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Real Unemployment Number: 17.5%
New figures in Friday's jobs report from the Labor Department indicate that the broadest measure of unemployment—including those unemployed who have looked for work in the last four weeks, discouraged workers, and the "underemployed" (part-time workers looking for full-time work)—has hit its highest recorded rate. More than one in six, or 17.5 percent of workers, are unemployed or underemployed, and in some hard-hit states like California, Arizona, and Michigan, the figure can get as high as 20 percent. The current figure is almost a half-percent higher than the previously recorded high of 17.1 percent in December 1982, even though the official jobless rate remains lower than its peak in the 1980s. Though this measurement isn't available for the Great Depression, it likely would have been higher than 30 percent. During this recession, there were fewer layoffs than expected—around the same number as occurred during the relatively light recession of 2001—but the hiring rate has plummeted, meaning that finding new work is extremely difficult. Most economists believe that the joblessness rate will fall next year, thanks to the work of White House and the Fed.
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""Most economists believe that the joblessness rate will fall next year, thanks to the work of White House and the Fed.""
But I thought Obama was going to ruin this country by not helping with employment?
And he hasn't stopped global warming or brought peace to the Middle East--and it's been a year! What a failure! McCain would have solved all these problems by now.
McCain would have realized that these aren't problems at all!
And we would already be invading Iran.
Its a bit foolish to congratulate Obama on his great success with ending the recession and lowering unemployment, when Obama's programs to bring down unemployment have failed and the economy is still hitting new highs in unemployment, poverty, and deficit spending every month.
I think the point they make is it wouldn't have been insinuated in his election process that he COULD solve all these problems in an unreasonable span of time.
Obama didn't "insinuate"....he LIED. Obama promised if the porkulus bill was passed it would create millions of jobs and unemployment would start falling by the middle of the year.
Obama is an incompetent. Instead of creating millions of jobs, he has presided over the LOSS of millions of jobs.
Good idea, Jaydee. Let's invade another country that isn't attacking us--that'll balance the budget. Oh wait, we don't have any more troops, do we?
I haven't made up my mind if he or his supporters actually did the insinuating. Either way, he didn't shoot them down and remain humble. He didn't exactly call for all for the adoration to stop.
Plant the only liar here is YOU.
PLANTAGENET's comment that starts "SObama didn't "insinuate"....he LIED. Obama promised..." uses Rules # 1 & 3 of THE 5 RULES OF PROPAGANDA --
1) The rule of orchestration: endlessly repeating the same messages in different variations and combinations.
3) The rule of disfiguration: discrediting the opposition by crude smears and parodies.
JDK - Exactly! All the pissing and moaning by the R's in January to kill stimulus spending and pass a tax cut instead was based on the fact that most of the bill's spending wouldn't kick in until 2010.
Precisely.
Wouldn't it have been smarter to have the spending "kick in" immediately, rather then waiting a year until after 4 million people lose their jobs on Obama's watch.
Why were the dems so stupid as to postpone spending until 2010?
Plant - Other than a tax cut, on what jobs stimulus project would you want your precious tax dollars spent?
spot:
Personally, I think the best thing we could do for economic development would be to build high speed train links between major cities. That would revitalize the industrial sector, involve high-tech engineering and systems control workers, and also employ many low skill workers.
Another thing that should be done is to expel the 20 million illegal aliens taking American jobs. That would open up millions of jobs for Americans.
Another thing that should be done is to allow more offshore oil drilling and offshore wind farm development. Its shameful that foreign energy producers have this country in a stranglehold.
Unfortunately, the dems only put a pittance into high speed trains, and the dems hate energy, and love illegal aliens, so they wasted the trillion dollar stimulus on paying bonuses to rich bankers, funding ACORN, and other crap that didn't create enough jobs to offset the millions of jobs being lost on Obama's watch.
A good post until your partisan meandering in the last paragraph.
You just can't resist, can you?
Hey plant... I like everything you said regarding economical development.
Now the ACORN issue...Come on Plant that one was beneath you.
spotted, you're not going to see any job creation, that porkulus bill was not designed to do that, that's why the R's didn't vote for it bumble heads...That's how they are going to get control of congress in 2010. How they knew that, it's easy they know Obama's agenda is to create chaos, joblessness, so they can have these poor shlubs depend on the Dems for Unemployment and healthcare and in return they will get their votes.
The more the merrier... right out of the Book Rules for Radicals, by Saul Alinski, go read it all the Democrats in congress and Obama live by it.
