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Julia Roberts is getting $15 million to make Eat, Pray, Love, but Scarlett Johansson was only offered $250,000 for Iron Man 2. Kim Masters on the tactics Hollywood is using to slash salaries.
You’re Scarlett Johansson. You’re pretty and you’re pretty famous, too. And you’ve just been offered the part of the Black Widow in Iron Man 2! That’s got to be some payday, right?
How about $250,000, which is what Marvel Studios offered Johansson and Mickey Rourke to be in the film?
The stars negotiated the number up to something over $400,000. Still, it’s not hard to imagine that even a year ago Johansson could have expected to break seven figures for a role in a big franchise film. It’s a pretty thrifty deal for such a recognizable name.
If an actor balks at the deal, the studios say they will move to another choice immediately. “They’re not fucking around,” says the talent representative. “They know exactly who that next person is. Sometimes they’ll tell you.”
But salaries are being slashed now in Hollywood and even bigger stars are not immune. “Why would anybody pay Julia Roberts $20 million to do Duplicity?” says one producer. “That won’t happen again.” Indeed, this source says Sony Pictures is ponying up $15 million for Roberts to do Eat, Pray, Love and probably already regrets having committed to pay that much.
What the revolution in technology had started, the economy has hurried right along. After years of impotent promises to choke off rich deals with talent, the studios are finally making it happen. They’re hammering on star salaries and perks like private jets, too. “They’ve wanted to go in this direction for a long time and the global financial crisis has given them the lever to do it,” says one veteran talent representative. These changes may cheer up ordinary citizens who can’t understand why a star ever got millions to be in a movie in the first place. But the fact that the studios are finally laying down the law also illustrates the strains they are under as they try to crank out expensive popular entertainment when the model is collapsing. Stars in the middle range—famous names but something well short of, say, Will Smith--are facing the toughest battles. “The studios are going out to actors who have been $10 million players and saying, `Here’s $5 million.’ Here’s two and a half,” says a top agent. “It’s like there are no rules.” If an actor balks at the deal, the studios say they will move to another choice immediately. “They’re not fucking around,” says the talent representative. “They know exactly who that next person is. Sometimes they’ll tell you.”
That clearly seems to have been the case with Johansson and Rourke, says an agent who doesn’t represent either actor. “On certain movies, they feel like whoever they put in a part is fine. Once they lock down Robert Downey, Jr., on Iron Man 2, everything else is fine. I don’t think they give a shit if it’s Mickey Rourke or Scarlett Johansson.”
Tim Connors, COO of Marvel Studios, doesn’t put it exactly that way. "We don't like to be portrayed as being disrespectful to talent, notwithstanding the fact that we are very budget-conscious and can't always meet an actor's initial asking price,” he says. “We say, `We wouldn't normally ask an actor at this level to do this but we'd be thrilled to have them." (And if they say yes, they can not only buff up their images but also look forward to possible future roles in films featuring their characters.)
For really big stars, it isn’t about a reduced salary. For decades, the ultimate status symbol in Hollywood has not been a fast car or a Birkin bag but “dollar-one gross.” That means getting a share of the studio’s gross receipts regardless of whether the studio has earned back its costs. The studios struggled to hold the line on the amount of pure, uncut gross that big-name stars, directors, and producers could reap. (The notorious peak came in 2000, when Universal had more than 30 percent of the profit committed to Jim Carrey, Ron Howard, and others on How the Grinch Stole Christmas. The film grossed more than $340 million worldwide and still wasn’t considered a success.)
The studios seem determined to all but kill off these rich deals, especially on big-budget films (where the risk to the studio is highest). “If a budget is over $100 million, they don’t want to give dollar-one gross to anybody,” says a leading agent. Now, studios insist on recovering their costs before stars dig into the profits. If a star has clout, the studios might offer a bigger-than-usual slice of profit or big bonuses if the film turns out to be a hit. With those, a star could make even more money under the new system than he would have under his old, dollar-one gross deal. (Baiting the hook this way doesn't appeal to the thrifty folks at Marvel, however. Marvel wouldn't give up a lot of profit on a hit movie just to reduce its risk if a movie disappoints. Connors says it in COO-speak: "Giving away a huge amount of upside to protect a downside—that's a strategy that doesn't make sense for us.")
The concept of delaying the talent's payout until the studio recoups is not new. The Pirates of the Caribbean sequels were so expensive that they were made—simultaneously—on this basis and everyone came out ahead. And Clint Eastwood has long made his movies this way, which could be one reason why he controls his budgets with so much discipline. (The cheaper the movie, the sooner the studio gets its money back and the sooner his payday begins.) Insiders say Eastwood raked in the biggest payday of his career on Gran Torino because he got 30 percent of gross once the studio recouped its costs.
