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The Precious Backlash

CS - Precious

While the media cheers the new movie Precious from director Lee Daniels, Armond White of the New York Press has a few objections. The critic says that the story of an African-American teenager who is raped by her father and abused by her mother is a vehicle of “exploitation and opportunism” for Daniels and executive producers Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry. Daniels, according to White, is a “shrewd pathology pimp” whose film is an “orgy of prurience.” “Not since The Birth of a Nation has a mainstream movie demeaned the idea of black American life as much as Precious,” White writes. White's final complaint is the film tricks white audiences into believing that it portrays an authentic African-American existence. “Some people,” he concludes, “like being conned.”

Posted at 11:04 AM, Nov 6, 2009
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Nonplussed

BS. That's fiction, jackass. It is both true and embellished.

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11:27 am, Nov 6, 2009

NewyorkerR

who give a shit?

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12:09 pm, Nov 6, 2009

hfb1053

Newporker - I definitely would not think you would care about this at all. Why post?

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1:11 pm, Nov 6, 2009

NewyorkerR

movies when we have real troubles in this country seems a tad trivial. dont know what its all about and don't care its just a movie. and your right i never should have posted That's it.

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3:43 pm, Nov 6, 2009

roger37

Oh-h-h-h. Poor booby.

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6:51 pm, Nov 6, 2009

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7:24 am, Nov 7, 2009

piktor

A snip from Mr. White's review:

"...Flashbacks to Precious' rape contain a curious montage of grease, sweat, bacon and Vaseline. Later, he intercuts a shot of pig's feet cooking on a stove with Precious being humped while her mother watches from a corner. Another misjudged scene recreates De Sica's B&W Two Women-a half-camp trashing of motherhood that compounds the problem of cultural alienation. So does the film's Ebonics credit sequence and the scene of Precious rotating amidst a bombardment of success icons-Martina Arroyo, MLK, Shirley Chisholm-to which she either relates or is ignorant.This incoherence should not pass for sociology.

Not since The Birth of a Nation has a mainstream movie demeaned the idea of black American life as much as Precious. Full of brazenly racist clichés (Precious steals and eats an entire bucket of fried chicken), it is a sociological horror show. Offering racist hysteria masquerading as social sensitivity, it's been acclaimed on the international festival circuit that usually disdains movies about black Americans as somehow inartistic and unworthy."...

Mr. White misses the larger point: this is a story of humanity's inhumanity. This story is as close to Greek tragedies as you can get, it is a universal story. Yet Mr. White seems offended by the actor's skin color and ethnicity and other "so what?" complaints about movie history, in a bad way.

Mr. White's review tells more about his mundane gripes and frustrations than about the work discussed here. Nobody cares.

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12:26 pm, Nov 6, 2009

Jaygim

That's precisely White's point: we're tired of stories parading "humanity's inhumanity." Could it be that we can actually start making works of art that does the opposite: shed light into inhumanity's humanity?

Also, pretty presumptious to compare Precious to a Greek tragedy. Universal? Really? If you did a focus screening of viewers in Kuala Lumpur, Seoul, Karachi, or Capetown, and come to that conclusion, sure. But your sweeping statement just proves White's point: that, Precious is a highly contextualized, if not crudely caricatured story that takes place in Harlem, NY, a very particular portrayal. If you agree with Daniels' render, and believe that's the authentic image of Black life to the world, so be it. But I'd hardly call objections to that -- including White's -- "mundane."

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1:38 pm, Nov 6, 2009

Noontime

Jaygim:

I think you overestimate Armond White's sincerity. This movie is already one of the most discussed films of the year. As its momentum grows, and we get closer to the Oscars, even more people will sing its praises.

As such, Armond White has taken it upon himself to be the oh so clever contrarian. He knows its a great film, but everyone will say that. So White goes the other way, referencing Birth of a Nation, perhaps the single most racist film in our nation's history...really, Mr. White?...
This is not an original technique, of course. But when creative insight fails, and you reallly have nothing interesting to add to the conversation, and you want to stand out...just go against the norm.

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3:58 pm, Nov 6, 2009

Jaygim

Noontime.
Point taken. White's not perfect and at times, he's missed the mark by trying too hard to over-interpret. But I hardly think the Oscars, Toronto, or worse, the self-serving marketing hype of Sundance should be the criteria for a film's merit or success. Just do a probe of who it is that serves on those juries and then (sigh) we have to come crawling back to White's point about "liberal condescension and guilt."

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4:12 pm, Nov 6, 2009

hfb1053

It's a story; one of many, some good stories, some sad stories, some bad stories, but nevertheless just a story. No one said it was non-fiction. Mr White needs to get over himself.

