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N. Korea Threatens Attack On U.S.
North Korea held a massive rally of 100,000 people Thursday dedicated entirely to talking trash about its enemies, specifically the U.S. Kim Jong-il's cronies went so far as to direct a threat of a "fire shower of nuclear retaliation" at South Korea and the U.S. The event commemorated the outbreak of the Korean War in 1950. Some of the rhetoric seemed very reminiscent of the turmoil in Iran, as the regime accused the U.S. of meddling in their domestic affairs. The rally was held in front of a U.S. spy ship captured in international waters in 1968, which remains prominently docked in Pyongyang as a trophy of North Korea's supposed dominance.



TigerJack
While I realize that this story, combined with the various reports from Iran, constitute serious news, these will just have to wait until the "Sanford Marriage" talk-a-thon ends.
rapierwits
Thank you, sir!
Progressive2
Yeah right they'll attack us with 1 nuclear bomb while we own 6000.
Come on get real these people are simply talking trash to make themselves feel better.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but their nuclear missal can't reach the U.S. right?
They can so far only go for 4.000 miles or something.
squiggy
they do sound pretty silly don't they, as if he can get one up! LOL
whipmawhopma
3953 nautical miles between Seoul and Honolulu, but 3301 nautical miles between Seoul and Anchorage. 3798 regular miles.
I used Seoul because Pyongyang doesn't seem to exist as far as the webpage I used to check distances is concerned.
http://www.indo.com/distance/index.html
Baked Alaska.
I am more worried about South Korea and Japan. The North Korean government is insane. Cunning, but insane.
Ritarita
They are not going to play
Their only card.
whipmawhopma
Did you see Kim Jong-il on the Daily Show last night? Or the repeat this evening? Pretty funny.
amapola101
progressie2,they are a joke but they could start a nuclear war.All we need is a lunatic who does not value,life,family,earth,the world,people, The disaster would be devastating and his young son is taking over....if we get a young lunatic,without age,experience patience,years,family,and we all might be facing disaster.Beware of the slanted eyes. It is written somewhere.
shortcourse
Who says it has to be a missile? It's probably already here...crossed the Mexican border some time ago...hidden in a suitcase...probably in your home town...or maybe yours...or could be yours.
SlaveRevolt
"N.Korea Theatens Attack On U.S." is the headline. But if one reads even the blurb attached below it one can easily see that North Korea threatened a "fire shower of nuclear retaliation". Implicit in the meaning of the word retaliation is that it is a response to someone ELSE'S attack, in other words a counterattack. Hence an accurate headline would be "N. Korea Threatens Nuclear Riposte", not a title suggesting N. Korea is saying it will make the first aggressive move. Though Daily Beast did get the sidebar description right as it certainly is pure saber-rattling.
mattbenzor
Does N.Korea realize we can wipe them of the map.And if i was president I would not mess around with the little crap it would be ballistic and not tomahawk do not waste men or weapons go "BIG" right off the bat put and end to it right away......! another words put the smack down on shorty.
Ritarita
Back to Nozz Matt Benzor.
squiggy
I get a chill right up my leg when you talk like..........ROFLMAO...........................
Mizoodle
*sigh* Is Kim Jong Il throwing a tantrum again?
Provoking people and then threatening to retaliate if you're attacked? Come on now...
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n--Y--charles116rapierwits
Really? Do you favor the mass murder of Koreans and Japanese out of ignorance or malice?
Keep not quoting George Bush.
Jingoism has a horrible place and it should be left in the past.
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n--Y--charles116Ritarita
Yeah charles-
Anytime you quote George Bush
You'll live to regret it-
He did.
rapierwits
So, will this retaliation be justifiable to Dear Leader and the generals if the U.S.S. John McCain gets too clse to that ship its following?
oliverckerr
I posted this weeks ago, from the michaelslevinson.com web site. Clearly nothing changes.
Wagging the North Korean Dog
St Petersburg, Fl. May 28, 2009
File film of the North Korean Army marching in their main square with "Great Leader," Kim Jong Il reviewing from the box above aired on MSNBC all day yesterday. Next time the file film plays, look at the chests of "Great leader's" goose stepping soldiers. Better than that:
Here is The Vice Guide to North Korea - a must see. http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1438428757
All the North Korean's uniforms are super starched. But the shirts do not hide the obvious: Great Leader's ground forces are all fat free and underweight - paper thin! We know an Army marches on its stomach. "Great Leader's" army is hungry, barely surviving on their one bowl of rice a day.
