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First, the Department of Homeland Security came under fire for a memo that warned of “right-wing extremists” that that pose a danger to the United States. Now, The Daily Beast publishes a new DHS memo that throws dozens more groups—Mexican separatists, black nationalists, Nordic mystics—under the bus.
The Department of Homeland Security set off a firestorm earlier this month when a memo surfaced that warned of right-wing extremists. The memo, which was issued to law-enforcement officials, suggested that extremists driven to dire straits by the Obama administration could recruit returning veterans to help produce Timothy McVeigh-like terrorism. Now, The Daily Beast has obtained another DHS memo, and this one identifies an even more far-ranging group of “extremists.”
Partisans leapt to decry the first DHS memo as part of a Democratic conspiracy to marginalize right wingers. But it became clear that DHS's broad descriptions of extremists (“mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority”; “may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration”) were symptomatic of an ongoing agency problem that crossed ideological lines. Indeed, earlier memos surfaced that targeted left-wing extremists with the same uncomfortably vague descriptions. For example, one memo warned that anarchist extremists “embrace a number of radical philosophical components of anticapitalist, antiglobalization, communist, socialist, and other movements.”
The Daily Beast obtained an internal memo from the DHS offering definitions for dozens of groups, movements, and terms. If nothing else, the document certainly crosses ideological lines: entries range from Mexican separatists to antiabortion extremists to racial Nordic mysticism.
The new memo obtained by The Daily Beast locates an even wider-ranging group of extremists among us. You could safely say it crosses liberal and conservative lines: Entries range from Mexican separatists to antiabortion extremists to racial Nordic mysticism. (Islamic groups are specifically excluded from this document.)
“Domestic Extremism Lexicon” is dated March 26—shortly before the flap over the right-wing extremism memo broke out. According to a spokesperson for DHS, the memo was recalled “within minutes” of being issued, though the spokesperson declined to offer any details on the reasons for its withdrawal.
Some sample entries:
(U) anti-immigration extremism (U//FOUO)
A movement of groups or individuals who are vehemently opposed to illegal immigration, particularly along the U.S. Southwest border with Mexico, and who have been known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence and terrorism to advance their extremist goals. They are highly critical of the U.S. government’s response to illegal immigration and oppose government programs that are designed to extend “rights” to illegal aliens, such as issuing driver’s licenses or national identification cards and providing in-state tuition, medical benefits, or public education.
(U) Mexican separatism (U//FOUO)
A movement of groups or individuals of Mexican descent who advocate the secession of southwestern U.S. states (all or part of Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas) to join with Mexico through armed struggle. Members do not recognize the legitimacy of these U.S. states, including the U.S. government’s original acquisition of these territories.
(U) black nationalism (U//FOUO)
A term used by black separatists to promote the unification and separate identity of persons of black or African-American descent and who advocate the establishment of a separate nation within the United States.
(U) black power (U//FOUO)
A term used by black separatists to describe their pride in and the perceived superiority of the black race.
(U) racial Nordic mysticism (U//FOUO)
An ideology adopted by many white supremacist prison gangs who embrace a Norse mythological religion, such as Odinism or Asatru.
(U) skinheads (U//FOUO)
A subculture composed primarily of working-class, white youth who embrace shaved heads for males, substance abuse, and violence. Skinheads can be categorized as racist, antiracist, or “traditional,” which emphasizes group unity based on fashion, music, and lifestyle rather than political ideology. Dress often includes a shaved head or very short hair, jeans, thin suspenders, combat boots or Doc Martens, and a bomber jacket. (also: skins)










Sarlin, it is the JOPB of Homeland Security to identify groups to watch. That is not "throwing them under the bus". If Homeland Security didn't identify them, you'd be the first to accuse the dept. if one of these groups started blowing up buildings or people. Get it straight and grow up: domestic terrorism is as big an issue as foreign terrorism.
Fact. Thanks for applying common sense.
Sippewissett,
Homeland Security needs to protect Americans not list them as terrorist groups. We have a government of, by and for the people. The DHS should be concerned with upholding the U.S. Constitution and not writing the order of battle for the second civil war.
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Mexican sepratists are a "threat" -LOL?
