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Michael Steele Wants More Purging
A day after defending moderates in his party, RNC Chairman Michael Steele has apparently changed his mind. “Candidates who live in moderate to slightly liberal districts have got to walk a little bit carefully here, because you do not want to put yourself in a position where you’re crossing that line on conservative principles, fiscal principles, because we’ll come after you,” Steele told ABCNews.com. “You’re gonna find yourself in a very tough hole if you’re arguing for the president’s stimulus plan or Nancy Pelosi’s health plan.”
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WTF....What happened to the Steele of yesterday?
Oh ....I get it, Rush must of given him a call....LMAO!!
I don't know any conservative who gives a damn what Steele thinks. He's a RINO like McLame, Snowe, Graham, FL Gov Crist et al. Can't wait for 2010, can't come soon enough.
He doesn't agree with me! He must be a RINO! There is no center!
I just don't get your whole attitude which is representative of this whole false "RINO" label. It's BS and you're distancing yourself from the rest of us with your entire lack of understanding that you're not entirely right and everyone else is not entirely wrong.
More like no one in the country gives a damn what Steele thinks. Leave it to the GOP to confuse affirmative action with promoting mediocrity.
Michael Steele needs to be purged. On the other hand, he reflects an anti-political party in its death throes. The Amrerican people will purgr the whole party in the next election. Whereever an independent runs, they will win.
michaelslevinson.com
Steele should purge himself.
First of all, Rush can kiss my ass. Second, Steele can join him. Moderation is the way to go in either party. You don't have to give up your ideals but to be so extreme is a losing proposition. They are fools on the Ship of Sally.
Who is Sally and why are you posting about her ship?
Plantagenet - "Who is Sally and why are you posting about her ship?"
It's just a guess, but Sally is variant form of Sarah (Palin). Add ship of fools, leaving one with Ship of Sally. Or SOS for short.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_fools
From the Wikipedia artcile -> "The ship of fools is an allegory that has long been a fixture and reminder in Western literature and art. The allegory depicts a vessel populated by human inhabitants who are deranged, frivolous, or oblivious, passengers aboard a ship without a pilot, and seemingly ignorant of their own direction."
Do you understand now, Plant? If not, I can help -- take 2 aspirin and go to bed. You're overtaxing your brain. Be calm, rest.
Ship of fools? I got it "the USS Pelosi"
So let me get this straight...Steele has just issued a threat to members of his own party if they aren't 'conservative' enough??? Does he realize how many 'mainstream' Republicans that is??? Looks like the Dems will have nothing to worry about in 2010.
This is how the group called Independents got so big. It's mostly made up of Republicans who are no longer comfortable in their party. Looks like it's about to get a whole lot bigger.
In Virginia & NJ the Indies aren't too comfortable with the Dem Party either.
Glenda1976 and in NY and California?
shhh, let's not shower them with logic. Let's just let the GOP implode all on its own. They are off to a great start.
Me too...the Conservatives don't want moderate Republicans in the party any more and they rush to endorse third-party party crashers. Why doesn't the radical right start their own party? They can call themselves the Conservative Party. At least I will know who the wing nuts are and leave the true Republicans alone to work toward a more effective government that is focused on the future growth of our country.
"Why doesn't the radical right start their own party?"
Ever hear of the Constitution Party?
That would spoil the fun!
Do notice that this is a global phenomenon going on right now. All 'right-wing' parties are suddenly being confronted and/or challenged by the 'right of the right'...whether its in Israel, most other Middle Eastern nations, Afghanistan/Pakistan, Europe, Latin America, or elsewhere. There is a global fracture of the right occurring, and the best thing to do is stand by and watch them eat their young....all that remains to be seen is whether the 'moderate' rightists will prevail, or will the 'wing-nuts' take over....
As a life-long resident of Maryland I can assure you that Michael Steele is an idiot--and a none too creative one at that. He spent four years as our Lt. Governor and did essentially nothing. Thankfully, he and his fearless leader--Bob Ehrlich, surely one of the most mendacious and partisan governors in the state's history--were booted out of office after one term, leaving behind abundant fiscal problems long before the recession began to set in.
