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A new poll finds 58 percent of Republicans doubt Obama is American. Orly Taitz, the mastermind behind the Obama birth-certificate controversy, tells The Daily Beast’s Max Blumenthal why the president should be jailed and why Lou Dobbs is her biggest fan.
Almost as soon as Orly Taitz answered her cellphone, before I could even ask a single question, the leader of the movement determined to disprove President Obama’s American citizenship breathlessly told me the president was “connected” to 39 bogus Social Security numbers, including one for a deceased person born in 1890. “If Obama is not stopped, we will be in Nazi Germany!” Taitz, who has a thick Russian accent, shrieked. “Forgery is a criminal matter and he committed it. Obama should be in the Big House, not the White House!”
Since Taitz’s “birther” campaign began, in the summer of 2008, during the late stages of the Democratic primaries, the dentist, lawyer, and mother of three has begun winning friends in high places. Taitz told me excitedly that since she opened her Facebook account, she has had to hire a staff of five to process the thousands of friend requests she receives each week.
“Anybody who does not take Obama’s word at face value will be harassed by brownshirts like Rachel Maddow,” said Taitz.
Among those requesting her online friendship, Taitz said, are House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA), Rep. Mary Bono (R-CA), and Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele. She has even received a request, she said, from someone saying they are Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. “I personally checked [the request] and determined that it came from his office,” Taitz said.
Among Taitz’s “biggest supporters,” she said, is CNN anchor Lou Dobbs. “I did Lou’s radio show for half an hour and he was very understanding,” she told me. “He became a supporter and since then he became a supporter of the whole [Obama eligibility] issue.” Indeed, during the July 15 broadcast of Dobbs’ radio show, he praised Taitz’s work, suggested Obama might be “undocumented,” and demanded the president “show the documents” to prove he was born in the United States.
When I spoke to Taitz, she had just finished taping an interview with The Colbert Report. By her own count, she has been interviewed by no fewer than 170 news outlets around the world. While she’s grateful for the exposure, the scrutiny of the media seems to have her in a persistent state of heightened exasperation.
“This is Nazi Germany! These are brownshirts in action!” Taitz exclaimed when asked about recent segments by Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, and Jon Stewart mocking her campaign and questioning her credibility. “Anybody who does not take Obama’s word at face value will be harassed by brownshirts like Rachel Maddow.”
Taitz’s apparent view of present-day American life through the lens of World War II Europe may be due in part to her upbringing in the Soviet republic of Moldova and then in Israel, where she lived until she immigrated to the U.S. in 1987. Now a resident of Buena Park, California, Taitz said she feared Obama would transform her adopted country into a totalitarian state as soon as he stepped onto the national stage. Reading online discussions about Obama’s supposed plan to create a “civilian national security force” aroused Taitz’s early alarm.
“I realized that Obama was another Stalin—it’s a cross between Stalinist USSR and Nazi Germany,” she said.
After becoming transfixed by online conspiracy theories claiming Obama’s family had forged his birth certificate in Hawaii, Taitz snapped into action. She filed a lawsuit in June 2008 with California Secretary of State Debra Bowen demanding an investigation into Obama’s eligibility to serve as president. Taitz’s plaintiff in the case was Wiley Drake, an Orange County radio preacher and former second vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention who has acknowledged he once publicly prayed for Obama’s death.
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misha1000
Orly Taitz has dual US/Israel citizenship. Her law "degree" is from Taft, an unaccredited correspondence outfit.
Taitz is doing this because she feels Obama is bad for Israel, and believes if she makes enough noise, he will be driven from office. She is petty and vindictive, like other refuseniks like Lieberman and Sharansky.
Israel is now run by right wingers, steering the country down the same road as South Africa. They have forgotten BenGurion's principles, encouraged by US evangelicals who want a violent confrontation to hasten the Second Coming.
Hagee is a closet anti-Semite, who trashes us in private. He hates Judaism and Jewish culture, and wants it destroyed like the Nazis. Jews who get in bed with him are like Nazi collaborators.
I have many Arab friends, and they must be treated with dignity. I want Jewish culture to flourish, and it cannot when we mistreat others. Because of what was done to us, does not give us license to do it in turn.
openhand
Thank you, I could not agree with you more.
The religious right resolve their conflict with Israel like this.
They are anti-semetic because Jews killed their God.
They support Judaism only in as much as it is the foundation of their faith and the fact that Jesus was Jewish. The only case of evolution they believe in, is Jews evolving into Christians. Ann Coulter makes the point.
They have no link with Islam and so they are in total opposition.
They therefore support the Jewish state of Israel in an attempt to maintain access and influence until the day of the second coming. At that point their hatred of the Jews will be unmasked and their demand that everyone submit to their way, will be absolute. It is sick, and fortunately a fantasy. No God of creation would align with such self obsessed, greedy, ignorant and down right nasty people.
There are similarities and differences in the story of our conflict in South Africa, but there are real lessons in how to navigate the inevitable process of negotiations without pre-conditions. Bottom line, everyone wants a place in the sun, people demand respect and hate hypocrisy.