What about the MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS ALREADY HERE? LETS SEE DHS TAKE OF THAT PROBLEM
FREE JAY SEVERIN!! WTKK-FM
Jay Severin should be fired. He's a disgrace.
Jay Severin
Is tiny-brained
Reptilian scum.
Well, couple the DHS's list of potential threats with the left's intense hatred of almost all people on the right, and I'd say we have to be very careful of what the left will do with this information.
(I'm sure this hate will be justified by "the last 8 years" and "They did it, too!" -- as though this behavior is perfectly acceptable.)
Clearly you didn't read the memo drafted for the "left". The govt is concerned "left" extremists will hack into computer systems, not that they will use their personal arsonal to murder innocent people. That little nugget is reserved for the "right". And I don't think there is "an intense hatred of almost all the people on the right". If there is any hatred, (I would argue disgust, not hatred), its because of the culture war the "right" invented to manipulate the public into voting for conservative politicians. Who then showed themselves to be the biggest hypocrits of all.
As predicted, you justify your "disgust". It's all the right's fault. Of course.
Andrea, you say that as if the conservatives are not more hateful today than they've ever been in the past. I see and hear more pure hatred spewed by the right today, by MAGNITUDES, than I do from the left. That doesn't make either side correct in their actions, I'll grant you, but you might want to take a CLOSE look in the mirror before pointing fingers. And while you're at it, think back to the Nixon years before you complain about government monitoring groups ridiculously considered "dangerous". This is NOT a Red/Blue issue.
Even more, she says it as if saying it often enough will make it true.
JLSims says: I see and hear more pure hatred spewed by the right today, by MAGNITUDES, than I do from the left.
REALLY? Hmmmmm, I just have a few words in response to that: moveon.org, dailykos.com, dailykos.net, huffingtonpost.com, and George Soros.
If you want to see MAGNITUDES of pure hatred, MULTILIED BY 1 MILLION, SPEWED BY THE LEFT, just visit the websites mentioned above.
Oh, and let's not forget the HATRED SPEWED BY THE LEFT TOWARD Miss California for ANSWERING A QUESTION HONESTLY AND FOR HAVING AN OPINION.
The memo also covers the left. You have done a very selective read or none at all.
More likely, it will be justified by the fact that it exists only in the tortured fantasies of the minority of right-wing wackos whom we DO disdain -- the ones who have hijacked the Republican party and dragged it so far to the right that even Barry Goldwater would now be considered to be a "liberal".
Cynicism and fanaticism is representative of a conservative worldview is an extension of Hobbes (the ne plus ultra philosopher of neo-conservatives). Helped along by chickenhawks like g.beck, m.savage, r.limpdick et al..
I will paraphrase this view as follows:
We live in a world where people (out-of-power republicons--feel your blood pressure rising Andreain & kinky-neo-con? You have provided an immediate example of this approach/behavior, thanks) stand on the continuum between the laws of the jungle and the laws of of reason believing they have right (ideals) on their side impose their sense of justice on others.
A very recent example of idealism in action is that of Stalinist ideals--not so nifty methinks...
I prefer Kant's take; it's roughly a framework vs policies based on ideals:
Peaceful negotiation, international courts and a common concern for all people.
Lastly, if i remember my Scripture:
Sodom & Gomorrah was a place of abundance; the Sodomites laws included, death to any citizen helping strangers-(what is now called xenophobia), regressive taxes--owners of two oxen were liable for one day's civic service, while those with one oxen were assessed for two days.
These crimes were all the worse (according to Scripture) for being thankless to God for the city was showered with wealth.
Interesting metaphor for all Christians in the U.S. to consider.
Time to clean the bong!
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Never heard
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@rit
Maybe you should get out more...
It was first used in Shakespearean plays and has been in common English usage for a few centuries.
Hugs & Kisses
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Autodidact says: Peaceful negotiation, international courts and a common concern for all people. And Stalinist ideals.....
Well, you can TRY 'peaceful negotiations' with dictators, thugs and terrorists - but we haven't even begun peaceful negotiations with Iran yet, and Ackma-a-hole is mocking the U.S. today in the press by saying that Iran and Syria are on the road to 'victory' over the U.S. By extending a hand of peace to a terrorist, you lose a hand - then an arm, then a leg, etc., etc., etc.
