It's California. What do you expect?

"FoolsLogos:
'It's California. What do you expect?'"

FoolsLoogie, that sort of blanket generalization is an insult to everyone in California, including those who might agree with you in every way (except that one, perhaps). Unless, of course, you really believe that everyone in California is alike. In which case it may be time to a) create your own country or 2) check yourself into the mental ward.

Going into the lions den? What, are you retarded? While I agree with you on many social issues I must say-she did POORLY on Real Time. She got slammed for her condescending attitude, "I wasn't born then", statement and rightfully so! She should have just came out and told Paul he was "old" and a "square". Give me a break! If you go onto a T.V. show you'd better be prepared! She was petulant and showed her background by being whiny as well! She's a child and should stay off t.v. except, perhaps, the occasional reality show. I'm not impressed with her writing nor her on camera persona. She only gets this gig because of her last name-if she were your or my daughter would we be having this discussion? Not hardly! Let her defend the GOP! It's an indefensible position! And I'm an independent voter!

And Jenni0278 keep wishing for Palin to become president! Obama will do great things! You probably supported Bush both terms, didn't you?

anvil42,
I was trying to be nice in regards to her appearance on Bill Maher. I don't think it does anyone any good to criticize others when she was clearly out of her element on his show. And no, I am not "retarded", as you so eloquently asked...I did support Bush BOTH terms, but I am not rooting for Palin to be our next president. I choose the candidate that best fits my beliefs at the time of the elections. I actually liked John Edwards, but he wasn't a choice in the end. I don't think Obama has the experience or the courage it takes to fix our nation after a DEMOCRATIC congress, not Bush, screwed it up. We'll have to wait and see what he does for the 4 years we have him, and hope for the best. He gives great speeches, but so did Hitler...

With all the right and far left I've been seeing lately, I find this refreshing and if the GOP is to truly evolve they must have people willing to follow their own beliefs not just tow the party line blindly. It makes me hopeful. Thank you.

I love this comment, I agree with everything you said, except I am totally against abortion.

I think you are way too hard on Meghan. I am a Democrat, but I felt for her. She is just not in her element yet. And she may not make it in the public arena. I am an "old timer" and I would be tongue-tied on a TV show. She does appear immature and she is young. She admitted she was very nervous. But, in spite of all that, she means well and, in her fashion, is trying to loosen up the tired old GOP. I say "go girl". I am a hard core Democrat, but if there were more "minds of Mehgan", what a better country we would have. The tired old GOP needs to disappear.

I am not even sure why she was there and for what purpose. She did humiliate herself pretty bad. Whatever she was nervous or ignorant, she does remind me of many others at her age in this country. She did talk as she was texting on her phone while listening to music and later bragging about multitasking.

SteveJones, you are SO right on every point. She's a journalism major--she should know how to use the language. Granted her age is probably a hindrance, but if she is going to put herself out there, she should get some presence. Certainly she can afford some decent media training. To see her up there opposite Katty Kay (sp?) was such a point/counterpoint moment. And all of those other commentators, including Paul Begala, were treating her with kid gloves no doubt because of her youth and ignorance. She needs to either grow up, if she intends to remain in the spotlight, or shut up and get some real world experience (as in a job, perhaps) and some savvy. She did indeed come across like a petulant adolescent. I think it may be because she is usually on shows as the only guest, not as one of a panel, who is meant to debate or at least discuss things in an educated and literate manner. If this is how she presents herself in such situations, she'd better stick to being the lone "liberal" on Fox shows.

Well said! Her problem on the show last night is she tried to spew talking points and could not defend them. When you belong to a party that blames Clinton for EVERYTHING that was wrong in the first 8 years of the Bush admin. you look a bit silly when you want Obama to accept blame for all Bushs failures. They want to have it both ways and Begala was just pointing out the obvious which she apparently could not react to in any manner befitting a mouthpiece. I have come to like this young woman but she is still drinking a bit of the kool-aid and trying to defend the indefensible. She is loyal to a party she disagrees with fundamentally so therefore she will never be good at defending it. She is good at defending moderation but not republicanism.

Hey, that's not fair. If she educated herself, learned about history, and learned about the real world and real people...she'd become a Democrat, and where would that leave her new career? As it is, she's doing quite well at playing the bizarre oddity of a Republican that's capable of an occasional - though extremely rare - independent thought.

Oh you have got to be kidding. She was just fine. She was so relaxed. She was being herself. Only snobs like you would be focussing on her grammer and speech punctuality. Would you have felt better if threw in a few "YOU BETCHA's" and "MAVERICK"?
GET A LIFE!! LIGHTEN UP!

