10 More Reasons Dems are Toast

to mcmchugh99...

Come on, of course there has been more volatility over the last 40 years than there was during the previous 25. What else would you expect from a burgeoning world economy? That being said, if we look for a single denominator, a common thread if you will, that was and is always the real cause of every country's financial tumult.... then we must attribute the down turn on the cost of all social programs and entitlements. Spin that any way you want........ but the fact remains, excessive government spending always breaks the bank.

99

The Tea Party are the people who will make sure the Progressive Right and Left don't get elected, they may not influence all the elections but they will be a huge factor in weeding the Rep and Dems who spent this country into Socialism and ignored the Constitution...

McHugh: Much of what you say is true, but you must factor into your comments the fact that business, for whatever reason, feels more comfortable with the GOP in power. Note, if you will, that while the country is stewing under staggering unemployment, many large corporations are showing record profits. That would suggest to me that a) they could hire if in fact they wanted to and b) they could invest more on R & D. However, they are not, at least in the present.

Looking over Mark McKinnon's top ten list, I see nothing that compares to the one blinding flash of concern that the Dems should be very worried about: namely, my buddy Pete! You see, Pete was one of these bright IT people who were devotedly working for the Obama election team. His job was to reach the young voter and the independent voter. He used his considerable computer skills to make constant contact with these groups. He is so disillusioned, that he will never vote for Obama again. (Albeit, because he feels that Obama has not gone FAR ENOUGH with his reforms).

To paraphrase Nixon when he heard Cronkite's newscast..."When Obama loses my buddy Pete, he has lost America!"

On Rangel: he should have quit years ago. No argument there, surely!

Reverend:
Jesus fed the poor and was a socialist extremist. And you hate social programs. How does a Christian (I must assume by your handle) manage that disconnect.
You blame social programs for burdening the world's economies but not the $2 Trillion a year spent on hatred and turning children into hamburger.
How does a disciple of the 'prince of peace' come to love war so much that it doesn't occur to him to question the costs? Not just in dollars, but in the emotional poison that will take generations to wash away once war becomes recognized as the enemy of mankind.

For are arguments both for and against regulation. I prefer minimal, necessary safeguards. When government decides to micromanage, it always guesses wrong and produces unintended negative consequences.

The biggest cause of the crises at the end of the Bush presidency were policies enacted by Bill Clinton appointees. In the name of progressive liberal "compassion" for "poor people not owning a home." they used the strong arm of government power and forced banks: THEY COERCED BANKS to do what most banks would never do on their own, i.e; issues loans to people who were totally incapable of making the payments.

(Banks left alone have more sense).

Everybody seems to have forgotten that owning your own house is not a societal "right." Gee, mom & dad might have to work hard 10 years for a $20,000 cash down payment. But then progressives see that as "cruel."

These were powerful federal government officials. Republican John McCain and a handful of others saw this coming and had warned in congress that the "numbers" did not add up for Fannie May and Freddie Mac.

So as I see it, progressives had a BIG HAND in the Fannie May / Freddie Mac debacle.

One thing I did like about McCain is that he had seen and had warned and tried to change things TWO years earlier.

You are right but let's get to the very basis of who is the basic President who is responsible for all our problems. It is all George Washington's fault. It does not go back any farther than that,.

mcmchugh

This is why the Democrats are toast. They are constantly blaming others. Americans don't want whiners representing them.

to mcmchugh99.....

Yeah true the contractions that occurred in 1974-1975, 1980-1982 and 1992-1993 provide comparisons for the current recession. However, aside from cost of the social programs....they were for the most part brought on by factors unique to europe. OK, we can all agree, a spike in oil prices prompted by several geopolitical events outside of Europe's control caused the first two contractions. Who can forget what that was like. The US, just like europe knew all to well how the OPEC oil embargo in the 1970s caused the 1974-1975 contraction. In fact, it was long thought of as the most notorious recession because it halted over 20 years of post-World War II economic growth, especially in europe. Then of course, there was the rising oil prices again in 1979. These were induced by the Islamic Revolution in Iran and (more so than in the US) were responsible for the next recession in europe from 1980 to 1982.

Across europe, both the 1970s and 1980s recessions were exemplified by high inflation due to the increase in commodity prices, the worst being in Spain and Italy. True unemployment was severe in England, but pretty tame in France, Germany and Italy....... at least compared to the current numbers of today.

The next recession, that of the 1990s, was caused by a combination of factors including a spike in oil prices instigated by the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990. The Brits had already been in a recession since 1990 due to their exposure to the U.S. markets and financial sector, which as you should remember, went through a number of difficult periods with the savings-and-loan crisis and the 1987 Black Monday stock market crash. Now setting that aside for a moment, if you look at the Rhineland you'll have to admit it was their post-reunification hangover which further exacerbated the recession in Germany. The country had realized a 5 percent GDP growth in both 1990 and 1991 which ended up slowing down to 2.2 percent in 1992 and a "minus" 0.8 percent in 1993.