In an actual pitched battle against their brothers, south of the 38th parallel, (the issue 60 years ago, but not a happening possibility today), the North Korean army would collapse in just a few days. They do not have food reserves. - not enough to eat! Without food they cannot fight.
But their atomic bomb facility and missile delivery system doesn't require a bowl of rice a day. Well, the atomic engineers and plant technicians have to eat, but they are provided for, residing near the top of the North Korean who-eats-list!
We need to begin planning the elimination of the North Korean government, without delay, our goal a peaceful overthrow of Kim Jung Il's regime, killing as few people as possible - at most one hundred Korean military, but total destruction of all North Korean military installations without fail. Every military installation north of 38th parallel must be uniformly Humpty Dumptied, complete rubble, and this must take place, on the clock, in the dead of night, in one four hour non-stop stroke!
Upon that irrevocable destruction, a doable strategy, the North Koreans will wave the white flag signaling peace. Their two governments will immediately begin unification, uniting the Korean people! The Korean people North and South will endorse that plan, instantly flooding their streets. This is a plan that needs to start getting the wag! And why shouldn't the two Koreas be one again?
This should be president Obama's goal but this strategy / plan / idea requires creative thinking which is a prob limb. Obama is a winner. He is not a leader, nor is Obama a creative thinker. Creative thinkers are a rarity. Were Obama such a person he would not be out in the afternoon, with his secret service entourage, on a cheeseburger expedition.
Barack Obama is clearly quick minded. He studied hard for all his exams, and like his wife, Michelle, scored well. He is a winner, but not a leader. Obama wears eye shadow for most of his tele-prompter sprechens. What's up with that?
Obama has an inner circle. Someone there, a make up artist talked him into wearing eye shadow. Manipulating how the "leader" is viewed, by the leader's staff, is manipulation not leadership.
A winner (of a political race) is only the winner of the race, not necessarily a true leader, risen from the people, who sees down the road which path to take. The leader in the polls leading up to the election may be triumphant in the vote, but an election winner does not a world leader make.
In that sense, the world is leaderless. Is their anyone on today's world stage showing the way to World Peace and food chain harmony? There is not. World Peace is above all of their pay grades!
We don't poll this World Peace issue because we know the world's peoples overwhelmingly want exactly that, world pizza, though standing in the way of world peace are status quo bureaucracies, which politishinz of every stripe support.
Having said this much as an introductory, here is what we should do about Kim Jung-Il: In the dead of bitter winter - the middle of January, seven, eight months away - plenty of time to gear up - we should bomb the main square in Pyongyang, without any warning, (but obviously, as is being shown, plenty of advance warning), specifically using those heavy weight 500 pound bombs that create those monster craters - using up a baker's half dozen of the conventional monster bombs, all around the main square in Pyongyang, where the video above shows "Great Leader" reviewing his troops.
We do this at 4:00 a.m., when Pyongyang bureaucracy is soundly asleep and absolutely no one is around! One half baker's dozen monster 500 pound bombs in the Pyongyang Square and not one person killed. I like that. You should, too.
This baker's bombing in the dead of night will have the effect of blowing out every window for blocks around. The square is surrounded by government buildings, so the government will in effect be frozen out of business - shut down - because every building will be ice cold and freezing. Computers will not work when the temperature is 20 degrees below zero. Nor do people work very well in ice cold conditions.
A key wag option: Parachute in 20 South Korean commandos, or American commandos of Korean decent, who fluently speak native Korean, "The Unit" to seize the main television station, so immediately Korean talking heads begin broadcasting Peace and the regime of "Great Leader" collapsing, a news event, with repeated "file film" of "Great Leader" ( a wag dog look alike) boarding a plane with US logos, flying to USA (film of the plane landing in Montana), this broadcast to the whole North Korean population, taking into account the only people with televisions are government employees.
This proposed "file film", placed on the air by our South Korean commandos who seize the TV station will win the disinformation war. Each of the current war theaters has it's own play. In Iraq, whoever controls the roads and borders, wins. In Afghanistan, whoever controls the poppy field harvest, wins. In North Korea, whoever controls what the North Koreans see and hear. . . wins.
We need every nuclear submarine in our own Red October fleet to stealthily move along the North Korean coast. Though Hillary Rodham Clintstone could be the arranger, this is diplomacy beyond the Clintstone scope: The diplomatic key insuring success is our invitation to the Russians and Chinese they join with us, their submarine fleets also engaged in a coordinated attack, as we are all together in the same boat!
So multiply all of the above maneuvers, and whatever else we decide on doing, by three.
