“Well, it happened,” Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren said Thursday night when Rachel Maddow asked her how she’s feeling about the unexpected election results. “There was a time to be really despondent about it, but the way I see it now is that we pick ourselves up and we fight back.”
Warren went on to say that there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that the election of a man who repeatedly referred to her as “Pocahontas” on Twitter is “painful” for a lot of people.
“This really and truly hurts,” she said. “And we have to remember how Donald Trump started this whole campaign. He started it with an attack on Mexican Americans and then he took the escalator down. And his entire campaign was fueled on racism and bigotry, attacks on women, attacks on African Americans, attacks on Latinos, attacks on Muslims, attacks on people who were disabled. It was one attack after another. And that means we have to think about what this means for America and where we go forward right now.”
As she said in her statement following Tuesday night’s news, Warren indicated that as a Democratic senator she would look for places where she could “compromise” with Trump, but had her doubts. “There are things we’re going to end up losing, because we don’t have the White House, we don’t have the Senate, we don’t have the House of Representatives,” she said. “But on those core issues about treating every single human being in this country with dignity, on that we stand up and we fight back. We do not back down. We do not compromise, not today, not tomorrow, not ever. For me, that’s the starting place on how to understand what’s happened to us.”
Later, Warren added, “You can either lie down, you can whimper, you can pull up in a ball, you can decide to move to Canada, or you can stand your ground and fight back.” She urged people who are angry about the election to get involved politically and volunteer for organizations like Planned Parenthood to help those who might be hurt by a Trump administration.
As for the protests that have sprung up across the country in opposition to Trump, Warren said, “People are upset and they’re right to be upset. This is our country, and people have a right to have their voices heard.” But, she added, “we also have an obligation to listen.” Not necessarily to Trump, but to those who decided to vote for him despite his “bigotry.”
After a break, Warren told Maddow that she has spoken to Hillary Clinton since Tuesday night and took a long pause before saying their conversation was “good.” She added, “Look, it’s hard. It’s really hard. She worked hard. She has had 25 years of public service, longer. She’s been out there. She has fought for women. She has fought for children. She has fought for health insurance. She has fought for human rights. That has been the defining feature of her life, and this is hard. This is hard. I respect what she has done and tried to do for this country and for people around the world.”
Finally, just as interviewers tried to get Warren to announce her presidential campaign ahead of 2016, Maddow closed her interview by asking, “Who are you going to pick as your running mate in 2020?”
“No, no, no, that is a long way off,” Warren said, not exactly ruling out a run. “We don’t have energy to waste on that. What we have is we’ve got to line up our fights, where it is that we’re willing to say, ‘We’re with you and we’ll help you and we’ll put wind in your sails, President-Elect Trump,’ and where it is that we say ‘On bigotry, on prejudice, on turning loose Wall Street, on saddling our kids with too much debt on student loans, on canceling health insurance,’ where it is we say, ‘No, we will fight you every step of the way.’”