Now here's where factors start to get more than a lil different, because the key variables of the previous European recessions were exogenous factors..... however, this world wide 21st century recession is unique, because it reveals a set of severe structural economic problems in Europe. Yes you're correct, one such adversity is the lack of unified banking regulation, but just like in the States, the looming housing crisis has proved to be the biggest bank buster.

One of the hardest things for the europeans to wrap their arms around this time, is the realization there's no one around offering to help pull them out of this recession...... So unlike all the times in the past, europe is learning what it's like to depend solely upon themselves.... It's about time, don't ya think ?

99

.In case you haven't noticed the countries the IMF had to bail out lately were all Socialist Countries, and more to fall coming...
As for Capitalism, it's what's makes this country great, it takes a lot of hard work and persistence. Hand outs are ok for a while but, it a hand up that works, help those get trained, educated, to support themselves, not to ever be dependent on the government for their existence. What Obama is doing is the exact opposite; the Progressive Hostility toward Business is what's killing jobs, people's lives and ability to get a job.. This is from Cloward and Piven, collapse the markets...and take them all over to gain the Power and Control...Obama and the Radical Progressives in Congress are doing that on a daily basis...

Now they want to ignore or bypass the Congress on immigration

mcmchugh99 -

On what evidence do you go by when you say, "Their free market/laissez faire policies got us into this since they pretty much left capitalism unregulated, but of course they are trying to weasel out of that responsibility."

According to Democrats Bill Clinton and Michael Bloomberg, the economic collapse was caused by the housing bubble, and that was largely caused by DEMOCRATS pushing against the very regulations they espouse to support. It was Democrats, not Republicans pushing AGAINST the Fannie and Freddie regulator and Republicans screaming to tighten up lending.

But, don't take my word for it, listen to Bill and Michael (and others, too):

Bloomberg: "It all started back when there was a lot of pressure on banks to make loans to everyone" (video below)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXhND01U734

Here is Bill Clinton in a brief clip saying how Democrats were responsible too.

Clinton: "I think the responsibility the Democrats have may rest more in resisting efforts by Republicans in the Congress, and myself when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfGWxqsKFmY

Here are some clips from Congressional hearings with Congressional Dems striking down tighter regulations and Republicans calling for tighter regulations of lending. Democrats are essentially attacking the regulator who is trying to raise the very red flag that he saw. NOTE: One of the democrats called the call for tighter regulations akin to "a political lynching" against the director of Fannie and Freddie. He got away with that inflammatory and heated rhetoric, apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related

Here is Democrat Barney Frank:

Barney Frank before the collapse:

"...you're not going to see the collapse that you see when people talk about a bubble...Those of us on our committee in particular will continue to push for home ownership."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5qKYfqALE&feature=player_embedded

Barney Frank AFTER the collapse:

"I was very much in disagreement with this push into homeownership..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC9k3oB83z4&feature=player_embedded

The huge debt and deficit - Democrats rightfully, in my opinion, say are a product of two expensive wars and an expensive prescription drug plan. What they fail to tell you while they're saying that is that over half of the Congressional Democrats voted "yea" for Iraq, AND, they wanted an even more expensive prescription drug plan. So - BOTH parties are to blame. Yet, Democrats want us all to believe that it is only Republicans to blame.

More than half of Congressional Democrats voted yes to the Iraq war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_resolution

The authorization to use military force with terrorists received only ONE naye in both chambers, all the rest were YEA, so Democrats own that high expense, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Aga inst_Terrorists


The Democrats blame Republicans for the expensive Prescription Drug bill - Yet they wanted one even MORE expensive bill:

http://www.edition.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/05/11/democrats.radio/


People often say that the party in power is to blame, or gets to take credit, when good or bad things happen. People must have selective memories then because the Democrats took power of both chambers of Congress in January of 2007. That means they owned the purse strings, the taxing abilities, the regulation abilities, etc. when the financial collapse happened. Yet, they get away with blaming Republicans for the collapse in 2008. I dislike and distrust Republicans, but I am growing to REALLY, REALLY dislike and distrust Democrats. Bush was a raging liberal spender, so I am sure he was secretly very happy when Dems won both houses of Congress.

Also, let's look at the policies of the past, compared to Obama's policies.

"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the economy added more jobs than it lost during 50 out of 52 months between September 2003 and December 2007. The economy lost jobs over two months during that stretch -- between June 2007 and July 2007 (20,000 jobs) and between July 2007 and August 2007 (71,000).