The issue of the three is the overriding diplomatic wag dog key - our ace - for the North Koreans to go our way - lay down their arms without losing face, or ceeding any rights, except "Great Leaders" imagined right to oppress the people. One of the issues raised by Washington's talking head bureaucrats is the Chinese unwillingness to participate, because China doesn't want millions of Korean refugees crossing the Yalu river into China.
That is so bogus because the demolition of all the North Korean military installations will be accomplished in four grueling dead of night moonless hours. Excluding "The Unit," two dozen commandos who seize the radio and TV stations, we are not invading that country with any troops on the ground.
The Korean people are not going to pick up and run to the Yalu River and the Chinese border when no one is shooting or chasing them. Our goal does not include attacking and killing people, but for potentially a very very few, and with the wag-dog media blitzkreig we won't have to kill anybody!
Once we very publicly invite the Chinese to participate in a solution eight months away, they cannot refuse to participate without loosing face in their own sphere of influence. A united Korea is not a threat to China, rather a trading partner and potential outlet for Chinese goods sold to the North Koreans and paid for by the south.
Then at 4:00 a.m. on the appointed night in bitter January, we cruise with our submarine missiles all at once and hit every airfield hangar in North Korea. With our B-52's, at the same moment we hit every airfield with our 500 pound monster bombs, to create huge pot holes on all their airport runways so any jet fighters that survive our cruise missile attack on their airplane hangars can't take off anyway.
Bottom line: planes and airfields demolished. Fighter pilots and supporting people live.
At the same time, using infra red tech, at the 38th parallel, we, (us guys, the Rooskies, and the shiny Cheyenne-Easy), hit every building that has a stove blasting. Those would be the buildings where the army commanders are hanging out. The North Korean commanders have plenty fuel for their stoves.
All the other barracks where the lowly one-bowl-of-rice-a-day enlisted are living will be low heat because they don't have enough fuel. Those soldiers will be curled under their covers. We are targeting only the warmest barracks.
Our purpose: take out the 38th parallel commanders so an order to attack South Korea cannot be given. One hundred commanders put down should do the trick up and down the whole 38th parallel.
One hundred heroes die a million Korean lives are saved.
We could target all of the equipment up and down the 38th and hit everything at once, first. After their airfields are made inoperable we own the skies and can safely carpet bomb their frozen equipment, with our B-52's, well out of surface to air missile range, at the same time a million leaflet blizzard, floating down with free lunch for a month coupons at Seoul's KFC's and McDonalds.
There is nothing for anyone to fear of an attack on South Korea by the North Korean army, crammed as they are at the border, whether or not we take out the North Korean command posts. Although the North Koreans are only 20 miles from Seoul, their trucks and tanks won't start in the sub-zero January cold. All of the truck and tank batteries, the majority of them are down in the bitter cold Korean dead of winter. The vehicles are merely for show, battery dead in their winter tracks.
Where there are hundreds of vehicles - trucks and tanks - only a very few go out on any border patrol. The North Koreans don't have enough fuel to start the trucks and tanks every day to keep the batteries charged!
At the same time, supplementing the leaflets everywhere along the whole 38th parallel, radio announcements and loudspeakers from accross the way, inviting the North Korean Army to immediately march south waving white flags and expect a hot lunch when they get to the suburbs of Seoul. Also expect to start tomorrow working in the KIA factory.
Through diplomatic channels we offer "Great Leader" an olive branch, that, a ripe take it or leave it deal, from us to him: 500 acres in Montana for "Great Leader" Kim and his entourage. Kim Jung Il can also bring along with his entourage of Playboy babes and bureaucrats, his pornography and Hollywood film collection, his wine cellar, and his stunning wardrobe.
The most important element - the key to our success, is all of the above can be embossed in an illustrated loose leaf notebook and presented to the "Jap-Sin-Easy," The "Rooskies", and the shiny "Cheyenne- Easy," for them to absorb, and then pass along, through diplomatic channels to "Great Leader" Kim, giving Kim ample lead time to consider the actual guaranteed consequence of his nuclear pretense.
Kim has a non-negotiable choice: 500 acres in Hefner, Montana, compliments of Ted Turner, or permanent visit with Saddam the Big Salami. The proposed loose leaf notebook will do the trick for our success! What will producing a half dozen super seek writ attack plan dog wag notebooks cost?
The North Korean and South Korean people dream of living in peace, as one people. Standing in the way is the vicious son of a vicious buffoon, also known as "Great Leader,' and the bureaucracy the father created and son extended.