In a way, Obama is to Israel what Mandela is to South Africa, a chance for reconciliation. This must not be mistaken for absolution.
ima2miri
The Jews killed a God? What history book are you reading from?
misha1000
"In a way, Obama is to Israel what Mandela is to South Africa, a chance for reconciliation."
We should use Mandela and Tutu as our model, instead of licking our wounds. Obama wants to be the president who created Palestine, and I fully support him. I repeat: Arabs must be treated with dignity, and there are too many Israelis who do not. As one Palestinian co-worker once said to me "I didn't think there were any Jews like you."
misha1000
"The Jews killed a God?"
We killed Jesus. Get with the program.
But wait, it gets better. I have a piece of the One True Cross in my home, AND a vial of Jesus' blood in my fridge. Where have you been?
clearthinker
openhand (clinched fist would be more appropriate). Your rant is sick and filled with hate and stereotype of some Nazi Hitler underpinnings. No real Christian hates. Yes, there are some idiots within the religion, but love is the most important thing for a Christian to show the fruits of their spirit (Corinthians 13). You mention a "case for evolution" which begs the question, HOw can you believe in God and evolution? You speak of hating hypocrisy, yet you are hypocrital when you say we "deny evolution" in one sentenence and then say "no God of creation would align themselves with such...." Do you wish to have it both ways? and if so how can you have any principals whatsoever for what you preach in this rant? If you are apologetic to the Jewish fate, then maybe you should read the book of Samual and how the Jewish people needed a king because they denied God and denied their faith. Where is your faith openhand? Is it in a man named Obama? CLearly it is and that is sad.
The Jews hung Jesus on a cross. Christians do not hate the jewish people for this because Christians know that Israel and the Jews are God's chosen people....and because, as Christians, we are taught to forgive and taught to love each other as he (Jesus) loved us. Clearly, this is difficult to do, but know self-respecting Christian hates in the same vane you do with this sloppy rant.
misha1000
"The Jews hung Jesus on a cross."
Yes!! And we enjoyed it. Rally 'round the cross, boys. Can't wait to get some more. We were just getting warmed up. And I have a vial of blood in my fridge.
"the Jewish people needed a king because they denied God and denied their faith."
How did you find out? Who let you in on the secret? My bar mitzvah was a sham - it's true. And I eat pork when no one is looking. Oh, well.
"The Jews hung Jesus on a cross. Christians do not hate the jewish people for this as Christians, we are taught to forgive and taught to love each other as he (Jesus) loved us. Clearly, this is difficult to do"
Gee, thanks for letting us off the hook, figuratively speaking of course.
Let me guess: next you're going to tell us that Auschwitz was divine retribution for not accepting Jesus - right? And that terror against Israel is divine retribution - how close am I? Someone in Palin's church, when I lived in Anchorage, told me that.
Another ignorant fundie bigot. Let me tell you this: my wife told me when I was in the hospital, in a coma from a stroke, some missionary came to my bed wanting to baptize me in case I did not wake up. She sent him away. Even though I was in a coma, I heard everything. When I was lucid, I told the RN to keep missionaries away from me.
Yuck. And I was raised by survivors. Did they deserve it?
Should I forgive you for callous statements? Clearly, this is difficult to do.
whipmawhopma
clearthinker - "The Jews hung Jesus on a cross."
Roman soldiers executed Jesus on the orders of Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor of Judea. As for why Pilate chose to do this, well, it was politics both imperial and local in nature.
misha1000
"Roman soldiers executed Jesus"
Hey, my reputation as a Christ killer gives me street cred.
sophia5
Is there any description other than
right wing whack job to describe
people like Orly Taitz ?
Same goes for you far left goobers
who think the U.S. government blew
up the Twin Towers.
Were the planes that flew into
the towers a mirage, or somebody
photoshopped the whole thing ?
All of you run away together.
CalSailor
clearthinker:
If you really were a clear thinker, you would realize that evolution is a scientific theorem, and faith is outside the realm of science. It is perfectly possible to believe in both God AND evolution...each in their proper place. The Bible, in the first chapters in Gen is about Who and Why. The How and When are not what it is discussing. The Bible does not claim to be a book of science as the 21st century understands it, so please, give it its dignity and proper place as a book of faith, bearing testimony to that which science cannot prove. Those who demand it to be a book of science misuse it. A lot of our difficulties in the middle east are because we try and use the bible to justify our foreign policy decisions, and end up pitting one people against another, which does not do honor to God.
Openhand's post says that the people he caricatures do NOT believe in evolution...not in a scientific sense, that is. The only "evolution" they DO believe is that all Jews will become Christians, something which is not supported by Paul in either Romans or Galatians.
Again, you say: If you are apologetic to the Jewish fate, then maybe you should read the book of Samual and how the Jewish people needed a king because they denied God and denied their faith. Where is your faith openhand?
Assuming you really meant "apologetic" in its correct meaning as "defense" I truly don't understand your post. You seem to state that the Jews are (eternally?) to blame because the Jewish people of the Biblical times demanded a king? And that has to do with the modern State of Israel how?
The far right of the Christian fundamentalist movement has a scenario that the rapture will initiate a period in the middle east, and will ultimately give Jews the choice: Become Christians, or die. They have a reading of Revelation that is truly bizare. And because of that, some of these people are encouraging hostilities in order that the Rapture may occur sooner rather than later. Aside from the nature of the God which underlies this theology, it is not God- or Christ- centered, but ultimately man-centered. We call this "heresy."