That said, Obama's figures are worse than any of his postwar predecessors'. The economy has shed between 2.4 million and 3.1 million jobs during the 18 months he's been in office, depending on whether you start counting with the January 2009 figures or the February 2009 figures.

So if Gillespie's point is that Bush's tax cuts led to record revenues, they did -- for 2007 at least -- but that was a record aided by a the largest, non-recession economy in American history."

(Taken from politifact link below)
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jul/13/ed-gilles pie/gillespie-touts-bush-record-taxes-job-creation/

Record revenues, the largest non-recession economy in American history, low unemployment. That is what President Obama considers failed policies? After the Democrats took over Congress in 2007 and President Obama in 2008, the country has seen higher unemployment, larger deficits, larger national debt. That is what President Obama considers success?

I haven't fact checked these stats below, but I know they are at least very close:

When President Obama was elected, the unemployment level was roughly 6.9%. Under his leadership, it has increased to 9.5%. The deficit was 3.2% the last year President Bush was in office. President Obama has brought it to 10%. And the debt was 2.3 trillion dollars lower in 2008 than it is now.

I am NO Bush fan, but as far I am concerned Obama and his possey are simply Bush on steroids. Liars, conspirators, crooked, power hungry, hypocrites!!!

to bosatsu....

Don't be so naive in your thinking..... because being responsible when doling out funds to social programs does not mean starvation.

Why is it you liberals always assume the worst of others... when it's you who have the willy-nilly approach to spending ad infinitum?

The Left can't keep bouncing checks and expect never to be taken to task for your spendthrift ways.

I can't wait for everyone to remember why they hate republicans in the first place. Oh well, 2012 the Dems will probably have 72 senate seats. Mark my words.

Between the Dems going to jail, getting fired by their own party and getting voted out of office...my it's a huge new World.

Perhaps someone can enlighten me: what is the progressive obsession with corporations? Blame Bush I get; he stole the election, lied, etc. etc. Don't any of you find it a bit incongruous to rail against business, especially big business on a network and on a machine neither of which would be available if not for the corporations with the capital to afford the enormous outlays to build the factories to build the machines? Were they all turned down for good jobs and are still angry? And isn't it business that gives us the amazing standard of living we enjoy? And what's with the obsession with "the rich"? Did they all cheat somebody to get there, or did they just work hard in a capitalist system that gives everybody an opportunity? I read these comments on occassion and just don't get the obsessions, so perhaps one of you can explain it to me.

Holly the Stalker is talking her usual drivel but no one is replying. That would par for the course. Who has time for the rattling empty barrels that are either kicked to the kerb or used for waste disposal? It is an umpleasant but a necessary thing sometimes... She just moans about others moaning. Not a word on policy or anything relevant. Just the repetitive rattle of the ad hominem attacks on me, who she is currently stalking, to keep her from addressing her real problems. Occasionally funny, but ultimately rather pitiful. Much healthier to get into the fray of real life and argue and have fun. Ah,well......

Republicans do not think of central ideas, they let the market work. We will never know what would have happened if GM/Chrysler failed. The people that got hosed on that one were the bond holders and the unions made out, fact. What is a generation in your world 100 yrs? Doesn't look like that right now it is looking like 4 yrs is a generation. Why is the common guy having such a hard time finding employment? All of the stimulus is going to policemen, firemen, teachers, politicians to help get elected, it surely is not going to creating jobs. Don't bring up the Socialist term saved or created. You will never know the true unemployment # with this admin there would be chaos ( yet another crisis) in the streets. As for the IMF there should not be one to bail out. Bail outs prolong the cancer and it never goes into remission. Look what the IMF did with our money to Haitigave it to them and forgave the debt. When is the last time you looked in your wallet had no money and kept on spending? I don't think the bank bought your debt and one day China is gonna come a callin, bend over then and hold on. Bottom line there will be another one of these times and we are right on the crest of a second dip in the recession and the Republicans have not been in charge. Can't blame it on Bush and I laugh at the first one that does, Obama. Lets face it they have all been poor stewards of our money and that is going to stop and you can take that to Tiny Tim Geithner (who never held a real job). Your last desperate statement is not why that individual got into power he just nudged himself in to that positon. Frankly, I am sick and tired of the Zero Liability Voter, they are driving our ecconomy down too. Prove they aren't.

Bush blamin' foo, does your own life mirror the lack of responsibility your thoughts replied have?

The Repubs are being transformed from within. We know the captains of the GOP are crap for the most part and we will purge them. BUT saying "NO" is not enough - its enforcing NO!!

The lack of regulation did not get us here, corrupt politicians trying to make housing "fair" pushed us into this mess. It weasn't the free market but the abridgement of business as usual into total fraud -- initiaited by policiticans who wanted everyone to own a house.