Oh, please. Couldn't you have just suggested she slow it down a little and try to get over the use of "like" and left it at that? It doesn't deserve a thesis.

I was also disappointed with Meghan's showing with Bill Maher. I will say, however, that Maher was in rare form during his discussion with her. He is well informed and his panel members and guests are usually able to meet him toe-to-toe or even give him a run for his money. In this case, Maher realized up front that treating McCain as any usual guest would only be a hollow attempt and instead place him in a very juvenile position. My suggestion is that McCain review the way he worked with her during the discussion and especially the way Katty Kay demonstrates her knowledge and diplomacy when faced with ideological inquiries.

Most importantly, McCain's appearance demonstrates the critical importance of understanding the nature of discourse. Ideological inquiries are just that, not necessarily fighting words. Approaching discourse from a defensive position removes any opportunity to practice discourse and, even more, removes any opportunity to build bridges (something McCain suggested as her reason for speaking out).

I admire McCain's motives and look forward to seeing her progress. I am a progressive and tend to vote primarily democrat. With that said, I think McCain is getting her feet wet and I hope she will look for more opportunities for discourse and leave defense for more appropriate venues.

I totally agree.

@innovations:

It's "grammar"; and WTF is "speech punctuality"?

Yes she did seem out of hear depth. Although I give her credit for going on there and her willingness to appear on MNBC. To actually go into these Lion's Dens and state her case. sometimes she doesn't come off so well as with Maher. Sometimes she passes with flying colors as with Maddow or the View.

Based on her columns that have been posted on this site, I know she doesn't have an empty head. She's not an intellectual giant, and I don't really expect her to be. But her youthful perspective is something I exhilarating, and makes some of the tenets of conservatism much more appealing to me, a fairly liberal person.

But she just cannot be on TV. At the very least, not yet. She can't go toe-to-toe with the chattering class, and she was clearly out of her depth on Mahr. I felt like he held her to the same standards as he would anyone else on the show. It has nothing to do with being in the "lion's den." She just isn't a very good voice for conservatism.

Again, at least not now, and at least not on television.

She was clearly very nervous all those types of shows are about the host and how he can pick on people for their views especially if they do not agree with the host.

none of what you said makes a remote amount of sense

"Just as many Democrats oppose gay marriage as Republicans."

Your statement is absolutely not true. Here are the Proposition 8 votes:

Republican: 82% YES, 18% NO
Democratic: 36% YES, 64% NO

That's a huge difference!

Ah, maybe because neither a horse nor a minor cannot consent to marriage. Just a thought.

Keep driving off that cliff.

Turn off your turn signal, ahready!

You can be an adult still consent to homosexually marry you father or brother without consequences. Not the same for an heterosexual marriage due to consanguinity issues.
Biology is biology and I am not sure the gay lobby can change it.

You anti-gay-marriagers might have a stronger argument if you didn't tie it to your belief that gays are abominations. You are using the gay marriage issue to push gays further to the fringe instead of accepting them into society. Thus the fight is really about that rather than about the logic of marriage itself...and stop comparing it to bestiality, that's just too stupid to even consider. Almost as dumb as comparing it to pedophilia.

lol! Oh Rita I hope you're on the DB payroll. If not you should be.

Turn off your turn signal, ahready!

What if a mother and daughter want to get married? There is no chance of a genetically damaged offspring then? Is that alright?

I have a friend who has cystic fibrosis - if her husband had been a CF carrier, there would have been a 25% chance that they could produce a 'genetically damaged' child with CF. That's a much higher chance of genetic issues than you'd find in the offspring of an incestuous relationship. Should she have been restricted from marrying anyone that was a CF carrier?

and multiple husband marriages

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL TO COMPARE A GAY PERSON NOTICE I SAID PERSON THEY ARE NOT ANIMALS TO BESTIALITY JUST SHOWS YOU LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE.

That's right Giants fan, our boy Banjo appears to be back! But he has disguised himself with his new "liberal" position on gay marraige. Notice he also did not mention his deepest closeted desire this time.

What?? She is the face of where the Republican Party will be going. The old guard has done enough damage focusing on ramming social values down our throat.

PS - the Republican Party isn't exclusive...you don't need to be let in. I'm a center mind Republican and believe in gay marriage, freedom for a woman to choose, fiscal responsibility and changing our party from the inside (just like Ms. McCain)

"Another talking head, attention hound, causing controversy for money."

And how does this make her any different from Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc.? Except that she is not an extremist, of course.

"And how does this make her any different from Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, etc.? Except that she is not an extremist, of course."

Or if she were still democrat, how would it make her different from Maher, Franken,....etc.

Aland2 and Jjtothethird, the point is it doesnt' make her any different. Birds of a feather.