Here is a web site that predicted Obama's win and the Governor's race in last week.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administra tion/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Plant - That was a good start, but by the end it was sort of like a parent saying "I love you but . . ."
You know, if you keep on a positive tack, you may actually get somewhere with the high-speed rail concept.
Repubs idea of increasing employment. Ask Bachman...
REDUCE THE MINIMUM WAGE!
They are so smart!
I think Plantagenet, that you have a very good point. I would give my horse for this idea but surely, there must be some reason Obama isn't doing these things? Can it be that it simply isn't that simple?
It does sound good though and I really like the idea!
jay obama is ruining this country. Most economists I see on TV or read in the newspapers, and even Christina Rohmer his economy advisor, says jobs are going to still be falling into next year. This means a very very very slow recovery. There is nothing to be seen on the horizon!
Your 8 years late. BUSH ALREADY RUINED THIS COUNTRY.
YOU MISSED IT IF YOU WERE WATCHING FOX.
BUSH LOST 6 MILLION JOBS JUST LAST YEAR.
WHERE WERE YOU IDIOTS THEN.
jay obama is ruining this country. Most economists I see on TV or read in the newspapers, and even Christina Rohmer his economy advisor, says jobs are going to still be falling into next year. This means a very very very slow recovery. There is nothing to be seen on the horizon!
The jobless numbers are shocking, they are over 10%, and expected to rise and stay that way for decades. Helping Americans get back to work is a national necessity. It can be done by jump starting the war on drugs. 15 million drug enforcement agents can be hired. Their swat teams can bust drug dealers and close down meth labs all over the nation. Even glue sniffers would not escape their watchful eyes.
Expected to stay that way for decades? According to who?
The war on drugs is a losing battle.
That's why it can create jobs forever. Melpol is for more expensive make-work government programs.
AH... I get it...
Try 50 million drug enforcement agents, that would be what is needed. Maybe 50 billion. There is so much drug use running rampant no one could enforce it and there would be no place to put them in jail, all the jails are full and there is no room for drug offenders, we need the room for murderers and robbers and rapists and child molesters.
Even the child molesters are out because it is too much trouble to watch them in prison because everyone in there rapes them and beats them and tries to kill them. Personally I think that would get rid of a lot of child molesters, put them in prison and let them get killed.
And if you factor in Tuesday's elections, that unemployment figure is closer to 18%.
Vinny Some are claiming mid 25%
"believe" is not the same as something actually happening.
It belongs with the list of words that should NEVER appear in a "news" story.....might, could, maybe, etc.
Believe it or not, there was a time when news was reported after the fact, not guessing what could happen in the future.
But with a 24-hour news cycle, you have to fill the time with something.
that is true
That is the problem...News???
Stories being paraded as real news... that's the poroblem.
jaydeekay,the 24 hour newscycle, affects alot of people.Its like people are brain washed, i see it in friends and clients who are listening 24 hours a day, sometimes its depressing and it consumes them.Well its the way of the world.But alot of the people reporting are really just entertainers. We are a free society, so everything goes. Its better than controlled media.In other countries.but it affects people.
This is silly. Of course what experts think will happen in the future is news. If you're planning on going to the beach tommorrow don't you want to know what the experts think the weather is going to be? Not preparing for the future is unwise. Obviously nobody knows for sure what that will be but it doesn't hurt to narrow it down.
Yes I like to check for Jelly fish before I go to the beach, it can be so deceiving, once I didn't check and when we got to the beach everybody was gone, completely deserted and we went swimming and had a great time, we left and went home and later found out the Man-o-war jellyfish were out in huge numbers and they showed it on TV and they showed the beach we were swimming at. Even the dog was out swimming that day. We had a great barbeque and a wonderful lunch. Who knew?
This is total BS. Very few economists believe the stimulus is stimulating the economy. It's just tiding people over at best and all the pork in it means that we're not tiding nearly as many people over as we could have.
TA - I'll ask you the same question I asked Plant: Other than a tax cut, on what jobs stimulus project would you want your precious tax dollars spent?
spotted I'll answer your question. First killed the NFTA bill, put our trade on an even playing field, and give the stimulus money to small businesses. You do need a tax cut for small businesses so they will start hiring and get the job engine going. Push the banks to give out loans to businesses. Tax high on any company outsourcing out of our country. Take Gov't restrictions off businesses.
