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What's on Those Destroyed CIA Tapes

BS Top - Posner CIA 174 Of the 92 al Qaeda interrogation tapes the agency vaporized, one may have contained the “Rosetta Stone” of 9/11, Gerald Posner reports. Now, it’s up to President Obama to demand justice.

The Justice Department announced yesterday that the CIA had destroyed 92 videotapes from the agency’s interrogations of high-ranking captured Al Qaeda suspects. In the case of one, Abu Zubaydah, that should not be surprising, because as one American intelligence source has told me, what Zubaydah says on those tapes is the “Rosetta Stone” of what really happened behind the 9/11 terror attacks.

In a short monologue that one investigator told me was the “Rosetta Stone” of 9/11, Zubaydah laid out details of how he and the al Qaeda hierarchy had been supported at high levels inside the Saudi and Pakistan governments.

In my 2003 book, Why America Slept: The Failure to Prevent 9/11, I set forth how Zubaydah initially refused to help his American captors. I also disclosed how US intelligence established a "fake flag" operation, in which the wounded Zubaydah was transferred to Afghanistan under the ruse that he had actually been turned over to the Saudis. The Saudis had him on a wanted list, and the Americans believed that Zubaydah, fearful of torture and death at the hands of the Saudis, would start talking when confronted by US agents playing the role of Saudi intelligence officers.

But when confronted by his "Saudi" interrogators, Zubaydah showed no fear. Instead, according to the two US intelligence sources that provided me the details, he seemed relieved. The man who had been reluctant to even confirm his identity to his US captors suddenly talked animatedly. He was happy to see them, he said, because he feared the Americans would kill him. He then asked his interrogators to call a senior member of the Saudi royal family. And Zubaydah provided a private home number and a cellphone number from memory. "He will tell you what to do," Zubaydah assured them

That man was Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdul-Aziz, one of King Fahd's nephews, and the chairman of the largest Saudi publishing empire. Later, American investigators would determine that Prince Ahmed had been in the US on 9/11.

American interrogators used painkillers to induce Zubaydah to talk—they gave him the meds when he cooperated, and withdrew them when he was quiet. They also utilized a thiopental sodium drip (a so-called truth serum). Several hours after he first fingered Prince Ahmed, his captors challenged the information, and said that since he had disparaged the Saudi royal family, he would be executed. It was at that point that some of the secrets of 9/11 came pouring out. In a short monologue that one investigator told me was the "Rosetta Stone" of 9/11, Zubaydah laid out details of how he and the al Qaeda hierarchy had been supported at high levels inside the Saudi and Pakistan governments.

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March 3, 2009 | 10:12am
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drauzy

Copies of those destroyed tapes would be worth lotsa money - even more than a gov pension.

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11:10 am, Mar 3, 2009

exoevolution

lie upon lie upon lie....

will we ever find the truth in this forest of LIES!

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11:42 am, Mar 3, 2009

pdxwill

Drauzy, You got the first comment, and you blew it on that. Nice work.

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12:07 pm, Mar 3, 2009

Nuld001

The President is indeed our last chance for finding out the truth. This whole episode has become an ever larger distortion of what exactly U.S. policy is. So what is it and what are we? Somebody has a lot of 'splain to do.

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2:05 pm, Mar 3, 2009

bigwurzz

Did he lay out how the Saudi Family and Pakistan government were supported by the Bush administration as well.
Hopefully that will come out as well some day.

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2:37 pm, Mar 3, 2009

bigwurzz

The only way people like president Obama will give us the truth and hold those accountable is if people like Mr. Posner don't let up. Also, more well established (sorry Mr. Posner) journalists pick up the story and don't give up. Probably a tall order considering the state of journalism.
(See Chris Brown article(s))

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2:42 pm, Mar 3, 2009

ChanRobt

The fault lies with Peolosi and others in the Congress who are threatening a witch hunt against the previous administration.

If there is any fault for losing the "Rosetta Stone" it lies with the Democrats. Who, as always, compromise our security.

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3:50 pm, Mar 3, 2009

lifeactor-y

It's time for enhanced interrogation techniques to be used on the perpetrators of this crime. How very predictable.

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3:54 pm, Mar 3, 2009

lifeactor-y

What's the matter Chan - you have something to hide?

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3:55 pm, Mar 3, 2009

DoubleDutch

I can think of a whole bunch of reasons to destroy a tape like the one described without even the benefit of inside information. Imagine the size of a war if we were to attack Saudi Arabia and Pakistan for their alleged roles and the subsequent destablizing impact on the region if not the entire world. Conversely, imagine using that tape as leverage to consolidate allegiances with the states where these "rogue" actors reside in an official capacity and the unprecendented cooperation you could force out of them. You could demand that they take direct action against the colluders, resulting even in their elimination.

That second half sure sounds like history and that first half sure sounds scary!

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4:02 pm, Mar 3, 2009

lifeactor-y

Who was supporting the Pakistan government at the time? Probably the same crime family that is beholden to the house of Saud. You can hide the evidence but you can't hide the truth.

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4:23 pm, Mar 3, 2009

bigwurzz

By crime family you must surely mean the Bush's. And, Chan you are joking, right? I know neo-cons aren't the sharpest tools in the shed but that is the most idiotic statement I have heard today. And, I read this blog all the time.

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5:38 pm, Mar 3, 2009

sundancer

This is enthralling stuff. And rather believable. I've long known W was deeply beholden to the Saudis as they bailed him out of his disasterous oil company adventure, Harkin Oil (the joke in west Texas was W couldn't find a quart of oil in a Midland 7/11).
Two questions; 1) Who is this "intelligence official" and who does he work for?
2) Where is Zubaydah now?

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6:24 pm, Mar 3, 2009

drauzy

pdx, I could not care less about being first, or, obviously, your pointless assessment.

Now, for those who believe that "the truth will out", let's just hope, even faintly, a civil servant (or contractor!) dubbed a copy... the possibility alone can yield some good.

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6:40 pm, Mar 3, 2009

troutcor

Those deaths are awfully coincidental. No doubt the Bushies fears about revealing Saudi links to 911 contributed to the decision to Nixon the tapes, but of course there's another thing they didn't want heard:
SCREAMS!

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11:24 pm, Mar 3, 2009
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