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Mrs. Sanford: I Will Survive
Can they make her the governor now? Jenny Sanford, the wife of South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford who gained a national following when she refused to stand by his side after he admitted an affair, talked to reporters on Friday about her husband, her first interview since his Wednesday news conference. She told the Associated Press that she discovered the governor's infidelity when she came across a letter he had written and demanded he break off the affair. When he asked to see his mistress in Argentina, she refused, telling her interviewer: “It’s one thing to forgive adultery. It’s another to condone it.” She said the governor told her he was on a writing trip last week and that she was devastated to find out he was in Argentina. According to The New York Times, when asked by a reporter whether she was OK she replied: "I have great faith and I have great friends and great family. We have a good Lord in this world, and I know I’m going to be fine. Not only will I survive, I’ll thrive.” Once again refusing to carry water for her estranged husband, Sanford told reporters that the governor's political future was "not a concern" to her. "He’s going to have to worry about that. I’m worried about my family and the character of my children," she said.
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Good God! You're on a roll!
From the NYT story appears Jenny's a real hard nut. Explains why the governor fell for a warm hearted, romantic, shapely middle aged Latina.
Actually Jenny is the only sane one in the bunch. Her husband is a wimp and his mistress lacks moral scruples.
seakiev-
You don't know any of that
To be true-
Those are your moralistic assumptions
And everybody's had a nose full
Of those.
I guess a lady with backbone can be called a hard nut. Mrs. Sanford has intelligence, principles and the wherewithal to hold on to her principles.
Ms. Maria sounds in her emails warm and kindly, a romantic in our times.
The luv guv is, as expected, a spineless chump that can't keep a secret affair a secret. We all know the details, the sneaky manipulation, the "true" Eastern Airlines moxie of the erstwhile student adventure-guy. The $100 emergency money was really cute. When asked if he was separated he answers "well, I'm here and she'e over there", "not formally". Later that same day Mrs. Sanford tells the world she asked him two weeks prior to leave the family premises. The luv guv has been living alone in the guvna's official mansion while Mrs. Sanford and sons have been living in the family home at Lady's Island.
Jenny Sanford is a hard nut that will stand firm on her principles. The luv guv is a spineless, manipulative, philandering moron.
Who do you call latina? What is that definition?
Be aware of how much you know about Buenos Aires... Have a trip and find out about a very cosmopolitan city, you can be very surprised the cultural fusion it exists there.., very different from the rest of Latin American countries.
Society and its hierarchy there are very well alive... You can't bunch the definition of Latina.... that word may not apply for who she is.. Now, about him poor thing, he could not keep his affair below the radar...
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LOL. charles116 I think that is the funniest comment I have ever read on a blog!
Good for Jenny Sanford! Her lying, cheating husband put her in the lime light and I for one am glad she is not "standing by her man".
Good for her for sure. She doesn't have a partner, she has a spouse. They are not the same thing and she is looking at things the right way.
She'll make a bazzillion $$$$ with her book deal, ask Mrs. Edwards.
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Ms. Sanford seems to have some sense. I doubt if she will write a book.
She came with a bazzillion $$$, an ivey league education, was a VP on Wall Street and was the one with the connection and apparently the political acumen. Just a guess, but I'd bet she is just making sure that he leaves with no more than he came with. This is one homely man! Without the money and the power, I feel like Mrs. Argentina's warmth will quickly chill. Would you want to roll over every morning and be faced with the liver spots, the eye bags, the receding hairline and the "pleated" forehead. Mark Sanford is hardly eye candy.
She should take her husbands position as governor and he should fly off to Argentina and stay there. As a conservative, we sure don't need his trashy lifestyle. We have enough of these cheats in Washington who need to be removed totally in both parties and one more is just the icing on the cake. We are tired of it. Jenny was the faithful one, let her take over the job. Undoubtedly she is more worthy than him.
Judgmental much?