That he is the "leader" of today's national Republican party is perfect. He is, to quote William Shakespeare "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Steele is right where he belongs--with the likes of Gingrich, Limbaugh, Boehner, Cantor, etc., and dancing to whatever tune they play.
Soon every Moderate will leave like Arlen Spector or Dede sc..something NY.
Oh how tragic it would be to lose more of the Arlen Specters and Dede's of the world! Please, will you take a Lindsay Grahmnesty and Olympia Snowe along to boot? No charge on either one. Let these guys foul up the stew of the Democratic party instead of the GOP.
There are a few principles that should remain bedrock in order for a politician to consider themselves a Republican -- fiscal restraint, limited Government, and the rule of law. The others -- primarily the social issues -- can be tolerated if they remain true to the core libertarian ideas of Governance.
You libs accused the GOP of being fiscally reckless during the Bush Years -- and you were absolutely right! In order to reclaim that mantle we need to demand that our Republican leaders remain faithful to limited Government and fiscal restraint. If they can't then they should go where their ideas are more faithfully represented -- the Democrats. I don't care about the gamesmanship between the parties -- it's about the ideas and how we should be governmed. I want a strong Republican party but if being a Republican means nothing then why should I care -- it's nothing more than the color on the jersey.
wow ok dude w/e I'll just enjoy watching the party "purify itself".
Bravo, Grimmace.
What the Dems have never, and do not now grasp, is fiscal responsibility. And that is all that Steele mentioned. We, the non-liberals (whatever you wish to call us) demand less government, less spending, and respect for our Constitution.
It's that simple!
Anyone who can't understand that, is not bright enough to represent anyone.
Progressive, I'll bet you were first in line to call for the scalp of Liebermann -- something Democrats had every right to do by the way.
What a bunch of crock! Grimmace and your lackies are all of a sudden conservative. When your party was raping the taxpayers to pay for your "roads to nowhere," fattening the corporate fat cats, pushing loans to unqualifed homeowners, ignoring the fraud in Medicare, and repealing regulations? You were probably sitting on your sofa in a white tee shirt, watching Fox News. As a moderate republican, I started my own business, pay outrageous health insurance premiums, nursed my cancer-stricken spouse and I VOTED FOR OBAMA. Get out of the way and stop your "so called" conservativism. You and your kind caused all this and left the rest of us to clean it up. You can leave the Party and join the "Wing Nuts" in a new third party. Good luck getting votes.
Hmmm, the social issues can be tolerated? Sounds like you're ripe for the purge. And you all sneer at moderates and independents, but if they wanted to be Democrats, they would have become so - clearly, their ideas are not being "faithfully represented" by either side. You've got every right to want to shrink the GOP down to those who only believe the exact same thing, but then you might want to ask yourself what is the point of such a party in our democratic system? How can becoming a permanent minority achieve any of the goals the GOP seems to have?
Okay eurydice, then perhaps we should take things in your direction. Why don't the Republicans just simply create a party without any organizing principles -- no positions, no idealogy, no common bond. This way we should be able to get the votes of everyone! Join the GOP because we stand for nothing and everything! All we care about is winning!
Would you like to join? Do you want to be a part of the team?
Grimmace, that's a false argument and you know it. Just because I don't believe in the principles of the far right doesn't mean I don't believe in any principles. There's a reason people have been leaving the GOP and it's not because they've stopped believing in limited government or fiscal responsibility. It's because the GOP is increasingly being represented by narrow-minded prigs and bigots who are using the party as their own personal playpen. Of course, the GOP should stand for something, but what it shouldn't stand for is exclusion and intolerance, because that does not respect the Constitution nor does it represent the spirit of limited government.
mclaubr, for some reason you call yourself a moderate Republican yet you voted for Obama? Why? You had the chance to vote for the poster child of moderate Republicans, John McCain, and yet when the time came to vote you instead voted for the politician with the most liberal voting record in the Senate? That doesn't sound very moderate to me.
John McCain fought against your entire litany of supposed GOP sins ("roads to nowhere," fattening the corporate fat cats, pushing loans to unqualifed homeowners, ignoring the fraud in Medicare, and repealing regulations) and yet you didn't give him your vote. I never heard nor saw evidence that Barry ever fought against any of these abuses. Sorry, something doesn't add up here.