Pr Chris
whipmawhopma
CalSailor - "If you really were a clear thinker, you would realize that evolution is a scientific theorem, and faith is outside the realm of science. It is perfectly possible to believe in both God AND evolution."
I agree. I am a born again Christian, or rather Christ follower - however lazy and reluctant I am about it at times. At the same time I also believe that some variant of what is called 'evolution' could most certainly be responsible for what is called Creation. In fact, I believe it to be true. Whether it's Intelligent Design or God as the Watchmaker or something else, the truth is that one never knows with God.
Job 37:5 - God's voice thunders in marvelous ways; he does great things beyond our understanding.
Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD.
I am an amateur astronomer, mostly armchair as I live in a big city, yet I am nevertheless aware that the Earth is in the suburbs of one galaxy among billions of galaxies the universe, which itself might be part of a great multiverse. Sometimes then I consider this I wonder if God really exists, but I remember...
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Hanging the earth upon nothing certainly sounds like the invisible force of gravity that keeps our planet in orbit around the sun. I have some doubts that Moses had any notion about gravity other than that things will fall down when dropped, so I think that knowledge came from somewhere else.
Of course, I might be a damned heretic. Perhaps clearthinker will let me know.
Note: I don't want to get into a theological argument with anyone about whether or not Moses wrote the Book of Job. My mind is too weak and lazy.
citivas
I always laugh at the stupidity of the "jews kileld Jesus" statements because it really is remarkable how stupid some people are. Besides being technically wrong, in that the Romans killed Jesus, its just an absurd statement that any GROUP of people killed anyone. Individuals kill, not races or ethnic groups. To assign all Jewish people responsibility for one murder 2,000 years ago is illogical but if you do apply that logic then be extension you have to assign all Christians responsibility for every murder and genocide committed by other Christians. As it happens many of the most infamous mass murderers in history and a disproportionate number of serial killers were Christians. Therefore by the logic of anti-Semites, ALL Christians are responsible for their actions.
Chuckv
Misha1000, the bad news is that Rev. Hagee is a closet anti-Semite. The worse news is that he supports Israel--or to be more precise, the worse news is WHY he supports Israel. Hagee believes that the Last Days approach and that one of the preconditions is that Israel must incorporate into its borders all the land of ancient Israel. Thus he makes common cause with the most extreme Israeli nationalists.
Of course any attempt to do this would cause an extremely bloody war, but what the heck, it is not called the Last Days for nothing. Hagee believes that peace in the Middle East is against God's Plan and will use his influence and money to keep it from happening.
Piscesprincess
You say Hagee believes that peace in the Middle East is against God's Plan? Then, if that is true, Rev Hagee has not read the Book of Revelations
It is very clearly stated there that the Last Days will not come until there is Peace in the Middle East. and somewhere else it states we all see as in a glass darkly. So, there. (no one will know neither the day or the hour of the Last Days ) and I could quote more but it would get draggy.
CalSailor
Chuchv:
This is one of the clearest readings of Hagee's beliefs I've seen recently. He is determined to do what he can to bring about the Rapture as soon as possible. The problem is that the time of the Rapture (which is a thin doctrine on which to hang a whole theology) is, in Hagee's belief, something which we can influence. In other words, In Hagee's beliefs, the Rapture is something WE do, not something God does. And again, it puts humankind at the center of the universe. It is that eternal narcissistic impulse at work again.
Pr Chris
Uncommonsense
You state as a fact that Taitz has dual citizenship. How do you know this? Is she a US citizen? Have you seen the originals of her citizenship papers? What about the applications for citizenship? Seen the originals of those? How do we know she did not lie on the application? Wouldn't that void her alleged citizenship? Have we seen her original birth certificate, by the way?
misha1000
"You state as a fact that Taitz has dual citizenship. How do you know this?"
I never saw any proof she renounced her Israel citizenship.
"Is she a US citizen?" Her three children were anchor babies. Five years after immigrating here, she became a citizen, through her children.
" Have we seen her original birth certificate, by the way?" She was born in Moldova, when it was part of the Soviet Union. If she could prove she was a refusenik, the Israel government gave her several priviledges. So I'm sure she showed the authorities she was born in the USSR - in fact she made sure they knew it.
Also, as a refusenik, she was given Israel citizenship almost immediately.
roger37
Orly should shut up and show us her Taitz.
misha1000
"Orly should shut up and show us her Taitz."
bada-bing
menckenlite
Whatever her motives why doesn't Obama release a real certificate and his college records? One of his relatives said he was born in Kenya. Ridiculing these people shows a lack of respect and that Obama is a bully. The reason why there are opposition parties in democracies is so that they can raise issue as these. Problem in USA is that almost all elected officials are spineless. Personal attacks are not answers to the questions. Obama speaks like Marx and acts like Stalin.
Ritarita
Poor Mencken
Is spinning in his grave.
Congratulations on being
The deserving recipient of
The Orly Taitz Pinhead award of the day.