It's about time these women drew a line in the sand and said "enough". Stand by your man is BS, especially in this case when he clearly had no intention of breaking it off. She has enough going for her (no, not a book deal necessarily) and she can prove to her children what a strong, capable woman can do after a blow like this. Good for HER! He's basically slammed his pecker in a door...let him have his Argentinian honey.
I have always wondered why so many political wives do that dance on the arm of the wayward husband. I admire her for speaking with candor. How could she not be angry? If she still loved him, that would be one thing, but I suspect this marriage was already in trouble, well before Argentina. He just made the situation real clear for her. I wish her fewer snide comments than she'll probably get, and a nice rest-of-her-life.
She will be just fine. This marriage is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Over.But they might stay together,as hundreds of families do,for the children for society,for the families,and they will get old,envoled in their childrens future and raise grandchildren get older,sick and live together forever.!!!!Happy marriages by the thousands.She knows him well,a long time ago they drifted apart.he is sooo inlove with Miss Argentina,he could not stop crying.She has money,strenght,religion,faith,family,She will Surive and she is a a good mother and someone should care about the children.
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All "staying together for the children" accomplishes is to teach the children how to grow up and create dysfunctional families of their own. A loving, mutually respectful relationship between two parents gives children a safe environment in which to thrive. The "child-centered" family had not produced functional adults. It has failed to the extent that they now devote chapters to it in the text books for Marriage and Family Therapy. The last thing Mrs Sanford or her children need is to continue a faux marriage with this self-indulgent, self-involved loser. The last thing South Carolina needs is 18 more months of the worst governor in their history. The legislature overturned his vetos 10 times the week before he abandoned his state and his children to run off to Argentina for Father's Day.
weedyseadragon,I dont know if that question went to me?what kind of married world would you like to live in?I did not say that is how I value a marriage or see a marriage for me. But there are thousands of marriage that have been together,for the family,for the money,for appearances,for society,for convenience and many for their children. Then they get old,they become grandparents etc. I did not say this is the ideal and happy marriage.I just said there are many,many,many like this.and that's life for them
So if all this is true, then why did she release a statement saying he she was reconciling and that he had "earned" the right to a second chance. It sounds like he's already had several and repeatedly blown it. And how is lying to her and heading off to see his mistress AGAIN a way to "earn" reconciliation?
I won't believe a word she says until she at least retracts that letter. Whether she eventually reconciles again or not is none of my business, but there is no way someone writes that letter and feels the way she has expressed in interviews over the last two days. Both don't fit in the same universe.
Well, I am hoping that she is making sure that Sanford leaves with no more than he came with. She had the money, the education, the political connections, and was a VP on Wall Street. Apparently, she, also, is the one with the intellect and the political acumen. Unless, there was a pre-nup without sufficient cause, she could end up paying him alimony if South Carolina is an alimony state. Then again, without the money, the position or the power, I would expect Mrs. Argentina's warmth to rapidly cool.
She's an enabler. Nothing more than a "family values" Republican hypocrite herself. These two deserve each other.
If there ever was an enabler, that would be Hillary. Bill is the definition of a serial adulterer.
It is weak
To see everything
In terms of dualities.
This side vs the other side.
If you think that's bad what about this?
Engage the issue with a real suggestion.
Everything else is childish blather.
Bill was and is and will remain a sex addict,but the woman he loves is Hillary,and thats her man. And all and all they are made for each other.!!
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You're right. Based on her recent public comments, I think she will make his life miserable. LOL!
I would. I'd start by putting him on a 800 dollar a month budget. Try and sneak off for a booty call on that!
charles116
"STAYING with him IS the punishment."
You talking about Hill 'n Bill, right?
Moron. Fool. Imbecile. Stay off the board until your I.Q. reaches triple digits.
Alex sounds on the money to me. They both are hypocrites that deserve each other. If he was that happy in his marriage, you act like an adult and move on for the betterment of everyone involved.
Hardly enabling. It is basically up to Mr. AWOL to return to the marriage. It is up to him. When you are Catholic you are always married. She's not the adulterer, he is. She is the one who is free in this situation. As she said, she'll survive.
