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First Pot Cafe Opens in Portland
Rip City took its first step toward Ripped City on Friday when the Cannabis Cafe, the first marijuana cafe in the United States, opened for business. Taking over a space once home to a speakeasy and an "erotic club" called Rumpspankers, Eric Solomon, the cafe's owner, plans on serving marijuana free over the counter to members who pay a $25 monthly fee. Oregon, which allows the cultivation, possession, and use of marijuana for medical purposes and has about 21,000 registered medical-marijuana users, now tests the Obama administration's announcement that it would not prosecute medical marijuana-related offenses in states where marijuana has been legalized for medical use—even though federal law still does not make a distinction between medical and recreational use of marijuana. Neither federal nor local law-enforcement agencies would comment on the Cannabis Cafe's grand opening.
Plantagenet
Its curious that liberals are usually wary of chemicals that can harm the environment or the human body. But when it comes to marijuana and THC, a chemical linked to the causation of brain damage and mental diseases, liberals have no concerns.
jaydeekay
Troll.
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SocialSecretion
Anything can be linked to brain disease. Work can be linked to brain disease. Relationships, family, or Plantagenet can be linked to brain diseases.
sonofloud
lol
EtienneEtoile
Plant- give it a rest with your holier than thou BS. I believe the AMA, which represents a large numbers of doctors has come out endorsing medical maryjane. So you know bettr than them?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/ama-advocates-medical-mari juana/toking-up/
cbeenthere
Reckless troll.
socialworklady
Plant's posts are:
Canned
Robotic
Pedantic
Folks here have your # now Plant. Your over lords expect better.
hfb1053
Plant - thanks for warning us. Must have come from your own experiences.
Demsdisorder
Plantagenet, for president 2012. you got my vote
socialworklady
Palin/Plant 2012
DD3075
According to SocialSecretion: "Anything can be linked to brain disease."
Well coincidentally, I think it was Michael Savage who coined the phrase "Liberalism is a mental disorder."...... maybe SS is right.
I do find the contradiction so funny. Liberals want everyone to stop smoking or pay an increased fee for their insurance. They want unbelievable taxes put onto cigarettes. Yet they want smoking marijuana to be available not just for medical purposes but for socializing. Where does that logic come from and how does it fit?
And they can't move from smoking grass to baking it in brownies, 'cause liberals also believe overweight people should pay more for insurance. Seems to me brownies encourage obesity.
How can a cannabis "smoking" cafe be acceptable? Isn't everyone concerned about 2nd hand smoke? The libs worked so hard at shutting down smoking in all restaurants and public venues. It made sense to me that there should be restaurants that allowed smoking and those that didn't, so people could choose to go to a restaurant with or without smoking. Nope, instead of allowing choice, it was critical to take away all smoking venues.
I think the problem is that liberals have difficulty in projecting forward the impacts of current actions. Now, they have legislated themselves (and the country) into a corner. This "cafe" will not be around long.
Dashes
"Yet they want smoking marijuana to be available not just for medical purposes but for socializing. Where does that logic come from and how does it fit?"
Marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol which is used for socializing. Also, we can tax it too!
"Isn't everyone concerned about 2nd hand smoke?"
Probably not the people IN the cafe, genius. Plus, there are hooka bars all over the place. I don't see you bitching about them.
"I think the problem is that liberals have difficulty in projecting forward the impacts of current actions."
I think the problem is concervotards who are incapable of thinking outside their own narrow perspective.
kayjay
It's curious that conservatives are usually wary of the federal government intervening in states rights, and yet this presents a perfect example of that. The argument that the federal government can close medical marijuana dispensaries because it's a matter of inter-state commerce is ridiculous.
A-Mick
Plantagenet - Hmm, comes from the Latin planta genesta or common broom. So you see your job as sweeping areas clean and keeping society safe. Let me help you here. You will see cigarette butts on the street, on the sidewalk, on your lawn and everywhere. They are ubiquitous! But roaches? Never in all my years (68) have I seen a roach thrown on the street. Never have I seen a roach carelessly discarded. They are generally kept and recycled. Mmmmmmm.
The point? Maryjane is non-polluting and does not even need to be smoked. Think. When is the last time you saw a brownie on the sidewalk? If you did see one, I can guarantee it was not a marijuana fortified one. Oh yeah. And it is safe. Look at the intelligence and humor in the responses to your post if you need any proof. Ty it. First one is free.
magoo363
I have linked the building of the more roads and bridges to more trolls online. Trolls live under bridges, and now the trolls have tons of time to waste online. Study complete.
Mauiboy
I think what the Planted Agent needs to try a little of the Plant. That might get him/her to rethink some of this nonsense that we are subjected to. We might all get high on the results.
when-the-whip-comes-down
It could unwind that rectal knot that keeps him so full of himself.
One condition thoe... a little forewarning so that I could get out of the way... A back-up like that could be powerful!
oliverckerr
I'm a candidate for president, I'm drafting a national marijuana policy. The estimated 40 billion taxable dollars from sales will be earmarked for free medical education for doctors, dentists, nurses and all related personal.