This comment has been removed by The Daily Beast's editors.
OffenbachStutz
Dear menckenlite: H.L. Mencken would be the first in line to ridicule the "birthers." I strongly suggest you change your delusional moniker, as well
as your delusional "ideas."
pacifistgunslinger
You have obviously not read Marx nor studied Stalin. Get thee to a library.
akcita
I don't truly believe the President is not a citizen. It is funny though the double standard that the press has in this.
Who here doesn't have their Birth Certificate? I have a copy of mine ( several in fact) and have had to provide it at various points in my life. This is such an easy controversy to resolve assuming that the President has his real certificate.
The real problem is if Hawaii really has no proof other than a certificate of live birth, and The President has none either. Why is this so? Are there thousands of other Hawaiians in the same position? THe media is treating this story like an albatross. Just chase all the facts down rather than saying that a Certificate of live birth is the same as birth certificate, or that the short form will suffice.
Too much of the story smells of deflection.
This lady sounds like a nut, but so do half the environmentalists and trotskyites I've met.
Poor Rita,
relying on virulence,
to deliver insult,
rather than arguments,
perhaps we should stifle,
all those that question,
when answers seem terrible,
for the media to mention,
So lets be dismissive,
and all hope for quiet,
and we'll eat media pablum,
as part of our diet.
RealCalGal
Papers? Papers? Obama don't have to show you no friggin' papers.
Is there some reason you don't believe the Hawaiian government?
If Obama ever DID knuckle under to these knuckle-draggers, I'd lose all respect for him. He's the President, and he's right to ignore you and your ilk.
akcita
@stutz,
Mencken was pretty varied in his thoughts and opinions. You must be a tru authority to divine the opinons of a man dead 50 years on a present day situation.
Based on his hate of the New Deal, Politicians in general, and sadonic view of human nature there is no real saying what he would think, but I believe he might have had a few choice words for the Socialist in Chief and the current state of Democracy, as well as for Ms. Taitz. All very sarcastic of course.
misha1000
"Obama speaks like Marx and acts like Stalin."
Fine. The GOP's goal is to theocritize the country. Evangelicals want to nullify the 1st Amendment, and declare the Jewish people a protected minority. Evangelicals' goal is make this officially a Christian nation.
Don't believe me? Copy and paste this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_amendment
and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Anderson
"In his second term as a Congressman, Anderson introduced a constitutional amendment that would have "recognize[d] the law and authority of Jesus Christ" over the United States."
Ritarita
I beg your pardon
Akcita-
I am the ANTI name caller.
I was merely presenting an award
To our friend
Menckenlite.
clearthinker
menckenlite proves his point with "personal attacks are not answers to questions". Look at thes poor rants, all they can do is shout from the roof top "IDIOT". Basically, your stupid if you don't agree with the Great O and all his followers. This is the template for liberals. Cuss and scream idiot.
The media and this website have selective hearing. When Repubs come up with something like this then they are all lined up and shot down with the same old "your stupid", "your racist", or "your a redneck".... on and on. However, when Dan Rather and CBS made up the story that Bush never served in the National Guard and were proven otherwise then the story goes away. Never make the libertards look like, libertards.
nice job menckenlite, way to piss em off.
misha1000
"The real problem is if Hawaii really has no proof other than a certificate of live birth, and The President has none either. Why is this so? Are there thousands of other Hawaiians in the same position? Just chase all the facts down rather than saying that a Certificate of live birth is the same as birth certificate, or that the short form will suffice."
Call Honolulu Vital Statistics, 808-586-4539
xlntcat
I was born in Louisiana and my real certificate is a Certificate of Live Birth so I assume ole Bobby Jindal's record of birth looks like mine and President Obamas. There was a three hour documentary on PBS on Obama's years at Harvard including the fact the he graduated at the very top of his class and some of his professors affirmed that he was the brightest student they had ever taught. Palin on the other had refused to release her college records, not Obama. Obama released his medical records in print to the press. McCain only allowed select members a few hours to review his in a medical facility and Palin refused to release hers. Palin did present a letter from a doctor similar to the one kid's get to go back to school after being out with an illness. Have you ever seen Bill Clinton or George Bush's birth certificate? If not, why not. How do you know that they are "Real" Americans.
I realize that I am wasting my time with any one who wants to cling to the 'birther issue. These are the lunatic, racist fringe who believe that Obama's race makes him unworthy of being their president.
Uncommonsense
Personal attacks are not answers to the questions? Then you personally attack My President! Why do you hate America?
shryockke
probably for the same reason ex-president bush never released his real vietnam-era military records.
CalSailor
Menkenlite:
Please define "release" a real certificate. Do you mean: Mail YOU a personal copy? Maybe he should mail it out to everyone in the US?He requested a copy of his birth certificate last year, as part of his campaign. He received a certified copy of the birth certificate on file in Honolulu, according to Hawaii State Law (BTW...where's YOUR ORIGINAL?...not a certified copy from the country courthouse where you were born...because if for some reason you can't find the original, that's how you solve the problem. You get a CERTIFIED COPY, and that's what he did.)