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Connie47-
Could you come over here
For a minute-
I have something to show you.
While an affair is usually devastating to any marriage, it need not be fatal. With 20 years and 4 children together, I can understand the desire to save it.
The people I've known in similar situations (and who doesn't know SOMEBODY in this situation?!) who have tried to work through it are almost always the better for it - whether the marriage survives or not.
The only thing
That was made clear
In the Governor's confusing
Press conference was the fact
That he is in lust.
He may be a little too preoccupied
To reconcile anything.
Morning Rita!
Good morning.
Ritarita,SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOin lust he could not stop crying.
FNYgY1,what you have said is very true.
Well Mrs Sanford has already tried to save it. After 5 months of marriage counseling, he makes arrangements to spend 10 days with his mistress over the Father's Day weekend. Marriage counseling has a 95% failure rate because one party has already decided to leave and agree to counseling to try to make the other party like their decision. In Sanford's case, he probably wanted to make her like it enough not to cut the money off.
Mrs. Sanford I applaud you. I was married to a narcissist as well
Keep your dignity and your family intact. Let the creep go
the movie is actually gonna be about that congressional prayer group. or one based on it.
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I said it yesterday the movie could be Ed Norton,super cool,he can play this dumy great. And Ann Hathaway although she is gorgeous could pull Mrs Sanford off. and for the Argentinian girl Penelope Cruz. A hit for sure. Im looking for a new career. i am available.too.PS..... The children, I am a firm believer leave everyones children out.
I suspect I am in the minority, but I am cheering for Mark and Maria! Mark Sanford seems to be as much a prisoner of his Christianity and ambition as "Father Ralph" was of his Catholicism/Christianity and ambition. I think he really loves Maria. Something deep is going on here. Eight years he has been friends with her. If his story is true, than I give them both credit for only acting on their feelings in the last year. Up until then they lusted in their hearts. Think Thorn Birds. Powerful stuff. There are at least 2 sides to every story. Maybe his wife was going to deny Sanford his ability to see his kids on Father's Day, which may then have actually made him more irrational and willing to escape back to Argentina, where I believe the woman he really loves resides. After reading the 6/26 article about her interview with the AP, to me Jenny increasingly appears to be a cold person. Something in this marriage has been deeply wrong for a long time. I think Sanford's views on some issues may be morphing. I think he could have an inner Democrat or Independent earning to break free. He may still pick ambition over heart -- just like "Father Ralph" did, and he may regret it.
This is an interesting and compelling perspective. After I posted I read it and perhaps you are right...thanks for the counterpoint.
Yep he should resign immediately and take up residence in Argentina. Them 4 kids will love Christmas with Dad and their new hot Mom in South America! Maybe they could meet somewhere halfway.
I've been thinking something
Along these lines also-
But it's hard to forget his former
Sanctimoniousness.
That is the only real reason people care. I for one, don't care what he does in his personal life. But he allows his religious beliefs to influence his voting record. And he uses that belief to beat up others.
There he sits cruelly condemning others while cheating on his family. THAT really chafes my hide. This really isn't even about him. It is about his hypocrisy.
Oh, he's got something yearning to break free alright, but it's certainly not his "inner democrat or independent" !
Yeah, if he went Democrat, he at least would have been with his own type. We expect for them to do those things. It is normal for them. You may have a point there. As far as Jenny, I don't see how your stupidity could blame this crap on her. You undoubtedly must be on the other end of the one who sleeps around and don't care who you hurt.
mdargo -- The four Sanford kids are going to love reading your comment.
A real man cuts his losses and breaks clean. Then you go to Argentina.
Jenny Sanford has the taut temper and clarity of purpose to call it as she sees it. She has four kids left on a lurch by the sanctimonious and teary luv guv.
This ain't no Dr. Zhivago, here. A man faces his fate head on. Kinda like Jenny Sanford.