BTW, I have no love lost for McCain, but I wouldn't want to purge him from the party. Why? Because for the most part he is a fiscal conservative. I disagree with him on many other matters but I would still want him as a Republican.
I agree with mclaubr. As a business owner I understand where he is coming from. I also had to drop health ins. for myself and employees after costs went from reasonable to INSANE in 7 quick years.
@Grimmace, I would guess that you are in the minority of your party of "purging the rino's" support of Senator McCain. You sound a bit too moderate. Also calling him a Senator by me shows a lot more respect than your calling our barely 11 month old President "Barry."
Gotta a long way to go, don't we?
Does the name Sarah Palin mean anything to you? I would venture a guess that many moderate republicans voted for Obama because of her.
You can blame it all on Scuzzy the Skunk! RNC fronted the Skunk $900,000 and she endorsed the democrat! Conservatives now send contributions directly to the campaigns they endorse. RNC promises not to promote anymore Skunks! no more Skunks!
Michael Steele translated:
Our enemies are your enemies or take a hike.
You oppose what we oppose or get lost.
Even if we're wrong about everything, the only thing that matters is winning.
Thinkers, stay away.
Sorry, but that is the DNC mission statement
Wow, that didn't take long.
This guy's a complete joke. His party smacks him down every time he says something that challenges the orthodoxy of the radical Right.
He actually had something of merit to say standing up to Palin and company yesterday. I wondered if he could make it stick this time.
Survey says: No.
He's become a sad caricature of himself.
Michael Sybil Steele
Apparently the Freedoms the Republicans are screaming about at their "Super Bowl of Freedom" don't include Freedom or thought or opinion.
He changed his mind? What mind?
I think it is fitting that "purge" is a political tactic the Christo-fascists are enthusiastically willing to engage in. The Nazi's purged the Jews. The Bolsheviks purged a whole bunch of undesirable elements starting with the intelligentsia (sound familiar).
For the extreme-o-cons to "purge" less regressive ideology (intelligentsia) from the party stands to reason. It also stands to reason is that, historically, ideological purists pursue totalitarian government much like the RWCE are advocating.
I can't wait until they get into power and they start purging the Constitution from such ideologically impure concepts as the 1st Amendment.
The far Right has already openly purged the ideas of forming a more perfect Union, establishing justice, insuring domestic tranquility, promoting the general welfare and securing the Blessing of Liberty, as well as the IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, XIII, XIV, XV, XIX Amendments. All they need is a couple more and they have complete control.
My guess is that after we are subjugated under a new, Christian Theocracy (implies Totalitarianism), the Fundamentalists and the Catholics will go at one another, just like the good ole days.
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
- Sinclair Lewis
I always love it when libs try to invoke the Constitution - a document that was specifically created to limit the power of Government while the libs constantly seek to undermine the document by endlessly creating new ways to expand the power of Government over people's lives. Oh well, the road to serfdom is at least paved with good intentions.
Good job by the way with all of the Nazi and Bolshevik idealogy analogies -- God forbid that Republicans would want to reestablish their brand of fiscal restraint and limited Government.
Is that the fiscal responsibility and limited government of the Bush years? The fiscal restraint and limited government that tripled the national debt and created the largest federal government agency? Or do you have a different fiscal restraint and limited government in mind? (If you do, I would like that one, because the Bush one did it wrong.)
"Is that the fiscal responsibility and limited government of the Bush years?"
No, not at all. If Bush were running for another office based on his record, I would support a Conservative challenger. Bush's record was pathetic on spending -- he was a liberal. Far too many of the Republican colleagues during Bush's tenure were just as pathetic. That's what needs to change.
Get it -- the Republicans performed poorly on their claim of fiscal responsibility and that is why the party has fallen apart. It's now time to right the ship.
Now having admitted all of this, please tell me where the Democrats wanted to spend less on something -- anything other than the war and defense?
I always love pseudo-cons when they invoke revisionist history and suggest that the Founders only wanted to limit the size of the Federal government while you totally ignore the individual freedoms that the Founders were so concerned about formalizing in the Constitution.