Then each State needs to give incentive, tax cuts to the small businesses, and this will open the doors so people can go into business and occupy our vacant factories. Form co-op plans where people can chip in, form companies, and has to hire so many employees.
Winston: You had 8 yeas to repeal it. Why didn't they do it.
Sorry mispelled NAFTA
spotted - I wasn't asked, but along with tax cuts, I would propose an immediate tax credit for jobs created in this country (something that is just now being discussed), and a shortening in the depreciation schedule for capital equipment, which would give businesses more flexibility and provide a boost to US manufacturers. Do you have any ideas, or do you just want to wait and see where this pork infested "stimulus" bill will take us?
I would like our tax dollars spent on getting the illegal aliens out of our country for good. They hate our guts and they show it and it makes me want to leave our country to go live somewhere where I don't have to put up with this nonsense. Like Bangkok or maybe France or how about Sicily? Even England can't be a bad as this is getting. It's really ridiculous. I just don't want to live here anymore.
Actually think(hardly ever)
You ALMOST got the facts right.
MOST economists believe the ONLY thing responsible for GDP growth has beeen the stimulus. So yes, the second half of your statement is fairly accurate. When the effect of the stimulus ends, what will take its place? THAT is what worries most economists.
progressive What made the GDP go up, only temporarily It was a one time deal "cash for Clunkers". This was foolish because it used taxpayers money so people can buy cars. I might add Japan says THANK YOU.
Nearly 16 million people are unemployed, more than seven million jobs have been lost since late 2007. This President is doing absolutely nothing to correct this. Obama has a one-track mind health-care, and the reason being is to take over 1/6 of our economy. {expanding Gov't}.
Health-care is not a top priority on any of the polls, it's the economy and jobs, but this indecisive ego-manic President and his minions continue on to pursue a plan that will bankrupt this country.
Well don't' say you were not forewarned libbies see who bails you out of jail when you can't pay your criminal fines.
Since late 2007. So who was in control in late 2007.
And it's Obama's fault.
Your an idiot.
OOOWWW Your an idiot. Don't take much to make you happy. This time next year you will exhibit buyers remorse in your choice of President. That's if your not in the poor house by then.
OOOWWW, I will tell you a story that was once told to me. Remember Indiana Jones? Remember the first show he ever made? He lands in a pit of snakes.
Obama landed in a pit of snakes, what he needs to do is get the hell out, and so do we. Standing around pointing fingers is stupidity at this point. How he got there, where the snakes came from is just being an idiot.
What we need to do is get the hell out of the pit of snakes anyway we can and as fast as we can!
While it is so easy for each party to demean and blame the other party, a large part of unemployment can be placed at the feet of the undereducated. As a society, the train has already left the industrialized station and is rapidly move to high tech and service. So many people are unprepared for this. Additionally, education is definitely not what it used to be and people become more illiterate as each day passes. Some things simply cannot be fixed by government alone. All you need to confirm this remark is to look at many of the postings on this site: People cannot spell, cannot put together a sentence, cannot articulate their thoughts.
I feel you.
hfb1053
This is a web site, and we freely answer anyway we feel like it. That is to say, we are emotionally caught up in the moment. Most of us do not care if we misspelled a stupid word or completed a stupid mistake in spelling or writing. This is not an English class, thank God!
That is no reflection on our education. Only to snobs like you perhaps?
hfb1053 It's a shame we all can't be like you. Stop being the grammar and spelling czar, grow up. No one gives a crap what you think.
W teamed up with Ted Kennedy to pass the No Child Let Behind act but the rest of the Dems hate it because by holding teachers accountable it weakens the Dems #1 constituency, the teachers unions.
we need strong accountability in schools
giving automatic tenure after three years, automatic raises without regard to classroom performance, and the 3/4 salaries plus health insurance for life after 25 years is simply unions looking after their own interests.
Most Dems (and anyone who has seen the results) hate "No Child Left Behind", because it is ineffective and has a disroportionally negative affect on urban and rural schools. It encourages teachers and schools to cheat and force out under-performing students.
It amazes me that the people who are complaining about Obama are the same people who supported the very policies that put us in this mess.
We had 8 years of Republican policies that ruined and bankrupted this country.
When I look at your statements I wonder where they were the last 8 years. It's like on Nov 4th 2008 all of a sudden Fox news told you America was on the brink of failing.
How the hell do you think we got here.
Take a look in the mirror.
They act like the Bush years never happened.