Well, let's see, unless Sanford resigns, it would appear that he may end up in jail. It was reported yesterday that last year he diverted 100K federal grant into his PAC, got caught, and the state let him pay it back. Salon had a piece on a cover up of the unexplained death of an African American child who mysteriously died on Sanford''s farm, and that Sanford had paid off the parents to cover it up.
It amazing me how many romantics mistake Sanford's lame attempt at erotica for undying love. I know any number of rednecks who could pen better without a face of body to attach it to. Now for the tears, they weren't for anyone except himself. He got caught and he never believed that he would. You see the same reaction in court everyday when the jury brings in a guilty verdict. Regardless of the crime, the criminal never believes that they will have to pay the consequences or that they should be required to do so.
xlntcat -- I also saw crocodile tears for no one but himself. He's sorry he got caught, he's sorry his political future vanished, he's sorry he had to make the Esatern Airlines/Appallachia/travel guide idiotic tale to a waiting reporter at the Atlanta airport. The first seven minutes of his "confession" were to cover his ass on that little particular matter.
This is a callous hypocrite weaseling his way out of an impossible political situation. These philandering morons deserve what's coming to them.
You have a real romantic point of view,and life is so short everyone deserves to be happy. and everyone deserveds to find their forever love. and on and on.But there are ties and bonds and children.This is the oldest story on earth.He could be having a middle age crisis. An affair in a marriage if it is not discovered retrigers life in people. and can strenghten a marriage.after the affair.Unfortunately this is sexual desire, and what you have at home,starts to die. out.In millions of marriages.And love, and romance, and your heart singing is exciting,and who wouldnt want to feel that???So Resign, get out of the spotlight,and do what you want.We really have no way of knowing what has been going onbeetween these people.and there is nothing more powerful than a PLATONIC AFFAIR... good luck all I want from him is not to enjoy the public light and all the fringes of being a politician,and not doing your job. and because he was ssuch a Hypocrite.Also unfortunately unloved wives become cold and unhappy. miss argentina is glowing.!!
Normally, I think a wife could forgive her husband for a sexual infidelity, but this is an affair of the heart. It is to me more painful to deal with. He also snuck off after getting a big fat "NO" to go down to Argentina. Big Lie. Big Mistake. I hope Mrs. Sanford stays strong, takes him for every dime and he can live with Miss HootchieKootchie in Argentina.
How do you know it is an affair of the heart? He doesn't really know this woman and she hasn't had to look at that face for 20 years (He is one homely dude). Mrs Sanford is the heiress, has the Ivey League education, was a VP on Wall Street and had the political connections. Without the money, the position or the power, all Mrs. HootchieKeootchie will be left with are the age spots, the eye bags, the receding hairline and the "pleated" forehead. Since she isn't divorced either, I suspect her true love will quickly fade away.
Mrs Sanford should smite him upside the head with her heaviest bible.
She knew he was there.I believe she agreed that he go and break it off but they both got caught cause why would any wife let there husbands go anywhere on fathers day.I believe when she was asked about his where abouts she then gave him up in a safe kinda way.And why did'nt the newspaper tell anyone about the Emails this would have never got this far.This why newspapers can not be trusted and maybe thats why there going under this goes to show you some will favor others.When you get "NEWS" you break the story no matter what thats what newspapers "DO" or they used too anyway.Whats happen to the newspapers there digging there own grave by not producing the "NEWS" when they get it,is anybody asking them why they did'nt release the Emails.Now this is PROTECTIONISM Fox news did it with Ensign Don't the republicans cry about protectionism well there getting the royal treatment with protectionism
Matt
You're back!
Mr. Sanctimonious, himself.
Prickly-
That's very funny
Coming from you.
Wow! I just had flash backs of Slick Willy Clinton getting his chrome polished in the oval office by Monica, and Hillary looking the other way.
You left wing loonies really pack up like dogs when someone that is a christian shows they have human frailties also.
Antoher flash back of a senator leaving a gal in the car filling with water, and was too concerned about his future as a senator, instead of a person drowing in his car.