'International courts' - are you OUT OF YOUR MIND?!?!?!? This is the United States of America. We are a sovereign nation, we live by and are protected by the Constitution!!! Why on earth would you want a U.S. citizen to be judged by some Iranian/Shahria law for example?!?!?? There is a reason there are 50 million illegal immigrants in this country. If you wish to be judged by the laws of some other country, then why don't you go live in another country?!? My treat. I'd bet a million dollars that you would NEVER do that, because after all of your U.S.-bashing, you know that in most other countries you wouldn't even be able to make comments like yours on this page.
'Common concern for all people' - When does the U.S. NOT have a 'common concern for all people?' WHEN????? First off we have the Constitution which was written because of 'CONCERN FOR ALL PEOPLE.' We have civil rights, we have human rights, we have legal rights. Then, as much as this country wants and NEEDS immigration laws enforced, this country pays BILLIONS and BILLIONS and BILLIONS each year caring for illigal immigrants!!!! That's not 'concern for all people???' Why don't you STOP U.S.-bashing and say something NICE about her once in a while?!? It's like you live your life with BLINDERS on!!
And finally, 'Stalinist ideals' - I'm confused, I thought you were an Obamamaniac, but the 'Stalinist ideals' ARE OBAMA'S IDEALS!!! How else do you explain the government/Obama STRONG-ARMING preferred shareholders to take pennies-on-the-dollar for their investment in Chrysler, WITH THREATS OF 'THE FULL-FORCE OF THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS' TO DESTROY THEIR COMPANY IF THEY DID NOT GO ALONG? PRETTY DAMN STALINIST TO ME!!! And how do you explain how the government/Obama makes the UNIONS a 55% shareholder of a company, BEFORE BANCRUPTCY HEARINGS ARE HELD? STALINIST IDEALS ANYONE?!??
I find the 2008 FBI report from 2008 even more disturbing which occurred under Bush's watch which people tend to ignore for reasons of not wanting an honest debate about anything.
"White Supremacist Recruitment of Military Personnel Since 9/11."
http://cryptome.org/spy-whites.pdf
Here is an excerpt that should be pointed out.
"Several white supremacist extremist groups, including the Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations, adhere to Christian Identity teachings, which anticipate the end of the world and the Second Coming of Christ based upon idiosyncratic interpretations of the Bible. One interpretation anticipates God will use the chosen race (white Christians) as a divine weapon against the forces of evil (nonwhites and Jews) in a purifying race war preliminary to Christ's establishing God's kingdom on earth."
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Isn't it odd how Bush and the FBI would target Christians and the right was silent?
I can't believe they didn't mention the Bush era republican terrorists!
These are the people who believe it's okay to invade sovereign nations on false pretences,killing and injuring millions of innocent people in the process. Oh, and they also like torturing suspects under the guise of promoting national security.
This group poses a greater threat to our country than all the other groups combined!
Good thing none of that happened.
Free? Have you been hiding in Osama's cave for the past decade? Are those coffins our sons and daughters are coming back in from Iraq empty?? Did we FIND WMD's in Iraq that Bush forgot to reveal to us?? Did the CIA memos on torture lie on themselves and just SAY they used torture??
Baptox,
Get your facts straight - there were NOT MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED AND INJURED!
And you should be ashamed to call Bush a terrorist! He kept this country safe, no, HE KEPT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY SAFE SINCE 9-11!!!
And as far as REAL TERRORISTS and torture, waterboarding is NOT torture, sleep deprevation is NOT torture, being placed in a room with a caterpillar (my personal favorite!) is NOT torture. Torture IS having your fingernails pulled-out with pliars, torture IS having your hands and feet drilled with an electric drill, torture IS being systematically shocked with high-voltage electricity, torture IS being branded with hot branding irons, torture IS having your fingers and toes chopped off one at a time, torture IS having your eye or eyes gouged out. Can you see the DIFFERENCE?!?
And quite frankly, if a terrorist has info that will save the life of my family and of the citizens of this country, then stick him/her in a room with that damn caterpillar and make them talk! But no chance of that now. If a terrorist has info that will prevent the loss of human lives today, so be it, as far as the obama administration is concerned!!