Regulation is not the answer. It is merely the gospel of pregressive socialists who want to CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL. Academic pinheads who want regulation to rule over the servile.

bosatsu:

I'll say what the revereand hasn't: scripture tells us that God wants us to be like Him, to personally give of our resources and time. Taking money by force from one group and giving to others via "social programs" or "redistribution" is not in keeping with God's character or purposes. Its a task meant to transform the individual heart. He wants us to want to help the widows, the orphans, the sick, not by stealing from others. The intent is to shape as children of God, as He graces us with gifts. God doesn't need us to cure the ills of the world per se, he could cure it now. This is a training ground, and he wants us to wants us to give. How does empowering the IRS tro take more or diverting tax money to social programs earmark any individual in Gods eyes for salvation? It can't, as group affiliation, skin color or any other group factor cannot earmark us. It is how we personally live our lives that we will be judged for.

You're absolutely correct. Republicans are pathetic. They are going to sweep to power only because they're not progressive Democrats.

mcm.....let it go. Enough. Continually spinning the facts isn't going to change them. You just can't blame it all on the GOP and have any credibility. And that goes both ways.

to mcmchugh99...

Unbending reparations following WW1 laid the groundwork for the National Socialist Party. I would like to emphasize Socialist for you. It hasn't been successful to date. The free market economy of the United States of America has raised the standard of living across the world like no other economy in history. Corrupt governments trying to concentrate power in an elite few, living in luxury while impoverishing the rest of the population and ruling by fear and intimidation eventually fail, Does any of this sound familiar to you? Open your eyes, it is happening all around you. 50% of workers who pay taxes cannot support the remaining 50% who get paid not to work for very long. Add illegal immigration to the mix and it's no wonder that state economies are going broke; all thanks to progressive policies.

it does not give a pass to steal
and steal big.
let's separate grain from grass

Of course, but let's also not diminish the guy was a hero in that forgotten war. He should leave, but if its a wash, give him the benefit of nearly dying for us.

99

I said IMF is bailing Socialist Countries out lately,( Greece, Italy,Spain, England) and by the way, those in Asia and Latin America dont have the same type of economy as the US.

Colourfully put! Still you are right on the money. Follow the money trail and see how Bush created this almost complete financial bankruptcy of this country in history in large part because he was doling out tax relief to his base and prosecuting an illegal war. And then consider his other painful legacy of moral bankruptcy . And the Republicans In Nothing But Name would have us forget the cause and only consider the effect and Obama's fairly competent move to avert recession. Only to blame him for Bush's disastrous tenure and its effects. They are truly miserable and I hope they get Palin as their next leader, with her bifurcated tongue and allergy to anything resembling a fact or analysis. She can rule these morons from her Facebook page and they can all be friends while the country implodes. An appalling travesty could be imminent for them.

Gosh,being told the truth sure makes the liberals mad.
Kinda like rabid dogs.
But then ,really,what might one expect from the intellectually challenged ?

The Republican party is NOT responsible alone for where our country is today. It was Republicans who were calling for tightening up housing lending, Dems resisted strongly. The housing bubble led to the economic crisis.

Over half of the Dems voted for the Iraq war too.

The Dems voted, nearly unanimously for the war on terror happening in Afhganistan.

The Dems wanted an even more expensive prescription drug bill.

The Dems took over both chambers of Congress in 2007, just before the spending skyrocketed. Bush being a raging liberal spender, I am sure was secretly loving it when the Dems took over Congress in 2007.

The facts are, Democrats are just as responsible, if not more, than the Republicans.

Nah, you keep blaming Bush like blacks blame the white man. Shameful, you should step outside of yourself, and listen. The left has always operated by creating a victim-oppressor narrative, they never take responsbility or simply create from hard work what is needed.

Chimpdom? ..you mean as in Monkey? You know, you're only confirming that some people will believe anything...as most on the Left do, especially in regards to this topic. How do you even know that O-blame-me is intelligent? Did you get a secret peek at his college transcripts? I bet not...and I'm also willing to wager that they are being hidden for the simple reason that they may not be very impressive either. As I recall, didn't Bush score higher than Bradley (a rhodes scholar) on his SATs? And I really don't think you want to start comparing O-blame-me's pre-presidential background to that of Bush's. Probably not, huh? Ok then, just keep on listening to what the MSM is feeding you and keep confirming that most on the Left will beLIEve anything...

You mean like the one we have now?

I think you're missing the point of this article. The eight years of Chimpdom are over. A majority of Americans made the decision to end them 2 years ago. The reason "It's Bush's fault" doesn't work as an argument is because everybody already agrees with that - they've already responded to that argument by giving the Democrats a majority. It's not unreasonable for the public to set aside the past and now make the Democrats defend what they've done with their opportunity.