But then again they're Demmies, and I had forgotten it's not their fault.
Oh yes, then there is Barny, well you get the idea, it was wrong and stupid, no law on being stupid, but there is for adultery, not a reason for him to step down from office, but I'm with Maria on this one.
The difference is that Bill never claimed to be better then anyone. He never sat in his office telling the rest of the world how he was God's chosen. How he was closer to God then the rest of us. He never used his morality (or lack thereof) to lord over others.
Bill likes his booz and his broads. And is big enough to admit it. This guy(s) Ensign/Sanford is/are a troll.
This isn't really even about them. It's about the hypocrisy.
Yes Johnny, whenever another hypocritic, "Christian", sanctimonious Republican gets caught doing what he tells others not to do it's time to drag Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy out of the closest.
That's what you people do. Every. Fucking. Time.
If I was his wife I would boot him out. He would never see his kids again. If he can't live by the morals he shoves down everyone elses throats he deserves NOTHING.
Mr. Fred G. Sanford: This is the big one Elizabeth! I'm comin' to join ya honey!
I have a solution for these politicians that would come closer to having them walk the line. Force all of the ones who are in or thinking about getting in to sign a legal document that if they get involved in any unlawful acts or scandals they have to go and go without anything. This would stop or at least get rid of the riff Raff in Washington. They should have to show a good example for the ones they are in control of. How can we trust any of them to pass laws when they break them.
Vote them out. That is the recourse we have.
Why should anyone
Ride moral shotgun over
Someone else's life.
It's their business until they
Abandon their state duties or
Pay their airfare with taxpayer money
Or preach to others about not doing
What they do.
Otherwise-
It's not my business
OR YOURS.
Whoa, Rita, put the shotgun down so nobody gets hurt!!! you get so bossy and self-righteous.
Read the comments
Again Prickly.
You got it bass ackwards.
The bottom line is, with or without her knowledge, Sanford cheated on his marriage vows and the mother of his four children.
If this affair was actually the great love of his life, and he wanted to make a grand romantic gesture, he should have filed for divorce, resigned his office and moved to Argentina.
He would have had some integrity, at the very least.
But this whining, public embarrassment of his family and most especially, his kids, after years of hypocritical morals policing is just trashy.
I imagine Mrs. Sanford would like very much to keep her children's family intact.
But I don't know if she can.
Or should.
He is in lust, infatuation. Call it what you want. It is not love. She is the grown up in the marriage. She's getting on with life. There won't be another marriage for Mrs. Sanford. She is Catholic and so will be forever wedded to Mark Sanford. He may end up in Argentina with his mistress, having abandoned his wife and children, but she will carry on, a good example to her children.
Geeze
Prickly-
You know it's not love?
How?
And your second point is equally ridiculous
Catholics have divorce-
It's just pricey and renamed
Annulment.
Rita -- Marriage is a sacrament in the Catholic faith. Sanford is not a Catholic, he cannot receive any sacrament unless he became a Catholic. Their religious marriage is in his Christian Church. For all practical purposes Jenny is "not married" according to Catholic cannon law. She needs no Catholic Church annulment.
I have no idea
What they are-
Prickly said Mrs.Sanford was Catholic
Hence my comment.
You sure they didn't marry in
'The Church'?
An annulment is time consuming and there is expense is involved when the church must ascertain that one of the persons did not whole-heartedly and with sound mind go into the marriage. The church asks recompense according to the energy and expense involved (and ability to pay) in researching the verity of the claims for annulment. Also if the marriage was never consummated, the marriage was never a marriage. With four offspring, seems there was some consummatin' going on.
The church recognizes all Christian marriages. In the church's view, Mrs. Sanford the Catholic will always be married to Mr. Sanford.
Rita -- By the way he talks and mingles with his fellow Bible congressional buddies, he's not a Cath. His bio lists him as Episcopalian. He would have had to convert to Catholicism, be baptized in Cath. Baptism, had Cath. Communion and on and on, to marry in Cath. church.
