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Obama: Uncensored Internet Is Good
Has President Obama set China on the path toward LOL cats, pornography, and, well, Obama? The American president endorsed an uncensored Internet in a meeting with Chinese students in Shanghai on Monday, lauding the tool that helped launch him to the White House. "I think that the more freely information flows, the stronger the society becomes, because then citizens of countries around the world can hold their own governments accountable," Obama said. "They can begin to think for themselves." Not surprisingly, Obama’s words were broadcast within China only on local Shanghai TV and two Internet broadcasts that the Associated Press says were “choppy and hard to hear.”
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isn't obama the one talking about censoring are internet ?
This DH has no shame.
And you make no sense and have no relevance. Nice that you're working on your spelling. I suppose capitalization and punctuation and general coherence would be too much to ask.
Disorder did get the DH right.
I think what disorder is talking about is the fear the ultra conservative Christians have about the Fair Communications act. They have this conspiracy theory (don't they always) whereby Obama is going to use it for censorship against conservative talk radio, and then branch out to stifle the internet, and then of course, TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! *maniacal laughter*
As always with Obama and the Dems, what they say doesn't match what they do:
"Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.......or a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors....the 55-page draft of S.773 .... appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of all private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency."
It will be interesting to see if the democrats pass this bill allowing Obama to take complete control and censor the internet upon his declaration of an "emergency."
The ignorance is just mind-boggling. I would love to study where besides the Beast users such as Demsd, Plant, etc. get their information from. Or is their reality filter just that powerful?
And this guy says he was an NYPD cop.
A few months ago Plantkin actually provided a link to hotair.com as documentation for one of his lies. Thus, one surmises that a Plantin source is Michelle Malkin herself.
Nonplussed, You might try watching cable news and you'd know where we get a lot of our info. that you will never get on the liberal stations. Bet you did not even know about ACORN until a week or two after the video's were shot. I know you did not if
you watched ABC, CBS, MSNBC, or NBC. See, they basically ignore any of the news that makes the Obama Adm. look bad. Start watching FNC and you'll understand where Plant probably gets his news.
Tell that to the UK, Europe, Asia and especially China.
"I'm a big supporter of non-censorship," Obama said. "I recognize that different countries have different traditions. I can tell you that in the United States, the fact that we have free Internet - or unrestricted Internet access is a source of strength, and I think should be encouraged."
I don't see any talk of censorship here. (unless you mean his support of non-censorship).
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
November 23, 2008
Get ready for a push for "reasonable" restrictions on the internet. It appears Obama's presumptive choice for AG will be Eric Holder, a former Clinton Justice Department official. As the corporate media throws confetti and heralds the possibility of America's first black AG, it ignores something more sinister lurking beneath the surface: in 1999, Holder advocated internet regulation. On May 28, 1999,
Whats your point? Last time I looked Eric Holder was AG, and I think I'm right that the AG doesn't make laws. I also haven't heard Obama say he wanted to regulate the internet, in fact he just said the opposite. Now I know there are some right wing repugs who would love to regulate the internet. The Christian right would love to get the porn and the progressive blogs. The talk about regulating the internet is not coming from the left, its coming from the right.
didn't the AG just decide to send that scum here to be tried??
Once again, whats your point? The Justice Department by bringing common criminal mass murders to trial is what the Justice Department does. They don't make laws, they enforce laws.
The only person who is pushing to have net neutrality abolished is....Republican Senator John McCain.
http://mashable.com/2009/10/22/john-mccain-wants-to-block-fccs-net-neutr ality-rules/
I love how so many conservative whackos are, all of a sudden, huge supporters of Alex Jones.. because he is so anti-government (new world order) and all... but where were they when he was just a raving lunatic on public access?
Actually my favorite Orwell quote is his desciption of liberals. Orwell said the typical liberal is "a power worshipper without power."
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/georgeorwe137307.html
Orwell was a very perceptive man.
Try the cyber security act which is making it's way through congess, will take control of the internet.
"A bill to ensure the continued free flow of commerce within the United States and with its global trading partners through secure cyber communications, to provide for the continued development and exploitation of the Internet and intranet communications for such purposes, to provide for the development of a cadre of information technology specialists to improve and maintain effective cybersecurity defenses against disruption, and for other purposes."
That's the cyber security act as it stands now but it has a long way to go before it's put into effect and I'm sure by then, the necessary changes will be made.
