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Secretary of State Marco Rubio attempted to do some cleanup after President Donald Trump’s meltdown in his Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, but it wasn’t entirely convincing.
The New Abnormal’s Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy shared a laugh over Rubio’s body language during the meeting, noticing—as many others did online—the dejected look on his face as Trump and Vice President JD Vance dressed down Zelensky as part of a shocking tantrum during his White House visit.
“Rubio is going to have to get better at his body language because [it was clear] he wanted to be anywhere else,” Levy said. “He was mortified. He was embarrassed. And then he goes on TV right afterwards and tries to play cleanup and tries to suck up to the boss. It’s just very obvious what he’s doing. And it’s pathetic and it’s completely on brand for Marco Rubio.”
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Plus! Transgender journalist Erin Reed, who covers trans legislation and issues in her newsletter Erin in the Morning, talks about the Trump administration’s attacks on trans rights, from federal erasure to military purges and immigration bans.
Then, video producer Brooke Shuman and freelance reporter Eric Vasquez dive into a video they co-produced for More Perfect Union detailing how Elon Musk’s Texas playbook explains the controversial moves of the Department of Government Efficiency.
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