Let there be ten thousand pot shops and 50,000 jobs for people whose dream job is hanging out in the front window wearing surgical gloves and rolling spliffs, stripping lumber, and becoming packaging specialists.
michaelslevinson.com
DakLak
Just imagine if government accepted the status quo and simply stopped wasting law enforcement effort and money on am unattainable goal and taxed the wacky backy.
It would quickly raise funds for bankrupt States and decrease its popularity by virtue of being legal.
sophia5
Oregon is one of the most breathtaking states in America,
and the city of Portland has an incredible public transit system,
maybe the best in the country.
Here comes the " But. "
But . . . after spending a Summer in Portland (mid 90's),
it became increasing evident that the city attracted
quite a few derelicts hanging out on sidewalks
stoned out of their minds, where tourists were
left to navigate around the wasted masses.
I heard the city was cleaned up since then, with
a great art scene, and great new
restaurants opening everywhere.
Actually, minus the stoners, at the time I thought
Portland was a pretty cool city for it's
relatively small size, a miniature Seattle if you will.
The idea of a pot shop sounds like Portland
could attract a whole new population of stoners,
sending the city back to the . . . pardon the pun " STONED " AGE.
EtienneEtoile
And name me a city the size of Portland or bigger in the US that does not have "quite a few derelicts hanging out on sidewalks stoned out of their minds, where tourists were left to navigate around the wasted masses"
cbeenthere
I lived for a year in NW Portland 04-05, and it is a city where it rains for 9 months of the year, so you missed that. It is a city that attracts people on the fringe who are left alone. A lot of young people who have left their homes at an earlier than usual age congregate there and are left alone. The NW area is a gentrified former warehouse area that borders the non gentrified, so if gentrification is what you call a cleanup, parts are. The stoners as you call them don't stand out like a sore thumb, any more than other urban areas, maybe it appeared so to you due to the size. I think Portland will remain unfazed with this issue.
Housebird
Police arrest someone in America every 36 seconds on marijuana charges.
It costs $46,000 per year per prisoner in American Gulags.
Legal drugs kill over 300 % more Americans than illegal drugs.
In accordance with the law your body does not belong to you but to the State.
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hfb1053
I wish someone would donate you to the State.
when-the-whip-comes-down
Simple minds generate simple yet ineffective solutions.
EtienneEtoile
For you mac owners, you can download a widget from the following link that has a dollar counter for the amount of dollars spent since Jan.1, 2009 spent on the "war on drugs" currently at approx. $45,907,800,000. That is a lot of money
http://www.actionamerica.org/drugs/wod-pt1.shtml
socialworklady
Sadly, America loves war.
when-the-whip-comes-down
Sadly, it all can be linked back to Irving Kristol and Prescott Bu$h.
DD3075
For several years I have proposed that all of America's legislators (both state and federal) should be given random drug tests. I have recently heard others suggesting the same thing. Maybe it will catch on. The goofiness of legislation has to be a result of people on drugs.
Ettienne, that cost is less than the amount of Medicare fraud that is perpetrated each year. If the administration would address that fraud, like they always promise to do, then the "war on drugs" would be "budget neutral", you know, just like the BS about health insurance for all being "budget neutral".
EtienneEtoile
And if drugs were legalized the fraud would be budget neutral.
I am all for going after the fraud. Those suckers are stealing from US and us and there should be a special place for them.
Oh BTW, it would put the gangs and cartels out of business as well.
Regarding your suggestion about testing politicians for drugs... Their drug is money from the lobbyist leeches, no test is required as the amount they take should be readily apparent unless they are like William Jefferson and try to hide it in the freezer.
when-the-whip-comes-down
If the value of drugs were driven into the dirt... the motive for those crimes would be eliminated.
DD3075
EtienneEtoile wrote: "And if drugs were legalized the fraud would be budget neutral."
There ya go, the insanity of the left, wanting to make defrauding the government (our taxes) acceptable.
Where does the left get their logic that up is down, good is bad, wrong is right, cold is hot, weak is strong, .....................? My dad used to call it bass ackwards.
EtienneEtoile
dd3075 what an a-hole, taking things out of context. The wingnuts favorite pastime. Read my second sentence douchebag.
DD3075
Etienne,
I did read your second sentence. But it is in direct contradiction to your first, so I took your first as your priority, and the second as an afterthought. So if your second is equally important to you, it kinda cancels your first, and I apologize for not understanding that you would like to see both, legalizing drugs and going after Medicare fraud.
Help me to understand why you, and so many others (not just the liberals) on this site are so predisposed to calling others names ? Are you rather young, missing the maturity needed to discuss differences of opinion? Or simply just a person with uncontrollable anger toward someone of a different persuasion? I thought the left wanted to be known for their tolerance. But I see the left as particularly intolerant.
If you need to insult, choose the actions or thoughts. There is just no need for the childlike behavior of calling people names. It discredits your entire premise.