"The Secretary of Commerce- shall have access to all relevant data concerning (critical infrastructure) networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access..." This is the part that has many up in arms. We have other fed regs that control much of our daily lives and unless you're really afraid of the government you won't see the bogeyman here.
"There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live-did live, from habit that became instinct-in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."
--George Orwell
Plant's favorite line from the book is: Ignorance Is Strength
but the Thought Police is a private company, a branch of Xe that has a contract with the government.. and the Dream Police are a branch of the Though Police and get most of their funding from royalty checks from sales of 'Live at Budokan'...
Actually my favorite Orwell quote is his desciption of liberals. Orwell said the typical liberal is "a power worshipper without power."
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/georgeorwe137307.html
The term "power worshipper" describes nort and his fellow liberals very well----
it kind of describes the whining mass of (so called) conservatives pretty well right now... doesn't it??
I can see where orwell is going with that, but it kind of assumes that the bitches that liberals have with those who are power hungry are out of jealousy.. and that may be the case with some.. others are more humanitary, sociological, philisophical..
but then, you must desire power to gain power.. some seek power with no real desire, and they get disgruntled and turn against the system when they fail.. some of them are liberals.. but you may as well say all black people are lazy.
Hi Phil:
Nope....George Orwell had it right and you've got it wrong.
Orwell's description of liberals as "Power worshippers" describes the whining mass of (so called) liberals pretty well right now... doesn't it??
For instance, liberals claim to support abortion rights, but when Pelosi passes a healthcare bill with a ban on federal payments for abortions its suddenly OK because Obama is in power and he applauded it and liberals worship Obama.
And...liberals claim to be against war, but now the war in Afghanistan is OK but Obama is in power and liberals worship Obama.
And....liberals claim to be against the Patriot Act, but now the Patriot Act is OK because it was Obama who wanted it re-authroized and liberals worship Obama.
And....liberals claim to be against insider deals for the big banks but now its OK for Geithner to be on the phone constantly with the big banks to help them with inside deals because Obama picked Geithner and liberals worship Obama.
etc etc.
Liberals are willing to abandon their so-called principles when Obama discards them, because liberals are power worshippers and Obama is in power.
I don't know of any liberals who are for any of the things you mentioned.. maybe some of the fence sitting reets what call themselves liberals blindly follow Obama... but just as the loud people who call themselves conservatives are really just dittohead losers and glen beck fans ...just because you voted for Obama, wear patchouli, and get mad at anyone who says Bill Mahr is an arrogant asshole, doesn't make you a liberal.. well maybe it does, but it doesn't make you informed..
and one more thing,
I guess you didn't like my Cheap Trick reference? I thought it was pretty clever.... I'm hurt.
Uncensored Internet Is Good
If only ???????----- Dream on America ??????????
Yesterdays rampant censorship in the USA has resulted in today's "dumbed down"Americans.
Iraq , Afghanistan ,Pakistan , Iran ,Gaza , Lebanon etc etc .
60 years of violent Ethnic Cleansing culminating in a threat to Nuke Gaza by Israel goes unmentioned in the USA and anyone reporting it is deemed an a Antisimite.????
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"America is a quarter of a billion people totally misinformed and disinformed by their government.
This is tragic but our media is -- I wouldn't even say corrupt -- it's just beyond telling us anything that the government doesn't want us to know." Gore Vidal.
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Hahaha! That was a good one Housebird.
But curiously you misspelled the word "antisemite." Funny----I would think you'd know that word well.
Any American not condemning Jewish Atrocities in Gaza recently is a collaborator.
That will include our resident "pédant" Plantagenet and 90 % of the US Congress.
The Goldstone Report written by a Zionist Jew tells the truth but Americans are blind.
Americans in general are totally ignorant about is happening in Palestine and Jews could care less.
Amongst American Heroes is one and his name is Dennis Kucinich.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/pressure.html
http://tinyurl.com/nzwlpn
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Opening up an all encompassing Internet is good for China. The internet freedom that is experienced in America will have the Chinese consumer watching and spending more. There are different strokes for different folks and a free Internet will provide it.
Is an uncensored net a good thing? Perhaps. Then again, perhaps not: just look at the comments on this site.