Yours is classic revisionist intentional misinterpretation because it doesn't fit your mindset. You and Pat Robertson would also conclude that the Founders didn't really mean complete separation of state and church when there is a mountain of documentary evidence proving that is exactly what the Founders intended.
The Founders being staunchly secular progressives, to use today's vernacular, were also very intent on establishing those individual rights that the religious right is so intent on dismantling. I guess the Founders never thought about or documented their positions on "inalienable rights".
The more accurate understanding of the Founders is that they wanted to clearly define the role of the Federal government in relation to the States which is a very different construct than simply limiting the size of government.
The Founders would be appalled at the cavalier disregard of the Constitution that the POG has tried to brand as government for the people by the people.
As for the oxymoron that you claim is Republi-con fiscal policy, any first year economics student can readily see the direct correlations between modern conservative economic policy and good, old fashioned, military-industrial Fascism. Let's not forget that back in the 1930's there were a lot of folks on your team that thought Mussolini was a genius wanted to side with the Nazis.
Roche, too many items to rebut and too little time. I'll just say that a government limited by the Constitution can't take away these and any other freedoms. If the Constitution doesn't grant government the authority then it is left to the states and the people and these freedoms are therefore preserved.
Grimmace,
Your response doesn't make sense but you are wrong that is why the Founders specifically included the Bill of Rights. Otherwise the States could revoke basic rights.
Grimmace, It seems you are trying to turn the Republican Party into the Libertarian Party, which it is not. It's been made very clear that Republicans don't want Libertarians, and Libertarians don't want people like Glenn Beck. In fact, if you really were a Libertarian, you'd be just as disgusted with Republicans as you are with the Democrats. So, I suspect you are just a Republican masquerading as a Libertarian.
You seem particularly frightened by religion. Why is that?
Where do you get "Christian Theocracy (implies Totalitarianism)". I can't think of a single fiscal issue that is dictated by Christianity. I'd sure as hell rather deal with the religious radicals on the far right, than with the Socialist/Marxist radicals on the far left. One will allow our freedoms to remain, the other will destroy them. Choose your poison.
Religious radicals: want to repeal Roe v Wade (which not only guarantees women's rights, but also guarantees all of our rights to privacy in the bedroom; do you want somebody to tell you what you can and can't do in your bedroom?), want to disallow teaching evolution in schools, and do things like burn books and assassinate abortion doctors.
Socialists: want the control of the means of production in the hands of the workers.
So, which one allows our freedoms to remain?
I am frightened by religion for the same reasons that the Founders were frightened by religion. They knew that religion was bad for government and vice versa.
I am frightened by religion because religion, particularly that practiced by the organized cults that worship the God of Abraham, is the most evil and destructive ideological construct ever invented by man.
I am freighted by religion because the Evangelical religious leadership especially those that believe in John Darby Premillennialism and the Dominionism are openly trying to usurp the individual freedoms granted by the Constitution all in the name of Patriotism.
I, sure as hell, do not want to deal with either the religious radicals on the far right or the Socialist/Marxists on the far left. To me, all extremists are to be avoided. I would rather deal with secular progressives and moderate rationalists that constitute 70% of the REAL normal people in the country.
Oh, by the way, in reality Theocracy is Totalitarianism, before I was just being nice.
What!?! He actually strapped on a pair yesterday by making his remarks only to hand them back today. What a gutless puppet.
We need to renew out Pallah tics. Start fresh.
We need to create the party of one tent for all and dump this confusing two party idiocy. George Washington begged his contemporaries not to make political parties, but to have factions in one party.
So there should be two political parties: One party registered, the other party the unregistered. The main goal of the registered is to get the unregistered to participate, and the unregistered should be in charge of running the elections.
Our slogan should be "Dump the 535." Great bumper sticker "The 535 Must Go."
People will respond to that. It is the 535 Members of Congress who wink at the idea, through their Federal Election Commission, that the $150,000 given to Sarah Palin for gear to wear on the campaign trail was a "legal" dough nation.