But now Hollywood is trying to make this new kind of arrangement the standard. It obviously carries risks to the talent if a movie winds up losing money, and as much as agents and other talent representatives want to insulate their clients from risk, they admit they don’t have much leverage at this point. “There’s no end to the bullshit the studios will play and if you call ‘em on it, there’s no conversation to be had,” the talent representative says. “They don’t deny that they’re doing it. They have the upper hand. The only question is, how long will it continue?”
Kim Masters is the host of The Business, public radio's weekly show about the business of show business. She is also the author of The Keys to the Kingdom: The Rise of Michael Eisner and the Fall of Everybody Else.









Julia Roberts is over and "Eat, Pray, Love" precisely the kind of middle brow tripe she sells so well, will be lucky to turn a profit in a market where folks will have little patience for a woman who spends a few months eating, praying and loving at a time when folks are praying that they will be able to eat. The new realities are great, no more inflated salaries for marginal talents and bonuses get paid once profits have been made. Sounds like a plan.
I have to agree with dunne. Roberts is a middle of the road actress at best and her portrayal of Brockovich doesn't seem to be much of a stretch compared to other actresses of her generation who've played transformational roles ie. Winslet-The Reader, Theron-Monster/North Country, Berry-Monster's Ball. Those were roles worth $20M if any and not just for some box office formula. Julia is overrated and overpaid, but hey if you can get it, well.....
I haven't even gone to a movie theatre in about 6 or 8 months. I'm not sure why exactly. It's not the price of a ticket really. I think it's a combination of my disgust at the idiotic politics of about 2/3rds of those that make movies who won't accept that they are simply actors and not world leaders too. Also, the movies themselves don't appeal to me. It's not the lack of technology of course. Must be that the stories just don't appeal to me. I'd rather read a good book.
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Hooray!! Now let's start looking at the pro ball players who spend part of their year dabbling in their favorite boy-hood pass-time and making obscene millions from it!
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And? They've been way overpaid for way to long. I don't hear the MSM screaming about the unfairness of Hollywood's over inflated salaries. Especially for the benefit they provide to society. What is that benefit anyways?
llipence, the benefit is helping us escape to another world and entertaining us even in the darkerst times.
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Wonderful! I hope they learn to keep their big mouth shut when it comes to politics. I hope they start losing homes and jobs. We'll see what they have to say about things once they are REAL working AMERICANS.
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I agree with Rafter. Most of the current talent, male and female, seem to be newly rich adult children living in a virtual world filled with cute plastic toys. Many of us are tired of leather/gothic films replete with special effects and sub-woofer powered sound systems. Now that the BluRay and Ipod MP4 formats have been hacked, the actual values of new releases are just what they are worth, the price of a blank BluRay DVD or hard drive space. This way, one may delete the fare after three minutes of watching or listening. I watched the special features disc provided with the "Dark Knight" video. Boy, was I unimpressed with the reverance paid to the God's of virtual reality. These people will walk around Hollywood Boulevard looking like zombies if their batteries or cell sites drop out. Why do most of the Netflix movies from the 1930,s -50's have worn jackets? Most of the newer releases seem almost never rented. Classic Criterion DVD jackets usually come almost worn out.
There's a hole in this argument.
Julia roberts is in 90 pages in eat pray love.
Scarlet is in 8-9 in the recent draft of IM2 I read.
Julia Roberts is also a bigger star as well as the rehearsal process that will eat up her availability.
Scarlett has yet to lead a major studio release and is only needed 10 days at the most.
Mickey's price is because of the ratio pushed for the INSURANCE BOND PRICE that went up 2 percent as soon as he was approved for the Budget.
Plus MARVEL STUDIOS can pull shit like that.
Contemporary Hollywood is composed of talentless, wooden, shallow, over-rated lemmings. Julia Roberts is one of many. People talk of the excesses of "Big Oil' and 'Big Finance', but take a look at the salaries some of these hacks are receiving and it's obscene. And they've been fleecing us for years. They need to sacrifice and give back to the folks who brought them -hey, isn't that what the President is advocating ? Theatres are closing not because of the challenged economy but because of the abysmal product Hollywood produces. The movie business is producing predictable garbage - all cut from the same production and philosophical template. Hopefully it will melt down and from it, finer entertainments will be produced. But I doubt it, it's in the hands of accountants and people who are, at large, not very creative.