The above approach was featured in a great movie, a few years ago, entitled, "Wagging the Dog." When Kim explodes his A bomb a lot of dangerous nuclear dust is going to blow over China, Japan, and Russia. The people living in that part of the world don't want that. Would you? These other neighboring countries do not fear a United Korea. The Veitnamese, Cambodians and Laotions would love nothing better.
What can be wrong with producing a loose leaf notebook with graphic examples of what we are capable of doing - the above plan our plan - without involving any of our troops or actually killing any Koreans, except suggesting a few 38th parallel commanders, and that written up as only a possibility. With the right kind of television on their screens, all the 38th parallel commanders will raise the white flags themselves and lead their troops on an orderly march south.
The North Korean people are slowly starving to death! The program stated above will spring wide the door to solving that prob limb. Played right, we won't have to take even one life, which must be our goal. The whole Far East will rejoice. Won't we all be better off as peacemakers instead of war mongers?
The answer of course is yes.
Centrist
Maybe you should apply for a job at the U.N.. I don't think the Daily Beast is taking applications for a bloviating amateur diplomat/self-proclaimed military genius position.
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n--Y--joebloesquiggy
ritarita, please have a talk with your pet about the long, drawn out scrolls! Geez, I'm to enjoy
oliverckerr
Centrist ! Clearly you do not recognize your own prob limb: You write: "I don't think. . . " Correct. You don't think. The article is about producing a three ring notebook in explicit color showing what could happen. In war, chess is the game. When it is clear you are out of moves, the game ends.
The Chinese have a whole lot invested in US. Our government needs to make it clear exactly what we are going to do. In the event they don't like it - then join us and it won't have to happen. Peace in the region is in the Chinese self interest!
Levinson sees a way to accomplish that - it is creative. You are not. Your bloviating is boring - you offer nothing of consequence - you fail to contribute to any discourse.
Joeblow: Awww Joe has a sore finger. Scroll. Squigg! Stick it.
Centrist writes, "Let us also fervently hope. . . " "Hope" is a nope. Hope is for the poor.
With the word "hope" doubt is built in. The Chinese have hundreds of billions invested in US and in a continuing economic relationship. They have nothing invested in North Korea, beyond similar though outmoded communist socialist government.
But the Chinese military bureaucracy likes North Korea. The explicit three ring loose leaf notebook will wag the dog leading someone in North Korea to take down Kim without an outside shot being fired. That possibility, based on a loose leaf notebook, is simply too creative for you.
Centrist
This article has a lot in common with the Perez Hilton affair. They both relate to childish bullying, name calling and the social and political consequences of same. The North Korean government seems to collectively posess the emotional maturity of a 14 year old boy. But, as we have seen in numerous school shooting tragedies, even small boys can cause deadly harm. and they don't have atomic weapons and ballistic missles. Unfortunately, the U.S. is not in a position to make a pre-emptive strike. Let's just hope not too many people in Western democracies die before the NK's are put out of their misery. Let us also fervently hope that the Chinese government doesn't weigh in on the side of the NK's and precipitate WWIII when the U.S. is forced to a military response.
whipmawhopma
It seems to work for the North Koreans. So far.
amapola101
Centrist you said what I am trying to say.They dont need 4000 nuclear bombs. All we need is one real lunatic,without concern for anyone anything or nothing,and we wind up with wwlll,......and all our lives,childrens lives,future lives,our planet,etc.Scary.!!we have a real problem with NK,and the problem is that people think that they are not a problem.
barkersboobs
Sssssslow news day and now the weather.
magoo363
Kim is getting ready to give his power to his son. He has to show that North Korea still has a little power left in its arsenal, even if it is just all bark.
boredwell
Kim and his NK cadre continue to spout their boilerplate anti-American tropes with threats. Yet they seem to leave a loophole because mention is always made to the "sanctions imposed" by the UN and US. Big Brother, China, may allow Kim and company to act up but will it give him them the green light to act out and blow S Korea and Hawaii off the planet? Since the Hermit Kingdom has little money and resources, some infusion of good-old capitalist money might just convince them that their future lies in cellphones, flat screen tvs, toxic pesticides and MacDonalds. France has been storing its nuclear waste in underground caves in Breton for decades waiting for a scientific solution to neutralize the radioactive material. Look no more, France, Kim will surely be happy to say, "Bring 'em on!"
cregis
Why is North Korea the USA's problem? I don't care about South Korea and Japan. Both countries have been able to produce cars that compete with American cars. Yes, I know GM's troubles didn't all come from foreign competition. It's time for Japan and South Korea and Europe to start spending on their own defense.
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