The lobbyists give our representatives $$$. For their elections. Does the money go for live televised speech on behalf of their candidacies? Noooo. It goes for two dozen $150 shirts, and many pair of $400 shoes, and expensive suits, and outfits for the spouse, for the campaign trail.
In exchange for that, bills are written within the unstated desires of Money & Power, the "acceptable" reforms Money & Power seek explained to the congresspersons' aides, a quid pro conducted by pros.
Amongst the 535 there are perhaps 40-50 keepers. But all must go! Either we vote them all out, or we, the people lose and they all will stay. Their corrupt business of politics as usual.
That resonates!
We can say to people, to dissolve the electorate's inertia: those Members who are really worth having around, the ten percent who are decent - they, upon losing their seat will probably offer to stay on as a member of the newly elected Member's staff, to keep working on the important legislation they had already devoted years trying to pass.
Another plank in our winning platform is to have five Members of the House where we have one, with all five sharing the same office so there isn't any raise in the bloated office budgets. Also, we need to reset all the congressional districts according to County lines, instead of the gerrymander.
Were we only to elect 50 out of 535 we could force reform because neither corrupt party could get anything done without our cooperation!
With five Congress people where we have one, and four of the five remaining in the district and voting via internet, the lobbyists would not be in control of anything, and it would be feasible for some (probably most) of the current office holders we removed to seek another seat in a freshly designed district where everyone always voted for them before we, the people with the Independent party politics came along.
We could have a political party convention and write all the planks in our platform, too, which seems a lot more fun than grousing. We could introduce all of our candidates for the House and Senate to the 200,000 convention delegates (and the millions at home on pay per view)!
200,000 delegates X $200 per delegate delegate fee = forty million dollars to run our open air Woodstockian convention and have plenty enough bucks for delegate entertainment every night, Bono, Metallica, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Stevie Wonder, Tina Turner, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Ringo, Paul, The Rolling Stones . . . they will all come, and many others, too. We will have enough money to cover the musicians' costs, 200 thousand convention delegates X $200 delegate fee = 40 million dollars. The musicians will read your common sense platform and want to be there!
They will play for the party standing behind the poet prophet candidate for president and his program for World Peace. They will all come, not for poet, but for you. So where there is a will there is a way. We can do it.
michaelslevinson.com
This guy needs to be purged to the democrat side
Michael, Have you tried treatment?
I need treatment for bothering to respond. We need to renew our politics. That might be too creative for you, but that is what our nation needs to do.
michaelslevinson.com
I am not a democrat. My family was all republican. Me, too. I was in the Hillary for Mayor campaign 1946. I campaigned hard for Dewey. I had buttons. I convinced all the stores along the walk home from school to have a poster. I shouted on the street corners when the light turned red, "Dewey Dewey Dewey!"
I went to bed I thought I had a winner. I stayed up late to hear it on the radio. Today, for many years, I am independent. I do not expect to see you at the independent political convention I am organizing. You are too malicious and very disordered.
michaelslevinson.com
They seem to be cutting off their nose to spite their face. Once again I'm so impressed at the logic...
You obviously don't know what logic is.
Please, GOP, PLEASE purge moderates from your party.
40% conservative - 20% liberal - 20% conservative democrat. This was a Gallop poll taking three weeks ago asking who are today's Americans ...
In case you didn't see the election results there was a 25% swing from independents fooled by Obama in NY and 30% swing in Va. Not to mention seven seats in Pa, dark blue Westchester county, NY swings GOP and on and on. If you read only comic books from the lib media your not getting the full picture. sucker....
I believe it. Though you should be aware that people may call themselves conservative while actually holding very moderate points of view, by and large. It's understandable, given that "conservative" and "liberal" don't really mean anything.
This is part of the reason for the massive disparity between people who identify themselves as conservative and people who identify themselves as Republicans (20%).
There has been an incredible surge in independent voters.
In fact, I dare say the time is ripe for a third, middle of the road-type party.
I consider myself more "Conservative" than "Liberal". I voted for Papa Bush twice, Perot once, and Baby Bush once. That being said, I havent voted Republican since 2000 and probably never will. Your party embraced the "Religious" Right, the Glenn Beck knuckledraggers, and the No-conservatives.
