
Bwahahahahahahaha. Oh that's funny. Yes, as if it would have made any difference one way or the other. Any major presidential candidate of either party is nothing but a controlled marionette for the elite. Come on America, grow the hell up. The vast mass of Americans out there who aren't wealthy have exactly no candidate and no party to fight for their interests. Which is precisely the way the elite wants it.
vchaircis
Edwards may be wealthy now, but he's the son of a Union Coalminer from West Virginia. And yes he was able to keep poverty in the national spot light because of his wealth and stature. Who was supposed to hold the spot light? Some broke starving person? Who listens to them, honestly?
oliverckerr
John Edwards was in favor of the little guy. The little guy should be in charge, new directions nude erections and all the wrest. But J.E. couldn't win regardless because the country liked his wife and the American people, in consideration of her cancer, simply could not bear going through her wasting away - then a state funeral for our dead first lady everyone liked so much before we found out she was just the female version of little guy J..
SlaveRevolt
Not necessarily a broke starving person but someone who for example might have enough money to be doing fine and instead live in a more down-to-earth, modest manner using the rest to do something more worthwhile like print leftist literature to leaflet somewhere or something more useful than living a lifestyle of bourgeois decadence then pretending to identify with the working man when he's campaigning. Maybe you missed the part that I mentioned about him being a puppet of the Bilderberg Group. The guy's as phony a liberal as he is a husband. He's another marionette like the rest.
vchaircis
Hey SlaveRevolt, check out the Working Families Party.
SlaveRevolt
Thanks for the idea, I just checked them out. They unfortunately seem to be much too incrementalist, bound to the idea of improving the conditions of their wage slavery rather than ending the slavery itself.
It sounds like they're on the right track but are way too timid in their goals so they could really only be one of two things: 1.a party from top-to-bottom full of good, honest workers who want what they think is in the best interests of the working class/working poor/desperately poor but haven't yet expanded their consciousness to such a degree as to be able to understand the whole scope of the class struggle and instead are focusing on a smaller aspect of it, or conversely they know that the people need far better and far more meaningful, radical changes to be made to completely upend the entire status quo to remake it in such a manner that it's designed around what's best for the average worker, but feel that they would all be assassinated if they tried so they neuter their objectives and try to get what minimal, incrementalist b.s. improvements that they can;
or 2.just another cutout "leftist" micro-party sponsored by the elite, like the C.P.U.S.A., for the dual purposes of channeling sentiment for radical change into avenues "safe" and controlled by the elite and also as a tool for their operators controlling it to find out by who identifies with it (thinking it's genuine) who the more radical leftists are.
But either way they are not advocating anywhere near what's necessary. But I thank you for the suggestion.
Thank you.
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