Well, since the "chimp" had a higher grade point average at Yale then John Kerry, what does that make your last presidential candidate? Also, I'm sure Bush knows there are only 50 states and that neither was FDR in power in 1929, nor was there television. I think he also knows that there is only 1 Vietnam, unlike your revered congresswoman from TX, Barbara Lee. So I'd be careful about all the remarks about Bush's IQ. His is higher than most of the Dem. leadership, at least from what comes out of their mouths. Just sayin...

Kind of like liberal intelligentsia...

lordmi/Picachu

You can call commonsense conservative an oxymoron, moron, but its better than the alternative, Socialism and a Bankrupt America

I think Palin will kick the Dems ass in 2012!

Well, I think a 5th grader can definitely spell better than you and construct a sentence better.

susangalea

Palin really gets under your skin. I doubt that you're sad or find it funny. Enraged is more like it. How dare this woman you have nothing but distain for succeed in spite of all the efforts of the left to destroy her.

Holly, Holly, Holly.....

You need to at least try to say something cogent. Hahaha. Your ad hominem attacks are those of the desperate pariah. Cool it chickadee.

Erm, what is 'distain' , Holly? Have you set up Sarah's fan club yet? That way you would have someone who would respond to you , and have a nice wee chat. You are becoming creepier by the day. There are plenty of Repubs here , why don' t they notice you? Why is that do you think?

Perhaps what amuses me most about Palin is her ability to self destruct, HollyK64. She really did cook her goose. She recused herself from her one wee bit of responsibility and in so doing showed herself unfit for office. You won't find a decent Repub to argue with that. Just you. Now, any ideas you may have about my analysis of this sorry state of affair and any attribution as to my motives made by you are for the birds. You must know that. Everyone knows that about you by now. You must try to restrain yourself and cut out the ad hominem attacks. They are so demeaning. They make you appear even more insignificant. Is that possible? Well, anyway....

susangalea:

Did you really accuse HollyK64 of ad hominem attacks? Do you know what ad hominem means? Pot and kettle susan. If you can't take it don't dish it out.

bigvic: YOU got that right, he is the POTUS, not the CEO, but had he ever been a CEO or COO, maybe he would have had the experience to do something, as WE all see now, no experience, no plan, no nothing, only campaigning.

mikesus, as usual, your rants are not supported by facts but then again that is hardly a surprise.

@bigvic, Actually Obama had no usable experience when elected so mkiescs was factual. Barack Hussein Obama is the most unqualified person in any room he enters, unless it is empty. Hillary Clinton was right for the first and only time in her life.

to bigvic......

Not for nothing dude, but what more than the truth do you need before you'll realize, Obama is better suited to host a late night talk show.......?????

bivic

And Obama inexperience shows!
If you have read Midescs comments, there are plenty of fact that supports what he and all conservatives say...

Obama has taken over, bailed out, pissed away money, on pork, payback to unions and cronies, back room deals and Obama Care...Two WARS, has Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Maoist all in the white house directing traffic.. Yea if that's not enough, to not get you re elected then this is not America its Cuba...

Just the president? You mean just the guy who has access to all of the country's resources and can use them in order to push forward agendas which will affect the daily life of every person in the US, not to mention a whole bunch of people living in other countries? Just that guy?

Has it occurred to you that business is what drives the economy and provides the jobs and then the tax dollars that you liberals love to spend on the various insane programs that you initiate?

99

There is NOTHING Obama can say or do to stop whats about to happen to him and Congress... He is the punching bag, because he deserves to be brought down, because of his lies and Corrupt Radical Progressive Agenda.

99

."I want to correct myself, Obama is a Radical Revolutionary! Who's main goal is to create "The Kingdom on Social justice and freedom-they think they are building. And compared to THIS heaven even America is hell."

mcupchuck,

What's a "bunching bag?" Are you trying to coin a new term? You liberals are always one step behind Palin.

Also, the 1980's showed the largest economic expansion since WWII. The 1990's produced a budget surplus for the first time in decades. The 2000's were able to absorb the economic hit of 9/11 and the resulting wars. It was all brought down by the burst of the housing bubble that was caused by, wait for it, the Democrats' social justice policies forcing banks to loan money to their constituents who could not afford them.

Yes businesses got bailouts. But only those who were heavy Dem contributors. And before you mention the auto companies, remember who really got the sweetheart end of that deal...the unions.

bosatsu

It was the Democrats, who were all for offering no equity loans to people with no money to pay their monthly mortgages, that caused the housing collapse.

bosatsu
You of all people talking ideology over common sense.
You would'nt vote for God if he came to town and run on the Rep ticket.