First, let's get a myth out of the way Sundunne. Gobs of people are NOT praying about their next meal. Geez, how soft have we become? Unemployment is at 8.5%. That is nothing compared with the 25% of the depression or the 11% of the late 70's, early 80's, yet people are talking like its the end of the world. Sack up!! You are listening to too many politicians. (and I don't see them stopping any parties for themselves) The recession was not ever as bad as promoted, and the economy is now beginning to recover. So, what?, the hard times lasted maybe 6 months before recovery began? Oh, you poor things. I don't mind an actor making lots of money. I don't mind a banker making lots of money. I don't even care about some people getting a bonus that taxpayers are partly funding. What I do mind are a bunch of down and outers complaining about it when THEY don't even pay the taxes for it. Yeah, check out the real facts. The top 25% of income earners pay 85% of the total income tax. The bottom 50% pay only 3% of the total. So, I am sorry, the poor people are not bailing out the rich people. The poor people aren't doing a thing and are not paying a thing. Well to do people are bailing out well to do people. Poor people, or even most middle class people, aren't paying the freight, so they shouldn't have any real say either. If you want to put in your opinion, then pay 35% of your income into the game and then you can have an opinion.
The movies today, with a few exceptions, are either leftist propaganda or simple trash. There are many people out here in the hinterland that do not go to the movies anymore. If all of today's Hollywood disappeared tomorrow, we would not even know. By the way, one good GI in Iraq or Afghanistan is worth more than the entire Hollywood scene.
It appears the EXCESS that has been America is finally having to see reality and has started the swing back to a balance. The country that has just printed any new . Our new reality is no longer being able to be ignored but the truth is too strong to ignor anymore. A new payment model for all the folks in every sector of our economy is being forced upon us , like it or not. Actors today, Bankers, CEOS and Athletics shortly.
I agree with Rafter. I used to go to the movies once, twice a week. I'd see a favorite 5 times. Not anymore. We go once every couple of months now. Yes, I'm sure most people in the film industry have always been the Bel Air liberals that John Wayne sneered at, but these days I'm much more aware of their politics and the essentially loathsome individuals they are and I just won't help pay for their lifestyle/position any longer.
I feel so bad for hollywood, Most of these people have no clue what most of us go through everyday. They will still will be making to much no matter how much they get cut. Military and first responders should be making the big salaries.
timcruz, what you say about Johanssen may well be true, but I'm a little perplexed about the Rourke assertion, given that the LEAD in the Iron Man franchise is Robert fucking Downey, Jr.
Why is anyone getting paid these enormous salaries to make movies?
They are all overpaid and what do they really do to contribute to humanity?
Oh yeah, they act.
Julia, if you should give your salary to the unemployed living over in L.A.
And Scarlett, Mickey, shut the f*ck up and be glad you get paid a quarter of a million dollars for a tiny, tiny bit of work. If acting can be called that. Jeesh! I would love to make that kind of money.
What a bunch of whiners!
texastiger64, they get paid those salaries because they make movie studios billions of dollars and in turn our economy makes billions because of their product. What do they contribute to humanity, they entertain us and help us escape to another world during even tough times. It's been like that for over 100 years, no matter how bad you feel you could always get away to another land with a good movie or book. Tiny bit of work ? Good acting is not a tiny bit of work, go read up on some of the things people like Daniel Day Lewis do to prepare for a role. Clearly you are just bitter and jealous of them.
In the comic book movie mill I would consider a mid to past actor taking a signature roll as a career investment. Mickey as Crimson Dynamo is a great roll for Mickey: a bad boy taking an immortal bad boy image that gives him character actor cred to last the rest of his career.
And maybe Scarlett Johnson has a fan base out there amongst a younger generation. I've never seen her act but she gets lots of Starlet shots on runways. BUT... Black Widow has HUGE potential as a character. She had her own title in the day. If she could do as well in the roll as Uma Thurman did as Poison Ivy (the only bright spot by an actress I had always hated in the terrible batman III (or was it IV)) she could turn it into a paying career. Black Widow could deliver way more as a character (if everyone's lucky) then Elecktra did (or could) for Michelle Garner. Black Widow had strong cross title presence that tied many story lines together and is part of a stable of characters like Nick Fury that push a whole franchise forward.
When I start thinking of franchise building I get drawn to the James Bond continuing characters. Nick Fury fills the M and Q rolls and Samuel L. Jackson has the glory of playing Nick Fury until the day he dies :-) . Films should look towards building that same kind of stable and any actress who can pull it off should look at taking a roll like Black Widow.
Oh....poor sad multi-millionaires....what a pity!! They may have to stoop to shopping at Nordies instead of Louis Vuitton and Baby Gap instead of Baby CZ.All the while we "peasants" shop at Target, clip coupons and hope to God we make it though another month of tax hikes.....
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And the problem with all of this is what?
Maybe Clooney and his buddies can convince Obama to raise their salaries..maybe instead of giveing money to the people in Dafur we should give to the poor stars who need manicures and pedicures and be all self-absorbed..
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