Agreed. Unfortunately, censorship will not increase information flow nor intellect.
just more hits for "charlie bit me- autotuned" on youtube
We are responsible for our society and generation. And their is something like the internet, which is not able to control we should regulate it. The moral of the society is going down, cause there is to much brutality and violance in the web, or such kinds of pornography of children or for example computer games, which nobody really needs, whatever. The consequence of it is , that more and more teenagers become criminals or will not be able finish a good education and will not be able to become employees. Internet should be more efficient controlled and scensored.
Are some of you under the delusion that the Internet in the United States is not censored? LOL
So tell me...Is the government censoring the internet? If so, how and by who?
It's just a matter of time.
The cyber security act.
Nice try Winston, maybe you should try reading the cyber security act first.
To continue, first off there is only a first draft of a bill by Rockefeller and Olympia Snow. As of yet there has been no bill that has come before any committee in the Senate. There are things in the first draft that will need changing, but like all bills this is only a first working draft.
Censorship in a free society will never last for long. You can try to shut down sources for truth but the people who are willing to search will find a way to get it and pass the information along even under the threat of imprisonment. This is not to say that we do not need to watch and question our government. Unfortunately we must now even question our printed text books, news and broadcast media. Regardless the truth is still available in some form and it will keep us free.
Do you really think that all the Chinese people believe only what the government reports? However, there is a difference between knowing the truth and being able to do something about it. Mao disarmed the Chinese population in 1938. Chinese government is no different than the US government. In the US 535 people in DC decide the direction for 300 million people. Right or wrong. In China it is probably the same for their 1.2 billion.
Over time in a free society the "Truth Will Set You Free". In a communist society tyranny will not stand forever. However, without guns it will take longer.
so you've never heard of some hot story of corruption or some strange happening reported or caught on tape and went right to your computer only to find that it was mysteriously removed?? not by the government but by the ISP, because of pressure from their parent company..
really.. it is strange that some people believe that the world is STILL run by governments.. something that hasn't been true since the 1700's..
Perhaps Obama speaks to specific Chinese blocking of internet content, but to imply that the internet should be totally uncensored, which I doubt is what Obama means, is really a Pandora's box except, unlike it's mythical counterpart, it can perhaps be unplugged.
Citizens of countries around the world can hold their own governments accountable," Obama said
What a crock!
Look at the congress, and all the special interests, hold them accountable my butt.....cheez!
When President Obama takes one of his international trips, it makes me feel so darn proud to be an American!
Bowing to heads of other countries is a major mistake, that sure in hell doesn't make me proud.
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I think the thrust of Obama's comments to the Chinese revolves mostly around politics. As in Iran, when things go politically wrong they shut down the web and that needs to stop. Also, as in Iran, cell phones seemed to be a way around all that.
You don't get how a totalitarian society operates. In China government-controlled companies own the cell phone companies and they monitor the calls.
Unlike the USA where the govt secretly partners with private cel phone companies to monitor calls, which is against the very laws the govt. institutes to supposedly "protect privacy"...
Yes, quite unlike the US. In the US the courts, congress and the press then investigate the misuse of government power.
In totalitarian systems like China or Cuba, there is no indendent press, congress or courts to investigate.
Do you get it now?
And yet, somehow, some way, news is dessiminated. It's not all doom and gloom as Plant would like to picture it. Iran is a perfect example. We saw more thru cell phones than their government would have liked.
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Good grief. Obama has been systematically destroying us piece by Pelosi piece since he got into power, and he is showing his subserviance to other leaders when he bows, so who is he really serving?
Bottom line is he is polished, he is well spoken, and he is a man who wants to "change" America into a third world nation.
Those of you who support him blindly, remember this as just one of the days of his two faced positioning, and when the dust settles, hope there is something left of America to clean up and "change".
Nice substance-free post expressing your Fear of the unseen forces that are mysteriously conspiring to keep you from having the important place in society that you are convinced that you merit.
Your post instantly makes me think "Did you like living under the Bush administration?" I have to wonder what you think Obama has done that is so terrible that Bush didn't do worse? Bush did illegal snooping via wiretaps, had the Abu Ghraib embarrassment, started a war under false pretenses in Iraq, and on and on.
Additionally, I don't think that those who voted for Obama support him blindly. That's the kind of non-statement many like to make to discredit not only Obama but those that voted for him as though they are mindless chickens. Here's where I have to refer back to Bush: did his supporters blindly vote and follow? Are they also mindless chickens. I think when you put Obama up against Bush for systematically destroying or doing harm to this country, Bush wins hands down.