I am laughing at Holly's complete mischaracterisation of the 'housing collapse' , as she so quaintly tries to describe the economic situation. She seems to be totally unaware that the Republicans were in government at the time. Oh dear, mustn't mock. But come on , this is such transparent guff. What is she on?

susan
And President Bush warned congress 17 times about Fannie and Freddie, but your buddies Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters blocked any bill to stop them. Smoke that in your BONG.

susan.....check your facts before attacking Holly.

Dems had a fillibuster proof majority in both houses for most of the last 18 months, and yet you bunch still try the same old, same old line of, "Republicans aren't helping!" What kind of help do you all need, besides the mental kind? Here's a thought. Maybe, just maybe, if your saviour and his minions had been focused on the economy, instead of crap-and-tax, socialized health care, bowing and scraping before dictators and thugs, blaming Bush, trashing Republicans (who had no real power, anyway) and generally being nuisances, the economy MIGHT not be as bad as it is and unemployment would be %6 intead of %10. But just keep blaming those nasty Republicans. I'm sure San Fran and New York love you for it.

They certainly assure that the left does not become complacent. They are the best thing the Democrats have going for them. The more they speak, the more their words will bite them in the ass when the real battle begins in Sept-Oct.
Thank you for Sara and the rest... Good job Republicans... Finally... It's the only good thing you've done for America since Eisenhower.

mcmoron,

How can the Republicans have done anything to stop Øbama? The Democrats had a majority in the House and a super majority in the Senate. As Jon Stewart points out, that's a bigger majority than Bush had "when he did whatever the hell he wanted." The reality is that Øbama could not even keep his own party together, much less the rest of the country.

mcm....when the Dems refuse to work with the GOP what do you expect? The Dems would do the same thing.....you'll see, come Nov. And if this is his best, we are all in big trouble!

I think you meant to say that he ran as a Clinton centrist. But you are correct that he has governed from the extreme left, which is why all the nutters come out anytime a criticism is levelled against "The One".

ZTHEZS

There has to be more than just 6.. how about Barny,Weiner,Wasserman,Boxer,these wack jobe need to go too...

to ZTHEZS and timeisnow.....

Please do Florida and the rest of the Nation a favor and make room on that list for Alcee Hastings..... You can through him under the bus, on top of the bus or even make that rat-bastard run along side of the bus..... just make sure he's on his way outta town..... that's all we ask.

granholm is done in Michigan, I'm sure she'll show up with the Obama adminstration. Anyone who is as good as she is at killing jobs will be in Washington, asap.

Rev
Alcee Hastings got off scott free with the people. Because back then the race card meant something. Today it is getting tougher because people with balls are saying bullshit to the racist shit. When we are talking about crooks there is no color or no party. Crooks are their own race and party.

Rev

Hey Conservatives get your hands on a booklet by David Horowitz

"Barack Obama's Rules for Revolution"

Elizabeth@horowitzfreedomcenter.org

Cost is $3.00

Read it and everything Obama is doing falls right into place...

JasperJoe

I cant believe they didnt run her right out of Town. How can she stand by and watch Obama destroy an entire State...

Rev
Thanks for the book info

Has Obama visited all 57 states yet?

At least Palin won't have that pesky old numbers problem in Africa: she can just pop over to Morocco and say she's visited the country of Africa. Job done.

dalelama
He did 52 he went to Mexico and Canada.

You have no evidence for your widely off the mark claims. If you bother to look at the polling things are no where near what you suggest. Stop reaching for easy points and try for something more linked to the reality and you will find all the legislative and transformative changes Obama has brought in 18 short months. Oh, and whilst dealing with Bush's horrific fiscal profligacy which nearly ran the economy into the ground. He was as usual shell- shocked ,despite always dodging the front lines, and couldn't buckle to Paulson's demands for money quick enough. He has spent his life being bought out of trouble and his life experience is what he gave to us. If you are so shallow that you can honestly not see where the responsibility lies for the mess and who is doing a competent job of trying to sort it out then bring on Palin . Now, there lies a cautionary tale. And you will deserve all you get. You betcha.

susangalea

Pay attention Radical Revolutionary... Your Extremists have been in control of congress since 2006... It's all their faults and we don't give a shit what you think

susan....you are just proving again and again the point of this story. Blaming Bush is lame and ineffective at this point. That's why the Dems are going to lose in Nov.

99 and susan

How is this for buzz words?

"Radical Revolutionaries, who are looking to build their own kingdom of heaven on earth"? You know that Kingdom of Social Justice and Freedom?