He posted photographic copies of his CERTIFIED birth certificate on the web...because that's all you can do on the web. You can't post a piece of paper...you post photos of the paper. Obama also made the copy he received from Hawaii available to legitimate reporters so they could attest to the FACT that the copy he has is what is posted on the net. The reporters have conducted an examination of the physical copy and posted their findings: He was born in Hawaii. (BTW they are from Florida, not Chicago...they are not part of any group of Obama's friends) Two different Honolulu papers, taking information released from the state records office, announced the birth in their paper within about a week of his brith. These records are not paid ads supplied by the families, but a simple listing of vital statistics, like every paper in the country. Mine posts births on Tuesdays. The Governor of Hawaii and the chief of the vital records in Honolulu have both attested to the authenticity of the records and that the copy of his birth certificate is correct.
As to the "relatives", the one who "says" he was born in Kenya, she said THE NEXT DAY, that she had misspoken, and that he was NOT born in Kenya. (she said she had misunderstood the question, as English is not her primary language, and misunderstood the interpreter). Did you perhaps miss that fact in your perusal of the coverage of this story.
Now, menkenlite:
PLEASE STATE CLEARLY what objections you still have. What would prove to you that his birth records properly exist?. (And if you say "nothing" you merely show that you are paranoid and gullible.)
How about Sen. McCain? He was born off-base in Panama City. Is HE a "natural born" citizen? How do you know?
Pr Chris
CalSailor
clearthinker:
"However, when Dan Rather and CBS made up the story that Bush never served in the National Guard and were proven otherwise then the story goes away. Never make the libertards look like, libertards."
Yea, it went away, alright. It ended Dan Rather's career on CBS. How many people have paid ANY price for calling our President a non-citizen, a muslim (he's not), anti-American (Michele Bachmann), a socialist (no one posting has any idea what that really means!), etc? No one. That's why it hangs on. On the left, the fringe stories have been killed. On the right, they get milked for "more".
How long did McCain citizenship questions hang on? about two seconds, because the Obama campaign squashed them. What did Palin do to ANY fringe reports? She just said "you betcha"...
Pr chris
BBrydson
Why is anyone giving this person "blogtime" or "airtime" for that matter.
Obviously she is one of the fringe people in the Republican Party along with Lou Dobbs.
wackyone
Orly Taitz now claims the President is "connected" to 39 social security numbers and guilty of fraud. This seems to be a slanderous statement coming from this supposed attorney at law.
TREESKE
Totally agree! We should make more noise!
NoMoreBlatherDotCom
And, all that has precisely what exactly to do with her argument? While I'm not familiar with everything she says and some of what I've heard I disagree with, how about trying to present a valid, intellectually-honest counter-argument?
I've asked, and asked, and asked again, and I can't find even a single person who can offer a valid, intellectually-honest counter-argument to my coverage of this issue:
24ahead.com/s/obama-citizenship
If you scroll to the list of posts on that page, you'll see a wide array of media sources that have lied about this issue. In fact, CNN just made something up: they claimed that HI's governor had verified BHO was born there, yet that never happened. In fact, HI's governor sends out a form letter noting that it would be illegal for her to verify he was born there. Despite that, CNN outright lied and said she'd verified it.
If all you've done is listened to hacks like Blumenthal and the MSM on this issue, please take a few minutes and look at the original documentation, such as the two press releases issued by HI. Then, compare that original documentation to what hacks like Blumenthal and MSM reporters have told you.
ObamaBinLying
Sorry, no--Orly Taitz couldn't possibly have a law degree from an "unaccredited correspondence outfit" as you claim and be a licensed attorney (as she is.) You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
misha1000
@ObamaBinLying
You're the one who is wrong. California is one of the few states which still allows law reading instead of school. Because Taft is unaccredited, she had to take a baby bar at the end of her first year, which she passed. Because Taft is unaccredited, she cannot practice law in any other state.
"William Howard Taft University is not accredited by the American Bar Association, nor is it seeking such accreditation because it is ineligible. No on-line law school is accredited by the American Bar Association. William Howard Taft Law School is not accredited by the State Bar of California.
The law school is not accredited by the American Bar Association. Because of this, students interested in taking the bar exam must take and pass the First-Year Law Students' Examination, "Baby Bar", at the end of their first year in order to receive credit for their law study and eventually qualify to sit for the California Bar Exam. Currently the State of California is the only U.S. jurisdiction that allows graduates of online law schools to sit for its bar exam."
copy and paste: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Howard_Taft_University
nickatdabeach
Here is Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. read it & weep.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764
Ritarita
Nicky-
You've already stated
That you want to fill Todd's shoes
After the Palin's are divorced.
Is anyone supposed to take you seriously?
sippewissett
You're back with your lazy, slanderous postings. If you took ANY time at all, you would know by now that the supposed Kenyan birth certificate is a hoax, perpetrated on Taitz. There are several points about that document that show fraud, not the least of which is that Kenya was not an independent country at the time of his birth! You are a sucker for what you want to believe instead of doing your homework so YOU (let alone the other birthers) look ridiculous.
misha1000
One more note: to equate Obama with Hitler is beyond vile. And her BFF Wiley Drake, who openly says he wants Obama to literally die, is another closet anti-Semite.