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1:13 pm, Nov 6, 2009

darcman

As a African American this is definitely a movie I will be avoiding! Nothing make a white person feel better about themselves than a film about pathetic Negroes! Since the average white person has absolutely no social interactions white Blacks they will take this film literally! As in every black family is like this one! Miserable and dysfunctional! Next!

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1:16 pm, Nov 6, 2009

cbeenthere

I resent that quite frankly, darcman, should we think that way about all dramas?

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2:30 pm, Nov 6, 2009

whipmawhopma

darcman - Excellent point. I had forgotten that because I am completely stupid, utterly unperceptive and such a total racist to boot, that I would just end up generalizing about everything I might see in this movie to be what actually happens in every black family in America. Thank God we have you here to save us average white persons from our evil, evil selves, at least in this regard.

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6:12 pm, Nov 6, 2009

PinkoLefty

"Nothing makes a white person feel better about themselves than a film about pathetic Negroes!"

So we're supposed to only see the Huxtables and Malcolm X?

"Since the average white person has absolutely no social interactions white Blacks they will take this film literally!"

First of all, the film is meant to be taken literally. It's not a freakin' allegory. It's a fictional story of the abusive treatment of a young black woman written by a black woman. Secondly, here I was thinking that I was average. Do my associations make me above average, or below? Do I have to go to "Real America" to find an average white person? I don't think I know any. Let me know if you manage to capture one of these in the wild.

"As if every black family is like this one! Miserable and dysfunctional! Next!"

This is precisely why I avoided "Talladega Nights." You probably still think we all work at the race track.

I'm sensing a lot of hate out of your post, given its tone and capitalization. Let it go before it kills you. You should try not to let your race define you completely. When I get up in the morning I don't think to myself, "Well...another day as a white man...life sure is sweet!" I get the feeling that you put on the angry, militant victim stance before you even get to your pants.

My experiences in the south span nearly forty years. Even as late as the early nineties I used to hear slurs and other garbage when in the presence of an all-white crowd. It's been years since I heard anyone spout off like that. It's simply not tolerated anymore. In my experience, the vast preponderance of people really don't discriminate much on the basis of race anymore, but assholes are still fair game.

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6:22 pm, Nov 6, 2009

Mercy1981

This is one story of many stories of the AA experience. The problem is there are so FEW black movies. It seems like this speaks for all of them.

Abuse and illiteracy crosses many cultures.

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1:45 pm, Nov 6, 2009

jaydeekay

There are "FEW" black movies?

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12:52 am, Nov 7, 2009

iamglenbeck

How does she know thats her daddy?

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1:50 pm, Nov 6, 2009

DedicatedDiva

Although I have not seen the movie, I have seen enough of life in my 47 years to say that the folks on this comment thread that are upset about the depiction sound like snobs to me. How dare you dismiss this story as not being representative of black life or life in general. How can you be so dismissive on the heels of the discovery of the girl that was kidnapped and held for 20 years and similar stories. Is it the norm, no. Are there real "Prescious' of the world, yes. Just because you don't believe it does not mean it isn't true. Stop being so dismissive and start doing something proactive.

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1:59 pm, Nov 6, 2009

mothermayI

didicateddiva - thank you! This movie is NOT representative of the "Black" experience ....however, it is 1) fiction, 2) emotionally charged with real life situations....and 3) someone's story... Emotionally charges with real life situations: by this I mean that children are sexually abused (unfortunately) and sometimes it IS by a family member, whether by a father or father-figure, cousin, uncle, aunt...etc, it does happen & children are physically abused, and mentally & emotionally abused as well. So this story, while it may not be my story or my children's story or anyone that I know's....it is a compilation of some people's.

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11:26 am, Nov 13, 2009

steff47

This is not a movie this is black on black exploitation-- Just another way to make a buck off some made up tragedy common to the human experience

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2:02 pm, Nov 6, 2009

Franklin

This reviewer says:

"Excellent recent films with black themes-Next Day Air" were ignored by mainstream media.

Next Day Air? The film about 3 black guys who are unemployed, try to rob a bank and then get a shipment of drugs to sell? Besides for the film being awful....

This guy just is just angry

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2:15 pm, Nov 6, 2009

JackFromNyack

"Precious" is hip-hopified "Ugly Betty" for the film fest crowd.

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3:11 pm, Nov 6, 2009

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4:05 pm, Nov 6, 2009

jst4horses

I do not think everyone is stupid enough to think all Black families are like this one, or that there are not a plethora of white, yellow, red, and any other color of families, or any race or culture of families where this does not go on.

