White House counselor Kellyanne Conway appeared unable to name a single high-ranking African-American working in the West Wing on Sunday. Asked on ABC’s This Week who the most high-level black White House staffer is now that Omarosa Manigault Newman was fired last year, Conway appeared taken aback by the question before saying, “African American?” She went on to accuse ABC host Jonathan Karl of failing to “cover the fact” that President Trump works with Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Ben Carson. When pressed again to focus on the White House staff in particular and not Trump’s cabinet, Conway identified “Ja’ron,” whose last name and title she did not provide. Former White House aide Marc Short later clarified to ABC that Conway appeared to be referring to Ja’Ron Smith, who has an office in the East Wing. “What does that say to have not a single senior adviser in the West Wing who is African American?” Karl asked. “I didn’t say that there wasn’t,” she said, without providing any names.