These people are reptiles who slithered from under their rocks. How is this crowd going to de-ligitimize Corey Booker when he announces? I can see it now: Corsi and Martin will write a "book," claiming Booker was born in Canada, or his father was a student here on a visa - you know, the 2-parent rule that only birthers can find in the Constitution.
They can't stand the changing face of America, and are going mad. Like Crazy Eileen said full of emotion, "I want my country back." Sorry Eileen, Sotomayor is going to be confirmed, and one day we'll have a president named Gonzales - just like we now have a son of Kenya.
And the Israelis are going to have to learn to stand on their own. Tough love? Israel should turn itself into the Taiwan of the Middle East. I know - my wife is from Taipei.
bcaldwell
One problem with the Israel as Taiwan of the Middle East. Taiwan has 100 miles of water separating it from China and has the US fleet as guarantor of its independence along with Matsu and Quemoy as the tripwire/sacrifices. Israel has .....open frontier populated by a bunch of people that do not like it. The US Med fleet is not enough to protect it or for that matter evacuate it.
fk4711
China has 46,000 missiles aiming at Taiwan, so I think the comparison is correct in this aspect. Except that China is so much more powerful than Taiwan and can take over the tiny island any time if they want to. Israel, on the other hand, have the world's super power United States giving it lot's of economic and military aids and if the Arab nations attack Israel, US will no doubt come to it's aid while no help will be given to Taiwan. Taiwan is indeed the orphan of the world.
AlanD2
fk4711: China could certainly destroy Taiwan (nukes) or badly damage it (conventional missiles), but take over? China doesn't have the naval and military transport ships to force a landing on Taiwan in the face of the fire of Taiwan's military.
clearthinker
I really love you misha1000. Your precious little heart. I thought you were a woman on her period this whole time, but to find out your a man is just crazy.... I mean that with the most loving heart of course. You see, I as a christian love you, but you as a jew hate me. Amazing, that bible thing hasn't changed a bit in 2000 years. "You will be persecuted for my name's (Jesus) sake. You have ranted your little heart crazy throughout this thread. Your little fingers must be tired. I will pray for you that the devil of pride will leave you and you can be content with your king......Obama.
nortonclybourn
That's right, if someone disagrees with you, it's because they are in darkness and are blind to your Divine Light. Anyone who doesnt see the Truth that you know is benighted. How nice for you, but the rest of us don't need to hear it.
YogiBarrister
Clearwater, are you serious, did you really just write this?
" I thought you were a woman on her period this whole time"
Misha has been restarined. If Jesus does return, he's going to toss your ridiculous self into a very deep hole, good on you for digginbg it for him. Sheesh, the rightwing nuttia has become completely unglued.
CalSailor
Clearthinker:
I would suggest you look at the two posts you have previously written. You claim to be a Christian, yet you despise Misha...your words to the contrary appear to be satire. Jews do not hate Christians, but you know, they might be forgiven for doing so, as the history of Christianity's interaction with Judaism over the last 2000 years hasn't been so stellar. You might try reading Constantine's Sword, by James Carroll. Very good. Lots of food for thought.
Look back at your posts and ask: Do you really portray yourself as someone who loves? "you have ranted your little heart crazy..." "that the devil of pride will leave you" "your little fingers must be tired." is hardly the stuff of "love"...or else you have a strange definition. That is not agape, nor philos, nor even eros. Try again, please. And before you post, please try praying for a spirit of charity.
BTW: "I will pray for you that the devil of pride will leave you and you can be content with your king....Obama." What a word to write to a Jew OR another Christian. Misha isn't the one who has a problem with "pride."
Pr Chris
SteveStephens
This bitch is crazier than a shit-house rat.
Ritarita
I heard
Orly Taitz on the radio
The other day.
Doing an interview
With several other speakers.
She was a wild-woman.
Yelling at everyone-
Telling them not to interrupt her.
It was hideous.
Uncommonsense
I think that was Zsa Zsa Gabor.
misha1000
"I think that was Zsa Zsa Gabor."
She's the lost Gabor sister. (apologies to Stewart)
amapola101
Ritarita,Hi its Amapola101.Since I joined TDB,there are a few people I like to read.even if I disagree they have a great way of communicating.I like to see what you say.I am having a terrible time,I cannot understand anything that is going on here.!!!!Prime minister B.Netanyahu,called her.BBNetanyahu called her????I dont think so.!!!!and all this about Jews,Christians, Nazis,the cross and ofcourse we all need to have the utmost respect for each other.But she (taitz)does not represents Jews.
Ritarita
Don't worry
Amapola-
A lot of us don't understand
This crazysauce situation either.
Maybe better not to get it.
misha1000
"This bitch is crazier than a shit-house rat."
Hey, hey, hey...rats are completely rational. Lay off them.
rtwyatt3
The only thing more pathetic and disgusting about this woman is the people who believe this garbage.
Granite
Someone needs to do so more checking into her background. She's a loon.
I saw her on TV the other day claiming that the president needs not only to be born in America but so do both of his parents. Clearly she came to the U.S. after the ninth grade and missed Civics class. And she claims to be a lawyer!
Her comparisons to Nazi Germany are an insult to people who survived Nazi Germany. Her rantings about Obama's birth certificate I can ignore, but the trivialization of the terror of Hitler Germany makes my blood boil!