I watched, at midnight last night, Barack Obama
at a town hall meeting with university students in Shanghai.
It such a pleasure to hear him talk and watch him
interact with his audience.
He is impeccably polished and articulate and is really such a marvelous representative of this country.
One needs to consider the last President, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and acting like damn bull in the china shoppe. I watched Bush slap the Chancellor of Germany on the back and cringed... I am glad that part of our history is over.
IOf course the usual critics are screaming today about everything Obama. It is my hope that the eternal critics all have ulcers by the end of this Presidents two terms.
Are you hoping that the millions of people who have lost their jobs on Obama's watch get ulcers too?
The jobs have been lost slowly over the past 8 years. Not on Obama's watch.
Appleseed... you need to look around and see where, in fact, many people are held accountable for their misdeeds.
Remember the Senator with a hundred thousand dollars in the freezer... he just got sixteen years in the pen. You probably have not been reading the newspapers... you need to see the dozens of Wall St. thieves have already been found guilty and are on their way to the pen. You need o stop being so negative. You will live longer.
Remember Kozlowski - 25 years..And the Congressman from California... jeez... he got eleven years and gave up almost fifty million dollars. This is big country with four hundred million people... difficult to convict them all... but they are making a valient effort.
It is great to have an uncensored Internet as long as you censor cable news channels.
Fox news is #1
No, they have too many viewers--that must mean that they are MAINSTREAM MEDIA!
You are right, fox snooze is #1 with the 55 and older crowd. Most people under 55 have much better things to do then watch any of the cable snooze channels.
I think we've discovered the source of your disorder.
no need to censor them, just make them accountable the same way they do with other products.. you can't sell sh!t and call it shinola, but on TV you can call anything News..
Uncensored Internet...where many people do get their news....is keeping Obama from brainwashing the whole world.
winston1
Try the cyber security act which is making it's way through congess, will take control of the internet.
**********Poor Fearful and Suspicious Winston! And where were you complaining when your boy Bush installed the Patriot Act?
If you want to impress me please send me information about where Barack Obama said he was going to censor the Internet.
Seems you just post the first thing that appears on your braindead screen.
And read the Cybersecurity Act of 2009. Of course, with your poor rancid mind you will be more afraid than ever. You think everything the Democrats sponser is something terrible.
You need to get over that.
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Where were you when your guy Obama extended the Patriot Act?
zzzzzzzing!
Obama from brainwashing the whole world.
*********Jeez... where do all the idiots come from... and some how they all learned to type.
That is a first for the world.....
no child left behind
About the eternal polls on the AOL sites.
On World Net, Daily... these past weeks... intermittently... directions to the Lunatic Fringe on how to access polls, and regardless of what the poll is about... vote NO to anything Democrat or Barack Obama.
So do not waste your time... just another farce!
Criticizing Fox News has nothing to do with criticizing the press. Fox News is not a news organization. It is the de facto leader of the GOP, and it is long past time that it was treated as such by our nation's media.
And if you think it is only the over 55 that watch Fox... you should remember that Palin, the darling of Fox... is not 55. Either is the crazy woman from Minnesota Bauckmann.Most people under 55 have better things to do. How funny!
Yeah, they are watching Gossip Girl and
the Godsselins.
Of course this whole article is posted here only as troll bait. Obama tells Chinese uncensored internet is good. Great, who could disagree with that? Nobody. Who would bother to comment on it? But it gives nudniks a jumping off point for their weirdness.
now we see what the "nudniks' are saying... can't wait to hear what the "pud-nits" will say..
He whines about Fox but has no problem with the Internet? One has to wonder if he's gotten a full whiff of the Internet, including what his own ilk say on it regularly.
I sent my democratic congressperson an email
Now i get emails directly from the President
how the F did Little Miss Sunshine get my email adress I do not know
but each time I politely ask to be removed from his email address, but he doesnt seem to listen... to busy kow-towing to the emporer of china
It is really hard to beleive there are so many stupid people on this site.Do you people think we where in a better life when the bushwacker was makeing all of us look like total ass,s all over the world.This Prez inherited a load crap built over 8 years,its going to take him a couple to fix it.If you cannot say something intelligent,and informed please stay off of this site.
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