Actaully Winston we told you Bush the idiot egomaniac would bankrupt this country with the Iraq war.
Looks like we were right.
He bankrupted the country and has caused us to lose as you say 16 million jobs.
The guy you voted for bankrupted the country.
He couldn't have done it without the support form idiots like you, jaydeekay, laughorcryagain, VinnyB, Plantagenet.
NEWS FLASH>
You guys voted and supported Bush who has already destroyed this country in just 8 years.
You act like Obama inherited a surplus instead of a complete disaster from Republican policies.
This unemployment figure is all the Republicans.
You guys have the memory of Dick Cheney and Gonzo.
You just can't recall how we got in this hole.
Your IDIOT President did more damage in 10 months then Bush did in 8 years.
And McCain wouldn't have done the bailouts? I don't recall that they disagreed on that point during the election. Whoever came into office had to dump a ton of money to save the economy. Sure, Ron Paul wouldn't have done it, but he will never have the chance, because only a moderate can be elected in America. Fortunately, most people have more sense than you.
Remember: 50% of Americans are below average. Now look at yourself and your frustration and ask yourself, is your disappointment really the fault of all those illegal immigrants and welfare queens--or do you maybe have something to do with it?
nortonclybourn I worked all my life I never accepted anything from the Gov't, I'm sure it would have been very easy, but it never crossed my mind. My husband and I worked, put our children through college and paid for it and it wasn't easy,
I do not sit back and expect a handout. That's why I am shocked at what I am seeing on this website. People actually think the Gov't owes them something.
I could have fell into that 50% below average, but it was something I would not let myself do so I wouldn't be a welfare queen.
Winston NEVER accepted anything from the government!!!!!
Winston returned Bush's tax rebate check.
Winston has never called the cops, or the fire department.
Winston chemically tests the bacteria levels of all her food, which she grows herself.
Winston doesn't take the tax credit for being married or owning a home.
Winston home schooled her kids and then sent them to private college which she paid for in cash.
Winston doesn't drive on roads or in cars that have been tested for safety.
Winston has her own "Star Chamber" for creating and enforcing laws.
Winston doesn't support our troops.
Winston purifiers her own drinking water.
Winston processes her own sewage (in more ways than one).
Winston makes her own electricity and maintains her own wiring.
Winston shovels her her own snow and has a landfill behind her house.
Winston has never mailed a letter.
Winston has never taken penicillin, used a laser CD or the Internet.
(Or maybe Winston's a self deluded idiot.)
WAIT A MINUTE, who said we had anyone to choose from to vote for anyway?
Bring us some more billionaires to run for the country and we have a better choice to choose from?
As I said before, we are in a pit of snakes, we need to get the hell out of here and NOW!
OOWWW I'm glad to be in the same company with jaydeekay, laughorcry VinnyB and Plant or any other blogger on this site who leans to the right.
winston1 is a fool how can he fix his last little gray matter to think let alone write that dribble i realize there are a lot of small minded people out there who refuse to recognize what happened for the last eight years he is one
nikkya I see you are a mirror of your President. Do you believe you just sit back and collect unemployment for years. Companies that laid off people because of this recession are not hiring back, they see they can make do with the small amount of people left who are working their asses off just to keep their jobs.
Now foolish nikka do tell what do you have up your sleeve that can help this economy or up something else on your body.
I am concerned what's happening in the last 10 months which is horrendus.
progressive Let me put it this way I am not a freeloading Liberal like you waiting in line with bated breath for a few crumbs being tossed my way from my Gov't. He who waits in line for the crumbs is a deluded idiot
The economy is terrible. There is nothing happening to restructure the US growth. The production and manufacturing, and the lack of cash flow to small businesses, homes, families,people are very scared and concerned. nafta, the internet, the main thing that needed to be jumstarted was work,and help for the working persons.And billions and billions to The Karzais, rebuilding other countries,what is being done here?.People want to work,thrive,hope, earn spend,but if bailouts were given to banks,corporations companies, All American families in crisis should have been bailed out.We throw billions and billions out in other countries, who makes all these policies,?,and the money should have reached each american family.The banks,hoard, the cash, the companies are not rehiring,corporations are stream lining and getting use to it,and jobs will continue to go abroad.We needed retraining programs,whatever, I am going to learn to drill. I am in that stage where i can learn something new. I fell off the pole in the club ,!!!!that will not work for me.ja,ja. Although everyone was very nice,!!!!!but the escort,sex industry is booming young people,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..I think I am going to join the Sons of anarchy,get my motorcycle, and learn to Drill.Is that hard???Im to tired, socializing in smith and wellansky and Mortons and talking about all the left and rights, everyone is fighting.i am helping 4 different families, that a son was dropped from the mentally challenged program,In the US ,an unemployed teacher,closed businesses,where my friend had a heart attack from the bankrupcy,on and on and on,friends selling their home .elderly parents moving with their kids, because they were robbed in the market,its awfull,even if you are well off, the concern, worry, disorientation, depression is everywhere.