EtienneEtoile
Gimme a break, 1st you questioned my mental integrity(perhaps more of an insult than name calling) 2nd You called my logic "ass backwards" that is an insult. Where do you get off being holier than thou when I made a simple observation "And if drugs were legalized the fraud would be budget neutral" which based on your logic was a true statement. Nowhere did I indicate that I supported the observation and then clearly stated my position in my next sentence. You clearly took it out of context, then insulted me. You deserve worse name calling, but I toned it down as I am not into profanity. Plain and simple you are a jerk. I can't believe that you would try to put the onus on me for name calling when you were obviously way out of line with your manipulation and insults. I believe you should apologize.
mycountrytoo
This absolutely cracks me up.
We overtax cigarettes to reduce their use. We overtax alchohol for the same reason. We have begun the process of making certain foods illegal, like Dairy Queens Butterscotch cone as it has trace transfats, or Starbucks original Cinnamon Scone or forcing KFC to change its frying shortening.
Now, we are going to make it legal to have a pot cafe, because we think the citizens have a right? What happens when the effects of smoking make them have worse cancers than cigarettes? are we going to subsedize their health care?
The left needs to know they can't have it both ways. I for one want to let people do what they want and be accountable for their behavior. Unfortunately we have the left who wants anything goes without accountability. At some point, they need to grow up.
bitchsbrew
Marijuana doesn't cause cancer (doy). So they aren't being hypocritical. Anyway, if the majority of Americans --including, like, every president since Clinton-- have tried it, don't you think people will smoke it regardless of whether or not there's a law?
mycountrytoo
Are you nuts? Marijuanna has more damaging effects than tobacco it just has not been widely stated because it is illegal.
Don't get me wrong, I would prefer to let the potheads have their smoke, but lets get real, I want them accountable for their behavior and I want it taxed and regulated rather than illegal. Legal and regulated it is in the open and contributes to the economy, Illegal is subverts the economy.
The problem is that those who want it legal tend to be the same ones who want you and I to pay for their healthcare, and I resent that, especially when some pothead sits on his derierre, doesn't work and then gets ill and wants me to pay for it. I just want a reality check here. Let it be legalized, let it be taxed and regulated and lets hold those accountable for their actions. If they do nothing but smoke, no problem, but if they do something stupid, or get ill, it should be from their wallets not mine.
lachica6
I live on the coast of Oregon, far enough away from Portland. The city is absolutely ugly. Half of down town is empty, all that sits there are empty buildings. Now with this I guess all we will attract are the dopers. We do know for a fact that smoking this stuff does wonders for the brain. Can anyone say for a fact that this stuff wont fall into the wrong hands. No they cant, I guess the government likes it better when people are high, cause their easier to control.
SocialSecretion
That is absolutely not true. You clearly have never been a pot smoker. It not only helps reveal you to yourself, but it helps expose the system for what it truly is. Whichever system that might be. So say what you want about what it can potentially do to your ambition, but it sure as hell doesn't make you easier to "control". "They" want you to be always working and alway consuming. Does that sound like pot effects to you?
DD3075
Maybe too many folks smokin' grass explains why we have such obesity. The munchies are prominent, but everyone just sits around and talks. Overeating and inactivity. What a combination.
Demsdisorder
drugs kill more then just the mind. its been my experience that only very weak people do drugs.
SocialSecretion
Well you don't have to sit around and smoke all day. I don't know about everyone else, but people I know who smoke are quite healthy, many of them members of gyms. The few obese people I know don't smoke at all.
DD3075
I agree Demsd. The weaker one is, the more they turn to something external on which to rely to alter ones emotional or psychological state. I believe that in 99% of the unexplainable murders we've seen lately there anti-depressant drugs involved.
I understand that some people are helped by anti-depressants. But we know that all people are not the same, and we have yet to determine why they are good for some and not others. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that Major Hasan was on anti-depressants.
SocialSecretion: If people you know who smoke weed are "quite healthy" then where does the logic pop up from that all cigarette smoking is problematic? And why is it okay for someone to use marijuana to deal with their issues, but it's not okay for someone to use cigarettes to deal with their issues?
I see the left making the issue not about smoking, but about what you are smoking. If you smoke something that is mind-altering, then you're okay. Why? Do you need a stoned world? What for?
cbeenthere
Pioneer Square, North and South Park, Jamison Square, Tom McCall Waterfront, ugly, I don't think so. Only those with medical prescriptions and members of NORML will be participating in this den of iniquity. So fear not.
DakLak
Obamas social drug policy shows maturity. Many other countries, including Canada, have have a relaxed attitude to such things and they have collapsed is a moral morass.
About brain damage concerns: Republicans either have diminished mental capacity or none whatsoever so it really won't affect them.
DakLak
TYPO!
Obamas social drug policy shows maturity. Many other countries, including Canada, have have a relaxed attitude to such things and they have NOT collapsed is a moral morass.
somethinglikethat
subjects such as this are difficult to make broad assumptions about, however the facts are there, it is a practically harmless drug when you compare it to alcohol
marijuanna can be used recreational and can also be abused; the same as alcohol, if there is a real reason it should not be legalized, i would love to enlightened
shortquips
What about the issues of driving under the influence? How would they monitor that?
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