Prescious may be a story we all need to hear, from the standpoint of children in our country, in spite of all the money being thrown at the issues, are less protected than many other countries. The reason being that we feel they are protected.

I taught Youth Protection and heard teachers tell children not to wash their dirty laundry in public when they attempted to ask for help.

I was told by a Principal, who did not want to deal with a father who had his thirteen year old daughter sleeping in his really expensive bedroom (he said she was afraid of the dark) and continued to put lotion on her after showers because he said she did not do it properly and got rashes...........that I should mind my own business when I told her that it was her school and she needed to report it.

There is no excuse for people who are paid to protect children that are afraid to do so.

In private schools the story is even worse. Most want three documented with photos, and taped discussion with the child, before they will report. This is illegal.

They have to report the first time.

Until we make our children a priority, give jobs to enough people to make sure the teacher/child ratio is always a good one to protect the children, and make sure we have supportive parent education and just plain "got to get away from the kids" programs, we are going to continue to have the same problems.

My sons went to a very prestigious private high school. During a retreat many of the students talked about being molested by fathers, mothers, brothers, uncles, aunts, and friends of the family.

My sons came home and said, WHEW, we thought having a mom with a terminal illness was bad, we had NO idea.

These problems are not just in any type of family and we all need to start looking for resolution for all our children, not just getting in a huff over one movie and if it harms the reputation of one culture.

Maybe to avoid this aspect they needed to add in a therapeutic part where Prescious met many other youths with the same issues, rich, poor, and from all cultures...........

But I do not think Oprah meant to make a movie to put down Black people.

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4:08 pm, Nov 6, 2009

senorpastry

First of all, Beast, please go to Rotten Tomatoes and check out this man's track record of movie reviews. He gets readers and media attention by criticizing the universally praised (District 9, every Pixar movie ever) and praising absolute crap (Dance Flick, GI Joe).

Second of all, to criticize this film because it portrays an untrue or unfair view of Black life is ridiculous. I live in Baltimore and while I understand Blacks live in every social strata, there are those that see the same struggles that are depicted in Precious. This drama is not trying to make sweeping generalizations about Black culture. It is conveying the struggles of a few. It's telling a story. Nothing more.

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4:17 pm, Nov 6, 2009

SimonSaize

The difference between "District 9" and "Dance Flick" or "G.I.Joe" is the first took itself seriously and was also a collage work from previous movies and writings- "Enemy Mine"- excerpts from Kafka's "Metamorphosis" to manipulate consumers into compassion, the latter two movies are farces and mock up's taking them seriously and not enjoying their worthlessness is moronic.
I read reviews on "AntiChrist" today that prove the low intellect of people- first of all- the movie isn't a scary movie- its horror- horror is defined not as a genre but as such copied from Webster's:
* intense and profound fear
* something that inspires dislike; something horrible; "the painting that others found so beautiful was a horror to him"
* repugnance: intense aversion

The film "AntiChrist" was about the horror of nature and the psychology of female anxiety- it could have been a pro-life film if one actually understands the value behind Lars Von Triers female character- it was termed a misogynists dream- in fact it brings compassion for the depraved embodiment Charlotte Gainsbourg under-go's after losing a baby and feeling penetrated by an evil being controlling her mind and fucking her.

"Precious" fared well in a compiled statistic, I will see it regardless of my opinions.

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5:40 pm, Nov 6, 2009

SimonSaize

The film would no be marred if Oprah-Harpo were not involved. If the characters were white it wouldn't be anything but "Gummo"- see the real issue is Oprah's black "respect" campaigns or one should read appropriately "public admissions". When in fact whites do the same thing- "respect my white culture"- of course they are considered neo-nazi's. Makes one wonder if Oprah's constant public portrayal of being such a good woman isn't a show- a kind of exhibition of deeds and presented for approval-its also a way to build a loyal consumer base Her T.V. charity program also made her a billionaire...most social workers aren't sure if they'll get Social Security when retiring.
None the less Oprah is convinced she's some sort genius of culture- in fact "Gummo" -"Kids" and a few other films dealing with extreme circumstances- "Tras El Cristal" (1987) all have been overlooked and don't exploit but depict the hidden truths and grim realities.

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5:18 pm, Nov 6, 2009

Genni2002

"exploitation and opportunism" seem to be Oprah's middle names lately... I think she has lowered herself to the lowest common denominator. Her and her ilk, such as Ellen (who I wanted to slap when she used her show to go on a rampage toward the pet adoption lady after Ellen broke her adopted dog contract) and the entire self absorbed endless drabble conversation about Ellen on the cover of O drama. Please ladies, get a room already and close the door!

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8:26 am, Nov 7, 2009
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