Anyone want to take this question? Come on Radicals one of you Shit head knows what I am talking about...LOL

Now, you must know that's not true. How can you comfort yourself with this lying calumny in your hour of need? Repub Talking Points number 4: it won't do it. You can't whitewash the Bush causation of this recession and you can't deny Obama's Keynesian approach has saved jobs; but not enough, yet admittedly, and until those bloody banksters (Bush's base) start lending you can stop blaming the Democrats for the failed policies of the Republican corporatist elitists . It is arrant nonsense. You know it ; or you at least, you should.

@susangalea, Sorry to interrupt your novel but Barney Butthole and Chrissy Dodge refused to reform Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac from 2001 to 2010. The Dems blocked all Bush budgets in 2007 and 2008. The banksters actually gave more money to Sillary and President Potato Head than to all repub candidates combined. Upchuck Schumer has been the number one receiver of bankster funds in Congress for eight years running. As far as the Democratic slush fund masquerading as the 'stimulus" package it has resulted in a higher unemployment rate than what the Obama administration predicted it would be if we did nothing. No wonder the Democrats are in trouble. How do you explain to the voting public that you just flushed $1.2T (including interest) down the liberal special interest sewer?

to susangalea....

Not for nothing susie-Q....but you're the one not reading the tea leaves correctly.. I mean come on, look at what just happened this week in Detroit. Mr Obama was in the state playing to union officials with a promise of higher wages and better benefits so they'll support his reelection efforts in 2012.... and all this goodness at the expense of the taxpayer.

And another thing lady, all this hoopla from you folks on the left over Obama's temporary fix-alls and how they've saved jobs and stimulated the economy.......Please tell me how something temporary does anything more than temporary?

People are terrified because the amount of Federal, State and local spending in this country is beyond comprehension. Until Americans know where Obama stands on taxes and regulation, banks will not lend, business will not create jobs and people will not be out buying goods.

dalelama

I can't believe how naive you are . You think that because the banksters gave more lobby money to the Dems that makes them what? They are Bush's base and they know which palms to smooth. Do you know what lobbying is? Do you understand that they are underregulated and responsible in large part for this economic collapse. I could go on. When you refer to Barney Frank, a homosexual man as " Butthole" I realise you are just the sort of redneck that makes Sarah Palin happy. I suggest you go and dodge dinosaurs together. That is if she's not having a check up to confirm that her preacher managed to exorcise the devil from her soul whilst talking in tongues. Your ignorance about the stimulus is total, dude. We are still spending little Bush's tarp. You know, the Republican stimulus money. You are a homophobic dumb cluck who needs to get his sorry ass back to school.

Actually, the depression began with Reaganomics. You would never run your business the way he proposed running the American economy. If you did, your business would fail, just as America has failed.
America just had more collateral than a single person or a small business, so it took longer before we ran out of credit.
But we DID run out of credit. The ponzi scheme of the Republicans DID come to an end. And that would not have happened if corporate Republicanism was correct. Now if we can get back to some honest reassessment of ourselves and move on, we could actually have a brighter future. This will NOT happen if we continue with Republicans anywhere near the legislative process. Sorry, but you fucked us... And I am pissed. Not just because you ruined us, but because you want to do it some more.
I. Don't. Think. So.
I think fortune still smiles on America.. Why else the perfect storm of Palin and all the other Republican wackos to remind us of why we should not relax.

Hey Rev

Isnt that what got us into this mess in the first place? Promising more money and benifits, when thats what brought the Companies down in the first place. If those stupid asses believe his lies again, they deserve what they get...LOL

@bosatsu

Wow, I was unaware that Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain were practicing Reaganomics. All this time, I thought they were employing the same Keynesian policies that you would like to see implemented here.

Oh wait, I forgot. Every time leftist economics fails somewhere (and that is everywhere it is tried), you leftists all circle the wagons and say that it just wasn't done right. If only they had been **more** leftist, they would be living in an economic utopia. So by all means, Mr. Øbama, bring on the left-wing economics, Surely, we Americans will be the ones to finally get it right.

Fannie and Freddie didn't cause the recession; the subprime mortgage meltdown and ensuing credit crunch were the drivers of the global economic collapse. The federal Community Reinvestment Act -- enacted in 1977 -- applies only to depository institutions, such as banks and savings and loan associations. In testimony before the House Financial Services Committee, Michigan law professor Michael Barr estimated that only 20 percent of subprime mortgages were issued by depository institutions under the CRA.
I would go into the digressions of the banks, who securitized the subprime loans, and the credit rating agencies that declared them to be among the safest investments, but I'm sure I lost you already.
All that ACORN and "people who couldn't afford them" stuff is just bigot code for blaming all of this on minorities.

JungleCogs and dalelama

Thanks for mentioning the real facts of what happened. Also, dale, the comment about interrupting susagalea's novel was hysterical. So true. The women is delusional.