Cymatic
The comparisons to Hitler and Stalin are pure paranoia and are disrespectful to the tens of millions of people that they killed. The death tolls from WWII and Stalin's actions against his own people are the greatest attrocities in recorded histories. If she had any experience with real totalitarian government she would not compare Maddow or Olbermann to being Brownshirts. The fact that elected members in the house are listening to her makes me quite sad.
johnnyapplecd
Where are all the usual conservative fuckwad moron trolls to support this loon? What's the matter guys, this one a little too crazy for you?
clearthinker, I know you're reading. C'mon, justify this insane bullshit. You know you want to.
clearthinker
can't do it johnny. i just can't do it!!!!!!
Every party has its insane nutjob. You distance yourself from the Bush and Cheney conspired to take down the twin towers crowd and I'll distance myself from this nut case. deal?
kobie173
Hold on a fuckin minute.
58% of a "major" political party believes that Obama is not a citizen.
The idea that the loony idea that 9/11 was an inside job is anything remotely comparable to the "birther" movement is disingenuous at best, and pure horseapples at worst.
godlessliberal
I'm convinced that this woman is a KBG operative who is trying to wreak havoc on the USA, by pretending to be a concerned citizen.Beware The Kremlin is out to get us (especially now that Gov. Palin is no longer up there in Alaska making sure Putin doesn't rear his head)!!!
bcaldwell
Blumenthal, you must be a shill for the Democrat party or Obama to keep up on a bunch of loons on the the FAAAAAAAR right side side of the Republican Party. This whole birth certificate thing is a ruse and you ought to see it for what it is......foolishness. We Republicans have the Birthers, you Democrats have the whack jobs over at the Daily Kos who believe that Bush and Cheney somehow collaborated with 19 Middle eastern guys to take down the World Trade Center.
This is a non story and the more you guys bring it up and get all panties in a wad over this, the more the whack jobs are gonna think they are on to something. You are already seen as in the tank for him anyway and this type of constant reporting about a bunch of paranoids just plays into it and confirms it for them.
eroteme
problem is that it is not a non story at all, it is an article of faith in the loony section of the GOP (otherwise known as the the GOP base). There are far more of these than the left wing loonies who believe that 911 was a Bush/Mossad plot. Every Rep congressman is going to have a torrid time in the upcoming recess when they will be heckled at every meeting by birthers.
bhavanibbana
False analogy; There has never been a group of Democratic representatives introduce legislation demanding Bush prove he was not involved with 9/11.
Cymatic
Great point.
Gkenyon
You just exposed your ignorance even further, bcaldwell. It shows that, instead of actually visiting the Daily Kos and reading the posts, you have taken Bill O'Reilly's word about them. I visit the site every day, and have for over a year. I have yet to read a single blogger pushing the cretinous "truther" theory.
In fact, the majority of the truthers are right wingers or libertarians. They voted for Ron Paul en masse -- and you would be hard pressed to find a single diarist on the Daily Kos who endorsed that nutjob.
You accuse Blumenthal of being a shill for the Democrat party? What does that make you -- a FOX News parrot?
StellaRay
Gkenyon---
You are absolutely correct. I've never seen a truther on Daily Kos. Most there are too intelligent and well informed to be anything but bored with such nonsense. Uber progressive Thom Hartmann won't allow it to be discussed by any caller on his show. Never seen it on Ed, Keith or Rachel either.
The other night I was having a discussion with some politcal and well informed friends about birther nonsense and I brought up truthers. None of them had any idea what that was. Why? Because the democrats didn't try to use it and the msm wouldn't touch it. Bill O'Reilly is trying to dilute the idiocy of today's GOP's attraction to birther crap with false comparisons to the Daily Kos.
The lie. They lie. They lie. All. The. Time.
blinky
The republican party has a genuine mental illness...A new poll shows that less than 50 percent of republicans believe president Obama to be a citizen.
soitgoesjen
I believe the exact number is 42 percent.
misha1000
"bcaldwell: Blumenthal, you must be a shill for the Democrat party or Obama"
And you are a Fox toadie. Fair exchange of insults, no?
Synaesthete
Is it really the "FAAAAAAAR right" if 58% of Republicans doubt Obama's citizenship, compared to 7% of Democrats, and 17% of Independents? I think that given those numbers, it is relevant to look into.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/07/31/fewer_than_half_of_republic ans_think_obama_is_a_citizen.html
Piscesprincess
Of course, if the MSM would stop pushing this story Every Day, maybe, just maybe it would die a natural death. There is Nothing to prove.
enigm3535
I found the KOS a couple of months ago and have found the opinions published there to be mostly reasonable [although, occasionally too crass for my tastes - but never, to-date, "fringe-lunatic"].
After reading your post, I sent them an email regarding your opine that they publish fringe lunatic opinions regarding Bush being involved in 9/11. This is their response [and, BTW, you sir, are an ashite]:
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/DailyKos_FAQ#Controversial_Diary_Topics
DailyKos accepts that the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by agents of Al-Qaeda. It is forbidden to write diaries that:
- refer to claims that American, British, Israeli, or any government assisted in the attacks
- refer to claims that the airplanes that crashed into the WTC and Pentagon were not the cause of the damage to those buildings or their subsequent collapse.