Look, you people are all idiots. Keep blaming the other side until GS controls the entire country. It's rent seeking firms like GS that got us into this mess. The government can't create prosperity by printing money, loaning money out below true market values, or giving tax cuts to the wealthy.
Ponder this:
"As entrepreneurs innovate, they reap economic rewards. Production then expands and new forms of economic organization emerge, such as the modern firm, which grows to capture economic opportunities. As the size of the firm increases, so too does its bureaucracy. The functions of ownership and control gradually separate. Eventually, the owners find that their connection to, and knowledge of, the economic process has been severed. They lose the ability to see the necessity of social institutions, such as private ownership and voluntary contract - institutions without which there would be no economic progress. Isolated from economic reality, their sympathy for the capitalist system begins to wane, and, with it, the social support for the institutions that form the foundation of capitalism. These render the capitalist system open to attack from hostile parties." - Joseph Schumpeter
At one time, during the early 90's, I found myself amongst the ranks of the unemployed. The picture wasn't pretty. Too many people chasing too few jobs. For those of us who were over 50, the process was demeaning. I had worked for a company that failed & prospective employers looked at me as though I had caused the failure. The standard phrase I heard at the few job interviews I had, was the term over-qualified, which is just employer speek for too old.
It took me over a year to find a job. In the meantime, my unemployment benefit ran out, my savings were depleted & I had to start drawing money from my IRA . I eventually found a job. It was not within my field & the annual salary was $25K less then I had been earning.
My advice for those looking for work, hang in there, grab every part-time job you can get. Don't make your resume too long (shows your age) & don't forget to network. Don't use credit cards & start walking instead of driving. If you need to lose weight, diet. That gray hair making you look older, try an inexpensive hair color that you can just wash in.
If your depressed, talk to someone, don't hold it in. Don't give up, don't blame yourself for being unemployed & most important, have faith in God & yourself. Things will get better & your life will go on (maybe not with the same income you were making) but you adjust & if you've got what it takes to make it in your new field, your salary will grow, mine did.
jojo12,very inspiring and so true. But the 90s already to now is 20 years ago. so much growth in the internet, outsourcing bigger everyday, importing more than ever,,and tese past years, the people have lost so much.Anyway, good luck to you,and very true.But people are scared, unemployed and willing to do anything.We will be working for chinese wages, maybe that will bring the companies back.I guess I got a little bitter, not so much for me, but I lost a dear friend with a heart attack, from a bakrupcy that the banks, should have helped in.Its irrelevant, the family is foreclosed on, and so much and other terrible stories. lets see how this country starts to get on its feet again.We are heading for huge and bigger unemployment, and nothing will stop it,for now.There will be some form of Christmas, and thank goodness many still have to spend, but it will not last long.
The illegal aliens have no jobs. When the country was flourishing there were jobs for everyone. The billions and billions that get thrown out in wars, it goes to their leaders politicians, the Karzais, How can we afford this money to be thrown out,spend it on each american family. And small businesses, better start to get help, and help the people, that produce, build, and hire,and spend here,and stop exporting all the manufacturing and jobs or this country is breaking. We are in a terrible place, and it is going to continue to get worst.
amapola, are you a business owner? ever hired anyone? have any idea how expensive it is?
Hiring people isn't expensive if your business is expanding. Payroll is a liability, but hardworking, loyal employees are "assets". You can't make money without employees.
You are so right FatFreddy-
My family had a construction business for fifty years, and they had employees who stayed with them, and they were their biggest asset, and the payroll always came first.
ofcourse, I agree.laughorcry.Are you saying we need to keep exporting.? it is expensive, here, but we have to provide the work here. For all of us,this is why I am so upset there has been no help for small businesses, I ahve posted 10 different stories.There has been no help for individual families,or businesses. The banks are sleeping with their money under the matress. or doing their big ,deals. So what if every american family would have received bailouts,like the big companies, we would be flourishing.Well I say this everyday
NOBODY - Dems or Reps can create demand, therefore no jobs. Since this is global, even if we manufactured something the rest of the world isn't buying it either. Building a new economy is a b*****! Reps saw it coming and did NOTHING. Now, it's too late to rebound quickly and the GOP wants to blame it on Obama -- IDIOTS!