I am one of those guys you purged. Congratulations. We are the guys that decide elections. You guys will win and lose elections at the state level. Unfortunately for America, you guys won't see the White House in my lifetime as long as your Party is ran by Rush, Palin, Beck, and Bachman.
The liberals have, over time managed to drag everything left so far that a "moderate" republican could now be logically defined as "a socialist without the virtue of any guilding political principle."
O, please let the purge begin.
Its " OFFICAL " the Re-publican party is "NOW" split and I knew it would happen the day I was calling for Evangelics to leave the PHONYS and false support they where claiming of the christian right. The re-publican party is "NO LONGER" the "BIG TENT PARTY" ......! The Evangelics now have the power to rejected (wife Swappers) like John Ensign,Newt Gingrich,David Vitter, Mark Sanford and other Fakes who think they can just Step on Familys values princples and get away with it,Sorry not "NO" more..! God's children had enough of the "LIES" and "DECIET" its "NOT" who they are .........! and its "TIME" to get rid of the old and start with the "NEW" NO MORE LIES from the pit of hell , The Re-publican party went to far and its going to stop, Gods children are bold as lions and now its time to put our foot down and say "THATS IT" , Tom Price R (nc) needs to come out of closet and stop pretending to be somebody else he's not......
Now this seems like something Adolf Hitler would do. Is he really trying to produce a perfect party (perfect race.)
I am sorry I really dont feel this is true but I had to say it!!
Michael Steele, The Human Oscillator.
Purge baby purge!!!!
Woo hoo!
2012 will be a cakewalk.
Thanks dumbtards!!! Merry Christmas!!!
"2012 will be a cakewalk. "
.........................and every Presidential election after that.
When bush was in office he was a republican and you neocons supported every dollar he stole from the middle class. Now that he's out of office you have the balls to call him a liberal but you did nothing about his out of control spending and trashing of the constitution.
The Republican Party is imploding & I for one am enjoying the sparks that are flying while watching the implosion. Wish I could have listened in on the verbal spanking Limbaugh gave Steele when Steele telephoned Limbaugh with an apology for his previous days comment.
Hoffman, the Wing Nuts choice for the House of Rep. in the NY 23rd district (a district that has voted Republican for 150 years), went down in defeat to a Democrat. How did the Wing Nuts accept the defeat? They called it a victory for Conservatism & blamed their choice Hoffman for the loss. Way to go Wing Nuts you truly do eat your own. Can't wait to see who your hand picked candidates will be in 2010.
They appear to be really jerks! I'm in Florida so i couldn't find anyone to bet how it was going to turn out. It is a sign people are ready to shrug their party affiliations.
michaelslevinson.com
You guys don't lament the fracturing of the Republican party and you don't feel sorry either that moderates are losing elections and getting pushed out. What you guys like jojo and illiterates like benzor fear is a CONSERVATIVE Republican party because when republicans run as conservatives they generally win. mcDonnell ran as a conservative and won and Christie expoused a lot of conservative views and he won. When Republicans can get the base excited about a candidate and the Party acts smartly and funds the conservative they tend to fo well. Hoffmann would have cleaned Owens' clock if the Republican party had thrown its money behind him early - Scozzafava would have dropped out 6 weeks ago.
I love all of you libs ....eeeeerrr..... independents, who feel as though if only there was a moderate republican, a guy or gal who was a little more ....reasonable , then just maybe then they might consider voting for them. Well , you had your chance with McCain, I mean, he was your favorite Republican until he actually ran. You will say that what turned you off was palin. I say BULLLSHIT !!!!! If McCain had brought on Tom Ridge you would have savaged him calling him too right and too conservative. You guys want the GOP to have a lot of moderate collectors for the welfare state types in the GOP because you know that constituted in that manner the GOP will always lose. As a full throttled Consevative party, they generally win . When they start trying to get along with progressive types, the base abandons them as do many independents.
bcaldwell - Just what is a 'CONSERVATIVE Republican"? Do you have any examples who have the traits enjoyed by a 'CONSERVATIVE Republican"?
The Republican Party --
Purging like a
Fifteen year
Old bulimic
It aint gonna
Cure what
Ails them
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