I am terrified of you, obama and his administration.
I'm sorry,orourke, you can't understand hyperbolic sarcasm.
Here's a nice fact for you:
ORB polls indicate that there have been 1,000,33,000 deaths in Iraq due to the war. That doesn't include recent casualties.
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Funny how so many people seem to forget that terrorst Tim McVeigh was a veteran who aligned himself wth right wing hate groups as a result of his military service. After the Oklahoma City bombing (which was first blamed on Muslim extremists) a lot of evidence came to light that right wing extremists were recruiting from the ranks of our military.
While I am concerned about not violating people's civil rights, I do think that DHS is right that such groups can generate terrorism. It would be naive to ignore them completely.
OK, Viewsonic, now show the class where the memo says that domestic terrorism is the only danger about which we should be concerned.
Now show us proof that, prior to 9/11, the most deadly act of terrorism on US soil was not the result of action by just the sort of people against whom they are warning.
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Besides
Bin Ladin's
Dead already
Renal failure
2002
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@viewsonic
"rush we have a caller who"
Are you a magpie view-(enchanted by shiny objects [guns] and able to mimic words but unable to comprehend the meaning of what you are mimicking)?
You and that one-tooth bushy-mustache guy @free should stay away from the livestock pens, and spraypaint/glue...
Right and Left!? Conservative vs. Liberal? The DHS memos cover anybody who disagrees with the official government policies or laws thus everyone is a terrorist. Those in power don't give a hoot for your political persuasion, but only to the extent to divide and conquer.
Are there not 5 stages of human development: infant, child, adolescent, parent, and adult?! May I add a 6th, Spirit!? Which of us has made it to the adult stage? Forget making it to the Spirit stage on this earth, but the idea sounds fun! The government doesn't want you to go there!
I am neither a liberal or a conservative. Do I believe in Liberty? I capitalized it didn't I?! Do I believe in a Constitution that insures our personal rights and freedoms? You bet! Do I believe in the Bill of Rights? You bet! Do I believe the Federal Reserve and the Income Tax amendments are wrong? You bet!
Am I a potential terrorist?! The DHS/NSA agent reading this post thinks so. Here's the way I see it. I don't care if I live under a monarchy, republic, democracy, theocracy, dictatorship or any other form of government so long as those leaders aren't tyrants and they leave my family, friends, money, property, guns and liberties alone! What say you?
Stop whizzing over right vs. left and stand up for liberty. I know there are a number of you folks out there in the government and private sectors that hate a free and self-governing people and thats your right, but do not impose that demented attitude on us period or pay the consequences.
"Remember, the peasants always win, well sometimes the peasants win... Hmmm, I can't remember the last time the peasants won, but they're due!" Clayton Jones
What exactly is wrong with this memo?
It it a little to ACCURATE for some people's liking?
To gregoryabutler,
What is WRONG with this memo?! You're kidding right?!
ACCURATE???? Are you nuts? Seriously, are you? This memo covers every man, woman, and child living in this country, EXCEPT RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS, THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS MEMO!!!!!!
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
@ View & Free~
Now stop moving your lips while reading this; I have purposely avoided sublime replies and will try to distill my thoughts into concepts you can comperhend.
I want to redact the comparison between you and a Magpie-(a bird that can mimic sounds...).
This goes back a few years but; Edgar Bergen had a radio show with ventriloquist dummys:
Charlie McCarthy, the main character, who was always presented as a highly precocious child--does this resonate with you @view?
And, @free the slow-witted Mortimer Snerd character...
The ventriloquist (sic Edgar Bergen) in this contemporary regard is an amalgamation of: g.beck, r. limpdick, b.orally-aka bill oriely, et al...
Hug & Kisses
Oh my God, under these stipulations Jr. Samples from hee-haa will be a domestic terrorist, because he wore combat type boots and thin suspenders. He just want to sell used cars, you can contact him at br549 lol HAHHAHA.
The mentality of the elitist is for beyond comprehension as they are in an attempt to shot the hand that feeds them, because of there so called superior intellect they become social retards and have no clue why the people they attempt to govern is unhappy and are the backbone of the country. One sided white wash crap, high minded mentally unstable decision makers. And dumb enough to print there insecurities.
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