I believe Bubba passed the NAFTA bill.
Sarah Palin tryed to warn us during her Republican Convention speech when she said, a man can inspire for a season. No truer words have ever been spoken about Pres. Obama. He can inspirer with words,and yet not be able to accomplish anything with those words.
Palin was in no position to warn anyone about anything.
Sarah Palin will be in position very soon.
No, we cannot blame the disaster on Pres Obama, and he is a caring President. But the mainstream has no relief.I can say that Europe does not want our dollars,travelers checks,american express.I know that the world is ,has and will be changing. And we are not the emerging middle class, we have created the strangulation of it. something has to be done,the wounded,hurt, and devastated grows daily.
If he cares so much why is he discriminating against us the Gay community? at this point i have come to think he is a homophobic bullshitter.
Demsdisorder Obama is a pacifer, he believes his words can carry him. I call him N.A.T.O which means No Action Talk Only.
there IS NO RELIEF FOR THE MAINSTREAM. PERIOD.
What gives american workers the right to earn more money for making the same damn car, or bra, or computer chip as a a Chinese?
The world will be a safer place if the billions of Chinese, Indians, LatAms acheive middle class status. Sure it will cost millions of jobs but americans are gonna have to step up like they always have and lead the world in innovation.
we can do it because we are the only truly free country where innovation is rewarded!
lets go america! we can do this!
Too bad our schools churn out sub-par knuckle draggers compared to these other countries where academic performance actually matters to kids. Everyone seems to drop out of school, or even if they graduate they go into the military or get a job instead of college. No one cares.
They go in the military because it pays for your college education without loans.
They go in the military to go to the war zone because it pays combat pay and that is a lot of money to buy houses with and new cars with.
Military people get away with entirely too much, they have special places to shop and get their supplies at a discount, they also can stand up and say, "I served this country!" And sound like they are big shit when all they did was work mail shifts or some other easy job.
Then they retire and get benefits their entire life. All they have to do is put in 20 years. Of course if they became diabetic during the 20 years, they get to automatically retire early and be supported by the military the rest of their lives.
With retirement money coming in they can work anyway to supplement it and get another retirement fund.
Going military is a very smart thing to do in this economy. And as the military updates your education you go up the ranks as officers do and this means more money too.
yes you Canadians have it good.
Hopefully the Obama Administration will be as passionate about job creation as they are about healthcare reform. If not,as much as I despise this thought,the GOP may return in some way. High speed rail should be on the front burner along with badly needed infrastructure repair. The average Americans who have taken a beaten due to poor government and reckless businesses need a break immediately if niot sooner.
High speed rail has been proposed over and over again, and I don't see that it has anymore traction than it did in the past. Americans are wedded to their cars, so maybe the infrastructure of highways and bridges would be a better investment.
The GOP, although the previous President increased spending on entitlement programs and didn't find his veto pen until late into his administration, isn't whollly to blame for the bad economy. The lack of oversight by the Congress over Fanny Mae & Freddie Mac and loans made to unqualified home buyers is the main reason for the recession. And those Americans who had the foresight to change their investment strategy in their 401Ks from equity to bonds, when the Dems took over Congress, fared a lot better.
Unfortunate.
our schools perform badly because the teachers unions are too powerful
in NJ you get tenure after three years
after that YOU CANT GET FIRED. PERIOD. it does not matter whether the kids pass or fail
you also get automatic pay raises, again without regard to whether kids perform well
Many teachers make up to $100,000 per year and after 25 years they all get 75% of that FOR LIFE
they also get medical insurance FOR LIFE
All of that and there is no requirement that the kids do well
this is the disease of union perversion. unions once were (and in some cases remain) a safeguard against abuse, now they are perpetrators of abuse.
Well walkman56, I have to tell you that most of the wealthy people I know are leaving the country to live somewhere else, I guess they will come back when things get better, but who knows.
Depends on how you look at it. As the issue loses steam, Republicans are looking around for ways to make the figure seem bigger and bigger. It's around 10%. It's also worth noting that Reagan had 10% unemployment figures from 1982 through 1983, just under a full year in the double digits total. BOKO
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