Authoring or recommending these diaries may result in banning from Daily Kos.
donatello
Your definition of FAAAAAAAR right seem a little off. Your birthers seem to consist of most of the pubs unless, of course, they have to justify their opinion with fact.
CalSailor
It is a non-story (birthers) except that according to several posts on the net today (Saturday), more than 60% of white Republicans don't believe Obama is a US citizen. Now, is the GOP the party of old southern white racists, or are they a party with legitimate claims to represent a significant percentage of the US population?
I think the answer to that is simple: Look at pictures of the two respective national Conventions; The GOP convention was fully of whites, mostly over 40. The Dem. convention was a riot of all colors and ethnicities, and all ages. The young people were engaged, excited. If the GOP doesn't figure out how to broaden their party, they'll age out in about 15 years. And then we WILL have a problem, because one party no matter how good their platform might be considered to be...is NOT a good prescription for the country.
So, GOP, for the well being of the country, police youselves and stop the mad dash to the far right "world is flat" "birther and deather" movement.
Pr chris
No2Torture
This whole thing was funny at first and now it's just turned into one of the most vile racist rumer's that i have seen spread around since the 9-11 truthers came on the scene.
BluesClues
I find it interesting that the people who left comments responded with nothing more than Ad Hominem attacks against Orly's character. It really shows the depth of thought The Daily Beast's readership is capable of. They not once explain away the fact that Obama's armada of lawyers have spent millions of dollars getting rid of lawsuits asking him to show a simple piece of paper. Only a revolution will overturn this Platonian slavery being pushed into high gear...
MariosRight
So you are on a first name basis with "Orly". I guess that shows the bias in your post. Also, I don't think you are capable of keeping up with intelligent minds of DB's readership.
Piscesprincess
Millions of Dollars' ? what Are you talking about. President Obama's birth certificate is on the Internet for All to see. photos taken from every angle of the unfolded page. go fish.
donatello
How's this for a personal attack. Dumbass comes to mind.
roger37
What the hell is "Platonian slavery?" Or is it an invention of the Freepers that exists only in their minds?
You really sound like a wacko, BluesClues.
Ritarita
BluesClues-
You're a LIVE ONE!
Say HI to Orly
If you can get a word in edgewise.
The Google's not giving me
Anything on Platonian slavery
Is that an original?
Nice! Creepy! Good job!
BullMoose
Sounds like Homeland Security needs to lock this advocate of armed rebellion up.
And they wonder why normal people know how dangerous the religious right are.
sippewissett
Oh, please. What inventive. Do your homework and check Factcheck.org, the NON-PARTISAN Web site that verifies statements and rumors. They have looked into the birth certificate issue, the Hawaiian health dept. has verified their digitization of paper records and there's a birth announcement in two Hawaiian papers immediately after his birth. Give it a rest. Obama is our president and you are VERY disrespectful of that fact. There is no "revolution" necessary, but the idea of one helps keep the fringers like you riled up. Too bad that a smart black man is in the White House. We'd be in a FAR worse state if the McCain-Palin combo were there with Wasilla Hillbilly appointments.
This is a fraudulant request that is a side issue to the big economic and social issues we face. Move on and get a life that is grounded in something more constructive than demanding a piece of paper from the president. (Let's face it. You wouldn't believe anything he'd produce in person.)
nkadzi
she needs to see a shrink and charge the bill to Lou Dobbs!!
MurrayAbraham
Under the cover of curiosity for the phenomenon, you legitimize this nonsense. She and WorldNetDaily have found a good business with this conspiracy theory and you help them.
stopper22
amen.
Blumenthal, I had some respect for your reporting previously, but giving this women the time of day to legitimize her claims, come on...
I would have thought there would be some kind of insight in this article but it's pointless as it merely rehashes same the story already written several times.
At least make it a commentary on Dobbs' failing credibility.
Piscesprincess
Betcha Lou Dobbs is loving this; he is getting his viewship numbers back up.
I stopped listening to him over 18 mos ago. He went round the bend.
Just ignore him and this Orly broad with no degree. Let's see Her Certificates and creds.
crashtestDummy
why doesn't obama bring a slander and harrasment civil suit
against taitz
it would pull the plug on her noise and send a message
there is a line
if crossed
off to the court house...
fk4711
Colbert kept his interview of this crazy woman pretty straight, letting her demonstrate her looniness on her own without mocking her (she is beyond mocking, she is the parody of herself). I hope the media exposure will make people understand the crazies in the "B movement and hopefully, taking Lou Dobbs down on their way to hell.
HuskyNan
Here is the link to the video with Colbert & Taitz.
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/229691/july-28-20 09/womb-raiders---orly-taitz
The tin foil hat contingent is single-hendedly keeping Alcoa in business.
whipmawhopma
lol
grumble-bum
"...Acting like Nazi Brownshirts & calling names."
The lack of careful, individual self-reflection in this country is now endemic. Yes, it hurts to realize one's own foolishness & hypocrisy, but the alternative is far worse.
Thank you.
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