Boy, Fester, you bunch just can't do it can you? You cannot reply to a Conservative without throwing out "bigot" or "racist". Unfortunately for your ilk though, those little barbs have no sting, anymore. Overused, underproved. But, by all means, keep it up. You're just making our side stronger and more determined than ever.

Reverend:
Yea we know. The Republicans and their Big Oil buddies made sure that America was knocked to its knees so they could leverage their way into power. They then proceeded to steal everything that was not nailed down and a generation later we are almost 3rd world status. Thanks for all your help there. They couldn't have done it without you.
You're quite an American... Carter asks us to reassess our relationship to Oil and conservative America says 'Don't you talk to us that way! Weer Amurkins, We piss on the future.' Well, here we are... The future... Glad you pissed on it now? Be sure to blame a Democrat cuz you piss on honesty and reality as well.

to bosatsu...

How dare you, ain't nobody to blame there but Jimmy Carter. He was a whimp of a leader unlike the world has seen before or since.... Well I take that back, cause the effete trendies in the Obama administration aren't proving to be any different than Jimmy and his crew were.

All you liberals can do is chew cud or spend money...... but when it comes to recalling the facts, you conveniently leave out most of the truth.... If you recall, in 1974 Nixon was the 1st to call for a reduction in our dependence on oil imports when as president he established "Project Independence", with the goal of achieving energy independence by 1980.... Let's see, the House and Senate were both held by liberal majorities back then and remained so for the next 20 years up until 1994... Now what was that again you said about stealing everything that wasn't nailed down and causing Carter to fall on his face? Hell his own damn party did that to him....Ted Kennedy, causing some of the worst domestic damage to the Carter presidency of all.

mcm....you need to read more than liberal and mainstream media.

to dalelama.....

I use to sit and yell at the TV because President Bush refused to push back against all the attacks and distortions his administration was besieged with during his 8 years in office. I often feel had he engaged his opponents more, and taken them to task....... Mr Bush would be remembered in a much better light by all today.

Little Bush didn't blame Clinton and that might have had something to do with the massive surplus Clinton left him. How the times have changed. Bush will go down as the worst president of the United States of America in history.

@sangha774, you mean the massive surplus Newt left him.

@RevPettibone, I agree Bush made the mistake of believing you could work with Marxists across the aisle just like the White Russians and Chang Kai Shek. No, the only way to stop a cockroach is to kill it.

to susangalea.....

That myth about a Clinton surplus you liberals love to promulgate was debunked a long time ago. Clinton was more than just a philanderer, he also was good at juggling the books his last year in office. He took money from the "intergovernmental holdings account" (that's where Social Security and Medicare moneys are kept) and flipped those funds to create his surplus .... Mr Clinton did that, safe in the knowledge it would be years in to the next administration before the truth would come out..... Ya know, bullshit like that makes you understand why Al Gore, during the 2000 campaign, was so adamant about the creation of a Social Security Lock Box.

Presidents Bushes congress will go down as the worst in history, can you say Reid and Pelosi? Approval rating 11% what a freaking disgrace.

Actually, Bush blamed Clinton for all that money lying around. Balanced budgets were for Democrat pussies. And the world truly began to resent America precisely because of Bush's my-way-or-the-highway, for-us-or-against-us, unilateral-preemptive-strike, twitchy-finger-gunslinger mentality. Is that disrespectful enough?

Dalelama... Kill a cockroach... You engaging in fascist terminology now? You setting the stage for some 'final solution"? You advocating violence and civil war? Every word you speak exposes your heart and mind.

eurydice

We know all about their Social Justice Radical Agenda, they cant blame Bush for that, although I am sure they will try...LOL

to mcmchugh99...


Not only are we aware how our guys up on The Hill vote.......... but we've been keeping abreast of all the shitty-deals your side has been promoting for years too........ So if a portion of the electorate has been consistently out of touch, then it's your side that's most at fault...... especially when you can claim as part of your base a woman as uninformed as this one in the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI


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You make a very sound point. I wonder sometimes how things would have been if we hadn't decided to employ a Keynesian monetary policy. It looks like it did avert a truly massive recession , but we have a ways to go. The legislative progress and achievements in 18 short months are monumental. Healthcare is a historic achievement that cannot be denied.

Never thought insanity would take over. Read "Tea Party." You have no clue what a radical revolutionary agenda would be. Wake up!

I think you will find the reasonable Republicans are miserable at the divisive and idiotic teabaggers. You probably don't know any so you can nurse your delusions and sup. Cheers.

susan

I hope you keep thinking that...we love the Tea Party they are the best thing that we got going in the country...I know plenty of them and we just cant wait until November... See you at the voting booth Radical...