Have no idea if Cath. Church recognizes all Christian marriages. If all Christian marriages are recognized, it does not make Cath./Christian marriage a recognized Sacrament per se. You have got to be a Cath. to receive or perform the 7 Catholic Sacraments.
Mrs. Sanford married outside the Catholic rites. If she divorces and remarries, why would she take the trouble to marry within thhe Catholic church, unless her future husband is also a Catholic and asks her to marry like all good Catholics. She seems a practical person. She'll act in an appropriate manner.
Being Catholic doesn't have anything to do with never divorcing and remarrying. Look a Gingrich, he is own his third marriage after the Catholic Church annulled his second. I know any number of Catholics who are on their second or third marriage. The pope never condoned divorce but they hand those annulments out left and right. When the divorce rate topped 50%, they decided they couldn't afford to lose all those contributors.
I absolutely love this woman. She is the latest in a long line of wives that have been betrayed publically by their husbands but unlike the others (including Hillary) she has not allowed him to set the narrative. Some people after watching his rambling press conference, felt sympathy for him and labeled him "a fool in love" but Jenny with her statements have exposed him for exactly what he is, simply: a fool.
It always amazes me that men don't use their upper brain, no matter their age or sducation.Be rid of him...he has publicly embarrased himself, his family and his position in life.Just think how he condemned everyone else, preaching he was so conservative and wanted integrity in life and would lead the Republican party into power.HOGWASH!Send him to Argentina, strip him of his citizenship and let him toil in the fields.......................
In Sanford's case I assume by his "upper brain" you are referring to the one he keeps in his pants?
sr8's talking about the frontal lobe which is the part of the brain that deals with SELF CONTROL.
A politician's personal and public character are difficult to balance often being two conflicting roles developed into One Persona,One Act. Sanford's hubris, like so many of the high but not so mighty, is failure to maintain constant vigilance: to wit, leaving accessible emails and saving letters (?!) for prying eyes. Jenny steps into the arena, gives Mark the ultimatum to cease and desist. Sanford's spirit might have been willing but his flesh is weak. As with some brainy persons who have chosen, or are forced by circumstance, to be "silent" partners in political relationships (Hillary) their intelligence or acumen, naturally thickened, unable to stay at the bottom eventually rises to the top. And Jenny is no exception to that rule: 4 of the governor's aides ( i can't help but wonder if they were all men!), according to the NYT article, quit because they found her opinions obtrusive and she, herself, difficult to work with. Yeah, Mark's no saint, we all know that. But Jenny's role in this can not be, if one wants to be fair in rendering any final analysis, glossed over, either. The fact is that it takes two to tango. Jenny's diplomatic public persona may help her to lead in this dance now but one has got to understand how much does her personal/private persona play into this drama, too. Unfortunately for the Sanfords, the process of reconciliation will be examined beneath the lens of a gloating media.
boredwell -- It was the husband that skipped town, told Appallachia long stories, consorted with a woman not his wife, got caught at the airport where he made another long story about the Buenos Aires "coastline drive" and on and on...
Do not blame the wife for a man's stupidity. He did this to himself, to his wife, to his sons.
Without Jenny, the luv guv is nothing.
FINALLY A ROLE MODEL!
Good on you Mrs. Sanford! Way to show women everywhere, infidelity shouldn't be tolerated, condoned, forgiven or easy!
There are too many weasle dicks out there thinking infidelity is "ok!". It's not. Y'need to stray, divorce the wife, leave the kids, face the music that accompanies it and THEN do it. Your small, insignificant *needs* will never be excuse enough to hurt everyone around you.
Weak women get involved with married men. Strong women kick their a**es to the curb and move on to better. Go Jen!
I love how he compared himself to King David sleeping with Bathsheba, having her husband killed and staying king. Christians are starting to make me sick, they are the most judgemental, spiteful, angry, and hypocritical people I know.
Yea, what's up with that, anyway? Poor Uriah be damned!
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